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Old 07-15-2012, 11:45 AM   #551
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no it is never mentioned, lotta theories out there though. some say he was caught on purpose because he was hunting someone in the north (my guess would be the wall).
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:14 PM   #552
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I'll agree. The only way they could've caught him would be if he allowed himself to be caught. Makes sense to me.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:51 PM   #553
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Seems odd to speculate. I doubt it'll ever come up again.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:15 AM   #555
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yea the hound lives, he died as 'the hound', but brienne actually ran into him.
Yeah, the way the priest explained things to Brienne makes it pretty clear that he's still alive but the "Hound" persona has died. He says stuff like "The Hound has died, Sandor Clegane is at peace." And then she had run into some large caretaker person with half his face obscured.

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Jon being a Targaryan is just a theory at this point, right?
At this point, based on the analysis and whatnot, it would be a huge surprise if he DIDN'T turn out to be the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar.


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remember that it says cersei dies by the hands of 'the younger brother' but not specifically her younger brother, the hound is younger than the mountain though.
I think that whole thing is a hint to the fact that Jaime is the one that kills her (since he's been referenced as having come out later than her or something)
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:44 AM   #556
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i could see it, but that supposes that the franken-mountain beats the resurrected hound in their battle, and i hate that. but it would be something martin would do.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:10 AM   #557
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I don't think that the Hound and the Mountain are ever actually going to fight. It seems like it would be too much of a nicely wrapped package for Martin to actually do.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:10 PM   #558
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well, obviously, you don't believe the hound to be alive at all, so we differ in our predictions.
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well, obviously, you don't believe the hound to be alive at all, so we differ in our predictions.
I don't know. I think you've made me come around on that one. That link made some good points.
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then who will be the faith's champion?
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Well, Martin tends to **** with characters' dreams, not fulfill them. So IF the Hound gets the chance to fight his brother (even though Robert Strong is probably more Frankenstein's monster than Gregor anymore), he will likely lose. Or something else will happen, such as revealing Robert Strong's true nature. Hmm, that could be interesting.
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You know what would real **** with the readers? Something that goes perfectly, Hollywood style. That would be a twist.

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Does anyone else think the wall's coming down soon? Now that we know the horn hasn't been destroyed, it almost seems certain. As soon as I first read about the horn I knew it had to be used. As the saying goes, if a movie has a gun in the first act, it has to be used by the second one.
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Does anyone else think the wall's coming down soon? Now that we know the horn hasn't been destroyed, it almost seems certain. As soon as I first read about the horn I knew it had to be used. As the saying goes, if a movie has a gun in the first act, it has to be used by the second one.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it'll happen as well. It seems like the only real way to make the Others into the uniting threat they need to be.... otherwise that whole portion of the story is kinda pointless, all they would need to do is close off the wall and the Others are defeated from menacing the rest of Westeros.

Not to mention it'll look great on TV
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It would also release Jon from his vows.

But it would rob us of either Stannis or Jaime becoming Lord Commander of the Watch at the end.
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Oh Ian, they'll both be dead. Hell, Stannis will probably die twice.
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It would also release Jon from his vows.
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I would think considering Jons situation at the end of ADWD that has already been taken care of.

After all the first two lines of the vows are: Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death


Actually I'd say it's the whole reason that happened.
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Oh, Ty. So naive.
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Ty, the only problem with that is that the people are probably not going to accept an undead Lord of Winterfell.
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Ty, the only problem with that is that the people are probably not going to accept an undead Lord of Winterfell.
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True but I don't think Lord of Winterfell (as nice as it would be) is where Jons headed. By the time that would even become an issue they'll find Rickon. Jons story lies with Dany and bridging the gap in Melisandres visions.
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That's true. But they made such a big deal about Robb's letter, you gotta wonder whats up with that. Was it just a red herring?
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That's true. But they made such a big deal about Robb's letter, you gotta wonder whats up with that. Was it just a red herring?
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It's to make Jon legitimate before we find out his true parentage and then he can struggle wether to remain Jon Stark as he always wanted before or to be Jon Targaryen as that was his true paternal name.


Besides the wall crumbling wouldn't release any of the brothers from their vows as they would still be sworn to protect Westeros from the wights. They are shield to the realm not just keepers of the wall.
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white walkers better make it to king's landing at some point.
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I would hope so, especially with all of the pooh-poohing of the "silly monsters" at the wall.
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