The Official Presidential Debates 2004 Thread

[Baadshah]

Debate One

Let's discuss Part One of the Debates, which aired today on September 30, 2004

The other parts will be discussed later on this thread
Part Two is to air on October 8th

Be sure to vote for your President here
http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29918

But, this thread is to discuss the debates and the issues that each President addresses and how they perform.

[Baadshah]

I thought they discussed the issues properly

I think Kerry did a better job on discussing his topics, but he keeps using his time to critize the bush campaign on what they did for the last four years.

It was funny to see Bush's reaction to Kerry's speeches. Every time Kerry mention something about Bush, the TV screen splits in to two so we see Bush reactions. It looked like he had SOUR CANDY in his mouth

[Drizzt240]

I think Bush looked like a dumbass. He said, "ummmmm" too many times.

[Baadshah]

I noticed that too
And he mispronouced so maaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy words

[flukeman]

Kerry was much more collected, he seemed more intelligent and aware of the facts, and he could speak with authority and composure. That's more than I can say for his opponent.

[Drizzt240]

I don't know if you noticed but at his closing speech it sounded to me like he said , "If I remain to be your Presidenth ......."

[Baadshah]

i know

I am so waiting for the Jon Stewart Show, I like to see his take on the debates. It's going to be hilarious

[flukeman]

I couldn't tell what the hell he said half the time.....oh, apart from "nucular" - that just kills me every time.

Anyway, I'd say Kerry definitely got the upper hand in this debate.

[Drizzt240]

Originally Posted by Baadshah

i know

I am so waiting for the Jon Stewart Show, I like to see his take on the debates. It's going to be hilarious

Man! I love that show! Watch it almost every night! He called me a nerd the other night!

[equipe]

Originally Posted by flukeman

Anyway, I'd say Kerry definitely got the upper hand in this debate.

That's what I wanted to hear.

[Brock Landers]

Ehhhh, I really didn't take to either candidate in this debate. Both really haven't appealed to me yet - but if I had to pick a "winner" for this debate....Kerry.

[Boone]

Originally Posted by Baadshah

I noticed that too
And he mispronouced so maaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy words

At least Bush doesn't flip-flop his opinions... Kerry is just a two-faced smooth talker...Bush is straight to the point!

[stonefaced_1]

While I agree that Kerry didn't do anything to hurt himself, he didn't do much to help his cause either. He is down in the polls and this was his chance to come out and show everyone who he really is. He put up enough of an effort to keep the race close, but not enough to completely close the gap on President Bush. Kerry was very articulate and let's be honest looked a little smarter than Bush, but Bush made his points pretty clear, and got his message across.

Bottom line: Neither did enough to change the race one way or another. Kerry might close the gab a bit, but the next two debates are what are going to be important.

[Boone]

"We need to provide our troops with better armour."
Um, then why did you vote against the 87 billion dollar supplemental Kerry?

[stonefaced_1]

He did contridict himself on that, but I was surprised Bush didn't go after him more on his senate record on defense. That was the biggest surprise to me.

[Boone]

Kerry is so pompous and smug...

[KeyserLime]

I might bring in the HaXXors and L33t's opinions of the debate tonight.

*Ahem

*Cough

Teh Bush g0t pwnzored hard b**ches t0night

[Boone]

Hahahahaha.
I just loved the way he kept repeating that we went to war without any strong alliances.
*cough*England, Japan, Poland, Australia, Bulgaria*cough*
Keep digging your own grave Kerry with the world's foreign leaders.

[Boone]

Kerry flip flopped in the Debate!!!!!!!!!

Beginning of the debate:

"Saddam Hussein was not a threat."

End of the debate:

"Saddam Hussein was a grave threat."


Beginning of the debate:

"I will not give a veto to any country when it comes to defending the American people."

End of the debate:

"We must pass a Global Test before we set out on military action."


BTW...WTF IS THIS GLOBAL TEST THAT WE HAVE TO PASS TO DEFEND OURSELVES?

[equipe]

Originally Posted by Boone

Hahahahaha.
I just loved the way he kept repeating that we went to war without any strong alliances.
*cough*England, Japan, Poland, Australia, Bulgaria*cough*
Keep digging your own grave Kerry with the world's foreign leaders.

It's not much of an alliance when you are doing 90% of the work, taking 90% of the casualties and paying 90% of the costs.

[Boone]

Bush Clobbered Kerry....

Just by showing up!!!!
You must actually READ what that moron Kerry said...it is scary that this man actually states both sides of every issue and then takes both sides as well....IN A DEBATE.....
Kerry is unfit to be dogcatcher...much less POTUS.

[KeyserLime]

Originally Posted by Boone

Hahahahaha.
I just loved the way he kept repeating that we went to war without any strong alliances.
*cough*England, Japan, Poland, Australia, Bulgaria*cough*
Keep digging your own grave Kerry with the world's foreign leaders.

I'm sorry to make a direct attack to you, but you must a huge frickin moron if you're bagging kerry for repeating himself. We both know its HARD WORK to debate like this, and we all know the HARD WORK these candidates put into their speeches but we all know that the HARD WORK of kerry was better than that of George "I look like a deer caught in headlights cuz i dont know what im saying, someone call Dick Cheny" Bush. His HARD WORK obviously didnt pay off, as he himself looked like a total moron tonight.

Seriously, I hope your kidding when you say that he worked Kerry in the debate, if you watch the debate from a non biased point of view you would see Kerry had his facts, looked nervous in the beginning and then was fine after the first 2 questions where as bush would say Umm and pause for the first ten and then speak very slowly about the topic. His HARD WORK wasn't even noticable after the debate and i think its clear now that if the debates keep going this way, and with kerry's HARD WORK, we won't have to endure another 4 years of bush sovereignty.

[Boone]

Originally Posted by KeyserLime

I'm sorry to make a direct attack to you, but you must a huge frickin moron

that's not very nice....

Read the transcript....MSNBC just stated that the Republicans TOOK FIVE quotes from Kerry in the debate and will now run them in commercials......

So who do you think is going to benefit from this debate?

Kerry burried himself with the obvious flip flops and that stupid GLOBAL TEST that we have to pass to defend ourselves......

[KeyserLime]

Originally Posted by Boone

that's not very nice.... @55hole!

and your reply to all the comments against Bush?

Besides, in my defense, you first used the term moron against kerry, not nice then you posted a picture which many would deem unflattering, so dont turn on the innocent face for me.

[flukeman]

Originally Posted by Boone

At least Bush doesn't flip-flop his opinions... Kerry is just a two-faced smooth talker...Bush is straight to the point!

But "straight to the point" when it is the wrong point won't get you very far.

I'm so sick of this flip-flopping ****. It's called a learning process and then making an informed decision. We can all look back and say "well, he voted this way but now he thinks this" but we don't take into account that new facts are turning up every day, and sometimes, when new information is presented, it takes a little THINKING and it might require a shift in that thinking.

Charging bullheadedly straight ahead without considering the possibility that he may be wrong and may need to change his views in light of new information is what really pisses me off about Bush. And it was evident in tonight's debate.