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Old 01-30-2013, 11:32 AM   #26
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Sorry too medicated and in a fog to write something in great detail today but here are the some of highlights
Arizona V Jodi Arias

this week started with a prosecution misconduct hearing - so far it's a pretty flimsy case that the defense put forward to try and get everything stopped.
They say that the Prosecutor contacted a witness on the defense list to get him to change his testimony or to not testify all together - the prosecutor has some surprise witnesses of their own and the defense had to ask for a recess to prepare lol - so that is going on outside the jury while the defense has started their case with the jury.

So far they're trying to paint her as a sweet innocent girl who had a boyfriend and a house, but then got mixed up with deviant Travis Alexander and everything went downhill from there. The ex has been on the stand and the prosecution got him to admit that Arias asked him over and over again for gas cans for her trip = supposedly so she wouldn't have to buy gas anywhere near Mesa AZ. - she didn't answer his question of why she needed them at first but eventually told the ex-bf that she was going to LA (didn't happen)
He "couldn't recall" a comment he made to police about her saying that Travis had been killed and she didn't have an alibi.
He was obviously trying to shield her.

Oh, before the case began, the Defense put forth a plea deal for second degree murder, but the prosecution refused - why?
Because if she had done the deal she would be out in 16 years - and they rightfully said no way!
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:23 AM   #27
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Continuing- The gas cans were so that she didn't have to stop for gas near Travis' location and leave any record of her being there - so the prosecution says. Sounds like it to me too. as the next time she bought gas was in Vegas where she met with her makeout buddy.

More on the relationship she left for Travis Alexander - the guy was 20 years older, divorced and with a son. He was her boss for a while until she got promoted at the resort where they worked, then became coworkers and started to get closer uuntil a relationship developed.
They moved in together and bought a house together. This was a four year relationship, nearer the end she stopped keeping up with bills and was looking to make more money than she could at her two jobs - it was them she gout out the information about the Prepaid Legal stuff, and then when she went to the convention everything in their relationship fell apart even though they remained friends.

Third witness for the defense yesterday was the girl Travis thought was marrying material - they has a relationship that was on and off a few times mainly because he wasn't respecting her - grabbing her butt in public, among other things like not listening to her, wanting her to change for him, and cheating with Arias. She was just 19 when they started seeing each other in their Mormon singles social group and he was almost turning 29 at the time and was looking to settle down - and she felt she was too young to settle down just yet.
She did meet Arias as they were at a gathering at Travis' house - she was not dating him at the time - but she said she saw Arias being clingy and trying to hold hands or be in physical contact with Travis and he basically ignored her that evening with everyone around.

Defense strategy - smearing Alexander as a deviant who thought of women as objects

I haven't heard too much more on the Proprietorial Misconduct Hearing, but I doubt that is going to halt the proceedings.

Meanwhile Nancy Grace is still an idiot - she visited the Maracopa County Jail where Arias is being held - dressed up as a prisoner, and interviewed a guard while testing out the lifestyle - She layed down in a cell on the bedding and after 2 seconds declared "well this isn't bad" - yeah Nancy, try it for 20 years or so lol.
Then she was taken to the mess hall and shown what the prisoners were given to eat and she raved that they get nice oranges and while listening to the guard, started grazing on the example tray they presented to her lol
foolish foolish

QUICK EDIT _ just found out this morning that after televised portions of testimony yesterday - the prosecutor shocked the court by adding up all of the things the Girlfriend had said about Travis, he asked did he deserve this? And all of a sudden flashed the picture of Travis with a slit throat onto the court screens.
He could have warned people, because no one was expecting that and Travis' three siblings in the gallery quickly left. The witness looked rather shocked too - hand over her mouth. He could have done it differently, but it brought the focus back on what was done to Alexander versus what kind of young guy with overactive urges he had.
He did get her to say that she didn't really understand men at the time and their urges and such, and she admitted being pretty harsh on him in her last e-mail the last time they broke up.
This is also the girlfriend who got her tires slashed by someone and noticed Arias following them
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:53 AM   #28
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Not much to report but...

near the end of the court day, the defense called someone who knew both Travis and Jodi and went on a couple of trips with them and the witnesses sister (she briefly testified but she didn't have much to add - she was young at the time).
He reported that Travis didn't abuse her in front of them - but an abuser doesn't usually have an audience.
There was one trip where Jodi borrowed this guy's extra back pack for a hike they were going to go on that day and he picked it up to take it to the car, and found it was way too heavy for hiking, so he opened it up and started taking out unnecessary things she had packed - mostly beauty products.
She would not need those for hiking - she came down stairs and saw all her makup and shampoo and lotions on the counter and threw a fit. She and Travis started arguing and she ran upstairs - Travis went up after her to calm her down, and the witness said he didn't hear anything specific but it was an argument that was shortly over and they were on their way.

So far the defense is going to have to pull a rabbit out of their hat in order to save Arias - because nothing solidly pointing to abuse from Travis has been presented - there was a neck mark and a broken finger she was asked about, and she said Travis did it, but that doesn't amount to much really.

Speaking of rabbits being pulled out of their hats - the defense called a forensic computer specialist to look at the computers and so on - and the defense whipped out an exhibit they said was found on Travis Alexander's laptop - it was a picture of an erect penis.
The judge immediately called the end of the court day, told the jury "ok, that's it for today see you all on Monday" the prosecution was about to object and she didn't want the side show in front of the jury. lol

Mostly what the defense has shown is that Arias was a willing participant in her and Travis' activities.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:10 AM   #29
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Hi there,

Been a while but I'm not finished yet - just a wee bit slower

Arizona v Jodi Arias

Well, she actually took the stand late two days ago and so far she was admitted killing Alexander - because he attacked her and she was defending herself.

Beginning with that she sounded like a robot droning out an standard answer with no tears for the action.
She also tried to explain her "No jury will ever convict me" quote by saying "because I was planning to commit suicide, but couldn't say it in the interview" because they would have put her in the rubber room until wasn't a danger to herself.
But in the tape she says "because I'm innocent"

They're trying to humanize her in front of the jury - she speaks directly to them, but her body language is rather telling - she'll look down and to the left, usually that shows deceptive statements, Sometimes she'll look up and to the right - that supposedly shows she's working things out in her head.
She has been rather unemotional though - so I while the jury is listenin to every word, I'm not certain they're buying it either.

The defense lawyer has been going very slowly through her history with relationships, and at first the prosecutor would object when she rambled off on a tangent, but he's really recently just been taking notes and letting her babble since then.
She said that life was great up until the age of 7 when her father began using the belt, and her mother started carrying around a wooden spoon.
(she never says anything about why they were disciplining her like that - but I did hear she was a little bit of a problem child - we shall see of the cross examination goes there.

Then she gets into a string of failed relationships with boyfriends, guys who either abused her (she says one tried to choke her) or cheated on her.
She talks about going to see the other girl in a couple of times when this happened - interesting because that shows a propensity to go to confront people - however she said they ended up just talking.
So they spent the better part of 2 days talking about 5 previous relationships in pretty good detail (which might come back to haunt her) and THEN they started talking about Travis Alexander.
The testimony got a little too racy for the station so they censored parts of it - especially the encounters with Travis which included a BJ in a car in a parking lot.

She said she didn't love him quite then because it was the first time after the convention they had seen each other - but as with the convention she was just going with the flow - and arguing about not wanting to do that in the car seemed less disagreeable than getting into a fight over it. This happened pretty quickly - within days of going to the convention she had ended a 4 year relationship with the person she bought the house with. He was about 20 years older than her, but Travis was only a few years older. I'll say one thing about Alexander, he was pretty persistent in getting to know her and show his importance in the Prepaid world. I think she had stars (or maybe dollar signs) in her eyes.

And for 2 days that's about how far the defense has gotten with her. very slow, but I'm sure things will perk up once she gets to describing the killing, and I just as sure that she's gonna be ripped a new one by the prosecutor

So, so far she's been a willing participant in things, or at least she hasn't been showing objections. And she's been rather unemotionally detached from the words that are coming out of her mouth.
Upcoming is supposedly a phone sex tape she made while on the phone with Travis.
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Well, court abruptly ends yesterday again. There is no court today or Friday.

More of Jodi and Travis' relationship was told - very slowly (I think the jury almost groaned when the defense lawyer wanted to back up a bit - it's been so slow)

She has a lot of details and dates in her head that's for sure. It seems that Travis treated her differently from the start and she just went along with it. He would only get cozy with her in front of close friends and roommates, or when they took a trip to different states as they visited LDS historical sites around the mid-US
Other than that - in larger groups, or in front of other church members, and his PrePaid associates, he was distant.
According to her - he was distant after sex too - most guys are to some degree. But we only have her word to go by - as he is dead. She said though that she felt like a hooker, or a used piece of toilet paper - yet she kept on seeing him.
She seems like a chameleon trying to fit into his world suddenly jumping in with both feet. Still, very little emotion on the stand.
At the end of the day she was talking about Travis' first valentine's gift - she said she got some chocolates that were melted and a shirt and underwear that said "Travis Alexander's" on them. under that was a set of boys Spider-man underwear which has not been explained yet because the started discussing a letter supposedly written by Travis that was the last thing in the box. The defense wanted to enter the letter ito evidence and the prosecutor objected - and that's when court ended for the day.

So far there is nothing in her testimony that leads to self defense - from here the stabbing seems to be an accumulation of experiences all blowing up at once.
We shall see next week how this turns up - she will be on the stand a long time - once the defense is done with her, the prosecution has a lot of stuff to go through - and he's been taking lots of notes
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Note: This is a pretty bare bones account of what actually happened, but the basics are here

In case #1 Science and Industry joined hand in hand to gain a government contract.
In case #2 Science ran afoul with help from a government health agency
Case #3 Brought Industry to hiding facts and smearing the truth

In each case science or industry ran the show with disastrous results - but what about government taking the lead - what happens then?


The Undesirables

Imagine you are a citizen of the state. You go to a medical facility to have an operation, but when you are wheeled out to a recovery area, you have undergone two operations.
You have been deemed to be on the undesirable list, which means you have been sterilized. Was there a complication during your procedure that lead to having to sterilize you? No, everything went as planned. Then why? You might have been mentally deficient, you might have been blind,
or maybe you had the wrong parents....


Eugenics
the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, especially by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics)

Sounds like Nazis, right?

Nope, actually they learned it from us in the USA. and modeled their program on the one in use in California.
In the early part of the 20th century the idea was at it's most popular several places around the world practiced it, so we were not alone. Over 30 states here though, had a eugenics program of some level or another. But North Carolina used its program rather injudiciously.
The passage of the law in 1929 allowed sterilization for cases of epilepsy, sickness and feeble mindedness
Unfortunately that was stretched to include, women who had a child out of wedlock (if only someone could have done that to Octomom the first time around, huh?), even if they had been raped, One subject "wore men's clothing all the time", some young women were sterilized because they had parents that didn't seem right and they wanted to eliminate the possibility of incest.
And at the time, these were not delicately done operations, some have said they felt like their guts had been ripped out, some actually died after the procedure.
Most states halted their eugenics program after world war 2 because it was too close to the Nazi Death Camp idea - North Carolina continued right up until 1974 and it was getting so that the list of undesirables included may black and poor people.

How did this expand like this - especially after 1945? One reason is The Human Betterment League. A small group of professionals with huge bankrolls that went on a publicity campaign, which the local papers bought into and ran with.
These people included James G. Hanes (yes, the underwear king), Clarence Gamble (of Proctor & Gamble), and a few others who were leaders in medicine and had disposable income.
Another thing is the rubber stamping of the eugenics board who claimed that they had thought that everything had been approved by the time it got to their desks.

The law was repealed in 1974 and apologies have been made, some are still hoping for their day in court, some have had a judgment already the aftermath is still with us and will be for quite some time.

The program is responsible for a total of 7,600 people becoming sterilized with or without their consent or knowledge.
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Colorado v James Holmes

The apartment

There were dozens of black football shaped canisters filled with black powder all over the apartment. Black powder (3 megajoules per kilogram), is slightly less powerful than TNT (4.7 megajoules per kilogram) and you need quite a bit of it - but in several dozen shaped canisters, the large shrapnel produced would bring devastation to anyone caught in the blast.
One megajoule is approximately the kinetic energy of a one-ton vehicle moving at 100 mph.

He made use of liquid wires (electrical wires that can be stretched without breaking) for his various trip wires and to connect his devices, along with various trigger black boxes with blinking lights set up all over the apartment. I believe he also had a jar or two half full of bullets (more explosive flying debris), over 30 homemade grenades, and 10 gallons of gasoline.
There was some sort of jar filled with a liquid, and several green soda bottles also filled with an unknown substance (the police are still not telling what they contained - some kind of chemicals I would imagine.) There was also a main triggering device in the kitchen.

He had left his stereo on a timer set to go off slightly before the time as the theater attack, so that when the loud music started to play, someone would come and investigate. Someone did knock on his door, but thankfully did not open it. The devices could have blasted through several apartment walls, and certainly could have weakened the building, if not collapsed part of it.

Holmes now faces 152 charges.
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It's story time! Gather around kiddies

History is full of prolific killers, some more than others.
There are tyrants who have others do most, if not all, of their killing for them.

Idi Amin (15,000+ victims - who knows what the real number was), Ferdinand Marcos ( 75,000 were killed during his reign), Vlad Ţepeș (somewhere around 80,000), Pol Pot (@1 million), Vladimir Lenin (4 million), Josef Stalin (at least 8 million), Adolph Hitler (12 million) Mao Zedong (@35 million),
Dishonorable mention: Marcus Licinius Crassus ordered 6,000 of Spartacus' army of slaves lined up from Capua to Rome along the Appian Way and crucified them all as a warning to anyone else thinking of revolt. Imagine having to walk that ancient road with 124.27 miles of dead and dying bodies raised on crosses.

Then there are those with a more hands on approach.

Aileen Wuornos (7 victims) Jeffrey Dahmer (17), Joel Rifkin (17), Wayne Williams (24), John Wayne Gacy (33), Ted Bundy (34), Alexander Pichushkin (48), Andrei Chikatilo (53), Gary Ridgeway (71 ), Luis Garavito (138 confirmed)

There is, however, a place where these two groups intersect...

Don't Cross the Streams...It Would be Bad!


Countess Elizabeth Báthory de Ecsed "The Blood Countess"

Elizabeth was born in Hungary sometime around 1560 to Stephen VII Bathory, a local Transylvanian military leader, and her mother (also Elizabeth) a cousin to the king of Poland, and duke of Transylvania. In her youth she learned to read and write German, Latin, and Greek.
In 1545 in front of more than 4,000 people, she married Count Ferenc Nádasdy de Nádasd et Fogarasföld in what was most likely a political arranged marriage.
By 1578 her husband had become a commander of Hungarian troops, and fought against forces of the Ottoman Empire who had raided the area. This required Elizabeth to take care of things back at home, she did help the peasants avoid some of the worst consequences they faced - especially the women of the area.
Somewhere around 1585 she gave birth to a daughter, Anna, followed by Katalin, György, Orsolya, Pal, and Miklos. - all of whom were cared for by governesses as Elizabeth had.
Her husband died in 1604, presumably of some malady due to an injury sustained in the war - not unusual as simple cuts could lead to death in those times. It was also around this time that a steady stream of rumors and complaints peaked the interest of one Lutheran minister István Magyari and an investigation was ordered.
The authorities collected statements from about 300 witnesses - It seems that over the years several peasants young daughters had become missing, some being kidnapped off the streets, some lured by the promise of earring money for becoming maidservants to the castle. That alone didn't raise so much concern outside the poor families, after all, it was just the poor.
Soon enough though there weren't enough young ladies to fill those positions in the area, so another area was chosen as the "employment" grounds. And curiously, some lesser noble's daughters who had been sent to learn courtly manners began to disappear - that is what really raised the red flags.

Elizabeth never attended her own trial and entered no plea, but what came about were tales of torture that lasted for weeks and even months, locked in cages to be burned with hot pokers, cut with scissors, poked with needles - one torture is said to have been covering the body with honey and leaving it staked outside where the insects could have their way with it.
Tale after tale was recounted, some witnesses even saying they had seen what happened to a few victims, but one of the most damming pieces of evidence was found in Elizabeth's own journal entries.
It seems she became fascinated with blood when she slapped a servant girl for pulling her hair too hard, and drew blood. She looked at where the blood had landed on her skin and had gotten the idea that it was the answer to eternal youth - that's when she had her four henchmen set up a "shower" as well as a bathtub so that she could bathe in the blood of the youthful maidens.

I believe 6 people went on trial - all but Elizabeth were found guilty. The four henchmen were consigned to the fire and burned at the stake - but not before all their fingers were ripped off their hands with hot pokers, one was spared this as a lesser involved party, but he did lose his head before burning in the fires. Two women called "witches" were not put to death, but I am not certain of their fate.

Elizabeth being a noble, could not be executed by law. She was put under house arrest to avoid more public scandal. walled into the basement of her castle with only a single slit in the wall for bringing her food and tending to other needs.
She lived this way for four years until someone noticed several meals had gone uneaten - looking in they found her face down dead.
Under public protests to having her buried on hallowed ground in a churchyard within town, her body was brought to the ancestral home in Ecsed.

Her actual body count is not accurately known, as she carried on her obsession at three different homes of hers. At first, she took great care to give her victims a proper burial, but with a body count so high this concern fell by the wayside. Many were buried on various properties, as well as in mass graves in unknown places. Sure she had help, but she was very present and a very hands on killer.
Her journal was said to have listed 650 names.
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Arizona v Jodi Arias

Well now, they got to the meat of the relationship today - still slow testimony, but lots of salacious scandalous details - keeping in mind this is from the accused who is on trial for her life. In any event, the censor had their work cut out for them today. This was Smear the dead guy day.

The boy's Spider-man underwear in the valentine box - this was supposedly for her to wear while Travis Alexander had his way with her from behind. They also talked about his supposed humiliation sex fantasy. He allegedly also wanted sex on the freeway with her.
She talked about visiting him one day and finding his cell phone in the cushions of the couch, so she took it and locked herself into the bathroom to read his text messages - and found out that she and he were not exclusive - so she went home and broke it off with him over the phone. That was the end of the bf/gf/ thing, but not the end of the sexual relationship.
In her taped interrogation she had claimed that after they broke up she moved to his town Mesa Arizona because things were already in motion and she was set to go.
BS - today under oath she had a place to live, but no job prospects lined up at all.
She moved to a place that was 10 minutes from his house, and finally found some service job at a restaurant or two. Travis also hired her to be his maid - and allegedly wanted her to dress like a French maid while doing it. I don't think she actually ever did, but while she was working there, he apparently took the opportunity to have his way with her. Sometimes they would clandestinely spend the night and leave early in the morning.
Apparently he was good at insulting her and then apologizing for it - so she enabled him to have another chance because she still loved him.
She even took a weekend trip to NY with him to see some of the sights he found in a book called 1,000 Places to see Before You Die - she "sobbed" when she was shown some of the "couples pictures" they took at places like Niagara Falls.

One time she was sleeping in his bed and said she found him on top of her having regular sex (a definite sin) with her.
And get this, she was helping him clean the attic and he brought out a porcelain angel and gave it to her - when she left she forgot to take it so she called his phones and didn't get an answer, and since it had only been about 10 minutes since she had left, she went back into the house and up to his room to get the angel - and allegely found Travis kneeling on the bed pleasuring himself to pictures of 5 year old boys in their underwear. Making Travis Alexander the first human in history since the computer age to have printouts of child porn despite the authorities finding nothing on his computer, or phone, and nothing in his apartment to do with child porn.

She left in a hurry she says, and he left messages on her phone trying to have her call to apologize and explain that he was trying to fight his inner demons - and she bought it.

This is nothing more than her word with no evidence to back it up - this all doesn't draw the conclusion that she was in fear for her life on the day she killed him, but I think this will be explained away by the psychologists and other experts - as she knew his dark secret so he wanted to do away with her.
Anyway you slice it, the prosecution has a lot of ammo once it's his turn for sure.

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EDIT - One thing I keep forgetting to mention. Jodi Arias gave her mother some photocopies of a long letter supposedly written by Travis Alexander, where "he confesses a lot of his inner demons" those urges he's supposedly a slave to. She instructed her mother to take a few of those handwritten pages to - The National Enquirer (Dun dun duuuunnn).
Her mother isn't to blame for passing off these papers as Travis', she's only trying to help her daughter by being the messenger.
I have heard an excerpt from the publisher (who by the way hasn't published them due to not knowing their veracity or true origin - I know, the Enquirer has shown some ethics?) and these written pages do not sound like a guy wrote them.
In any case,, they are not allowed to be admitted into court as evidence because she has been unable to produce the originals, for forensic and handwriting analysis purposes.

Otherwise, "the spaghetti defense" (throw everything against the wall and see what sticks) rambles on and on
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Well now, I find myself up at 4am because my cat yacked up on my quilt and it is in the wash, so here's a quick one....

Ask Not For Whom The Bell Tolls

No doubt that true crime fans have heard the phrase "Angels of Mercy". for the rest of you it is the term coined for health care people who assist people in ending their lives. Often it is a terminally ill patient, but not always, some don't want to go, but the power of feeling God-like goes to some people's heads and egos. These killers often feel inadequate in their lives and are looking for some power over others - especially the helpless.
I have a collection of these types of stories, and in the future I may tell you all of some of the most bizarre. I have told this one to actual nurses while I was in rehab, and invariably, they stand there with their mouths agape at the incidents, and results.

Angels of Mercy use a variety of methods - one of the most successful in the past was arsenic, not usually tested for unless there is some probability that it has been used - the only real clue to begin to look for that is by someone with an extraordinary sense of smell, as not everyone notices the smell of almonds that is left behind on the deceased. I believe it is tested for more often these days because it is found in many products to kill rodents and other varmints.

Another one that killers used to get away with is succinylcholine. It is a controlled substance so you pretty much have to work in a hospital or laboratory type of surrounding, and most often it is taken inventory of these days - but it's a clear liquid, so not hard to replace with something like water for appearance purposes.
The drug is a muscle relaxant used in operating procedures and and a few other treatments. It will temporarily paralyze the patient so that certain procedures can be carried out - like Tracheal intubation - that's where they push a tube into a hole in your throat to the trachea so you can breathe, if your airways have been otherwise blocked.

Use of too much of the drug can cause a patient to stop breathing and die - did I mention it is also used in lethal injection executions? After they strap you to a gurney, and administer a drug that puts you to sleep the execution is carried out by a lethal dose of this drug.
It very popular with angels of mercy, as it is very hard to detect in toxicology tests performed at autopsy, because it quickly breaks down into other elements found naturally in the body - it took a while, but now there is an actual test for it - but they really only look for it if it is suspected.

But that's not even what happened at Lainz General Hospital in Vienna, Austria in around 1983.
It all started with a 77 year old patient who begged to die. At first Waltraud Wagner, then aged 23, resisted, but finally gave in and administered a lethal injection of morphine (that'll do it too). She discovered that while doing this it gave her a thrill to play God.
Lethal injections though were not enough of a thrill for her, so she recruited Maria Gruber, 19, Ilene Leidolf, 21, and Stephanija Mayer 42 - they were all pretty much night nurses who didn't like their jobs taking care of the elderly, the especially took exception to 'Bell Ringers".
These were the patients who really put their call buttons to use several times a night - this infuriated them. So to cure what ailed them, Wagner created "the water cure".
Two of the nurses would enter the room of one of these annoying patients - they'd pull the curtain closed, and one nurse would hold the patient's head still and hold their nose so they would have to breathe through their mouths. The other nurse would then pour water down their throats, and slowly drown the patient - sometimes this would take more than 20 minutes giving the nurses all the thrills they were looking for.
This went on for about 5 or 6 years - death after death piled up, but no one raised an eyebrow because elderly people confined to bed often develop water in their lungs naturally. However, the four of them became rather careless and talked about it at the nurse's station and laughed and giggled with delight - another person on one of these shifts overheard them and blew the whistle.
Hospital records began to be looked at and authorities noticed an elevated rate of death in one wing of the hospital at certain hours of the night. Investigation began, some bodies were looked at more closely, but they couldn't check them all.
Eventually they four confessed to about 49 murders, but then scaled back their number while sitting in jail awaiting trial - they were convicted of less than that total.
Wagner was given life in prison, as did Leidolf, while the other two were given 15 year sentences for manslaughter.
Unfortunately with time cut for good behavior Wagner and Leidolf have presumably been released after serving only 20 years of their life sentences.
49 victims - but some estimate the 6 year total as up to 200 patients - no one can be absolutely sure though, after all, it's only water.
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Arizona v Jodi Arias

Day 4 on the stand for Arias? Hard to keep track.
Court was delayed yesterday apparently because Arias was a complete mess and had lost it - the sex tape was going to be played and the time she has to recount the day she killed Alexander is coming up soon.

The defense has been telling the court what a sexual deviant and controlling monster Alexander was - but the tape showed nothing of the sort.
It sounded consensual and Arias was an enthusiastic participant - I really don't know what the defense was thinking when they decided to play the tape (that she made by the way), and I think they have pretty much shot themselves in the foot with it if that is all the corroborating evidence they can come up with to try to back up her story. Alexander actually seemed like he was going to fall asleep at times in the recording - he was at least very relaxed.

Anyway, she recounted a slap, a broken finger, a grabbed wrist, and being pushed to the floor in her story leading up to her going back to Yreka, California. She also showed several checks that she wrote to Alexander presumably because he was behind in his bills - hard to believe because he ws on one of the upper tiers of Prepaid Legal, and she was pretty well short of money as well. She had to ask her mom for money to move back to California.

Someone pointed out an interesting question yesterday - she recounted an event where she ruined his car engine (I didn't catch how), but as the story goes, she had to kill him in self defense because she dropped his camera?
Wouldn't you think he'd pound her over the engine rather than a camera? It doesn't make sense if he was such a monster.

In any event, today sounds like the day she will have to explain the 29 stab wounds, the slit throat, and the shot to the face she gave him.
That sounds more like rage than self defense - in self defense one has to present evidence that the force she used equaled the danger she thought herself to be in. There were three fatal wounds she caused - why didn't she just do enough to stop him, and escape? Like I said - this was a rage killing.
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I was wrong - today is day 6 for Arias on the stand
I don't have to wait for all the evening shows because it was the same ****, different day.

Today was an excruciatingly slow again, they back up to text messages to show how she was "controlled" by him from 1.000 miles away.
The long list of text messages was Travis' messages to her - but none from her (apparently they have been deleted) to show her responses.
He's apparently telling her who she can associate with and who he doesn't like, and being rude.
This is still a month away from the day she killed him - the jury is getting bored from what one observer said, and another said that the people in attendance are cracking Jodi jokes during breaks.
Still not enough to justify her stabbing him 29 times, slitting his throat, and shooting him in thee face.
She still wants to marry him at this point even though he's supposedly a pedophile.


EDIT - She's now been on the stand two days longer than it took the prosecution to present their whole case.
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No court today, the judge called in sick.

Where the dedicated meets the insane

Definition of dedicated
adjective
• 1devoted to a task or purpose: a team of dedicated doctors
• 2exclusively allocated to or intended for a particular purpose: a dedicated high-speed rail link from the Channel Tunnel

Definition of insanity
noun
[mass noun]
• the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness: he suffered from bouts of insanity
• extreme foolishness or irrationality: it might be pure insanity to take this loan [count noun]: the insanities of our time

Two definitions from the Oxford English Dictionary - how are they connected, other than appearing in the same .....

Definition of lexicon
noun
• the vocabulary of a person, language, or branch of knowledge: the size of the English lexicon
• a dictionary, especially of Greek, Hebrew, Syriac, or Arabic: a Greek-Latin lexicon

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The Oxford English Dictionary - far from being the first or largest collection of vocabulary, there were earlier and larger works in German, Italian, and other languages, as well as several primarily incomplete and unorganized collections here and there which also included words no longer in common use, and those words only used in certain circles of society.
It is with that thought that work began on the project in 1857 under a different longer name A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles; Founded Mainly on the Materials Collected by The Philological Society and was published in parts beginning in 1884.
The title it now has began being published in 12 volumes in 1895.
The work had many, many people at the helm through the years and versions, as well as many contributors after a public notice for help was printed - James Murray being the third editor.
Many thought that Murray would not have what it took to compile all the miscellaneous slips of paper with quotes defining many words collected from all over by book enthusiasts.
He was however, a determined driven man very interested in words his work on the project began in 1879, and with the help of many assistants, and contributors continuing to mail in definitions he worked tirelessly on it in a shed separate from the other buildings on the grounds of the Mill Hill School. The post office erected a box just to carry the volume of entries he was receiving from all over.
The group under Murray managed to categorize and deal with nearly 1,000 of those entries a day. Nine years later the first volume ending with the letter B was printed in 1888.
In 1897 a banquet was held by the Oxford University Delegates to honor 18 years of diligent work - several of the major contributors were present with one notable exception - a Doctor William Chester Minor who had been an integral part of the compilation - Murray had asked him time and time again to find definitions for words that he himself had had trouble with, and without fail the doctor had come through on top of being one of the most prolific contributors Murray had had all those long years.
He thought it curious the good doctor would miss the occasion so he decided to pay him a visit. Looking at the return address - Murray had known that the doctor had an association with Broadmoor asylum, and so he went for a visit.

There he found that the doctor was not on the staff of the asylum as he had thought - but was an inmate, and that is why he was unable to attend the banquet.

Dr. William Chester Minor had been born in Ceylon, in 1834 to missionaries from the United States. He had shown some problems early in life starting with an excessive interest in the opposite sex - this greatly disturbed his parents when he showed such interest in Indian girls so they sent hm to live with his brother in the states at about age 13.
Eventually he entered Yale and graduated as a surgeon. He enlisted in the Union Army in1863 and spent quite a lot of time tending to the wounded, however combat in the field became too much for him, and to top that off the experience of being ordered to brand a deserter on the face as punishment, helped to massively unstable his mind.
He was allowed to be discharged from the Army and keep his pension, and moved to England to convalesce near family.
He tried to put it all behind him with art and flute playing, but his troubles continued until one evening, he ran after a man whom he had either thought had broken into his apartment to steal things, or someone who was an Irishman bent on revenge for the branding incident..
The man started to run and Minor shot three times - missing his first shot, but wounding the man twice in the neck with the last two,. Hearing the shots the police ran to the site where Minor gave himself up realizing he was mistaken and shot the wrong person - this man was a brewery stoker named George Merrett, and he left behind a widow and two children.
Minor was found innocent by reason of insanity and placed in the asylum "Until her majesty's pleasure be known"
While in the asylum he had the use of two cells, a couple of menservants and a rather impressive library of books at his disposal - he even had frequent visitations from the widow of the man he shot to death - and she would bring him even more books and things. Spying the notice for the Oxford Dictionary project he began to mail hundreds of slips of definitions and even thousands by 1880.

Murray's visit went surprisingly well, and the two struck up a friendship, but Minor's mental health deteriorated and in 1902, in a fit of delusional guilt he sliced off his own penis in an effort to curb his sexual interests in women. Murray eventually arranged passage for Minor to go back to the states to be closer to his brother in Connecticut. where he steadily declined in health and died in 1920 from a respiratory infection.

Murray's health also was in decline but he worked on the dictionary until he could no longer do so, and died in 1915 of pleurisy.

Neither one saw the completion of the dictionary, but together I think they finished 6 volumes - which turned out to be about half of the final product.
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Best Lawyer EVER!

Clement Laird Vallandigham was born July 29, 1820 in New Lisbon, Ohio. Clement was discharged from Jefferson College in Canonsburg and never received his diploma due to an argument with the president of the college. Great start to more disagreements through out his life.

A good friend with opposing views on slavery Edwin M Stanton, future Secretary of War under Lincoln, loaned him $500 to begin a course in the study of law.
Shortly after beginning his practice he served in the Ohio State legislature as a Democrat he also became editor of the Dayton Empire along the years of 1845-1849.
In 1856 he ran for Congress but was narrowly defeated, but he protested because of some illegal votes that had been discovered - there was a delay due to division in the Democratic party over slavery decisions made over new state territories, but he finally took a seat in Congress. He was barely reelected twice again, and backed Douglas in the Lincoln-Douglas presidential campaign.

He firmly believed in states rights, and professed a belief that each state had the right to secede and that the US government had no constitutional right to force them back into the union.
He voted against each and every action against the confederate states and made his protestations known to Lincoln about his Emancipation Proclamation. On May 5th 1863 Vallaudigham was found in violation of General Order Number 38 by General Ambrose Burnside (after whom the word 'sideburns' was coined) that warned that the habit of stating sympathies for the enemy would not be tolerated - he was put on trial for his public speeches in which he referred to the president as "King Lincoln", and called the war unnecessary, cruel, and wicked for crushing out liberties and and replacing them with despotism - and not to preserve the Union.
On May 19th 1863 Lincoln ordered him deported to the Confederate states where he stated that he was a citizen of Ohio and not in the south of his own free will and surrendered himself as a prisoner of war.

He traveled from there to Bermuda and then up to Canada where he proclaimed himself a candidate for governor of Ohio - he won the democratic nomination in absentia, but lost the election - in his wake was a riled and divided Democratic party in Ohio. His next move was to form a northern confederacy by overthrowing the governments of Ohio and surrounding states, by releasing confederate prisoners in the north - this never materialized.
He snuck back into the US in June of 1863 to appear at a convention, but was met with a combination of cheers and jeers. Lincoln was informed of his return but simply ordered that he and his group be watched until such time he clearly stepped over the line again

His inclusion on further tickets for Secretary of War .further divided the democratic party.
Sometime around March of 1864 he became the leader of The Sons of Liberty - a group that was in support of states rights and liberties - and somewhat plotted actions akin to treason.
After a few more losses in political circles, he restarted his law practice - still voicing his opposition to African-American suffrage and all those types of questions.

In 1871 at the age of 50 in Lebanon, Ohio he took on a case defending Thomas McGehan against a murder charge stemming from a barroom brawl.
He had claimed in court that the victim had accidentally killed himself when he drew his own weapon, and in his hotel room with his fellow defense attorneys present, he attempted to show them how he would present the case in court by way of a demonstration.
Grabbing a pistol he believed to be unloaded he placed it in his coat pocket, bent down in a kneeling position, drew the gun as he explained, and promptly shot himself by accident.
The defendant was acquitted, but Vallandigham died from his wound just as the victim of the shooting had.

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Inventors, Scientists, and Dreamers


Where would we be without our inventors scientists and dreamers? I don't know, maybe still living in caves banging rocks together to try and start a fire? Some experiments bring brilliant advances, while others are complete failures of folly. It doesn't matter which really, there are some things that look good on paper, but just don't go as planned.

People killed by their own discoveries and inventions


I told you about Thomas Midgley - who was strangled by a complex pulley system used to help his aides move him around in bed. The invention worked, and no one is exactly sure if he committed suicide with it, or was merely a victim of his own reckless genius.
But to be sure, he was killed by his own invention.

I also bet that Madame Marie Curie comes to mind - famed Polish chemist and physicist, she was the first woman to win a Nobel Prize, the only woman to win in two fields, and the only person to win in two different fields. Unfortunately she did not patent any of her work and did not financially gain from her long hours of study and dedication. She died in 1934 of aplastic anemia ( where bone marrow stops replenishing itself) due to the many hours of exposure to the radioactive materials, which in her time was not protected against, because of the unknown danger that later spawned protective gear for those who work with such substances.

And it's possible that some history buffs will be familiar with the name Horace Lawson Hunley - Inventor of some of the first true man powered submarines, after two failures his third vessel was produced and named the H.L. Hunley - that has been in the news because it was only found several years ago since it went down after a successful mission to sink the USS Housitanic in the Civil War.
Hunley didn't go on that trip though, on a test run he decided to command the vessel, in spite of not having been assigned to do so, and the vessel sank killing all on board - the Hunley was recovered and all were given burial with military honors in 1863 - then they refit the submarine and went on the actual mission, where it was lost again - not to be found until the late 1970's - since then it has been recovered, the second crew has been laid to rest and the vessel is now at The Warren Lasch Conservation Center in North Charleston, South Carolina.

That also brings to mind Thomas Andrews the brilliant designer of the HMS Titanic - yes, he's the one who designed the hull that got ripped a new one when the ship hit the iceberg. He was right on board with the rest of them. Of course, laxed safety requirements also did their part in limiting the number of lifeboats available to the people on board as well. Cost cutting at its finest.

Oh, by the way, James Heselden doesn't count - he did not invent the Segway - that two wheeled personal people mover - he merely bought the company then drove one off a cliff. There was however a General Electric inventor who invented a new way to motorize bicycles in 1903 and then fell off his prototype and died.

There have been a slew of inventors in aviation who were killed by their own devices
Abu Nasr Isma'il ibn Hammad al-Jawhari died around 1008 after strapping two wooden wings and a rope to himself and jumping off a mosque.
Jean-François Pilâtre de Rozier crashed a type of hot air balloon that could fly long trips - he crashed near the Pas-de-Calais attempting an English Channel crossing in 1785.
Otto Lilienthal crashed a hang glider of his own design in 1896
And Franz Reichelt in 1912 had members of the press gathered and was filming sort of a newsreel type of footage on the day he was going to test a coat-parachute invention he was working on - he told the press he was going to test using a dummy, but suddenly jumped off the first deck of the Eiffel Tower to the pavement below - this short clip you can actually find online, but the film stops before he hits. The parachute did not even slow his decent.


Alexander Bogdanov - tried some transfusion experiments, apparently to recapture his youth, and died when he transfused blood from a student suffering from malaria and tuberculosis - but it may have been just the wrong blood type - something not fully understood in 1928.

Some scientists died from acute radiation poisoning within days of experimenting with what was later called "The Demon Core"
I don't pretend to know all the details but there was a core of about 14 pounds in a sub critical state - part of the experiment was to make an encasement for the core that needed precision to handle, and to make the core create the first steps of a fission reaction without causing it to go critical and set off lethal bursts. These were called neutron reflection experiments the idea was to reduce the mass while keeping the strength of the core.
Working alone Harry Daghlian, first tried to encase the core with tungsten carbide bricks by hand while listening to his instrumentation. One more brick was to be placed when he realized that that would make the core go too far - he accidentally dropped the brick, causing it to near super-critical - he found that he had to manually disassemble the brick pile to stop the reaction, and with the resulting does of radiation he died 25 days later.

Nine months later working on the same core, while using beryllium spheres for the casing, Louis Slotin used a screwdriver to keep the separation where it needed to be while he used his other hand to lower the upper sphere. He had performed this a dozen times sort of like a magician to the display of observers - this time he had 7 observes as the screwdriver slipped and he dropped the sphere onto the core, causing a super-critical reaction yet again with the Demon Core. He quickly knocked the top sphere to the floor, but the damage was done. Some of the observers were shielded by his body, but within 20 years some of them had died partially from the event. Slotin died 9 days after the event - and hands on experimentation was suspended in favor of remote manipulations. The Demon Core was used the first post WW2 test of a bomb.
There's a famous rumor that Dr. Joseph-Ignace Guillotin was executed by the device that now bears his name. He did not invent it, it was his suggestion as a form of punishment, but it was invented by Antoine Louis. Nor did he die by the invention - he died of natural causes.

Li Si has a different tale to tell - Prime minister of the Qin dynasty of China up until 208BC invented the punishment called The Five Pains. This capital punishment called for the condemned to have their nose cut off, followed by a hand, and then a foot. Next was castration, and finally the condemned was sliced in half. Yes, this was how he died in 208BC.

I want to include the story of inventor Perillos of Athens 550BC because his invention was used on him first, but he was actually thrown off a hill afterward.
He was requested to build a Brazen Bull that Phalaris of Sicily, an exceptionally cruel ruler fond of torture, had asked him to make.
This was a hollow statue of a bull that had tubes inside to carry sounds to the outside that sounded melodious and bull-like. Unfortunately for the victim inside, the reason for all the noise was their screaming because the bull was set over a fire and the person inside roasted. I think the ruler had intended this for party entertainment, but he ordered it tested by the inventor, he was certainly roasted and sound did come out of the mouth of the bull, and the smell was of incense to mask the burning flesh. They took him out before he died and tossed him off that hill. In any case, wonderfully entertaining. If you're into that sort of thing.

Speaking of entertainment, Karel Soucek designed a barrel to go over Niagara Falls and in 1984 he was successful but bloody after doing so.
He then convinced backers to let him try another stunt a 180 foot fall into a tank of water - from the top of the Huston Astrodome. The barrel started spinning shortly after release and hit the rim of the water tank, splintering into several pieces. He was still alive when the pulled him out of the wreck and the stunt show continued, and he had been warned by no less than Evil Kinevel not to do the stunt - he died the next day January 20, 1985.

So hats off to the inventors and dreamers, the discoverers of tomorrow.
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Exeter, Rhode Island 1892
The same year that Lizzie Borden was having a little problem with an axe in Fall River, Massachusetts by the way - George Brown had a problem.

The farmer's wife Mary had died prior to 1888, just wasted away, weak and gaunt by the time death overcame her. In 1888 (also the year of Jack the Ripper in London's White Chapel district, FYI) their daughter Mary Olive also succumbed to the same maladies. Two years later in 1890 their son Edwin started showing signs of the same thing.
In 1891 the other daughter Mercy (age 19) became ill as well, however it took her quickly and by 1892 she was dead and buried.

It was then that several family members and a few other townspeople gathered to discuss the problem. They convinced George that he needed to exhume his family members, because one of them might be responsible for Edwin's sickness, so he'd better do it in order to have a chance to save his son.

Off to the cemetery they went on March 17, 1892 and with the help of several villagers, they dug up the caskets of the two Marys. Whom they found to be very decayed after the several years since they had been interred.
Next they opened the vault holding the recently deceased Mercy (Dead for the past two months).
Despite being emaciated when she was interred, they found she was rather healthy looking and fuller looking than she had been. They decided she must be the cause of Edwin's condition, somehow she must have gotten out of the mausoleum to visit Edwin in the night to drink his blood and cause disease.
The answer was to have her heart cut out and burned to ashes - when they did so they found her heart had, had blood in it - further proof! (no embalming in those days)
The ashes were mixed with water and given to Edwin in an attempt to restore his health.

Unfortunately, Edwin passed two months later, but he was the last of the family to die in such a manner.

This was the last known and most well documented case of the belief that vampires were loose in New England. Over the past two centuries, this had been the belief of many people, especially those that immigrated from eastern Europe.
The disease was actually tuberculosis, known as consumption in those days. It was also thought to be more of a disease of the spirit than that of the body at the time.
While it was more rare in the 19th century, the 18th century had more than its share of cases of vampirism in New England - primarily in Rhode Island and eastern Connecticut, but incidents happened all over - even in my state of Vermont.

The real reason Mercy looked as good as she did, was quite simply that it was winter, and in the above ground mausoleum it was like putting the body in a freezer. they didn't bury people in winter because of the frozen ground (hard enough to dig them back up at that time of year).
Mercy had been pretty well preserved, but after a corpse begins to break down, it bloats. Thereby seeming to the observers that she had recently fed.
In other cases, observers had noticed fingernails had curled and grown, hair had also grown - actually the skin breaks down after death and recedes as it starts to dry out, thus making it seem like nails and hair had grown when actually the skin had shrunk.

Quite a few times the standard "cure" for vampires in the family had been to burn the heart to ashes and consume it in some sort of liquid, not always, but usually water.
Sometimes the head and lower legs were also cut off and tossed back in the coffin so the undead could not see where they were going and could not walk at night. In some cases the entire corpse was reduced to ashes.

One thing about The Last Vampire in New England gets me. The hysteria.
If Mercy was the vampire, how did she not become infected until a year after Edwin? And how could she be responsible for the deaths of Mary and Mary Olive by 1888?

Next time I post a story I will probably be exploring the problem of Witches! Other than that, I hope the judge in the Jodie Arias case has recovered because that is set to start up again maybe not Monday (President's Day), but surely by Tuesday. Stay tuned.
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As I had suspected, no court on President's Day. So as promised....

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.


Macbeth, by William Shakespeare circa 1608

The Malleus Maleficarum (Witches Hammer) 1486 by Heinrich Kramer,
(a witch hunter's guide - more on that in a later post)

The belief in witches has been around for a long, long time, magic has always been intriguing to mankind probably since the beginning. The words , witch and witchcraft, have their origins seeded probably sometime before the year 900.
Why the belief in witches? If you did not believe in such things as the Devil and witches and spirits - then conversely, you did not believe in God. And devoutly religious people would have none of that - you would be branded a Heretic.

When I say witches, most of you probably think of Salem, Massachusetts first, and it is that set of circumstances that I will be writing about now.
Salem is not the first outbreak of accusations in America, but it is the most famous as countless plays and movies have dramatized the basics of the story. However, the truth is somewhat different from most of those accounts.
The trials actually took place in various townships and not just Salem Village (now Danvers), but also included Ipswich, Andover, and Salem Town as well. But even those places were not the very beginning - the first instance which probably influenced events in Salem was the accusations leveled against Ann Glover (also known as Goody Glover). She was the last person hanged in Boston due to witchcraft accusations by the Goodwin children in 1688.
By the next year, Cotton Mather a Puritan minister and prolific publisher, had written a book entitled Memorable Providences, Relating to Witchcrafts and Possession
In the times there was quite a bit of religious disagreement between Protestants, Calvinists, and Puritans. They did not like the trappings of other religions =,and resisted vestments, crosses, and any of the other trappings that smacked of "popery".
Children's toys and dolls were not allowed because they were a waste of time, singing was not allowed unless you were signing unaccompanied approved hymns. Popular songs which glorified love and nature were against god, children were only taught religious lessons, and the adults were expected to attend 3 hour sermons every Wednesday and Sunday - all life revolved around the church meetinghouse.
The town had gone through two or three ministers amid all the bickering and disagreement of property lines, grazing rights, and other dealings between the town and village of Salem.
Enter Reverend Samuel Parris from Boston, their first ordained minister. Being from Boston, he no doubt had a copy of Mather's Memorable Provinces with him. The town council gave him a sweetheart deal in order to keep him.
Parris was hired for ₤66 annually - one third in money, and two thirds in provisions. Provisions not only included food but also a steady firewood supply - imperative for surviving the cold winters, and the use of the parsonage.
Later, on October 10, 1689, they voted to give him the deed to the parsonage and an two acres of land to sweeten the deal. Unfortunately, this caused many to argue even more because they said that the parsonage could not be deeded to a person or persons, because it was unlawful to deed property of the Ministry by vote or any other means. And the offer was rescinded.
Parris was not a negotiator and pretty much caused more aggravation by using inquisitor-like activity to make parishioners in good standing to pay penance for the smallest of infractions. He would stick around and make himself useful to the God fearing population.
In the winter of 1692 Betty Parris (age 9), and her cousin Abigail Williams (age 11) - the daughter and niece of Samuel Parris and living under his roof, began to exhibit fits "beyond epileptic fits, or natural disease" said a minister from nearby Beverly.
The girls screamed, threw things about the room, uttered strange sounds, crawled under furniture, and contorted themselves into peculiar positions.

How curious that this would mirror events from Boston in Cotton Mather's book, of which Reverend Parris owned a copy, and even more curious that those afflicted also lived in the reverend's care.... Hmmmm.

They also claimed to being pricked with many pins, but a doctor could find nothing physically wrong with the two children. Shortly thereafter, more girls from the village exhibited fits in the middle of sermons by former reverend of the town Deodat Lawson in the meeting house. I am assuming that Lawson was preaching due to the conflict with Parris, who was not being paid at the time. The townspeople were trying to get the Parris family to leave, but they resisted.

The first three arrested were Sarah Good, Sarah Osborne and Tituba..
Sarah Good was not so good it seems, she was called filthy, was mostly a loner in town, and had curiously been around near the time some livestock was found dead.
Sarah Osborne was somewhat of a meddler she tried to control her son's inheritance from a previous marriage, in her new marriage she was with an indentured servant which also seemed distasteful to others, she rarely attended church as well - in fact she had been sick and hadn't attended in three years. Add this to the fact that one of the new accusers was 12 year old Anna Putnam - there had been a long standing feud between the Putnams and Porter families. Osbourne's first husband had been related to the Porters by marriage.
Tituba was a slave belonging to Reverend Parris - her origins are hard to establish but she certainly did not come from where everyone else did - and it was easy to accuse her of dabbling in black magic. It was thought that she had used information in the Malleous Maleficarum (which was apparently a book specially ordered by Parris) to scare the girls.

Wild tales of nightly meetings with strange creatures conjured in the night were gotten out of Tituba, as well as more accusations of other townspeople. It's quite possible she was directed to say these things by her master Reverend Parris.
Sarah Good denied the charges against her (including a claim someone saw her fly across the sky). She was declared guilty and hanged.
Sarah Osbourne who also plead innocent, died in confinement and judgment had not yet been passed.
Tituba , who had confessed was imprisoned for a time and later released - no record of her after that exists, but she was not executed.

Martha Corey, Dorothy Good and Rebecca Nurse in Salem Village, and Rachel Clinton in nearby Ipswich. were accused next.
Martha Cory being accused surprised many because she was thought to be very pious. But she disbelieved the veracity first accusations and voiced her opinion - and thus, became a target for the girls. Cory was found guilty and also hanged.
Dorothy Good was only 4 and a half when she underwent interrogation and gave up her mother under pressure - Dorothy was imprisoned for a while but released, and temporarily had a mental breakdown from which she did eventually recover.
Rebecca Nurse (age 77) was involved in land disputes with the Putnam family. When she went to trial she proclaimed herself to be "as innocent as the child unborn" she was found guilty and hanged.
Rachel Clinton had been convicted of an extra marital affair, and deemed to be "unclean and suspicious of other evil acts". After release she was forced to beg for money to support herself and what followed were the accusations (one of which was the ability to shape shift into such creatures as a dog and a turtle) - she died destitute in 1695.

In all about 24 people were executed or died in prison. One, Giles Corey, was pressed to death because he refused to enter a plea of guilty or innocent. That meant that he was taken to a field, laid down with a board placed upon him, and heavy rocks were piled on one by one to try to gain a plea - the only plea Corey made was "More weight!"

The last trial was held in 1693, but public debate about what had happened and how proceedings had been carried out continued until 1695 when compensation and restitution were talked about. Petitions were filed by 1700 to 1709. and at first only those named in the petitions were addressed. By 1711 money was authorized to be divided between 22 petitioners families, 578 pounds 12 shillings. Eight others were not compensated because they were not named on the petition. It wasn't until 1718 that all legal entanglements had been taken care of.

There is another theory that has been around for years - it involved rye bread that had developed mold called claviceps purpurea from which LSD is derived, but I don't think it could cause that much hysteria for so long.
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Arizona v Jodi Arias

Well, new testimony started at 12:30 eastern - and they were going over even more text messages.
These messages were more argumentative - and they sounded like two 16 year olds more than anything.
He finally told her off but couldn't keep from calling and sending texts.
She kept on doing things that would upset him, sounds like she was good at pushing buttons.
Still, she wanted to help him with his "Pedophile problem" so she says.
Back and forth back and forth - boring.
And of course this is all from her and the messages are not all there

Then they broke for lunch and finally at about 3 or 4 pm eastern, they talked about the theft at her grandparents house where the gun was "stolen". She said she was out of cell phone range at a Buddhist monastery or something and didn't get the call until they started to leave. One of the researchers for In Session called that place, and they told them they do get cell phone reception there - so Hmmmm Lie?

She claimed not to know that her grandparents had a pistol until later that day and did not steal it.
Then her trip came up - she said she got online to price line or some site and got the best deal to save money and that's why she rented a car from a place 90 miles away.
Her plans were to visit people in southern California, and head to Salt Lake City.
She got down to visit her ex live in boyfriend and his son, then borrowed those gas cans so she could buy gas from out of state since it is pretty expensive in California - yet, the receipts say she bought the gas IN California - umm lie 2
Travis apparently called her (so she says, but there's no recordings to prove it) and talked her into visiting him.
She arrived at 4am and found him watching music videos in his office. He gave her a warm hug and kiss so she says, and they went to sleep in his bed and woke up after noon the next day and had sex. Then she says he talked her into taking those naked pictures, and every step of the way she complied and did not voice opposition "to keep the visit pleasant and not make him mad".
Well, he got mad when she returned some picture CDs that were scratched and didn't work - he then apparently had angry sex with her to calm down. And - so she says_ she suggested she could take the beefcake pictures he wanted since he's been working out and looked pretty good.
And that is when court ended.

If you hear what was going on from other people, they certainly have a different view of what was going on - so this is the workd according to Arias.
She told the events of the day with a flat voice no emotion to speak of - and she did not make eye contact with the jury as she had done for all the other 6 days on the stand.

EDIT - She's showing a few memory lapses after 6 days of presenting facts, figures, and dates
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Today features more brain farts!
She drops his camera, he apparently runs after her, she runs through his closet, gets the gun he 'supposedly' stored there - and shoots, he keeps coming, tackles her, she gets away and the next thing she remembers is dropping the knife next to his dead body.

pull the other one now
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That was pretty incredible. She has an amazing memory when it comes to all these other details and excuses for evidence, but the actual crime she can't remember a significant portion of.

"Oh I don't know what happened your honor, it was a crazy day! He was an *******, and I was flowing heavy..... so I shot him.... 10, 11, 12 times, I don't know. It was a crazy day" - paraphrased, but relevant, and from some Gallagher stand-up special.
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Exactly.

Doctor Drew said PTSD can happen like that but I don't think it's probable in this case.
I did hear of a case where someone had a bad sleepwalking problem, and actually got in the car and drove to his in-law's house and murdered both of them - but I don't believe Arias.

All day she didn't seem to complain or mind doing what they were doing - in those pictures she didn't look unhappy either.
Travis used to go to the shooting range with friends and always borrowed guns from them. There is a film of them and Alexander is shooting one of those assault rifles. He had a friend who was an NRA instructor - why would he by a little .25 for protection?
It's pretty much a deterrent type of weapon - hold it aimed at someone and they usually won't want to get shot - even by a .25.
It is from what I read, more appropriate for shooting little varmints.

Anyway, instead of running down the hall and out the door (she says Travis caught her trying to run out of there a year earlier) she turns left into the closet and makes a B-line for the gun?
Oh, and "the gun went off, I didn't even think I had my finger on the trigger, and I thought the bullet hit the wall, I didn't mean to shoot him"
Yeah.

So after she shot him in the face the bullet went in above the eye and lodged in the opposite cheek - he yells "****ing ***** I'll kill you" Unlikely.

She "doesn't remember" the knife attacks - stabbing him 9 times in the back and 20 times in the chest - or slitting his throat so deeply his head was half way off.
She remembers dropping the knife next to his dead body in the bathroom and letting out a scream. She "doesn't remember dragging his body into the shower, or putting two loads of laundry in the wash - including the camera. She doesn't remember trynig to clean up the crime scene. She remembers putting the knife in the dishwasher.

Next thing she remembers is driving down the road, getting rid of the gun in the desert, and stopping to clean up - ok if she didn't clean up until after leaving, why is there not a blood trail in other parts of the house?
Oh yeah, her shoes were missing too I guess.

Next thing she does is try to act like it didn't happen, she didn't want anyone to know what she did. She said she felt she couldn't tell anyone because she was trying to "Save Travis' reputation" - during her testimony though she had a pity party about her own life being over.
Doesn't sound like she thought it was a justified killing then huh?

She waited until she was contacted with the news, and then called the police to "offer her help" and lied over and over to them from the start. She was also fishing for information to see what they had found.
She went to his memorial to make an appearance to make everything seem normal, and threw in that she felt Travis' presence, and that "he was in a better place and forgave her" - how insulting to his family huh?

She kept on saying she wanted to die, and had made plans for suicide before she was arrested, and tried to slit her wrists in jail - yeah, didn't try hard enough.
Her testimony ended strangely with all the lies she told after being arrested - weak ending.

So today I guess it will be the prosecution's turn to cross examine and poke holes in her story.
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OK yesterday was a sparring match of sorts after Arias got more comfortable.

The prosecutor tried to catch her off guard with rapid fire yes or no questions. It's hard for Arias to answer with just a yes or now - she tried to toss in a lot of maybe's in there, so as not to commit to an answer.
I think she blew it when she told the prosecutor that her blanked out memory mostly "happens when men like you are yelling and interrogating me, like Travis" - something to that effect.
Another question asked her to identify the elements that triggered memory loss - she answered something like "Decibel level, tone, and subject"
How convenient - her memory turns to spaghetti when the wrong subject comes up?
i.e. things I don't want to tell you.

He went through her journal entries (continuing that Monday too) Looking for any reference to Travis pleasuring himself to pictures of young boys and all she wrote was something like - haven't written in a couple days, nothing significant happened. (she also neglected to write anything about her broken finger - but that was also at that time she said)
She had also said that after she left, she got a lot of calls from Travis which she ignored - but there were only a few text messages that evening - about trading cars.

She did mention the Tootsie Pop and Pop Rock experiment they had during sex - her journal says she liked it, contrary to her earlier testimony

There were several times where Arias looked at the jury like the prosecutor was asking weird questions, and she even smiled a few times while answering him, and trying to get in a few subtle zingers.
Completely inappropriate, but others have looked at that and said - that's more like the real Jodi.
When something bad is talked about she also fails to use a pronoun like "i" meaning she's not owning up to anything bad.
The prosecutor kind of jumped all over the place a bit - and needs to be focused. One instance was that Arias tried to pass a message written in the margins of two photo magazines. Basically saying - You contradicted what I've been saying to the lawyers come visit me so we can get it straight.
There was a hearing a couple days later so it appears she was trying to tamper with a witness' testimony. The cops confiscated the magazines after checking them, so it didn't work for her.
So the prosecutor shows this evidence, and then gets off on a tangent because the person who was supposed to get the message was an old boyfriend who cheated on her and she had driven an hour and a half to talk to the other woman and he went into that line of questioning instead of going strait to the documents he had posted.

No court today - Monday is when it resumes

In other court news - Drew Peterson was sentenced to 38 years for the death of his third wife Kathleen Savio - "I did not kill Kathleen!" Peterson lost his cool and yelled into a court microphone.
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Yeah, that was pretty intense. Half the time you wondered where Juan Martinez was going with his line of questioning, but eventually it all came together and lead up to something of importance. The magazines are pretty damning, and I think a lot of people's jaws dropped when she made the statement regarding her memory loss and the "men like you" comment.

She spent a lot of time avoiding directly answering questions and trying to beat around the bush and seemingly acting stupid when she gave some of her answers. I can't count how many times I wanted to jump through the tv and slap Arias. This may not be a direct quote or what he implied, but I think Martinez referred to her convenient memory loss and about how she couldn't remember the correct answer when it serves her case.

Monday will be interesting. When court was dismissed for the evening it seemed like Martinez was in the process of building up to another point. I wonder if the weekend will trip up the momentum that he had going. He started out yesterday pretty excited and it seemed like he was all over the place, and easily wound up. To me, it seemed that when he calmed down he was able to make better points and ask better questions. I have to give him credit, though, the sidebars every few minutes were distracting and he seemed to handle it well and not lose his pace.
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I've heard he has one speed, but yeah he had to slow the pace at some point.

Today the Arizona Supreme Court denied the defense application to stop the death penalty phase, saying that that will not be done in the middle of the trial, it is a matter for appeal.
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