NOES Prequel

kauvarvo · 01-11-2004, 11:38 AM

Does anyone have info one this...I heard it might be made...

spiderman_2k · 01-11-2004, 11:40 AM

This rumour has been floating around for years, It has become a more active rumour since the release of Freddy VS Jason.
It might be made, if it is, it would be Interesting and it's a good idea, but it has to be handled right and in a very dark tone, no comedy or anything like that.

PsychoMike · 01-11-2004, 11:43 AM

It could be interesting as long as it is done right. It should be dark, very dark. If Wes Craven is involved it sholud keep true to the original NOES.

kauvarvo · 01-11-2004, 11:48 AM

Cause I really liked the Pre-Nightmare Freddy in FVJ even though it was a short look into what he was like

spiderman_2k · 01-11-2004, 11:49 AM

Yeah that bit was the freakiest bit of FVJ, it was an Interesting look at the Freddy character before he was killed.

cg124 · 01-11-2004, 12:07 PM

he's a very disturbing chracter so it could work

mentiroso · 01-11-2004, 04:59 PM

Well in part 5 or 6 we got to see him with his daughter and killing his wife. I may be wrong on which part it was but you get the point.
That basement full of all the different types of gloves he made was disturbing.
Could be the story of a normal guy who just snaps because of an abusive father (Alice Cooper in the movie). He designs all these gloves used to kill innocents and has to test them all out before he finally finds the right one.

Now it wont be the one he wears now because at the beginning of NOES 1 it shows him already burnt and disfigured, making that glove. Who knows though. Maybe it is a spare.

cg124 · 01-11-2004, 08:45 PM

if they make the movie they should make it serious and disturbing, they dont' need freddy saying a bunch of jokes

Tenafly Viper · 01-12-2004, 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by cg124
if they make the movie they should make it serious and disturbing, they dont' need freddy saying a bunch of jokes

I agree, but they'll never go that way with it. It just wouldn't fit the rest of the franchise and Englund is kind of funny looking out of make up (

).
Personally I hope they never make it because they wouldn't do it right and because we already know everything we need to know about the Springwood Slasher, there wouldn't be any suspense because we would already know what is going to happen.

mentiroso · 01-12-2004, 10:19 AM

Yeah but everyone knew how Titanic was going to end but they still made it the number one movie ever made.

Not that I am in anyway comparing the two, just saying that everyone knew it was going to sink and just went to see how cool it looked.

We all know Anakin will grow to be Darth Vader but we still pump money into those horrible prequels. I would much rather see a NOES prequel than the third SW prequel.

Tenafly Viper · 01-12-2004, 11:45 AM

The thing is the ship Titanic was just the setting, we were introduced to characters and their stories that we knew nothing about going in so the film held the viewers interest.

A Freddy Prequel would be about a character that we know everything about already. More then Anakin even, we didn't know where Anakin was from, who his parents were or the fact that he created 3po, and that he was a slave as a boy or that he was considered the chosen one or that he lost his arm to Dooku etc. etc.
But they've already given so much of Freddie's past away already, his mother was a nun who was raped by 1000 maniacs, Freddy was teased and taunted by the other kids, he was beaten by an abusive father as a teen, he made different types of gloves he was a father and yet a child molester and murderer who was released on a technicality and burned alive by angry parents, the film would also take place entirely in Springwood. Basically I don't feel there is a lot they can do with so many details already given, it would be an unimpressive Englund killing teens (no way children) ala Scream, just my opinion.

kauvarvo · 01-12-2004, 05:50 PM

I dont know about you Viper but seeing a disturbing and scary trip into Kruger's psyche is enough to make me want to see it...and I'm sure plenty of people would agree with me

Izzy · 01-19-2004, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by kauvarvo
I dont know about you Viper but seeing a disturbing and scary trip into Kruger's psyche is enough to make me want to see it...and I'm sure plenty of people would agree with me

I don't agree. We've already seen the "scary" trip into Kruger's psyche. There's not much to work with. Like a friggin' biography or something. He'd be killing kids throughout the whole movie? Watching 90 minutes of killing kids? I'd like to give a swift kick in the balls to whoever's wanting to see it.

mentiroso · 01-19-2004, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Izzy
I don't agree. We've already seen the "scary" trip into Kruger's psyche. There's not much to work with. Like a friggin' biography or something. He'd be killing kids throughout the whole movie? Watching 90 minutes of killing kids? I'd like to give a swift kick in the balls to whoever's wanting to see it.

I think you are thinking on too small of a scale. Freddy was what, 30-40 years old, when he was captured. You figure he was out killing children for maybe 2-3 years before he was caught and killed. You have at least 25 years before that where he was growing into this killer. We all know his adopted father beat him, he was teased as a child. But what else made him into this horrible person? You could do a whole movie about that and never show a killing at all. The movie could end with him being married and having a kid, and then show him in the cellar making his first glove. There is a lot of story to be told. All we saw in flashbacks was a few beatings and teasing from others. But what really made him snap and just start killing?

Movie mogul · 01-19-2004, 01:25 PM

Well who knows...Wes Craven could even write some more about Freddy's past? Its going to be hard to come up with the right sort of movie for the story....I think what sells is Freddy burnt and with his glove therefore if this movie is made you will see it!

Tenafly Viper · 01-20-2004, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by mentiroso
I think you are thinking on too small of a scale. Freddy was what, 30-40 years old, when he was captured. You figure he was out killing children for maybe 2-3 years before he was caught and killed. You have at least 25 years before that where he was growing into this killer. We all know his adopted father beat him, he was teased as a child. But what else made him into this horrible person? You could do a whole movie about that and never show a killing at all. The movie could end with him being married and having a kid, and then show him in the cellar making his first glove. There is a lot of story to be told. All we saw in flashbacks was a few beatings and teasing from others. But what really made him snap and just start killing?

mentiroso I'm not going to say for a fact that it couldn't work or happen. But what I will say is that me personally, I don't need to see it, and that the likelihood of the Nightmare on Elm St. franchise going in that direction is highly unlikely. Because the series has been rooted in a cartoon like world of violence. Freddy Krueger as we know him today is the entire franchise, like mogul pointed out. NOES will never aspire to make its faithful audience think that hard, that's ground better left to films like Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer. Ultimately when it comes to Freddy I don't think it was just one single event that created the Springwood Slasher as much as it was the sum of all those events combined over years of abuse, and didn't the first NOES open with Freddy fashioning his glove.

mentiroso · 01-20-2004, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Tenafly Viper
and didn't the first NOES open with Freddy fashioning his glove.

Yeah, I mentioned that in an earlier post. But in parts 5 I think, when it flashes back to him before being killed, it shows his cellar full of different gloves. Maybe he was just making a new one at the beginning of NOES 1?

Still could be an awesome movie.

Movie mogul · 01-20-2004, 02:29 PM

But i think we need to identify the audience for this sort of movie. Would this prequel be made for the fans or to attract audience who are not so familiar with the series? As i said before Freddy is who everyone knows and loves therefore is there a point in a prequel?
I think a new NOES should be made and in this movie you would have a good hour of freddy's past, abuse and his growth into a killer leading to his death...the rest of the movie could have freddy back in nightmares.

droidguy1119 · 01-20-2004, 04:22 PM

Maybe we'll find out where the sweater and hat come from...

mentiroso · 01-20-2004, 08:24 PM

He got them on special at Wal-Mart. Where all mass murderers/boogeymen shop.

droidguy1119 · 01-20-2004, 09:03 PM

Yeah, they're in cahoots with that evil Rollback smiley.

halo7 · 01-25-2004, 11:48 AM

wow they should name it KRUGUER: portrait of a DREAM Master.

im being sarcastic unless you really like the title

01-26-2004, 02:43 AM

I found this on a website
http://www.thezreview.co.uk/comingso...eetprequel.htm

Tuesday 12th August 2003: Elm Street prequel Update:
Robert Englund has revealed there is a script in development for an Elm Street prequel that is called Elm Street: The First Murders. No word if New Line has greenlighted this yet.

droidguy1119 · 01-26-2004, 09:46 AM

Well, it was reported here on CS, and also he talks about it in the FvJ audio commentary ("It would be interesting, but it's something I've heard about New Line wanting to make or making for a long time,').

01-11-2004, 11:38 AM	#1
kauvarvo New User - Level 0 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In my own personal hell... Posts: 96	NOES Prequel Does anyone have info one this...I heard it might be made...

01-11-2004, 12:07 PM	#6
cg124 KAZAAM Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: yo face Posts: 33,774	he's a very disturbing chracter so it could work __________________ "Tobias, You Blow Hard!"

01-11-2004, 08:45 PM	#8
cg124 KAZAAM Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: yo face Posts: 33,774	if they make the movie they should make it serious and disturbing, they dont' need freddy saying a bunch of jokes __________________ "Tobias, You Blow Hard!"

01-20-2004, 04:22 PM	#19
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01-20-2004, 09:03 PM	#21
droidguy1119 I am a space alien Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In space Posts: 17,018	Yeah, they're in cahoots with that evil Rollback smiley. __________________ I'm here, sometimes. Facebook \| LiveJournal \| MySpace \| My DVDs (RIP DVDSpot) \| My Reviews \| The Castle Boards \| My Works 220 CS Reviews and Counting! "Even though I'm no more than a monster, don't I have the right to live?" -- Oldboy (2003)

01-11-2004, 11:40 AM	#2
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,350	This rumour has been floating around for years, It has become a more active rumour since the release of Freddy VS Jason. It might be made, if it is, it would be Interesting and it's a good idea, but it has to be handled right and in a very dark tone, no comedy or anything like that.

01-11-2004, 11:43 AM	#3
PsychoMike Back, again, maybe Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 7,484	It could be interesting as long as it is done right. It should be dark, very dark. If Wes Craven is involved it sholud keep true to the original NOES.

01-11-2004, 11:48 AM	#4
kauvarvo New User - Level 0 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In my own personal hell... Posts: 96	Cause I really liked the Pre-Nightmare Freddy in FVJ even though it was a short look into what he was like

01-11-2004, 11:49 AM	#5
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,350	Yeah that bit was the freakiest bit of FVJ, it was an Interesting look at the Freddy character before he was killed.

01-11-2004, 04:59 PM	#7
mentiroso Banned Status Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Albany, Ga Posts: 1,846	Well in part 5 or 6 we got to see him with his daughter and killing his wife. I may be wrong on which part it was but you get the point. That basement full of all the different types of gloves he made was disturbing. Could be the story of a normal guy who just snaps because of an abusive father (Alice Cooper in the movie). He designs all these gloves used to kill innocents and has to test them all out before he finally finds the right one. Now it wont be the one he wears now because at the beginning of NOES 1 it shows him already burnt and disfigured, making that glove. Who knows though. Maybe it is a spare.

01-12-2004, 10:19 AM	#10
mentiroso Banned Status Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Albany, Ga Posts: 1,846	Yeah but everyone knew how Titanic was going to end but they still made it the number one movie ever made. Not that I am in anyway comparing the two, just saying that everyone knew it was going to sink and just went to see how cool it looked. We all know Anakin will grow to be Darth Vader but we still pump money into those horrible prequels. I would much rather see a NOES prequel than the third SW prequel.

01-12-2004, 11:45 AM	#11
Tenafly Viper Executive Producer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,926	The thing is the ship Titanic was just the setting, we were introduced to characters and their stories that we knew nothing about going in so the film held the viewers interest. A Freddy Prequel would be about a character that we know everything about already. More then Anakin even, we didn't know where Anakin was from, who his parents were or the fact that he created 3po, and that he was a slave as a boy or that he was considered the chosen one or that he lost his arm to Dooku etc. etc. But they've already given so much of Freddie's past away already, his mother was a nun who was raped by 1000 maniacs, Freddy was teased and taunted by the other kids, he was beaten by an abusive father as a teen, he made different types of gloves he was a father and yet a child molester and murderer who was released on a technicality and burned alive by angry parents, the film would also take place entirely in Springwood. Basically I don't feel there is a lot they can do with so many details already given, it would be an unimpressive Englund killing teens (no way children) ala Scream, just my opinion.

01-12-2004, 05:50 PM	#12
kauvarvo New User - Level 0 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In my own personal hell... Posts: 96	I dont know about you Viper but seeing a disturbing and scary trip into Kruger's psyche is enough to make me want to see it...and I'm sure plenty of people would agree with me

01-19-2004, 01:25 PM	#15
Movie mogul Legend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,027	Well who knows...Wes Craven could even write some more about Freddy's past? Its going to be hard to come up with the right sort of movie for the story....I think what sells is Freddy burnt and with his glove therefore if this movie is made you will see it!

01-20-2004, 02:29 PM	#18
Movie mogul Legend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,027	But i think we need to identify the audience for this sort of movie. Would this prequel be made for the fans or to attract audience who are not so familiar with the series? As i said before Freddy is who everyone knows and loves therefore is there a point in a prequel? I think a new NOES should be made and in this movie you would have a good hour of freddy's past, abuse and his growth into a killer leading to his death...the rest of the movie could have freddy back in nightmares.

01-20-2004, 08:24 PM	#20
mentiroso Banned Status Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Albany, Ga Posts: 1,846	He got them on special at Wal-Mart. Where all mass murderers/boogeymen shop.

01-26-2004, 02:43 AM	#23
mOVIEmONSTER Guest Posts: n/a	I found this on a website http://www.thezreview.co.uk/comingso...eetprequel.htm Tuesday 12th August 2003: Elm Street prequel Update: Robert Englund has revealed there is a script in development for an Elm Street prequel that is called Elm Street: The First Murders. No word if New Line has greenlighted this yet.

01-26-2004, 09:46 AM	#24
droidguy1119 I am a space alien Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In space Posts: 17,018	Well, it was reported here on CS, and also he talks about it in the FvJ audio commentary ("It would be interesting, but it's something I've heard about New Line wanting to make or making for a long time,'). __________________ I'm here, sometimes. Facebook \| LiveJournal \| MySpace \| My DVDs (RIP DVDSpot) \| My Reviews \| The Castle Boards \| My Works 220 CS Reviews and Counting! "Even though I'm no more than a monster, don't I have the right to live?" -- Oldboy (2003)