Spider-Man (2012)

[DarthVader 2004]

Your a lone voice here for people not adjusted to the shock. But i think Spider man is so big. I imagine Marvel will push for a name Director and think Avi and Laura will decide based on Marvels likes

[DarthVader 2004]

If we are going CW then two people should play Gwen and Mary Jane.

Allison Mack Gwen Stacy.




Daneel Harris. Mary Jane.

[Deexan]

I think they chose him because of his last name.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by FranklinTard

wes anderson making spider man would be interesting. be funny if he brought all his regulars. he could certainly make it... darker.

It'd be hard to make a Spider-Man trilogy though if your title character slits his wrists halfway through the first film.

[Spirited Away]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

If we are going CW then two people should play Gwen and Mary Jane.

Your choices are good, and Allison Mack would have been perfect for the role in Spidey 3 (obviously her being in Smallville, a DC Comics series, made it then-impossible to do), but they're slightly old.

Given Peter Parker is 15/16 in the comics, they'll be after a cast of similar age, at least in looks.

[Spirited Away]

By the way, you can be almost 100% certain they'll pick-and-mix from both Marvel universes, and not just extensively focus on the regular universe. Why? Because despite being newer and with fewer characters, Ultimate Marvel is more popular than the regular universe, and outsells it by miles in both regular issues and volumes.

Marvel blends both universes together for its Marvel Studios movies, so I hope they continue this trend with the Spidey reboot. And in many cases, Ultimate Marvel just makes more sense. Venom should have been a cancer suit, not an alien organism.

[Lucifer Rising]

Frankie Muniz for Peter!
I'm joking btw

[donny]

Originally Posted by FranklinTard

wes anderson making spider man would be interesting. be funny if he brought all his regulars. he could certainly make it... darker.

Yeah, wouldn't that be great. Luke Wilson could play a suicidal Peter Parker, Anjelica Huston could be Mary Jane, and Danny Glover would be Uncle Ben.

[Deexan]

Bill Murray as the villain?

Yes please.

[FranklinTard]

Originally Posted by Tornado

It'd be hard to make a Spider-Man trilogy though if your title character slits his wrists halfway through the first film.

boom, in the wes anderson version, this is how he finds out about the webs.

[Tornado]

There you go. I like where your head's at.

[sandman822]

whoever they cast their going to be young. this fantasy casting is like 10 years off.

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Originally Posted by Spirited Away

Stop embarrassing yourself. Marc Webb's not new to directing, he has helmed over 100 professional commercials, music videos and short films in the last 15 years, some of which have had bigger budgets and crews than his feature films. He's directed more A-list talent than most directors ever meet. Educate yourself.

And it is clear you do not have a true appreciation for filmmaking, because if you had, you wouldn't ridicule commercials, music videos and short filmmaking. It requires exactly the same expertise and experience as feature filmmaking and television, and I find your comments incredibly disrespectful.

Finally, my "professional opinion" comment was in regards to my ability to be objective, and have the ability to see value in things, even if I don't personally agree with those values.

Spirited, your taking this way too personal. I never made any claim to have anything more than an interest to see Marvel/Sony get this right since they decided to scrap what was previously a sure success. I enjoy movies, I especially enjoy movies in this genre. Webb was brought up in the EW article and then you got upset because myself and Neverending used the term "yes man" to describe Sony's sudden decision to hire a new younger director, possibly w/ the intent to get compromise. Compromise which Raimi was unwilling to give into.
I've admitted twice in previous responses that my only knowledge of Webb is what I read in his IMD profile. I haven't seen his work so you are absolutely right about my lack of "education" in regards to Webb.

What I don't understand, and this is the second time in about two weeks that this type of situation has arose,is....
why do I need to be a film major or a media consultant, or or someone who has the highest appreciation for every aspect of the film making precess to discuss every topic on this board in regards to upcoming movies?
Maybe you see things differently Spirited and you may very well be 100% more educated as to what goes into the scouting of talent and what makes a great director, but you need to understand that my opinion comes from the very simplistic view of someone sitting in a theater and trying to ENJOY a movie. I don't need Spiderman to be Citizen Kane , I just want it to be done right.
Maybe Nolan directing and being successful w/ the Batman franchise has raised the bar for what this genre can achieve so it opens up the possibility of a Wes Anderson or a director that wouldn't have touched these films before to possibly come in a make an excellent and riveting film.
In the end , I really don't care who directs the damn thing as long as they stay true to the source material and don't compromise the quality of the story or base casting decisions just to draw in a certain demographic.
I guess I came off as disrespectful, but I honestly had no idea that you worked in the business until you mentioned it, so if my comments were offensive to you than for that I apologize.

[krushgroove19]

Originally Posted by donny

Yeah, wouldn't that be great. Luke Wilson could play a suicidal Peter Parker, Anjelica Huston could be Mary Jane, and Danny Glover would be Uncle Ben.

No no no! Jason Schwartzman would be Spider Man with wrist slitting action!

Also, I guess this would mean Willem Dafoe could have another crack at Green Goblin.

I'd watch a Wes Anderson Spider Man movie. It probably wouldn't be a good Spider-Man movie, but it'd be entertaining.

For reals, though, I do like the idea of Marc Webb doing a Spider-Man movie.

[Dhamon22]

I don't have a problem with Marc Webb directing the reboot. Seems like a good fit to me.

Gwen Stacey needs to be the main love interest in the first movie. I'd make Kraven the villain. Then have Green Goblin in the second movie with the bridge incident then MJ entering the picture.

[Spirited Away]

I hope they don't revisit the bridge bit, because that's already been done. And I always thought Gwen's death in Ultimate Marvel kinda sucked (she got absorbed to death by Carnage, though she's come back since), so they should create a new death scene.

[Matrix_Fan]

If Marc Webb is doing the Spider-Man reboot, there has to be a random scene where Peter dances around New York.

Oh wait, that didn't work out too well in the last movie. Nevermind, he can always have a distractingly out of place scene with Peter walking around New York while a happy song plays.........oh wait.

In all seriousness, Marc is an interesting choice. He's certainly capable of directing actors (as seen in 500 Days Of Summer, which I really liked). Action on the other hand, is something we haven't seen him do yet. Hopefully, he's up to the task.

[bbf2]

Originally Posted by Spirited Away

I hope they don't revisit the bridge bit, because that's already been done. And I always thought Gwen's death in Ultimate Marvel kinda sucked (she got absorbed to death by Carnage, though she's come back since), so they should create a new death scene.

If this movie killed Gwen Stacey the same way that she died in Ultimate Spider-Man, I would laugh so hard. Just the thought of attempting that "symbiote + cloning Peter's blood makes Carnage" ridiculousness in the first revamp movie is hilarious.

Alright, I've been thinking about this and think this movie could work. As poorly as the Norton "Hulk" movie did at the box office, I thought it was a very entertaining movie, so if this movie borrows from that as well as "Batman Begins" it could go somewhere. Just have to stick to two rules:

1. NO ORIGIN STORY. Just start with him swinging around in status quo. Please for the love of God don't start us off with Peter the nerd and give us yet another version of the spider bite and yet another version of Spidey becoming a wrestler and letting the Burglar go and Uncle Ben's death, Jesus god I wouldn't be able to stand seeing all that stuff again after it was just in a major movie 8 years ago. You can have a flashback to the spider-bite and Uncle Ben's death but please for the love of god don't start with it. This is absolutely critical, I don't think audiences would be entertained sitting through an hour of a movie saying "Wait, didn't we just see this exact same thing but slightly differently 10 years ago?"

2. A new villain (s). No Green Goblin, no Doc Ock, no Sandman, no Venom. Batman Begins, despite starting the franchise over, seemed fresh because it introduced the new series with two highest profile Bat villains who hadn't been on the silver screen yet: Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow. By the time The Dark Knight came around, they could do the Joker again because the world had already been established, and it was 18 years after the first definitive Joker movie.
-I know the Norman and Harry Osborne thing is a huge factor in Peter's early life and every new incarnation of Spidey starts with his interaction with the Osbornes, but he didn't even meet them until he got to college (although he did fight the Green Goblin without knowing who he was) so there's no need for them yet if this movie is still set in high school. The Osbornes and Goblin stuff have been DONE TO DEATH in the first few films, I don't think audiences would stand for starting over the whole "Harry is Peter's friend but he starts to become MISTRUSTFUL! Will Harry become a villain????" crap again after already getting 8 hours of it in the first three films. -Doc Ock would be a horrible idea: Molina's Doc Ock is still fresh in people's minds and people would constantly be comparing. (obviously that happened to the Joker too, but TDK was almost 20 years after the first Batman movie and had an already established new universe, the Raimi Spidey films still feel recent so they need to avoid redundancy as much as possible)
-Same with Sandman, boring ass character but people remember Church's too well. Not that they'd go with him anyway.
-I guess Venom might be okay if they go with the Ultimate background for the symbiote and a new origin (audiences will riot if they see more goop from space) since he was butchered so bad in Spider-Man 3, appeared very briefly and wasn't used in promos for the movie until later. Probably better saved for a later movie, or not at all.

Some ideas:
-Obviously the villains who are left don't have the same prestige of Spidey's "Big 3," (or the visual appeal of Sandman) but I'm sure they could cook up something interesting using some combination of The Vulture/Electro/Kraven/Scorpion, possibly the Lizard or someone else. Definitely would have to up their competence and power levels, though. In the comics Spidey can usually beat up the Vulture or Electro as a quick detour on his way back from picking up his laundry, (in fact I think in the comics Spidey stopped to beat up Electro while on the way to his wedding, no joke) so you need to make them better. Make the Vulture a callous and chilling criminal mastermind (try to make him as different as possible from Dafoe's Norman Osborne though, who is also an older cruel business CEO who gains strength, dresses in green and makes a flying contraption) and Electro a superpowerful being capable of destroying the city or something. And then tie them together somehow, make Electro a guy who doesn't realize his own strength who is being manipulated by the Vulture, or something like that. Hell, keep pursuing Malkovich as the Vulture, I'm on board with that! In fact the more I think about it the more I think The Scorpion could work - a good way to get an "anti-Spidey" into the equation and make him a stronger and more ruthless version of Spidey with similar powers, which is what Venom was supposed to be. (which is also what Gargan was supposed to be initially, but despite the fact that thematically he should be one of Spidey's toughest foes he got demoted into a B-level chump and henchman by the writers). I always thought Kraven was pretty goofy but they could make him into a real threat if they played down the costume - no Kraven's Last Hunt please though, people keep mentioning that as a possibility, but NOBODY wants to see some Russian guy bury Spidey alive and then go on a hallucinogenic trip around the city in his costume.

-Basically, all the villains who haven't been used are kinda chumps but all of them have good ideas behind them and can be made into powerful threats.

In summary,
The story should have Peter in high school, ALREADY HAVING BEEN SPIDER-MAN FOR AWHILE NOW (a brief flashback or two to the spiderbite and Uncle Ben's death is okay), interacting with Mary Jane/Gwen/whoever and other classmates (but NO HARRY OSBORN, we have seen 8 hours of Peter and Harry's relationship, it has been freaking driven into the ground) and fighting off a villain or two who are NOT some of the ones we've already seen.

[Spirited Away]

Retrospectively, it's quite hilarious, but at the time it was pretty shocking. Nobody expected such a pedestrian death for a lead character. Actually, nobody was expecting the death to begin with!

[Movie Nerd]

Originally Posted by Dhamon22

I don't have a problem with Marc Webb directing the reboot. Seems like a good fit to me.

Gwen Stacey needs to be the main love interest in the first movie. I'd make Kraven the villain. Then have Green Goblin in the second movie with the bridge incident then MJ entering the picture.

Originally Posted by bbf2

Alright, I've been thinking about this and think this movie could work. As poorly as the Norton "Hulk" movie did at the box office, I thought it was a very entertaining movie, so if this movie borrows from that as well as "Batman Begins" it could go somewhere. Just have to stick to two rules:

1. NO ORIGIN STORY. Just start with him swinging around in status quo. Please for the love of God don't start us off with Peter the nerd and give us yet another version of the spider bite and yet another version of Spidey becoming a wrestler and letting the Burglar go and Uncle Ben's death, Jesus god I wouldn't be able to stand seeing all that stuff again after it was just in a major movie 8 years ago. You can have a flashback to the spider-bite and Uncle Ben's death but please for the love of god don't start with it. This is absolutely critical, I don't think audiences would be entertained sitting through an hour of a movie saying "Wait, didn't we just see this exact same thing but slightly differently 10 years ago?"

2. A new villain (s). No Green Goblin, no Doc Ock, no Sandman, no Venom. Batman Begins, despite starting the franchise over, seemed fresh because it introduced the new series with two highest profile Bat villains who hadn't been on the silver screen yet: Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow. By the time The Dark Knight came around, they could do the Joker again because the world had already been established, and it was 18 years after the first definitive Joker movie.
-I know the Norman and Harry Osborne thing is a huge factor in Peter's early life and every new incarnation of Spidey starts with his interaction with the Osbornes, but he didn't even meet them until he got to college (although he did fight the Green Goblin without knowing who he was) so there's no need for them yet if this movie is still set in high school. The Osbornes and Goblin stuff have been DONE TO DEATH in the first few films, I don't think audiences would stand for starting over the whole "Harry is Peter's friend but he starts to become MISTRUSTFUL! Will Harry become a villain????" crap again after already getting 8 hours of it in the first three films. -Doc Ock would be a horrible idea: Molina's Doc Ock is still fresh in people's minds and people would constantly be comparing. (obviously that happened to the Joker too, but TDK was almost 20 years after the first Batman movie and had an already established new universe, the Raimi Spidey films still feel recent so they need to avoid redundancy as much as possible)
-Same with Sandman, boring ass character but people remember Church's too well. Not that they'd go with him anyway.
-I guess Venom might be okay if they go with the Ultimate background for the symbiote and a new origin (audiences will riot if they see more goop from space) since he was butchered so bad in Spider-Man 3, appeared very briefly and wasn't used in promos for the movie until later. Probably better saved for a later movie, or not at all.

Some ideas:
-Obviously the villains who are left don't have the same prestige of Spidey's "Big 3," (or the visual appeal of Sandman) but I'm sure they could cook up something interesting using some combination of The Vulture/Electro/Kraven/Scorpion, possibly the Lizard or someone else. Definitely would have to up their competence and power levels, though. In the comics Spidey can usually beat up the Vulture or Electro as a quick detour on his way back from picking up his laundry, (in fact I think in the comics Spidey stopped to beat up Electro while on the way to his wedding, no joke) so you need to make them better. Make the Vulture a callous and chilling criminal mastermind (try to make him as different as possible from Dafoe's Norman Osborne though, who is also an older cruel business CEO who gains strength, dresses in green and makes a flying contraption) and Electro a superpowerful being capable of destroying the city or something. And then tie them together somehow, make Electro a guy who doesn't realize his own strength who is being manipulated by the Vulture, or something like that. Hell, keep pursuing Malkovich as the Vulture, I'm on board with that! In fact the more I think about it the more I think The Scorpion could work - a good way to get an "anti-Spidey" into the equation and make him a stronger and more ruthless version of Spidey with similar powers, which is what Venom was supposed to be. (which is also what Gargan was supposed to be initially, but despite the fact that thematically he should be one of Spidey's toughest foes he got demoted into a B-level chump and henchman by the writers). I always thought Kraven was pretty goofy but they could make him into a real threat if they played down the costume - no Kraven's Last Hunt please though, people keep mentioning that as a possibility, but NOBODY wants to see some Russian guy bury Spidey alive and then go on a hallucinogenic trip around the city in his costume.

-Basically, all the villains who haven't been used are kinda chumps but all of them have good ideas behind them and can be made into powerful threats.

In summary,
The story should have Peter in high school, ALREADY HAVING BEEN SPIDER-MAN FOR AWHILE NOW (a brief flashback or two to the spiderbite and Uncle Ben's death is okay), interacting with Mary Jane/Gwen/whoever and other classmates (but NO HARRY OSBORN, we have seen 8 hours of Peter and Harry's relationship, it has been freaking driven into the ground) and fighting off a villain or two who are NOT some of the ones we've already seen.

Finally some people that know what they are talking about. As a HUGE Spider-Man mark it baffles me how many people dont realize how complete poop the first and third movies were. This is THE BEST thing that could happen to this movie franchise.

1st movie
- New villains. Kraven is a good choice or you already have a willing Vulture in John Malkovich.

- No MJ unless its at the end. Gwen is the love interest. Period.

- Maybe introduce Norman Osborn but keep his appearances at a minimum.

- Go the original route. As good as Ultimate Spider-Man may have been, thats not the route to go. The original Spider-Man story is a great one, and it hasnt even come close to being told. Save Carnage for a later movie...with Venom.

2nd movie
- Here comes the Green Goblin.

- Gwen dies on the bridge

- MJ can be the shoulder to cry on.

- Introduce Professor Connors

After that you arc into a storylinbe introducing villains and culminating in a movie where he battles the Sinister Six.

In the 3rd movie you can have Connors turn into the Lizard. And Kraven shows up to hunt him. So Spidey has to battle both while trying not to hurt the Lizard so he can change him back.

In the 4th you can introduce Doc Ock and maybe have Harry or another character play the Hobgoblin.

In the 5th you bring in Venom and Carnage.

And in the 6th you can introduce Electro, Mysterio or the Rhino and bring back whatever villains you want to mix up in order to make the Sinister Six.

I think the main reason for this reboot is they finally realized you dont have to always go trilogy and try to cram everything into 3 movies. As Harry Potter shows, if the story is good enough you can make as many movies as you want and people will keep lining up to see them. Especially with Spider-Man.

[DarthVader 2004]

Yes but your gonna be hard press to start as well as Spider-man did in my view. How this whole thing started back in the day was an amazing event. I not sure they can re enter that same energy.

[Spirited Away]

On the subject of love interests, here's the current state of affairs in both universes:

Marvel Universe: Peter is technically single, but is in the middle of a four-way battle between his flatmate Michael (whom he is in a casual sexual relationship with), Black Cat (whom he had a one night stand with), Norah (his reporter friend who is in love with him), and of course MJ (who is still in love, despite breaking his heart).

Ultimate Comics: completely different to the regular-verse, Peter is finally dating his true love Gwen (Peter and MJ separated after Ultimatum). The only drama is they technically live together (Gwen is Aunt May's lodger), so they've had to keep it a secret.

I for one hope they keep things simple like Ultimate Comics - Peter's only love interests should be MJ (his first), Kitty Pryde (his second) and Gwen (his true love).

[DarthVader 2004]

You gotta have Felicia in the mix somewhere at some time.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by Spirited Away

On the subject of love interests, here's the current state of affairs in both universes:

Marvel Universe: Peter is technically single, but is in the middle of a four-way battle between his flatmate Michael (whom he is in a casual sexual relationship with), Black Cat (whom he had a one night stand with), Norah (his reporter friend who is in love with him), and of course MJ (who is still in love, despite breaking his heart).

Ultimate Comics: completely different to the regular-verse, Peter is finally dating his true love Gwen (Peter and MJ separated after Ultimatum). The only drama is they technically live together (Gwen is Aunt May's lodger), so they've had to keep it a secret.

I for one hope they keep things simple like Ultimate Comics - Peter's only love interests should be MJ (his first), Kitty Pryde (his second) and Gwen (his true love).

I'll admit I haven't read a Spider-Man comic in a long time, but are you sure you don't mean Michelle or Michele or something? Michael seems like a... change of direction, so to speak.

[Spirited Away]

Hah! I meant Michele.