Iron Man 3

[DarthVader 2004]

What part of end of movie does not compute. The character does not have to be seen to be done for the movie. Its just a point where shield is in the movie in the Marvel Universe but has no play in the Iron Man 3 story.

[Wolverine X]

They never did this kind of thing where they just introduced something completely new with no relevance to the story in the ending of the film (unless it played a significant role in the next MCU film like with Mjolnir or the Tesseract). So I dont see them doing that now.

[DarthVader 2004]

I give up my head hurts. I'll say this once more. Iron Man will always be connected to these Avengers because its the ones that started the whole thing. Shield can have Stark do stuff at the end as a set up for Avengers 2 and Cap and Thor 2 would like continue that.

[Wolverine X]

I never said Iron Man wont be connected to Shield. I bet Fury is gonna show up in the movie at some point. There will be Shield presence there in some way. And there will be a post credits scene that leads into Thor 2, I am sure of it. I just dont think there will be any Avengers characters showing up or new Avengers characters be mentioned or introduced. We´ll see in a year.

[DarthVader 2004]

Rebecca Hall may be cast as a scientist. I wonder if she will have any other importance other then for the concept of this movie. I also wonder if the new suit in Iron Man 3 maybe will be more useful to Avengers 2.

[morpheus1987]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Rebecca Hall may be cast as a scientist. I wonder if she will have any other importance other then for the concept of this movie. I also wonder if the new suit in Iron Man 3 maybe will be more useful to Avengers 2.

Hulkbuster armor perhaps?

[Neverending]

edit: nevermind.

[DarthVader 2004]

Originally Posted by morpheus1987

Hulkbuster armor perhaps?

I think they may try to create Armor if not in Iron Man 3 but by Avengers 2 where he can breath in space.

[Wolverine X]

No the new armor will be the Extremis armor because IM3 will be adapting the Extremis storyline. Rebecca Hall will most likely play Maya Hansen, a brilliant scientist who used to be a former lover of Tonys and has created the Extremis nanotechnology. She plays a major role in the Extremis story.

Some comic research can be very helpful

[DarthVader 2004]

Originally Posted by Wolverine X

No the new armor will be the Extremis armor because IM3 will be adapting the Extremis storyline. Rebecca Hall will most likely play Maya Hansen, a brilliant scientist who used to be a former lover of Tonys and has created the Extremis nanotechnology. She plays a major role in the Extremis story.

Some comic research can be very helpful

Are you saying they can't use this armor in Avengers 2.Isn't it possible Stark could use this armor to maybe build Vision for Avengers 2. I say its likely that The Tech used in Iron Man 3 could show up in the Next Avengers some way.

[Wolverine X]

No I was referring to the Hulkbuster armor idea. I am pretty sure that Tonys new armor in IM3 will be the Extremis one. What happened to Tony in that story completely changed the status quo of Iron Man in the comics so expect that to happen in the film as well. It will greatly change Iron Man. And that changed Iron Man will then be in Avengers 2 (most likely in his Extremis armor). of course thats no fact but everything really points that way right now.

Vision is an interesting character. Some have speculated that Coulson will be "revived" as the Vision. Though if they bring in Vision I expect it to be in Captain America 2 not IM3.

[Wolverine X]

For those who do not know the EXTREMIS storyline, here is a plot summary (source: wikipedia, so dont blame me for the length of the text )

EXTREMIS PLOT SUMMARY

Three men furtively enter a disused slaughterhouse in Bastrop, Texas, where two of them inject a willing third, whom they call "Mallen". This injection contains an experimental drug which makes him fall to the floor in immense pain. A bizarre physical change overtakes him; his horrified compatriots flee the room and lock him in.

In his Coney Island workshop/garage, Tony Stark is woken from fitful sleep to undertake his morning ritual of struggling to look himself in the mirror, before heading off for a scheduled interview with journalist John Pillinger (based closely, by Ellis' admission, on leftist filmmaker John Pilger). Pillinger discovers, in on- and off-camera conversation with Stark, that Stark's guilt is not chiefly for his history as a weapons designer (in flashback we see a younger Stark injured by a land mine of his own invention, the start of his Ellis-reworked origin story) but even more for the world-changing improvements he had hoped to fund with his weapons design, but which have yet to materialize. "Have you changed anything?" he asks Pillinger, and it's clear both men are anguished by the question.

The injected man's body, still lying in the Bastrop warehouse, is now covered completely in a bizarre layer of scar tissue.

Days later at Futurepharm Corporation offices in Austin, Texas, Dr. Aldrich Killian commits suicide at his computer, his note informing coworker Maya Hansen that he has stolen and "loosed" the company's immeasurably dangerous Extremis serum for some compelling but undisclosed purpose. Hansen phones Tony Stark, who is an old flame, and who speeds off to his private airport after taking the call on helmet-speaker flying high above New York State in his Iron Man suit.

Back in the Texas slaughterhouse, the two men return to find their companion—nearly normal again in appearance, although he has nearly punched holes in the locked metal door—is conscious and alive.

Stark arrives in Texas by private plane, ending a teleconference where he rejects calls from his company board to step down as CEO, saying they'll only restart weapons manufacture if he does. Arriving at Futurepharm he learns from Hansen only that the stolen project involves "robotic microsurgery" and they don't know who it's been given to, as they can't hack Killian's computer. Stark satellite-emails Killian's entire hard drive to be hacked by one of his contacts, and, to distract Maya, jets her to San Diego to talk with their old friend and teacher Sal Kennedy.

Kennedy speaks about technological development in general, dubbing it the "creation of better hunters", and the two of them in particular, dubbing Hansen "the Edward Teller of biology" and Stark "the Dean Kamen of technology". They banter at length on the disappointments of great minds: Kamen, despite his many good works, is known primarily as the inventor of the Segway. Clive Sinclair revolutionized Britain's computer industry, but is remembered for the C5 - "A Segway with pedals". He laments that the epitaph for many such individuals is "Almost Useful", all three of them included.

Meanwhile, the three men from the slaughterhouse drive up in their van outside FBI headquarters in Houston, Texas, and the injection survivor gets out. While Kennedy harangues Tony and Maya on their military work and thus-far-failed promise, the survivor walks empty-handed into the FBI station, face distorted in a rictus of hate, and easily slaughters everyone he sees, armed or unarmed, many with his fists, many incinerated by flames in his breath.

Maya catches the story on the news, realizing that the terrorist—and his fifty casualties—must be her fault, and the result of her project, which she calls "Extremis." Tony calls for the plane to be ready to take them to Austin, and for his armor to be waiting there. Back in the van, the killer rejoins his confederates and tells them he's only started.

In flight back to Texas, Maya tells Stark that Extremis is a military nanotechnology serum, an attempt to recreate the Super-Soldier Serum, which interfaces with the brain's 'repair center' and directs the body to rebuild itself from scratch as if it were all wound tissue to be replaced. The design for the new body is programmable prior to injection and can involve superhuman abilities, giving it an (untested) military application. Maya had taken the military contract to fund and advance her anti-cancer research. Stark receives a call from his hacker friend and reveals that Killian has given Extremis to a local domestic militia.

He debriefs area police authorities with a transmission to Avengers Mansion before landing and, alone once more, donning his armor. Mallen is heading back to Bastrop in the van, and flashes back briefly to the death of his entire family before his eyes in an ATF raid on their house when he was young. Iron Man, tracking the van from above, disables the van and battles Mallen, but is roundly defeated by him, with civilian casualties. Mallen flees, leaving Stark trapped beneath a car with armor at zero power and flames approaching, but Stark saves himself and the car's passengers by raising his armor to 1% power on thermal energy from the flames.

Tony phones Maya and has her people airlift him to Futurepharm, where, in a private medical bay, she removes his armor, revealing his identity. His internal injuries from the fight are critical, and Tony has realized that the only way for him to survive them—and to upgrade his response time enough to defeat Mallen—is to undergo the Extremis process himself. He remarks that it's the second time he had to test a weapon in order to survive a deadly injury. Maya fears Stark won't survive the process, but Stark insists; she injects him with the serum and he convulses, falling into a coma.

While in his regenerative coma, Stark relives his origin story as Iron Man, starting with his first deadly injury—wounded by his own landmine in pre-Gulf-war Afghanistan, he wakes an Al Qaeda prisoner expected to manufacture their weapons. Fellow prisoner and experimental medical researcher Ho Yinsen informs him that the shrapnel is working into his heart and will soon kill him, so they develop a prototype Iron Man suit which magnetically keeps the shrapnel out of Stark's heart while arming him to free himself and eliminate his captors.

24 hours into his coma, the scablike cocoon which has enveloped him bursts and Stark awakes healed and newly fit. An internal control sheath for his Iron Man armor is now contained within his body to emerge on mental command. The sheath lets him "low jack" himself not only into his armor, but phone and computer and even global satellite networks. He unveils new suitcase-sized Iron Man Armor, which self-assembles around his body when thought-commanded. He sets off after Mallen.

Tapping into the SI satellite cluster, Iron Man finds Mallen heading towards Washington, DC. The two fight, but now it is Mallen who is outmatched and Stark pleads with Mallen to surrender, working hard not to kill Mallen while defending himself. Stark claims Mallen's story terrifies him because it so much like Stark's own, down to the fifty Al Quaeda he killed trying to free himself and his fellow prisoner in the first Iron Man armor. The difference is that Stark is trying to rise above killing and make a difference, whereas Mallen can't see the future. Mallen eventually gets the upper hand, and, declaring that he will kill the future anyway, begins to rip apart the metal of Stark's chest plate—either this action, or Stark in desperation, releases a bolt of energy which runs Mallen through—after which, as a mercy killing, Stark decapitates Mallen with repulsors.

Torn with anger and guilt at having once more had to kill, he returns to Futurepharm, at last to act on his realization that Aldrich Killian could not have opened the company vault alone, and that Maya must have helped steal and release Extremis in order to provide her project with a human test and prove its viability in combat—in this case, with Iron Man—and thereby save her military funding for the cancer research. Maya confesses to Stark and the troops he's brought with him to arrest her, but tells him that he's no better than her. He agrees, but says at least he's trying to be better than her, and because of that he'll be able to look himself in the mirror the next morning.


Rebecca Hall will most likely play Maya hansen and Guy Pearce will be Aldrich Kilian.

[DarthVader 2004]

Originally Posted by Wolverine X

No I was referring to the Hulkbuster armor idea. I am pretty sure that Tonys new armor in IM3 will be the Extremis one. What happened to Tony in that story completely changed the status quo of Iron Man in the comics so expect that to happen in the film as well. It will greatly change Iron Man. And that changed Iron Man will then be in Avengers 2 (most likely in his Extremis armor). of course thats no fact but everything really points that way right now.

Vision is an interesting character. Some have speculated that Coulson will be "revived" as the Vision. Though if they bring in Vision I expect it to be in Captain America 2 not IM3.

Speaking of Captain America. Will we ever See Redskull again. Because i was so expecting him to be the Villain at the end of Avengers and not Thanos.
I hope he returns in Cap 2 because the Red Skull has this ability to come back. Also i don't think anyone believes he died but was transported.

[morpheus1987]

Edit: Nevermind

[Wolverine X]

Hm I wasnt expecting the Skull at the end of Avengers to be honest (plus Thanos is way better). But its true Schmidt cant be dead. The cube transported him somewhere but I doubt its Asgard. Probably one of the other 6 realms we havent seen yet. It would be cool if he would be back in Cap 2, but then again maybe its more interesting to not have the same villain as in Cap 1 and someone new (Baron Zemo maybe?) I wonder if Peggy is still alive (she would be around 95 I guess). If so , then she definitely must have seen Cap on the news. Would have been interesting to see her reaction^^

I also wonder if Hydra will rise again. In the comics they are powerful modern day terror organization and a major enemy of SHIELD. Maybe someone else will rule them after Skull was gone and now in the present they come out of hiding. There are so many cool characters you could introduce with Hydra in the present.

[morpheus1987]

If we are going to talk about Cap 2, I think Winter Soldier is likely to make an appearance at some point.

[Wolverine X]

yup Winter Soldier is a must for Cap sequels. I mean the actor who played Bucky is contracted for several films so I think he´ll be back in Cap 2 which can only mean Winter Soldier. maybe thats also the perfect way to bring back Black Widow. I seem to recall that Winter Soldier and Natasha were connected in the comics. And Cap vs his old friend would be very cool.

[Ramplate]

yeah that was interesting in the comic books

[Wolverine X]

speaking of the comics I really can highly recommend the FURYS BIG WEEK series (8 parts) which connects all the movies before Avengers more closely from SHIELDS point of view and shows lots of stuff that happened during the movies which we never got to see. Its very, very cool. Certain scenes from the films are also shown but sometimes from a different perspective.

Another series thats pretty cool is the new ongoing series AVENGERS ASSEMBLE. It has an own continuity (not the one from the main comics) and has the exact same team roster as in the film. Today the 3rd issue of that came out, cant wait to read it.

Also the free comic book day issue of THE AVENGERS has a pretty cool story involving the villain Ultron and featuring a fantastic roster: Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Hawkeye and Spider-Woman.

Great stuff

[Ramplate]

I actually stopped collecting in the early 90's

Wanna buy some comic books?

[Wolverine X]

You did? Too bad since a lot of awesome comic books were released since then. You missed a LOT of good stuff.

And no my wallet cant take any more pressure lol. I already get every the month the new US issues of:

The Avengers
Avengers Assemble
Avengers vs X-Men (12 issue limited series)
AVX: VS (6 issue tie in series to AVX)
Wolverine
Wolverine and the X-Men
Uncanny X-Force
Action Comics
Superman
Detective Comics
Batman
Wonder Woman
Justice League
Smallville Season 11
Buffy Season 9
Angel & Faith

So I think I am good for the moment but thanks

[Wyldstaar]

Originally Posted by Wolverine X

I wonder if Peggy is still alive (she would be around 95 I guess). If so , then she definitely must have seen Cap on the news. Would have been interesting to see her reaction^^

Doubtful, but there's always Sharon Carter, agent of SHIELD and Peggy's niece.

[Wolverine X]

yeah I know but Sharon is too obvious. She will certainly show up sooner or later. But I would love for Cap and Peggy to meet again in the present, that would be a beautiful moment for them I think. And it would be nice for Steve if at least one person that he loved is still alive. She could then maybe die in his arms or something. Giving her real closure with Cap and peace. I´d love that

[Ramplate]

I used to collect most of those except for about the last three titles you listed
I'm only missing 3 issues of Spider-man from issue 1 to about 400 and something (#14 I had but it wasn't a great copy so I sold it - the other issues I'm missing are single digit issues)

I've read some newer comics online at the Marvel site - World War Hulk was great

[Wolverine X]

most of those? Not really possible since many (Uncanny X-Force, Avengers Assemble, Wolverine and the X-Men, AVX etc.) didnt even exist until recently

and well the DC titles are different now because DC has relaunched every major title last year in a company wide reboot. While some heroes like Batman still had their previous backstory others like Superman, WW and JL were completely rebooted from scratch especially the new Jl series is awesome.

I was also collecting Amazing Spider-Man for about 15 years but that One more day arc where they erased Peters marriage to MJ from history and make everyone forget that he is Spidey angered me so much that I stopped collecting Spider-Man since then.