Best movie ever-a poll for people who know the first thing about movies

Dracula · 05-02-2004, 06:11 PM

I'm doing this thred as a protest to a lesser run poll thred, I think my options better cover the full spectrum of truly great movies. If you have any issues with the list of nod.s I have up there other then it's LOTRlessness feel free to say it.

Rogue Program · 05-02-2004, 06:23 PM

I don't think either one of you is right. He put too few movies before 1980 and you've only put like 2 movies from the last 20 years. Put both of these lists together and then you'll have something

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freakyplatypus · 05-02-2004, 07:23 PM

Maybe we should use the title:
"Best Movie Ever in Your Opinion of The Selected Titles"

This poll has much better selections, kudos.

Mr.Matinee · 05-02-2004, 07:25 PM

I've actually seen and enjoyed most of These..I say Apocalypse Now.

krazy_marco74 · 05-02-2004, 07:28 PM

i haven't seen much of those movies, my choice is Pulp Fiction

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:29 PM

LOTR, though its not up there

surprised gone with the wind and wizard of oz isnt up there.

so only old movies that old critics of the so called "golden years" are good enough to be up there. (except a few)

ROTK won 11 nominations, but it doesn't deserve to be up there, no, that would be wrong, its not a masterpiece, no, it can't be, because it has special effects and made lots of money

i have't even heard of some of those. love the godfather flicks, some of my fav, as is jaws. pup fiction is OK to me

people complain that LOTR was too long, but CK was nearly just as long (it was 3 hours right) and GOD was it boring and horrible

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by krazy_marco74
i haven't seen much of those movies, my choice is Pulp Fiction

i haven't seen most of them, and i haven't even heard of several of them, and i was in a 5 month film class where all we did was watch "old classics".

Vincenzo · 05-02-2004, 07:32 PM

YAY...Citizen Kane, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, 2001, these are actulally GOOD movies. Hell, they are the BEST. Thank god you smacked some sense back into the people on CS!.

-Vincenzo

Rogue Program · 05-02-2004, 07:33 PM

Schindler's List not being on either of these lists is a disgrace. And if you're going to include Hitchcock at least include one of either Rear Window or Psycho.

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:34 PM

its all about opinions. these are only the greatest films IN HIS VIEWS

freakyplatypus · 05-02-2004, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by LordofKings
ROTK won 11 nominations, but it doesn't deserve to be up there, no, that would be wrong, its not a masterpiece, no, it can't be, because it has special effects and made lots of money

Many of the movies listed above won many, many awards, made lots of money, and made breakthrough advancements in the SFX area. Have you seen 2001? I'm more impressed with the SFX there than any LOTR film.

I think the reason films from the last few years aren't on there is because movies are now being made only to generate profit - they are created with only the audience in mind. You have to respect those like Kubrick and Welles that broke out of the ordinary with new ways of film-making and doing very un-mainstream things. They weren't in it for the profit--- they only wanted to please themselves, and achieve their vision. Few directors like this exist today, but there are the few (such as Tarantino) that care not about feeding the public what they want, but make their movies for themselves.

God bless them.

Vincenzo · 05-02-2004, 07:37 PM

Actually, as I look at the poll I noticed that Citizen Kane and Lawrence of Arabia have gotten no votes. Those have both been rated the best movie ever made by most critics. I mean Pulp Fiction is GREAT!!! But does it REALLY compare to Lawrence of Arabia.

-Vincenzo

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by freakyplatypus
Many of the movies listed above won many, many awards, made lots of money, and made breakthrough advancements in the SFX area. Have you seen 2001? I'm more impressed with the SFX there than any LOTR film.

I think the reason films from the last few years aren't on there is because movies are now being made only to generate profit - they are created with only the audience in mind. You have to respect those like Kubrick and Welles that broke out of the ordinary with new ways of film-making and doing very un-mainstream things. They weren't in it for the profit--- they only wanted to please themselves, and achieve their vision. Few directors like this exist today, but there are the few (such as Tarantino) that care not about feeding the public what they want, but make their movies for themselves.

God bless them.

Ummm...movies have always been made for money. sorry. and more art and work and heart goes into MANY FILMS today, not all, but films like LOTR, and Gladiator and Forest Gump (which should be on the DAMN LIST, as well as The Shawshank(sp) Redemption)

and better EFFECTS then LOTR? are you crazy? and how many movies up there on that list sweept the awards, with 11 OSCARS??????????????????

Rogue Program · 05-02-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Vincenzo
Actually, as I look at the poll I noticed that Citizen Kane and Lawrence of Arabia have gotten no votes. Those have both been rated the best movie ever made by most critics. I mean Pulp Fiction is GREAT!!! But does it REALLY compare to Lawrence of Arabia.

-Vincenzo

Yes, yes it does.

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Vincenzo
Actually, as I look at the poll I noticed that Citizen Kane and Lawrence of Arabia have gotten no votes. Those have both been rated the best movie ever made by most critics. I mean Pulp Fiction is GREAT!!! But does it REALLY compare to Lawrence of Arabia.

-Vincenzo

What old critics think means nothing. so what they voted it the best, MOST OTHERS have never seen these films (i have seen CK).

im curious that in about 50 years, what the old critics (critics of today) will think and rate the best movie (prob will be LOTR, its just prob will happen) and i wonder if many of those films on that list will be disregarded. who knows what people will think in the future

critics who voted these best of all time like these films because they grew up during them (or around that time)

Vincenzo · 05-02-2004, 07:43 PM

Well Lord of Kings, LOTR may have had better special effects than 2001 in todays standards, but back then it was mind blowing. LOTR uses SFX that has already been accomplished by other movies, but what is better? Making a breakthrough in the world of SFX, or just making a LITTLE bit better what movies like the Matrix have already done.

-Vincenzo

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Vincenzo
Well Lord of Kings, LOTR may have had better special effects than 2001 in todays standards, but back then it was mind blowing. LOTR uses SFX that has already been accomplished by other movies, but what is better? Making a breakthrough in the world of SFX, or just making a LITTLE bit better what movies like the Matrix have already done.

-Vincenzo

what year did 2001 come out? im curious. and you wouldn't call MASSIVE breakthough???/MASSIVE was created for LOTR if you didn't know. LOTR was breakthrough in many fields. and the special effects weren't the only thing GREAT about LOTR

Vincenzo · 05-02-2004, 07:47 PM

Well LordofKings, that is ctually a good point, but its not what I meant. I meant that in GENERAL it has been rated the best movie of all time and not becuase people grew up with it, that has nothing to do with it. I am 14 and I consider it the best of all time, but I did not grow up with it. With a move like that, it is passed down, it has nothing to do with, "Well I didnt grow up with it so it is not as good."

-Vincenzo

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:47 PM

why isn't the ORG STAR WARS on the list???

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Vincenzo
Well LordofKings, that is ctually a good point, but its not what I meant. I meant that in GENERAL it has been rated the best movie of all time and not becuase people grew up with it, that has nothing to do with it. I am 14 and I consider it the best of all time, but I did not grow up with it. With a move like that, it is passed down, it has nothing to do with, "Well I didnt grow up with it so it is not as good."

-Vincenzo

I understand you completely.

Man im making many enemies today, good thing none of you are mods

freakyplatypus · 05-02-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by LordofKings
What old critics think means nothing. so what they voted it the best, MOST OTHERS have never seen these films (i have seen CK).

im curious that in about 50 years, what the old critics (critics of today) will think and rate the best movie (prob will be LOTR, its just prob will happen) and i wonder if many of those films on that list will be disregarded. who knows what people will think in the future

critics who voted these best of all time like these films because they grew up during them (or around that time)

I wish I had that quote from Robert Ebert, the one about people never experiencing the joys of Welles and ect... I would totally use it to serve you.

Sorry to say it, but critics aren't as close minded as all the rabid LOTR fans out right now, and will still be considering Citizen Kane, Clockwork Orange, and Casablanca great films - no matter how old it gets.

People still applaud the genius of Bach and Beetoven, and they'll still be 50 years from now. Will they be talking about the musical genius of Hillary Duff and Simple Plan 50 years from now, simply because of the fact that it's popular now, and has sold a few here and there? No! Of course not! Wine gets better as it ages.

Vincenzo · 05-02-2004, 07:53 PM

PERFECT WAY TO PUT IT IN WORDS FREAKY!!!! I wanna see Lord respond to that one.

-Vincenzo

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by freakyplatypus
I wish I had that quote from Robert Ebert, the one about people never experiencing the joys of Welles and ect... I would totally use it to serve you.

Sorry to say it, but critics aren't as close minded as all the rabid LOTR fans out right now, and will still be considering Citizen Kane, Clockwork Orange, and Casablanca great films - no matter how old it gets.

People still applaud the genius of Bach and Beetoven, and they'll still be 50 years from now. Will they be talking about the musical genius of Hillary Duff and Simple Plan 50 years from now, simply because of the fact that it's popular now, and has sold a few here and there? No! Of course not! Wine gets better as it ages.

That quote won't serve me, and i think i know what your talking about. i have seen Wells and ect... films and there NOT JOYS (IMO)

IM not close minded, i watch these films with open minds, i simply don't like most of them. your close minded if you think my opinions of these old films is wrong...

and to your music analogy, hillary duff and others may be popular, but not like LOTR is. you won't see duff winning grammy's

LordofKings · 05-02-2004, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Vincenzo
PERFECT WAY TO PUT IT IN WORDS FREAKY!!!! I wanna see Lord respond to that one.

-Vincenzo

well i just did...

gnarley · 05-02-2004, 07:56 PM

Jaws, I haven't seen every movie listed but of the ones I have seen, it's my favourite.

View Poll Results: Best film ever
2001: A Space Odyssey	4	8.51%
Godfather saga	8	17.02%
Citizen Kane	2	4.26%
Lawrence of Arabia	2	4.26%
Once Upon a Time in the West	1	2.13%
Apocalypse Now	1	2.13%
Pulp Fiction	9	19.15%
Rashomon	1	2.13%
Goodfellas	1	2.13%
Blade Runner	2	4.26%
Dr. Strangelove	0	0%
The Third Man	1	2.13%
Seven Samurai	2	4.26%
Notorious	0	0%
The Bridge on the River Kwai	1	2.13%
Paths of Glory	0	0%
The Wild Bunch	0	0%
A Clockwork Orange	4	8.51%
Jaws	8	17.02%
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre	0	0%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

05-02-2004, 06:11 PM	#1
Dracula Bloodgod Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 15,112	Best movie ever-a poll for people who know the first thing about movies I'm doing this thred as a protest to a lesser run poll thred, I think my options better cover the full spectrum of truly great movies. If you have any issues with the list of nod.s I have up there other then it's LOTRlessness feel free to say it. __________________ Check out my review blog

05-02-2004, 07:23 PM	#3
freakyplatypus Señor PAIN Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere where I don't know where I'm at Posts: 2,379	Maybe we should use the title: "Best Movie Ever in Your Opinion of The Selected Titles" This poll has much better selections, kudos. __________________ http://www.nunsgonewild.net A site so mysterious that you have to click on it lest your family burst into flames while being attacked by ninjas

05-02-2004, 07:25 PM	#4
Mr.Matinee EL MUERTO!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shizzville Posts: 4,509	I've actually seen and enjoyed most of These..I say Apocalypse Now. __________________ I'm charged up.Don't put me down. Don't feel like talking.Don't mess around.

05-02-2004, 07:29 PM	#6
LordofKings King of Kings Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of Myth and Shadow Posts: 7,098	LOTR, though its not up there surprised gone with the wind and wizard of oz isnt up there. so only old movies that old critics of the so called "golden years" are good enough to be up there. (except a few) ROTK won 11 nominations, but it doesn't deserve to be up there, no, that would be wrong, its not a masterpiece, no, it can't be, because it has special effects and made lots of money i have't even heard of some of those. love the godfather flicks, some of my fav, as is jaws. pup fiction is OK to me people complain that LOTR was too long, but CK was nearly just as long (it was 3 hours right) and GOD was it boring and horrible __________________ "I've been around enough terror, enough horror I have seen, to know greatness when greatness is around me. And you my friend... Will be great. They will deam you the King of all Kings; and forever shall that title be spoken in honor of your name." Last edited by LordofKings; 05-02-2004 at 07:32 PM.

05-02-2004, 06:23 PM	#2
Rogue Program at peace with nature Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784	I don't think either one of you is right. He put too few movies before 1980 and you've only put like 2 movies from the last 20 years. Put both of these lists together and then you'll have something .

05-02-2004, 07:28 PM	#5
krazy_marco74 Executive Producer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,194	i haven't seen much of those movies, my choice is Pulp Fiction

05-02-2004, 07:32 PM	#8
Vincenzo Floor Licker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Making My Way Through Downtown LA Posts: 1,297	YAY...Citizen Kane, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, 2001, these are actulally GOOD movies. Hell, they are the BEST. Thank god you smacked some sense back into the people on CS!. -Vincenzo __________________ FK SOCCER MOMS!!!**

05-02-2004, 07:33 PM	#9
Rogue Program at peace with nature Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784	Schindler's List not being on either of these lists is a disgrace. And if you're going to include Hitchcock at least include one of either Rear Window or Psycho.

05-02-2004, 07:34 PM	#10
LordofKings King of Kings Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of Myth and Shadow Posts: 7,098	its all about opinions. these are only the greatest films IN HIS VIEWS __________________ "I've been around enough terror, enough horror I have seen, to know greatness when greatness is around me. And you my friend... Will be great. They will deam you the King of all Kings; and forever shall that title be spoken in honor of your name."

05-02-2004, 07:37 PM	#12
Vincenzo Floor Licker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Making My Way Through Downtown LA Posts: 1,297	Actually, as I look at the poll I noticed that Citizen Kane and Lawrence of Arabia have gotten no votes. Those have both been rated the best movie ever made by most critics. I mean Pulp Fiction is GREAT!!! But does it REALLY compare to Lawrence of Arabia. -Vincenzo __________________ FK SOCCER MOMS!!!**

05-02-2004, 07:43 PM	#16
Vincenzo Floor Licker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Making My Way Through Downtown LA Posts: 1,297	Well Lord of Kings, LOTR may have had better special effects than 2001 in todays standards, but back then it was mind blowing. LOTR uses SFX that has already been accomplished by other movies, but what is better? Making a breakthrough in the world of SFX, or just making a LITTLE bit better what movies like the Matrix have already done. -Vincenzo __________________ FK SOCCER MOMS!!!**

05-02-2004, 07:47 PM	#18
Vincenzo Floor Licker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Making My Way Through Downtown LA Posts: 1,297	Well LordofKings, that is ctually a good point, but its not what I meant. I meant that in GENERAL it has been rated the best movie of all time and not becuase people grew up with it, that has nothing to do with it. I am 14 and I consider it the best of all time, but I did not grow up with it. With a move like that, it is passed down, it has nothing to do with, "Well I didnt grow up with it so it is not as good." -Vincenzo __________________ FK SOCCER MOMS!!!**

05-02-2004, 07:53 PM	#22
Vincenzo Floor Licker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Making My Way Through Downtown LA Posts: 1,297	PERFECT WAY TO PUT IT IN WORDS FREAKY!!!! I wanna see Lord respond to that one. -Vincenzo __________________ FK SOCCER MOMS!!!**

05-02-2004, 07:56 PM	#25
gnarley Out of here... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,426	Jaws, I haven't seen every movie listed but of the ones I have seen, it's my favourite.