Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) - Page 3

SnoBorderZero · 07-02-2010, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Neverending

Finding Neverland. Secret Window. The Libertine. Sweeney Todd. Public Enemies. The Rum Diary. The Tourist.

Yeah, you're right. Johnny Depp has spent the last 7 years as a children's entertainer.

I'll give you Finding Neverland, I had actually forgotten about that one I did really enjoy him and the film as well.

Secret Window is not what I would point to as a good film, though Depp was good in it and kept it going until its lame ending. Libertine was blasted in reviews, Sweeney Todd was alright I guess but I don't understand how that proves a point of him breaking any convention, and I personally found Public Enemies on a whole to be brilliantly mediocre but I guess Depp was alright in it. Even the movies you name with the exception of Finding Neverland are all very forgettable films. None of them have any lasting power, especially compared to films he's done earlier in his career. Where among those films is anything like "Ed Wood", "Edward Scissorhands", "What's Eating Gilbert Grape", or "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" in terms of quality? The movie's you mentioned aren't terrible or anything, but they aren't special either.

Neverending · 07-02-2010, 04:00 AM

The point is that he's done "adult" roles in the past 7 years. Whether they were good or not is a different story.

DarthVader 2004 · 07-02-2010, 05:14 AM

He is a father now and why people don't get he wants to do more stuff you can take kids to is beyond me. Depp had a serious nature in his films for years and I think Sleepy Hallow and then The first PIrate Movie loosened his humor up and allowed him to explore his more zany chaplin side.
Anymore people in themselves are like film critics they are too tight and stuffy they forget to have fun at the movies and are no all serious.

ViRUs · 07-02-2010, 11:56 AM

RedVader is right, once you become a dad, and your an actor you cant make adult movies anymore.

southern · 07-02-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRUs

I think he was being sarcastic

Just ignore it. Maybe it'll go away.

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Originally Posted by SnoBorderZero

I personally found Public Enemies on a whole to be brilliantly mediocre

That movie was so boring we turned it off before the end. As much as I enjoy JD & CB, they didn't add anything to make that movie good.

One of the main problems I have with Pirates 2 & 3 is Bill Nighy (sp?). His voice grates on my nerves to the extent that it ruins any scene he's in. Since he's not going to be (shouldn't be) in it, this may not be so bad.

ViRUs · 07-02-2010, 01:08 PM

Yeah, I was surprised at how boring Public Enemies was too. Neither Depp or Bale really had anything to work with, and really any two actors could have filled that spot and done just as well.

Sean B. · 07-02-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRUs

Yeah, I was surprised at how boring Public Enemies was too. Neither Depp or Bale really had anything to work with, and really any two actors could have filled that spot and done just as well.

I guess some of the movies that Johnny Depp stars in are boring, and there are others like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, and the Alice in Wonderland movie, that are actually good and a few of his other movies that are good too, not all of his movies are good though

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DarthVader 2004 · 07-02-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRUs

RedVader is right, once you become a dad, and your an actor you cant make adult movies anymore.

Well more or less adult like for it harder taking your kids to a premire if its Rated R and things. Another thing though he has made adult movies such as Public Enemies, Sweeney Todd and The Libertine since he started the Pirates films

Tolkien · 07-03-2010, 08:18 AM

I think he was being sarcastic, not agreeing.

To say that an actor can't make serious (I refuse to say adult) films anymore because they have children is pretty absurd to say the least. Whether or not an actor has children has an effect on their family life, true. BUT, that does not mean that they can't make serious films in general. There are scores of father's and mothers out there who act in serious roles regardless of their family status. I'm not arguing about it, just stating my point.

Sean B. · 07-03-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tolkien

I think he was being sarcastic, not agreeing.

To say that an actor can't make serious (I refuse to say adult) films anymore because they have children is pretty absurd to say the least. Whether or not an actor has children has an effect on their family life, true. BUT, that does not mean that they can't make serious films in general. There are scores of father's and mothers out there who act in serious roles regardless of their family status. I'm not arguing about it, just stating my point.

Yeah, you do have a point there. I see what your saying, i think so too, that just because he has children now, now doesn't mean he can't do serious movie roles anymore, as like you said!. But, there is also the fact that maybe since he has children, does mean he likes to make kid friendly movies too, like Alice in Wonderland and Pirates of the Caribbean movies, because maybe that inspires him to make them still, so that's why he does it!. I do remember him saying once that he enjoys making movies that are kid friendly too, not just the serious movie type of movie roles that he does.

SnoBorderZero · 07-03-2010, 02:37 PM

I think all that having children did for Depp was stop making movies revolving around drugs, especially after the death of his friend River Phoenix from his overdose. He's still making "adult" films (tee hee), but a different batch of them.

Sean B. · 07-04-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SnoBorderZero

I think all that having children did for Depp was stop making movies revolving around drugs, especially after the death of his friend River Phoenix from his overdose. He's still making "adult" films (tee hee), but a different batch of them.

Well for all we might know, those things might change again, and maybe he'll do both kinds of movies again, meaning the ones for children and the serious type of films too, which to me, that has already happened where does do both kinds of movies now already. But, I guess we'll find out soon, which kinds of movies he'll be doing, as time goes by, i believe now adays he actually does both kinds of movies. Thats what it looks like to me, of how he's been doing that with the movies he's been in recently.

ViRUs · 07-04-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean B.

I guess some of the movies that Johnny Depp stars in are boring, and there are others like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, and the Alice in Wonderland movie, that are actually good and a few of his other movies that are good too, not all of his movies are good though

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Yeah, it wasn't really a knock on Johnny really, more on Michael Mann.

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Originally Posted by Sean B.

Well for all we might know, those things might change again, and maybe he'll do both kinds of movies again, meaning the ones for children and the serious type of films too, which to me, that has already happened where does do both kinds of movies now already. But, I guess we'll find out soon, which kinds of movies he'll be doing, as time goes by, i believe now adays he actually does both kinds of movies. Thats what it looks like to me, of how he's been doing that with the movies he's been in recently.

To like doing kids films is different than wanting to do them because he has a family. I'm sure he likes it when his kids can see his movie, but I dont see him really caring if they cant see some of them either.

Isnt he supposed to be in a movie with Angelina Jolie thats coming out sometime next year too? I dont see that being a funny type of role.

Daniel · 07-04-2010, 12:03 PM

I actually fell asleep during Pirates 3 in the theater.

Sean B. · 07-04-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I actually fell asleep during Pirates 3 in the theater.

You fell asleep when you went to see Pirates 3 in the theaters?. When i went to go and see Pirates 3 in the theaters when it came out, i couldn't fall asleep at all because there was so much going on the movie, for me to be able to fall asleep when i went to go and see it!. It was very action packed and loud, and alot of swashbuckling sword fighting during the maelstrom scene in Pirates 3 !

. And "of course" where i went to go and see it, the movie theater i went to had a pretty big screen, bigger then the average theater sceen and the sound system was incredible!

. So for me to fall asleep during the movie would have been impossible, while watching it in the theater!

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Sean B. · 07-04-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRUs

Yeah, it wasn't really a knock on Johnny really, more on Michael Mann.

To like doing kids films is different than wanting to do them because he has a family. I'm sure he likes it when his kids can see his movie, but I dont see him really caring if they cant see some of them either.

Isnt he supposed to be in a movie with Angelina Jolie thats coming out sometime next year too? I dont see that being a funny type of role.

ViRUs,
Maybe he does care if they can't see some of them, so maybe that's why he's doing movies that kids can see too, not just serious movie roles for the serious type of movies, that adults would mostly see. Also, yes he is supposed to be in a movie with Angelina Jolie thats coming out sometime next year. That i know, is not a funny type of role, or kid friendly movie, but he does do both kinds of movies now obviously, meaning the serious movies and the ones that aren't serious the movies .

ViRUs · 07-04-2010, 01:55 PM

Well, doesnt care was the wrong choice of words. I meant that I dont think the fact that his kids can/cant see the movie is a deciding factor for him when he decides to do movies.

Justin · 07-04-2010, 02:03 PM

To be honest, I saw the third one in the theatres as well, and fell asleep....

Justin · 07-04-2010, 02:08 PM

Edit.

Sean B. · 07-04-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRUs

Well, doesnt care was the wrong choice of words. I meant that I dont think the fact that his kids can/cant see the movie is a deciding factor for him when he decides to do movies.

Yes, i know what you mean.

Sean B. · 07-04-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

To be honest, I saw the third one in the theatres as well, and fell asleep....

I wouldn't pay for a movie, that i'd go to see in the theater, and then fall asleep, while it's playing on the theater screen

, I'd stay there and watch it, without falling asleep!. "No offense

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ViRUs · 07-04-2010, 06:03 PM

Maybe it was a midnight showing? I dont think I could ever fall asleep in a theater though. Come to think of it actually, I was kind of nodding off in Robin Hood. I remember I worked a 9 hour day that day and had to wake up at 5. I was more tired than I realized, but I dont think I really ever dozed off or missed any of the movie.

Panther2000 · 07-05-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tolkien

I think he was being sarcastic, not agreeing.

To say that an actor can't make serious (I refuse to say adult) films anymore because they have children is pretty absurd to say the least. Whether or not an actor has children has an effect on their family life, true. BUT, that does not mean that they can't make serious films in general. There are scores of father's and mothers out there who act in serious roles regardless of their family status. I'm not arguing about it, just stating my point.

Being that Almost all of the TOP ACTORS & ACTRESSES are parents only prove that and, they can do both. Family movies & their serious movies. Jodie fosters comes to mind. In the past few years. She has done both a few family movies & still had her adult dramaic action movies.

But I also, think that Johnny may have had a light go off when his daughter almost died duirng the making of POTCDMC( I think that it was the second movie) Hey, he already had the serious dramaic movie fanbase. But, once he did Pirates he got another base which I think he did not plan on. & being that his kids love Jack Sparrow. Hey he couldn't go wrong.

I am late but I too am very happy that there is another Thread for this movie.

We can have SANE conversations here.

I too am looking forward to this movie but, it better be good.

ViRUs · 07-05-2010, 09:23 PM

I cant even remember the last Jodie Foster movie I saw, I cant even think of one that she did for the family.

Sean B. · 07-05-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther2000

Being that Almost all of the TOP ACTORS & ACTRESSES are parents only prove that and, they can do both. Family movies & their serious movies. Jodie fosters comes to mind. In the past few years. She has done both a few family movies & still had her adult dramaic action movies.

But I also, think that Johnny may have had a light go off when his daughter almost died duirng the making of POTCDMC( I think that it was the second movie) Hey, he already had the serious dramaic movie fanbase. But, once he did Pirates he got another base which I think he did not plan on. & being that his kids love Jack Sparrow. Hey he couldn't go wrong.

I am late but I too am very happy that there is another Thread for this movie.

We can have SANE conversations here.

I too am looking forward to this movie but, it better be good.

Panther2000,
You made a very good point there, i agree with you entirely about the fact that his kids love Jack Sparrow, and that, that was a very good reason for him to continue with the POTC franchise, even after one of his kids got really sick. When i heard about that, when it had happened, i thought that was so very very brave of him to do Pirates 2, so i'd honestly tell him that myself, if i knew him, which i don't, so i can't but i really wish that i could!. Also, i as well, am looking forward to this movie, and i have a feeling that this Pirates of the Caribbean movie (Pirates 4), will be the best one yet, better then Pirates 2 and Pirates 3, because of the fact that the director Gore Verbinski messed up on Pirates 2 and Pirates 3, and luckily wont be directing Pirates 2 and Pirates 3, and that the second and third movies were filmed back to back, and the stories on the scripts for Pirates 2 and Pirates 3, were both too much of a complex story to be able to understand and keep up with while watching either of those movies!.

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07-02-2010, 11:56 AM	#54
ViRUs All for one and one for all! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,304	RedVader is right, once you become a dad, and your an actor you cant make adult movies anymore. __________________ Til I'm toppling from the top I'm not going to stop, I'm staying on my Monopoly board. That means I'm on top of my game and it dont stop `til my hip dont hop anymore. When you so good you cant say it, `cause it aint even cool for you to sound cocky anymore.

07-02-2010, 01:08 PM	#56
ViRUs All for one and one for all! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,304	Yeah, I was surprised at how boring Public Enemies was too. Neither Depp or Bale really had anything to work with, and really any two actors could have filled that spot and done just as well. __________________ Til I'm toppling from the top I'm not going to stop, I'm staying on my Monopoly board. That means I'm on top of my game and it dont stop `til my hip dont hop anymore. When you so good you cant say it, `cause it aint even cool for you to sound cocky anymore.

07-03-2010, 08:18 AM	#59
Tolkien LOTR Junkie™ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 15,029	I think he was being sarcastic, not agreeing. To say that an actor can't make serious (I refuse to say adult) films anymore because they have children is pretty absurd to say the least. Whether or not an actor has children has an effect on their family life, true. BUT, that does not mean that they can't make serious films in general. There are scores of father's and mothers out there who act in serious roles regardless of their family status. I'm not arguing about it, just stating my point. __________________ “When you want something you've never had, you have to do something you've never done.” -- The Truth. My Facebook - My Twitter - My Blog

07-04-2010, 01:55 PM	#67
ViRUs All for one and one for all! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,304	Well, doesnt care was the wrong choice of words. I meant that I dont think the fact that his kids can/cant see the movie is a deciding factor for him when he decides to do movies. __________________ Til I'm toppling from the top I'm not going to stop, I'm staying on my Monopoly board. That means I'm on top of my game and it dont stop `til my hip dont hop anymore. When you so good you cant say it, `cause it aint even cool for you to sound cocky anymore.

07-02-2010, 05:14 AM	#53
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,553	He is a father now and why people don't get he wants to do more stuff you can take kids to is beyond me. Depp had a serious nature in his films for years and I think Sleepy Hallow and then The first PIrate Movie loosened his humor up and allowed him to explore his more zany chaplin side. Anymore people in themselves are like film critics they are too tight and stuffy they forget to have fun at the movies and are no all serious.

07-03-2010, 02:37 PM	#61
SnoBorderZero There is no bathroom Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kindergarten Terminator Posts: 8,080	I think all that having children did for Depp was stop making movies revolving around drugs, especially after the death of his friend River Phoenix from his overdose. He's still making "adult" films (tee hee), but a different batch of them.

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Daniel Flawed Design Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,605	I actually fell asleep during Pirates 3 in the theater.

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Justin Executive Producer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 11,896	To be honest, I saw the third one in the theatres as well, and fell asleep.... Last edited by Justin; 07-04-2010 at 02:21 PM.

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Justin Executive Producer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 11,896	Edit. Last edited by Justin; 07-04-2010 at 02:20 PM.

07-04-2010, 06:03 PM	#72
ViRUs All for one and one for all! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,304	Maybe it was a midnight showing? I dont think I could ever fall asleep in a theater though. Come to think of it actually, I was kind of nodding off in Robin Hood. I remember I worked a 9 hour day that day and had to wake up at 5. I was more tired than I realized, but I dont think I really ever dozed off or missed any of the movie. __________________ Til I'm toppling from the top I'm not going to stop, I'm staying on my Monopoly board. That means I'm on top of my game and it dont stop `til my hip dont hop anymore. When you so good you cant say it, `cause it aint even cool for you to sound cocky anymore.

07-05-2010, 09:23 PM	#74
ViRUs All for one and one for all! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,304	I cant even remember the last Jodie Foster movie I saw, I cant even think of one that she did for the family. __________________ Til I'm toppling from the top I'm not going to stop, I'm staying on my Monopoly board. That means I'm on top of my game and it dont stop `til my hip dont hop anymore. When you so good you cant say it, `cause it aint even cool for you to sound cocky anymore.