Tornado's Top/Bottom 10 Superhero Films

[Nick1988]

..sigh..

[morpheus1987]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

If need English terms it means the movies comic wise not in the Top or Bottom lists should be used in a another Top Ten. Which would be the Middle or Medium list.

Why didn't you just do a top 25 list? A list of mediocre movies simply does not make sense. What would the criteria be? It's not like you could use movies that fall just outside the top 10, because those movies wouldn't be mediocre. You are much better off just expanding your top 10 list to 25.

[saveus1011]

I think we should do a Top 10 of RedVader's posts.

[MasterChief117]

Agreed. An entire thread dedicated to his posts. My all time favorite is probably when he talked about Japan deserving the Tsunami because they whale hunt.

[morpheus1987]

Morpheus's Top 10 Superhero Films

6. X2: X-Men United


There is not really much to add to this that others haven't stated. This is, in my opinion, the best X-Men movie. It took all the good things that the original did, and put it into a grander scale. The movie does have some pacing issues, and might be overly long by about 10-15 minutes. However, it has one of the best scripts yet for a comic based film, and the action is intense. The characters all get to show off their powers in awesome ways (specifically Wolverine and Nightcrawler), and the villains are amped up a notch from the first film. This is really an awesome movie that captured the feel of the comics, and expanded it to this medium.


Favorite Moment:The introduction to Nightcrawler. Talk about badass. Seeing him make short work of the secret service was awesome to see. The raid on the mansion comes in as a close second.



5. Batman Begins


If you haven't figured it out by now, I love Batman. I found the character fascinating, and I don't think any other superhero has been adapted as well for the big screen. This list might seem Batman intensive by the end, but I feel that all of these films deserve to be in the top 10. With Batman Begins, Christopher Nolan took comic book films to an entirely new level (which he eventually exceeded with The Dark Knight). The plot and acting reached levels never seen before in a comic based film. Nolan showed the world that comic book films can be accepted as good cinema, not just some fan boy's wet dream.

This movie also has to be appreciated from the standpoint that it revived Batman on the big screen. Batman and Robin obviously left us all with a sour taste in our mouths. This movie rectified the wrongs that had been done only 8 years prior, and brought Batman back to prominence.

Favorite Moment:Batman swooping over the citizens of the Narrows as he is trying to save them. Epic scene, plus the score was epic.

[MasterChief117]

I love, love Batman Begins. So many memorable moments.

[Tornado]

5. Superman (1978)



According to the filmmakers, there was a reluctance on the part of Hollywood to make a movie about the most famous of all American superheros. They feared that it would either be too campy, too sentimental or audiences would be disappointed when it was not the Superman they imagined. And actually, these kinds of problems have plagued many of the superhero movies that have been made in the wake of Superman's unparalleled and unsurpassed success. Somewhere, somehow, the filmmakers found that blurry area where the fantasy of the comic book and the realism of film could meet and somehow produce the story of Superman on the large screen. I think the main reason the film works as well as it does is because of the fine acting and a fine script that takes themselves seriously enough that the audience runs with it and yet maintains its fantastical flair. The entire idea behind Superman is pure American fantasy on the grandest scale, and the filmmakers understood how to capture this idea tremendously well on film.

Of all the elements that made it work, the script is on the forefront. Many subsequent attempts at screen writing a superhero from the pages of a comic book to the luster of the screen have had mixed results, and some of them had been in dire need of rewrites. But Superman's script was honed before it was shown. Every line reinforces the premise, the feel and the rhetoric behind the story. This is fantasy but it also has to be believable. Superman's initial encounter with Lois Lane, his response to her inquiring his identity as simply "A friend," sets up Superman's character that permeates the entire film. He is not doing what he does to feed his own ego and/or gain publicity. He is helping for help's sake, and that is the very essence of Superman. If he had flexed his muscles and said "I am Superman," the entire experience would have lapsed into farce of the Adam West Batman variety. Superman's combination of heroism and humility is coupled with a slightly different take on Superman's alter-ego, Clark Kent. Unlike the campy 1950's series in which the difference between Kent and Superman was like trying distinguish Dracula and Bella Logosi, Reeve offers a Clark Kent that is a fish out of water. Kent is a stumbling and bumbling Midwesterner out of rural Nebraska who knows about as much about urban living as your average hay stack, which becomes a refreshing contrast between his two identities.

But the script alone can't bring a movie success. You need actors who know how to deliver the lines in just the right timing and tone to convey the essence of the story and the realism of the characters. Enter Christopher Reeve. Say all you want about his qualities as an actor outside of Superman or his personal/political beliefs, but the man was born to play Superman. Gene Hackman's performance as Lex Luthor constantly cutting down Miss Teschmacher and Otis reminds me of Bing Crosby, or maybe a late Cary Grant film.

I'm going to close this on my all-time favorite Superman quote (spoken by Batman): "It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then… he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him."

[DarthVader 2004]

20 Transformers.
19 The Incredible Hulk.
18 Iron Man 2.
17 Thor.
16 Hellboy.
15 Hellboy 2.
14 Batman Returns.
13 Blade 2.
12 Blade.
11 Superman 2.
10 X-Men.
9 V For Vendetta.
8 Batman.
7 X-Men First Class.
6 Spider-Man 2.

RedVaders Top 20 Superhero List.


5 Iron Man.




Some would say Iron Man should not be above any Spider-Man movie but truth is I just liked the movie. Iron Man was fun and i liked seeing the slow build up to Iron Man learning how to become Iron Man. Allot of comic book movies has the hero mastering his ability in 10 to 15 minutes. I liked the slower pace. I think the reason Iron Man was so good was because it was one of those things where The Actor made the movie and RDJ made Stark a great character.
Stark and Iron Man is my favorite Marvel Character now after Wolverine.

[Fanible]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

If need English terms it means...

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[Nick1988]

Top 10 Superhero Movies

10-Kick Ass


What a surprise this move was, never heard of the comics, and didn't really hear or see anything about this movie till it came out. I saw this movie hearing it was really good, and man for once i wasn't let down by other peoples opinion, movie was ****ing hilarious. I usually can't stand child actors, but man Aaron Johnson and Chloe Moritz, as well as the 3 friends of kick ass were great in this movie. The humor in this movie was spot on, now a days i find it hard to find a good comedy that actually makes you laugh out loud, look no further then Kick Ass. Aaron Johnson was funny and and overall did a really good job, but man Chloe Moritz stole the show, she was a riot, i mean everything that was coming out of her mouth was golden, it's nothing new seeing a little kid swear like a sailor, but the way Mortiz was able to pull it off really made it hysterical and convincing. This in general was a very well rounded cast, even the big fat black guy who was security for the drug dealer for when Kick Ass goes there to stop the drug dealer from bothering a girl he likes, even he cracked me up. Mark Strong, someone you don't envision in a movie like this was pretty humorous, guy gradually becomes more and more cooky, to the point where he is shooting people and snorting coke , funny ****. There needs to be more movies like this, that don't take themselves to serious and offer a entertaining aspect that i find hard to find in most of todays hollywood movies.

Favorite Moment: I remember first seeing this, and the scene Hit Girl comes in to save Kick Ass from the drug dealer, and she says something so funny and raunchy , i literally burst out into laughter at what i had just heard, i can't remember it and can't find the clip on youtube, so if anyone remembers please feel free to tell me.


9-Hulk


People are gonna give me **** for this one, but i just watched it for the first time since i saw it in theaters, and i really liked this movie and feel it is incredibly underrated and misunderstood . I saw this when it first came out in theaters, way back when i was 14 , and there was a considerable amount of hype for this movie, it was Hulk for the first time on the big screen and it was supposed to follow up Spider-man as another potential big time movie franchise. I walked out of thinking it sucked big time, it was boring, and i hated the comic book style shots with ever scene, it just to me was an epic failure. I enjoyed this movie now though being older, to me i really like the approach Ang Lee took with, i mean was it smart for a Hulk movie and for a supposed summer blockbuster? Probably not, but hey we have seen it with Nolan, you can make a very serious and not action pack comic book movie and it be successful. I just think this movie ended up failing because at times it's like Ang Lee was trying to make this movie but it's the producers wanted action so they were shoe horned into the film. I liked the father angle they played, to me that is ten times more interesting then Banner becomes Hulk on random dumb luck, yes an accident happens, but it seems pre determined because of his Fathers history. I do see why people didn't like it, it seemed to tangle up the movies plot and was a little to much for the movie, at times it was like there was 3 or 4 bad guys and all with a different storyline. I liked the cast a lot, and i'll say this, this cast was WAY better then The Incredible Hulks cast. I liked Erica Bana's Banner, Bana seemed a bit more like Banner to me then Norton, Connelly, who besides being smoking hot, i just really dug her performance more then Liv Tylers, Connelly did a great job of portraying a conflicted individual torn between her love for Bruce and her estranged father, and speaking of him, Sam Elliot did a really good job as General Ross, he was real mean s.o.b at times and i loved the intensity but also a man who seems bit clueless on how to deal with his estranged daughter, he made for a really good villain and was far and a way better then Hurt's Ross, who i didn't care for much. Nick Nolte did a great job as well, he played a good disturbed father, i know some people thought he was a a bit absurd in this, but i enjoyed his performance. Watching this i was also surprised that this movie actually does have a good amount of action scenes, The whole third act of the movie was non stop action, and it was pretty good stuff imo. I get why people didn't like this, this movie wasn't for everyone and for a comic book character that was expected to do big numbers, it probably wasn't the right idea to go in the direction they did, Ang Lee is an amazing director and applaud him for trying a unique take on the character.

Favorite Moment- I loved the scene where Betty is holding Banner in the streets of San Francisco after his rampage, and she locks eyes with Ross, it was a really touching moment, a look of " Enough with the destruction and violence, i love this man and i am gonna stick with him" , Elliots look and Connellys emotional look was great and i thought was a very touching scene

[Tornado]

Oh... no...

[DarthVader 2004]

I suppose if i comment that the Hulk was boring. It would be another crazy RedVader moment. But come on Hulk number 9 is the most weird pick i have seen in the Top 10 best superhero list.

[Nick1988]

Anyone else says that and i might be offended, but coming from a guy who can barely even put together a sentence and has the IQ no bigger then my shoe size, Yeah i can live with you calling it weird i think.

[Nick1988]

Oh yeah and a disclaimer, Since it's only 10 movies and i don't want to have it riddled with Batman and X-men movies.I consider Batman, Batman Returns,Batman Begins and The Dark Knight all some of my favorite movies ever in general, and X-men,X2 and First Class are all really good as well. I will only pick 2 from the Batman movies(One Burton,One Nolan) and 1 from the X-men movies. I want my list to be varied .

[DarthVader 2004]

Hulk had great possibilities but it dragged along in the beginning and Hulk hoping around in the desert part was for me a bit cartoony.
I loved Elliot and Bana in that movie but its suffered from being kinda slow developing.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by Nick1988

Oh yeah and a disclaimer, Since it's only 10 movies and i don't want to have it riddled with Batman and X-men movies.I consider Batman, Batman Returns,Batman Begins and The Dark Knight all some of my favorite movies ever in general, and X-men,X2 and First Class are all really good as well. I will only pick 2 from the Batman movies(One Burton,One Nolan) and 1 from the X-men movies. I want my list to be varied .

I hear that. I briefly considered combining Batman Begins and The Dark Knight into one entry for that very reason, and that played a factor in cutting Burton's Batman from the list to avoid having three Batman films on it. That's not the only reason I cut it, but it was one of them.

[bbf2]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Hulk had great possibilities but it dragged along in the beginning and Hulk hoping around in the desert part was for me a bit cartoony.
I loved Elliot and Bana in that movie but its suffered from being kinda slow developing.

You know what else was super cartoony? When his dad shot himself with gamma-radiated starfish DNA to become an absorbing monster and then he started eating electricity in order to turn into a electricity monster and then he used lightning to juggle the Hulk through the sky and then they landed in a ditch and he turned into a rock monster and then something exploded and he turned into a cloud monster and then a jet came by and a single rocket killed him.

[JBond]

Pfft, bbf2 is making stuff up again.

[bbf2]

Originally Posted by JBond

Pfft, bbf2 is making stuff up again.

When I make stuff up I actually try to make it sound plausible.

[JBond]

Heh, good point.

BTW, Kick-Ass is overrated.

[DarthVader 2004]

A-Men to That. It was an ok movie but i am not sure why its loved so much.

[Neverending]

#4 - SPIDER-MAN (2002)

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We are a couple of week's shy from this film's 10th anniversary. It's also my 10th anniversary as an active member of message boards. Before Spidey, the most I ever spent online having discussions with people was through AOL Chat Rooms. Remember those? Anyway, let's take a trip down memory lane. The excitement for this movie was enormous. I still remember showing up on opening day and all the screenings were sold out for the entire day. People bought their tickets weeks in advance. The auditorium was packed with people wearing Spider-Man t-shirts, myself included. Everybody had a blast throughout the film. They all cheered, laughed, and whistled at Kirsten Dunst's boobs. And at the end, everyone gave a standing ovation. It was marvelous. To this day, it's one of my top 10 moviegoing experiences of all-tme. Why was their so much happiness? Because it was the first Spider-Man movie ever made. This was cause for celebration. Especially since we were rewarded with a great movie. Is it flawed? Yes. But no film is perfect. Sony may have rebooted the franchise because fanboys and Internet trolls like to ruin everything, but to me, it'll be a tough challenge to surpass or even equal this movie. And there is no way it'll ever duplicate the emotion or hype it gave us.

#3 - DARKMAN (1990)

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Sam Raimi did a great job with Spider-Man, but his finest hour was with his own creation. Darkman is fascinating because he's a superhero by default. In reality, he's a monster. He was a scientist who had his lab trashed by gangsters. So, in his quest to get revenge, he becomes the hero the city needs. How funny is that? The beauty of this film is how well Sam Raimi balances horror, comedy, and action. Blade and Hellboy followed in this movie's footsteps in that regard, but neither did as good of a job. Some would argue that it's bull s--t and this film is too campy. But to each his own, I guess.

[DarthVader 2004]

RedVader's Top Superhero Movie List.


4 X-Men 2 X-Men United.



This movie to me was simply still one of the best Comic Book movies made. It is too bad Cyclopse was little more then a Cameo player in this movie but other then that you can't ask for more from a comic book inspired movie. Jackman and McKellan were so good in this movie for me and I just could not pick Iron Man over this but not quite have it over my last 3 films.
4th place may seem high to some but not to me.
I know people say First Class is great and is equal to this. But I don't think so. Both are good movies. But this is just so much better a film to me.

[Moviefan]

my top favorites
super man 2
batman begings
batman returns
x-men 2 united
spider-man 1
dare devil
ghostrider i enjoyed i knowwhy some people don't like it
thor
captian aemrica the first agvner
the indaible hulk with ed nortion

i liked
super man retruns
steel its my favrotie movie
super man 3
i like theh ulk i liked ed norton hulk much beter you didn't have to get into the comics
i also like ninja turtles 3 its more famiy friendly movie.. i didn't like the way turtles looked nothing beats the first ninja turtles movies

ifyou going to add movies heres some;
dragon ball evloution
street fighter
street figther ledge of chun li
super girl that was horrible moive
x-men 3 more watch it more ilike it
son of the mask that was a horible moive

[Tornado]

Steel is your favorite movie? That's a shame.