Official 2013 MLB Thread - Page 8

**JBond** · 04-29-2013, 11:21 PM

Take it from a Brewer fan who notices these things...Braun is NOT on a pedestal. He gets booed in every stadium, they chant "steroids," he didn't get voted as a starter for the All-Star for the first time...you make it sound like everyone's forgotten. And what, you think he's got a clean, controversy-free career ahead of him because you heard a crowd in Milwaukee cheering him today? He could miss the hall of fame because of a failed drug test that no one can shed any light on. Do I think Braun is completely innocent? No, something almost certainly went down in 2011. But you'd have to be crazy to think he's consistently taking PEDs, let alone steroids. Testing is a lot better these days and they're switching to blood testing soon if they haven't already.

flyersfan92 · 04-29-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

Just think about it, bonds never even tested positive. Braun has been in the news linked to roids multiple times but nobody villifies him, we don't have an espn reporter following/hounding him at his every turn for the past couple years, how do the guys that get tested today and fail win mvps and still stand up to the court of public opinion?

Don't think well see Jones in right too often and wandy was due. Of course Sanchez is a great guy to bring in...

ryan braun must not have taken anything since he appealed his suspension that ended up being overturned by major league baseball .

barry bonds was and will always be an egotistical jerk so his treatment regarding the steroids everyone knows he took is well deserved .

FranklinTard · 04-30-2013, 04:29 PM

... based off a technicality, it wasn't 'over turned' really, just thrown out, it was still a sample that was positive, they just didn't document it correctly. now he is getting more publicity because he went to that miami clinic.

testing sure is better, i mean just ask lance one nut armstrong how good testing is. i can wait. he beat every one. every single one. created an industry just to beat those tests. you think he kept them all for himself? only the biking community gets the good drugs? because baseball players sure don't have any money or anything to buy them with. whats bruans contract again?

docstop · 05-01-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flyersfan92

barry bonds was and will always be an egotistical jerk so his treatment regarding the steroids everyone knows he took is well deserved .

I'm a sports purist and I think any player who has cheated (steroids, etc.) no matter if he was a nice guy, deserves to be punished for it. Both Bonds and Clemons got extra negative attention because they weren't always the nicest with the media. Getting back to the punishment, the player will always have the moniker of "once a cheater always a cheater," so I'm of the opinion that once a player has served his suspension people need to move on.

flyersfan92 · 05-01-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

... based off a technicality, it wasn't 'over turned' really, just thrown out, it was still a sample that was positive, they just didn't document it correctly. now he is getting more publicity because he went to that miami clinic.

testing sure is better, i mean just ask lance one nut armstrong how good testing is. i can wait. he beat every one. every single one. created an industry just to beat those tests. you think he kept them all for himself? only the biking community gets the good drugs? because baseball players sure don't have any money or anything to buy them with. whats bruans contract again?

if that was true then ryan howard , cole , roy , ect would be juicing too .

FranklinTard · 05-01-2013, 04:47 PM

I don't at all follow your logic. Do they all have "alleged" false positives?

And doc, what if they test positive, appeal based off a technicality and win, and never serve a suspension?

Look at the reports of the nfl player that estimates about 12 players on every team are using some sort of hgh. Do you assume their testing is worse or better than mlbs?

flyersfan92 · 05-02-2013, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

I don't at all follow your logic. Do they all have "alleged" false positives?

And doc, what if they test positive, appeal based off a technicality and win, and never serve a suspension?

Look at the reports of the nfl player that estimates about 12 players on every team are using some sort of hgh. Do you assume their testing is worse or better than mlbs?

ryan howards deal is over 120 million much bigger then ryan braun's 105 million if howard wanted to buy roids he could .

FranklinTard · 05-02-2013, 06:16 AM

Oh, as I assumed, your logic is flawed.

**JBond** · 05-02-2013, 12:23 PM

Everyone knows the good roids cost 110 million.

docstop · 05-03-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

And doc, what if they test positive, appeal based off a technicality and win, and never serve a suspension?

That means the system is broken and needs to fix the loop holes for cheaters to take advantage of. I'd make sure that player is randomly tested on numerous occasions throughout the off season when they actually take the 'roids. Also, unfortunately this doesn't work, but it would be nice if MLB teams collectively decided to not sign the player to a contract. I say this with some reservations because I think everyone deserves a second chance and, looking at my Bluejays, they picked up Melky Cabrera who was unsigned by his former team the Giants despite having a great year but did use steriods.

docstop · 05-08-2013, 01:28 PM

First Bluejays 3 game win streak, 2 big, come from behind victories. Comes at a major price with Happ getting taken off on a stretcher last night after taking a line drive off the side of his head. The sound of it hitting was disgusting.

**JBond** · 05-08-2013, 01:42 PM

I saw that. That was rough.

docstop · 05-12-2013, 07:12 PM

Happ, Johnson and Morrow all on the DL. With a semi-injured Dickey and Buerlhe's inconsistency, I hope the Jays can keep it together. Put on a power show today dumping the Red Soxs big time.

**JBond** · 05-12-2013, 09:07 PM

Oh, baseball? Is that still going on...

Ramplate · 06-06-2013, 09:15 AM

I just saw an article that suggested this 100 game suspension spree could backfire and cause more athletes to use enhancing drugs.

Start putting a no drug clause in new contracts with a lifetime ban for any infractions.

**JBond** · 06-06-2013, 12:42 PM

No one's going to get a 100-game suspension.

FranklinTard · 06-06-2013, 05:01 PM

Yea they are lawyering up and id be pretty shocked if they get suspended on this guys testimony.

Although, they all deserve it.

When djokovich started dominating in the last couple years he moved to Miami.... coincidence? Maybe, but id bet not.

**JBond** · 06-06-2013, 05:15 PM

So why do the Marlins suck so much, anyway?

FranklinTard · 06-06-2013, 05:26 PM

they have like 1 player that could afford hgh on the whole team...

**JBond** · 06-06-2013, 07:07 PM

FranklinTard · 06-11-2013, 10:35 PM

Gerritt Cole. Hit 99 tonight, and the buccos bandwagon has officially kicked the tires.

04-29-2013, 11:21 PM	#176
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	Take it from a Brewer fan who notices these things...Braun is NOT on a pedestal. He gets booed in every stadium, they chant "steroids," he didn't get voted as a starter for the All-Star for the first time...you make it sound like everyone's forgotten. And what, you think he's got a clean, controversy-free career ahead of him because you heard a crowd in Milwaukee cheering him today? He could miss the hall of fame because of a failed drug test that no one can shed any light on. Do I think Braun is completely innocent? No, something almost certainly went down in 2011. But you'd have to be crazy to think he's consistently taking PEDs, let alone steroids. Testing is a lot better these days and they're switching to blood testing soon if they haven't already. __________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

04-30-2013, 04:29 PM	#178
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,801	... based off a technicality, it wasn't 'over turned' really, just thrown out, it was still a sample that was positive, they just didn't document it correctly. now he is getting more publicity because he went to that miami clinic. testing sure is better, i mean just ask lance one nut armstrong how good testing is. i can wait. he beat every one. every single one. created an industry just to beat those tests. you think he kept them all for himself? only the biking community gets the good drugs? because baseball players sure don't have any money or anything to buy them with. whats bruans contract again? __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

05-01-2013, 04:47 PM	#181
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,801	I don't at all follow your logic. Do they all have "alleged" false positives? And doc, what if they test positive, appeal based off a technicality and win, and never serve a suspension? Look at the reports of the nfl player that estimates about 12 players on every team are using some sort of hgh. Do you assume their testing is worse or better than mlbs? __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

05-02-2013, 06:16 AM	#183
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,801	Oh, as I assumed, your logic is flawed. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

05-02-2013, 12:23 PM	#184
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	Everyone knows the good roids cost 110 million. __________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

05-08-2013, 01:28 PM	#186
docstop Hockey Legend Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,522	First Bluejays 3 game win streak, 2 big, come from behind victories. Comes at a major price with Happ getting taken off on a stretcher last night after taking a line drive off the side of his head. The sound of it hitting was disgusting. __________________ Never deprive anyone of hope... it may be all they have.

05-08-2013, 01:42 PM	#187
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	I saw that. That was rough. __________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

05-12-2013, 07:12 PM	#188
docstop Hockey Legend Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,522	Happ, Johnson and Morrow all on the DL. With a semi-injured Dickey and Buerlhe's inconsistency, I hope the Jays can keep it together. Put on a power show today dumping the Red Soxs big time. __________________ Never deprive anyone of hope... it may be all they have.

05-12-2013, 09:07 PM	#189
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	Oh, baseball? Is that still going on... __________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

06-06-2013, 09:15 AM	#190
Ramplate Muwahahaha!...Hamster. Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 25,779	I just saw an article that suggested this 100 game suspension spree could backfire and cause more athletes to use enhancing drugs. Start putting a no drug clause in new contracts with a lifetime ban for any infractions. __________________ "When I said 'nuke the Chinese' I meant put the take out in the microwave!" "We're not spies, mate. I don't even speak Russian." "What?" "I don't...Am I speaking Russian? How come I'm speaking Russian?"

06-06-2013, 12:42 PM	#191
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	No one's going to get a 100-game suspension. __________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

06-06-2013, 05:01 PM	#192
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,801	Yea they are lawyering up and id be pretty shocked if they get suspended on this guys testimony. Although, they all deserve it. When djokovich started dominating in the last couple years he moved to Miami.... coincidence? Maybe, but id bet not. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

06-06-2013, 05:15 PM	#193
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	So why do the Marlins suck so much, anyway? __________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

06-06-2013, 05:26 PM	#194
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,801	they have like 1 player that could afford hgh on the whole team... __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

06-06-2013, 07:07 PM	#195
JBond Beyond Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sol Posts: 67,663	__________________ The due date for Round 137 of the CS Film Club is Monday, July 1st, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

06-11-2013, 10:35 PM	#196
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,801	Gerritt Cole. Hit 99 tonight, and the buccos bandwagon has officially kicked the tires. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)