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Old 08-15-2006, 07:01 AM   #1
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I found this on a blog..... What are your thoughts??


To ensure we Americans never offend anyone -- particularly
fanatics intent on killing us -- law enforcement and security
screeners are not allowed to "profile" people in public places or
security checkpoints. However, they will continue to perform
random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots
with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members
of the President's security detail, 85-year-old congressmen with
metal hips and even Medal of Honor recipients. But targeting
Middle Eastern male Islamists between the ages 17 and 40
constitutes "ethnic profiling."


Let's pause a moment and review....


In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: (a) A salesman from
Utah (b) An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring
Break (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.

In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics
by: (a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A
mom and her 6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by: (a) A
bluegrass band (b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of
80-year-old women (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the
ages of 17 and 40.

During the 1980's numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
by: (a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura
(c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between
the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: (a)
A pizza delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up
for a slow news day (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the
ages of 17 and 40.

In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a
70-year-old disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown
overboard by: (a) A girls' choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A
secretary (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of
17 and 40.

In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy
diver was murdered by: (a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave
(b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound
freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A
waitress (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.

In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by: (a) A starving
actress (b) A mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over
the Pacific was attempted by (a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An
decorated Vietnam Veteran (c) Twin sisters on their way to
Paducah (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.

In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski
trip (c) A widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in
Yemen by: (a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on
their way to visit Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to
Miami (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked -- two flown into the
World Trade Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the
ground in rural Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by: (a) A
retired police officer on a mission trip to Haiti (b) A
firefighter going to Maryland for training (c) An paramedic on
his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males
between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from: (a) USAID
relief workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped
and beheaded by: (a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c)
Cuban refugees (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.

In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in
Moscow were murdered in sieges by: (a) Russian exchange students
(b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Middle Eastern Islamist
males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from "The Butcher of
Baghdad," but most American military personnel were killed by:
(a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women
without burkas (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.

In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains
by bombs in Madrid, detonated by: (a) Morning commuters (b) A
three-year-old Chinese girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains
in London, detonated by: (a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to
hail taxis (c) Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and
children, killed by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These
innocent civilians were murdered by: (a) Construction workers (b)
Farmers (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist
males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced
an extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led
by: (a) "Youth" (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500
Americans have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men,
women and children have also been murdered by terrorists. Most of
the combat and civilians casualties were the result of bombs
detonated in civilian population centers by: (a) Fruit vendors in
Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c) Iraqi
schoolteachers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.

In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by
rockets launched by: (a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the
'Jackson Five' (c) the cast of 'Friends' (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2006, a plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was
attempted by (a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese
tourists (c) groupies of the band 'Cream' (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells
still in U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been
uncovered and cell members arrested. In every case, the
terrorists cell members were: (a) Southern Baptists
Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian Elders
(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

President George Bush said this week, "America is at war with
Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us
who love freedom, to hurt our nation." The Council on
American-Islamic Relations issued an immediate objection to the
President's reference to "Islamic fascists". Nihad Awad,
executive director of CAIR protested, "We have to isolate these
individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic
faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to
be criminal. Muslims world wide know that for sure." In light of
this objection, we are left to ponder why every Islamic leader in
the U.S., and the world, does not publicly condemn every terror
action being undertaken in the name of the god of Islam. Their
silence is deafening...

Between 1970 and present, there were more than 60 other notable
examples of terrorism perpetrated by Middle Eastern male
Islamists between the ages 17 and 40, but we think you get the
point. Singling out "Middle Eastern male Islamists between the
ages 17 and 40" is not "ethnic profiling," it's "terrorist
profiling" -- acting on prolific evidence.

Anyone for Terrorist Profiling?


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Old 08-15-2006, 08:55 AM   #2
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After skimming through it, I have this to say.

Most terrorists that wish harm to the USA, the UK, Canada, etc. are Middle Eastern Muslims.

Anyone can be a terroist, yes. But odds are they are a Middle Eastern Muslim.
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:59 AM   #3
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Well, if we want to take that tactic:

Who shot Kennedy?
A) Uncle Sam on a bender
B) A white ex-Marine Corps crazy
C) The Queen
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who was the Unabomber?
A) Your mother
B) An American mathmetician and academic
C) Robert Mitchum
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who blew up a building in Oklahoma City?
A) My cousin Frank
B) A white Catholic
C) Tom Cruise's new baby
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who bombed Brighton in an attempt to kill Margaret Thatcher?
A) My sister
B) Irish extremists
C) Jack Bauer
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who bombed Olympic park?

A) My grandma
B) A white, conservative radical
C) Humphrey Bogart
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who fired missiles at the nuclear center Superphenix?

A) My second cousin
B) Eco-terrorists
C) Nowhere Man
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who shot Ronald Reagan?

A) You. You did!
B) A crazy man who grew up in Texas, belonged to an oil family and watched Taxi Driver too many times
C) Elves. Magical, magical elves.
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.


I don't know, it just seems to me that only including incidents where it actually was commited by Islamic males is incredibly biased and unscientific.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:05 AM   #4
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The sad thing is, while many terrorist organizations operate out of the middle east, not all terrorist organizations do. By concentraiting on middle easterns only causes us to ignore the non middle eastern threats.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:09 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corporal Punishment
Well, if we want to take that tactic:

Who shot Kennedy?
A) Uncle Sam on a bender
B) A white ex-Marine Corps crazy
C) The Queen
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who was the Unabomber?
A) Your mother
B) An American mathmetician and academic
C) Robert Mitchum
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who blew up a building in Oklahoma City?
A) My cousin Frank
B) A white Catholic
C) Tom Cruise's new baby
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who bombed Brighton in an attempt to kill Margaret Thatcher?
A) My sister
B) Irish extremists
C) Jack Bauer
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who bombed Olympic park?

A) My grandma
B) A white, conservative radical
C) Humphrey Bogart
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who fired missiles at the nuclear center Superphenix?

A) My second cousin
B) Eco-terrorists
C) Nowhere Man
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who shot Ronald Reagan?

A) You. You did!
B) A crazy man who grew up in Texas, belonged to an oil family and watched Taxi Driver too many times
C) Elves. Magical, magical elves.
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
To me, it

I don't know, it just seems to me that only including incidents where it actually was commited by Islamic males is incredibly biased and unscientific.
Also, SumofGod once bombed a jesus caviezel lookalike in the ***

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Old 08-15-2006, 09:11 AM   #6
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Also, SumofGod once bombed a jesus lookalike in the ass
You should probably know that CS! doesn't seem to take as kindly to these kind of posts as SHH! does.

And also, we all know that the Reptilian/Anunnaki power structure was responsible for that bombing, in order to justify the neverending, 300 BILLION dollar war on SumofGod's HETEROSEXUALITY, and supply money to the Homo/Industrial shebang for years to come.
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change your post to *** dork.


(i really do not like these smileys)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corporal Punishment
Well, if we want to take that tactic:

Who shot Kennedy?
A) Uncle Sam on a bender
B) A white ex-Marine Corps crazy
C) The Queen
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who was the Unabomber?
A) Your mother
B) An American mathmetician and academic
C) Robert Mitchum
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who blew up a building in Oklahoma City?
A) My cousin Frank
B) A white Catholic
C) Tom Cruise's new baby
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who bombed Brighton in an attempt to kill Margaret Thatcher?
A) My sister
B) Irish extremists
C) Jack Bauer
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who bombed Olympic park?

A) My grandma
B) A white, conservative radical
C) Humphrey Bogart
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who fired missiles at the nuclear center Superphenix?

A) My second cousin
B) Eco-terrorists
C) Nowhere Man
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Who shot Ronald Reagan?

A) You. You did!
B) A crazy man who grew up in Texas, belonged to an oil family and watched Taxi Driver too many times
C) Elves. Magical, magical elves.
D) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.


I don't know, it just seems to me that only including incidents where it actually was commited by Islamic males is incredibly biased and unscientific.
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Ahhhh, I love the smell of moral equivalency in the morning.
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What you call racial profiling I call "good police work".
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I've read both of those lists through pass-a-long emails. Personally I am not against profiling in airports, but I do agree that sometimes the terrorists are idiot copycats or wannabes so we should continue to screen all people as well. After all, since I get profiled AGAINST for all kinds of government grants and affirmative action programs by being a white male, why not at least use a little profiling to keep our world safer?
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I agree that there IS a type of person more likely to be a terrorist. And you'd be stupid to disagree.

The problem is that while stereotyping and picking out a specific race/culture your isolating and angering a whole community of the kind of people you want on your side to help deal with the problem.

And ofcourse there's no way you can rule out ANYONE for being a terrorist.

I can see both sides really.
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The problem with profiling is that sooner or later there will be a enw group to profile. While everyone is checking out teh Muslims, some scrawny white guy group will do something. Then while your looking for them, some big fat girl group will do something. You just never know what's going to happen.
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The problem with profiling is that sooner or later there will be a enw group to profile. While everyone is checking out teh Muslims, some scrawny white guy group will do something. Then while your looking for them, some big fat girl group will do something. You just never know what's going to happen.
And if you think that's going to be bad, just wait until the 87 year-old granny group comes to power.
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And if you think that's going to be bad, just wait until the 87 year-old granny group comes to power.
There actually IS a political group called "The Raging Grannies".
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And if you think that's going to be bad, just wait until the 87 year-old granny group comes to power.
LOL. You never know! They'll be up in arms about no cost of living Social Security increases!
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The problem with profiling is that sooner or later there will be a enw group to profile. While everyone is checking out teh Muslims, some scrawny white guy group will do something. Then while your looking for them, some big fat girl group will do something. You just never know what's going to happen.
Big Fat Girl Terrorists tried to eat the last plane I was on.

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Big Fat Girl Terrorists tried to eat the last plane I was on.

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Let's get this thread back on topic. What was the topic again? Oh, right, Fighting American's passionate cry for racial intolerance
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I take it back. You're not a dolt. That episode was hysterical!
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What's an Islamist?
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You're joking, right?
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It will be funny in 30 years, we will be fighting against Jewish terrorists.......
just like now, Islamic Terrorists are our fault, we trained these guys, we gave them weapons.... once we called them freedom fighters, now they are terrorists...........


I honestly think that everyone should be searched, regardless of age and ethnicity...... 1 year olds too 101 year olds....... no carry on luggage....

as they said in Aliens, it's the only way to be sure...
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How can you profile for all Islamaists anyhow? The ones who just got caught in England were British citizens. A large number of Muslims in the US are African American. Islam is not restricted to race.
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