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Old 01-10-2013, 01:43 PM   #4126
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Yeah I guess if your doing the best of what your given means trying to hard... Then yeah he so is...
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Dark Knights Rises has its problems but its not garbage. **** like Scary Movie is garbage. Cheaply made with little artistic merit.

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DiCaprio only makes Oscar Bait films. This is an industry award. They roll their eyes at that.
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DiCaprio only makes Oscar Bait films. This is an industry award. They roll their eyes at that.
Doesn't change the fact that he continually hits every role of his out of the park. He really should have an Oscar by now.
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-Shocked that both Ben Affleck and Kathryn Bigelow were passed over for Best Director. This more or less rules out any shot of Argo or Zero Dark Thirty winning Best Picture. I expected those films to be the front runners, along with Lincoln. Affleck was snubbed.

-Given the last point, the front runners have obviously changed. Lincoln is the obvious front runner, and I’d put Life of Pi and especially Silver Linings Playbook as the dark horses. I’m definitely on board with Silver Linings Playbook, one of the year’s best.

-Surprised that Beasts of the Southern Wild and Amour scored Best Director nominations.

-I’m annoyed Les Miserables scored a nomination for Best Picture, but I’m not surprised. Besides, no nomination for director Tom Hooper torpedoes any shot that film had at winning Best Picture.

-As much as I enjoyed Django Unchained, I’m not upset Tarantino didn’t get a director nomination; I wouldn’t have nominated him either. Picture and original screenplay are enough.

-DiCaprio not getting nominated is surprising given it was his first time playing a villain. Not a snub necessarily, just surprising.

-Jacki Weaver’s nomination is shocking to me.

-I liked Alan Arkin in Argo, but it isn’t an Oscar worthy turn.

-Moonrise Kingdom definitely deserved more, but I’m happy with a Original Screenplay nod.

-Robert De Niro’s first Oscar nomination in over twenty years. Well deserved.

-With five nominations, Skyfall is the most nominated Bond film ever.

-Speaking of Skyfall, Deakins’ cinematography was nominated.

-Paul Thomas Anderson was unfairly ignored. No nominations for Writing or Directing.

-On the plus side, The Master‘s principle actors were all nominated, which is very well deserved.

-Prometheus was snubbed for Production Design.

-First time a Peter Jackson adventure in Middle Earth was NOT nominated for Best Picture

-Great films not nominated for Best Picture: Chronicle, Looper, Moonrise Kingdom, Skyfall, The Master, Prometheus, The Avengers, and The Raid. Not that I expected these films to be nominated, but just thought I’d mention them.

-I have yet to see: Zero Dark Thirty, Amour, Beasts of the Southern Wild, and Life of Pi.

Overall, not a bad selection in spite of my problems. At this point I’m betting on Lincoln winning top honours, but of the front runners, I’m pulling for Silver Linings Playbook.
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Ah thanks, I blame Yahoo

I originally posted the limited categories from there - and noticed some of the mistakes, so I checked it versus the official Academy Awards site - and added the other categories - and that one escaped me
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I agree that Lincoln will probably take home a lot of the top prizes

BTW - Emma Stone and Seth McFarlane did a pretty nice job of lightening up the announcements (although his Hitler joke didn't get too many chuckles)
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McFarlane said, "I read Amour was co-produced by Austria and Germany. The last time Austria and Germany co-produced something, it was Hitler."

You can make a Hitler joke - but not one with serious dark overtones. (That's not really about Hitler himself or the Nazis - that's about two countries)
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And it isn't the worst one he's done
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Talk about surprises; the Directing category...WTF happened there? As disappointed as I am about Tarantino not getting in, Affleck getting snubbed is even more upsetting. Seriously.

I'm glad to see Flight get some love via screenplay, though.

And I'm also glad to see Bradley Cooper get a nomination. He deserved it.

But, it looks like this'll be Spielberg's year. Lincoln is the Academy's kind of film through and through.

I have to agree, this is Lincolns year. It is about a Historic American President with great acting, screenplay,etc...... I think that they will spread the love around in the sub categories. LINCOLN will win the Big one.

& with Pic & Dir for the past 2 years going to non- american movie. This is just the Oscar Bait type movie that they industry loves. However, un like Les Mis, this movie is not in your face over the top.
Don't know what to make on some of the Snubs. Ben I think that some in industry make think him too young. QT, Well there is a mess of sorts about the N word, so he got the nod for the Pic but, no director. Katherine B, War movie 3 years ago.
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I'm upset DREDD didn't win Best Picture Ever.
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No Bigelow? Maybe Lincoln will win.
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It's pretty much racked up for "Lincoln" I feel the positive agenda of Torture for Truth kind of hurt Bigelow's chances...
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Has a movie ever won Best Picture where the director wasn't even nominated?
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1999 Best Picture went to Shakespeare in Love and Best Director went to Steven Spielberg for Saving Private Ryan.

2001 Gladiator won Best Picture and Steven Soderbergh won Best Director for Traffic.

In 2003 Chicago won Best Picture and Roman Polansky won Best Director for The Pianist.

In 2006 Ang Lee won Best Director for Brokeback Mountain and Crash won Best Picture.

Grand Hotel and Driving Miss Daisy are the only Best Picture winners whose directors were not nominated in the Best Director category. It's a rarity for films to win Best Picture without a Best Director nomination.
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Has a movie ever won Best Picture where the director wasn't even nominated?
Wings (1927-28) director William A. Wellman was not nominated
Grand Hotel (1931-32) director Edmund Goulding was not nominated
Driving Miss Daisy (1989) director Bruce Beresford was not nominated
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How is Zero Dark Thirty nominated in Original Screenplay, isn't a large part of adapted from the book "No Easy Day?"

Also why are there nine nominations, aren't there supposed to be ten?
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Eh, it's more like 5-10.
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My final Oscar nominations predictions:

Best Picture
1. "Les Misérables"
2. "Lincoln"
3. "Argo"
4. "Zero Dark Thirty"
5. "Life of Pi"
6. "Silver Linings Playbook"
7. “Django Unchained”
8. “The Master”
9. "Beasts of the Southern Wild"
10. “Amour”

Outside looking In: Skyfall and The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

I don't know that there'll actually be ten nominations, but I'm just going to show ten ranked predictions. I might be out on a limb putting The Master in the top eight, but I remember regretting when I lost faith in Tree of Life and got burned, so I'm going to predict that it's stronger than the pundits think.
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Best Picture
Amour (Sony Pictures Classics)
Argo (Warner Bros.)
Beasts of the Southern Wild (Fox Searchlight)
Django Unchained (The Weinstein Company)
Les Misérables (Universal)
Life of Pi (20th Century Fox)
Lincoln (DreamWorks)
Silver Linings Playbook (The Weinstein Company)
Zero Dark Thirty (Sony)

My ranking was a bit shaky, but I still got 8/9 right. If I'd just swapped The Master for Amour I would have been perfect. I was right about The Master being stronger than some pundits thought it was, but their "classy" choice went in a different direction.

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1. Steven Spielberg
2. Kathryn Bigelow
3. Tom Hooper
4. Ang Lee
5. Ben Affleck

Outside Looking In: Quentin Tarentino and Michael Haneke
Actual nominees:
Michael Haneke - Amour
Benh Zeitlin - Beasts of the Southern Wild
Ang Lee - Life of Pi
Steven Spielberg - Lincoln
David O. Russell - Silver Linings Playbook

This category was a pretty shocking turn of events. I did have a hunch that Affleck was going to get the boot, and I was right that Argo had lost a lot of steam, but I wasn't sure who to put in his place so I went with the safe choice.

Bigelow not getting in though, was a complete shock and it seems to indicate that zD30 was generally weak with the Academy. I suspect that it also would have been left out of the BP race had it been a year with 5 nominees. Expect to read many think pieces accusing the Academy of sexism in the coming months.

Hooper being left off was also a surprise, but not as big of one. Don't go assuming that Les Miserable is out of the BP race because of it, the director's branch is generally more prickly about musicals than the Academy at large and they probably aren't thrilled about the notion of a British TV director getting two Oscars in three years.

Haneke getting in wasn't a huge shock, we've seen auteurs like Terrence Malick, Julian Schnable, and David Lynch getting into the director race without broader Academy support before, and as it turned out Amour had the broader support too.

Russell getting in was a complete surprise, but that movie was generally stronger than I thought it was. I thought that movie's trouble getting a broader audience in theaters spelled trouble but I guess Harvey Weinstein came to the rescue.

I have no explanation for Benh Zeitlin's nomination, I thought for sure that if the Academy was interested in that movie it would just be a Winter's Bone style tip of the hat.

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1. Daniel Day-Lewis "Lincoln"
2. Hugh Jackman “Les Misérables”
3. Denzel Washinton “Flight”
4. Joaquin Phoenix "The Master"
5. Bradley Cooper "Silver Linings Playbook"

On the outside looking in: John Hawkes "The Sessions" and Anthony Hopkins "Hitchcock"

A lot of pundits are predicting a Joaquin Phoenix snub, and they may be right, but the alternatives don't seem that much more certain to me.
Actual Nominees:
Bradley Cooper - Silver Linings Playbook
Daniel Day-Lewis - Lincoln
Hugh Jackman - Les Misérables
Joaquin Phoenix - The Master
Denzel Washington - Flight

5/5, my faith in The Master paid off.

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1. Jessica Chastain "Zero Dark Thirty"
2. Jennifer Lawrence "Silver Linings Playbook"
3. Naomi Watts "The Impossible"
4. Marion Cotillard "Rust and Bone"
5. Emmanuelle Riva "Amour"

On the Outside looking in: Quvenzhané Wallis "Beasts of the Southern Wild" and Keira Knightley Anna Karenina

I'm predicting a weaker than expected showing for Beasts in general and I don't think they're going to go for Quvenzhané. Of the French women I'm leaning towards Cotillard over Riva just because she's "in the club" so to speak.
Jessica Chastain - Zero Dark Thirty
Jennifer Lawrence - Silver Linings Playbook
Emmanuelle Riva - Amour
Quvenzhané Wallis - Beasts of the Southern Wild
Naomi Watts - The Impossible

4/5, not bad. I would have expected that actors had more respect for their craft than to nominate a six year old for being cute.

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Best Supporting Actor
1. Tommy Lee Jones "Lincoln"
2. Robert De Niro "Silver Linings Playbook"
3. Alan Arkin "Argo"
4. Christoph Waltz "Django Unchained"
5. Philip Seymour Hoffman "The Master"

On the Outside Looking In: Matthew McConaughey "Magic Mike" and Leonardo DiCaprio "Django Unchained"

This one's tricky because we can't be sure which Django actor will stand out or if the three of them will cancel each other out. I went with Waltz, but I wouldn't be too shocked if both he and DiCaprio were able to make the cut.
Actual Nominees:
Alan Arkin - Argo
Robert De Niro - Silver Linings Playbook
Philip Seymour Hoffman - The Master
Tommy Lee Jones - Lincoln
Christoph Waltz - Django Unchained

5/5. Proud to have picked the right guy from Django. Fun fact, every one of these nominees is a previous winner.

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Best Supporting Actress
1. Anne Hathaway “Les Misérables”
2. Sally Field “Lincoln”
3. Helen Hunt “The Sessions”
4. Maggie Smith “Best Exotic Marigold Hotel”
5. Judi Dench “Skyfall”

On the Outside Looking In: Nicole Kidman “The Paperboy” and Amy Adams “The Master”
Actual Nominees:
Amy Adams - The Master
Sally Field - Lincoln
Anne Hathaway - Les Misérables
Helen Hunt - The Sessions
Jacki Weaver - Silver Linings Playbook

3/5. Should have had more faith in The Master here and less faith in the Academy's obsession with old British people.

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Best Adapted Screenplay
1. Lincoln
2. Argo
3. Silver Linings Playbook
4. Life of Pi
5. The Deep Blue Sea

On the Outside Looking in: The Sessions and Beasts of the Southern Wild

Had a lot of trouble filling in that fifth slot, decided to go with a wild choice that no one is predicting.
Actual Nominees:
Argo, Written by Chris Terrio
Beasts of the Southern Wild, Written by Lucy Alibar & Benh Zeitlin
Life of Pi, Written by David Magee
Lincoln, Written by Tony Kushner
Silver Linings Playbook, Written by David O. Russell

4/5. Beasts doesn't strike me as a very writerly movie, but I probably should have just gone with it instead of a crazy wild card.

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Actual Nominees:
1. Zero Dark Thirty
2. Django Unchained
3. Amour
4. Moonrise Kingdom
5. Flight

On the Outside Looking in: The Master and Looper

I could well get burned on that Flight prediction, but I feel like writers will dig that it was an original story that was more or less written on spec.
Actual Nominees:
Amour, Written by Michael Haneke
Django Unchained, Written by Quentin Tarantino
Flight, Written by John Gatins
Moonrise Kingdom, Written by Wes Anderson and Roman Coppola
Zero Dark Thirty, Written by Mark Boal

5/5. I might be the only person in the world who got this one perfect. I was way out on a limb with Flight. Really though this is kind of a weak field, it's Tarentino's award to lose.


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Best Cinematography
1. Les Misérables
2. Skyfall
3. Life of Pi
4. Zero Dark Thirty
5. Lincoln

On the Outside Looking In: Django Unchained and Anna Karenina
Actual Nominees:
Seamus McGarvey - Anna Karenina
Robert Richardson - Django Unchained
Claudio Miranda - Life of Pi
Janusz Kaminski - Lincoln
Roger Deakins - Skyfall

3/5. This category is another clue that the Academy "just wasn't into" ZD30. Not sure what happened with Les Miserable.

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Best Costume Design
1. Anna Karenina
2. Les Misérables
3. Lincoln
4. Snow White and the Huntsman
5. Mirror Mirror

On the Outside Looking In: Django Unchained and Cloud Atlas
Actual Nominees:
Jacqueline Durran - Anna Karenina
Paco Delgado - Les Misérables
Joanna Johnston - Lincoln
Eiko Ishioka - Mirror Mirror
Colleen Atwood - Snow White and the Huntsman

5/5. I'm surprised too. I knew Mirror Mirror had a solid shot because Ishioka had died, but still.

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Best Editing
1. Zero Dark Thirty
2. Argo
3. Life of Pi
4. Les Misérables
5. Skyfall

On the Outside Looking In: Lincoln and Cloud Atlas
Actual Nominees:
William Goldenberg - Argo
Tim Squyres - Life of Pi
Michael Kahn - Lincoln
Jay Cassidy and Crispin Struthers - Silver Linings Playbook
Dylan Tichenor and William Goldenberg - Zero Dark Thirty

3/5. This one is a big clue that the Academy loved Silver Lining's Playbook a whole lot.

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Best Makeup and Hairstyling
1. The Hobbit
2. Men in Black 3
3. Looper

On the Outside Looking In: Lincoln and Hitchcock

This branch, more than any other (aside from maybe costume design), does not give a **** if the movie itself is "respectable."
Actual Nominees:
Hitchcock
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Les Misérables

1/3. I'm just happy I was able to predict the Lincoln snub. Campaigns always deemphasize makeup when they have a big lead actor in the mix, they want to make it seem like the actors just willed themselves into looking like the role.

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Best Score
1. Lincoln
2. Argo
3. Life of Pi
4. Anna Karenina
5. Beasts of the Southern Wild

On the Outside Looking In: Cloud Atlas and On the Road
Actual Nominees:
Dario Marianelli - Anna Karenina
Alexandre Desplat - Argo
Mychael Danna - Life of Pi
John Williams - Lincoln
Thomas Newman - Skyfall

4/5. Didn't see the Skyfall nod coming, but who did?

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Best Song
1. Brave
2. Skyfall
3. Django Unchained
4. Paul Williams Still Alive
5. Les Miserable

On the Outside Looking In: Life of Pi and Magic Mike

This category is always a crapshoot.
Actual Nominees:
"Before My Time" from Chasing Ice
"Everybody Needs A Best Friend" from Ted
"Pi's Lullaby" from Life of Pi
"Skyfall" from Skyfall
"Suddenly" from Les Misérables

2/5. Yep, always a crapshoot.

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Best Production Design
1. Les Miserable
2. Lincoln
3. Anna Karenina
4. Django Unchained
5. Skyfall

On the Outside Looking In: Argo and Prometheus
Actual Nominees:
Anna Karenina
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Les Misérables
Life of Pi
Lincoln

4/5. Kind of surprised Life of Pi made it. What did they design? The Lifeboat?

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Best Sound Editing
1. Skyfall
2. Zero Dark Thirty
3. The Avengers
4. The Dark Knight Rises
5. The Hobbit

On the Outside Looking In: Django Unchained and Life of Pi
Argo
Django Unchained
Life of Pi
Skyfall
Zero Dark Thirty

2/5. Expected them to use this award to nominate more blockbuster type stuff. They didn't even nominate The Hobbit.

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1. Skyfall
2. Les Miserable
3. The Hobbit
4. Zero Dark Thirty
5. The Avengers

On the Outside Looking In: The Dark Knight Rises and Life of Pi
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Les Misérables
Life of Pi
Lincoln
Skyfall

2/5. Same problem.

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Best Visual Effects
1. The Avengers
2. The Hobbit
3. Life of Pi
4. Snow White and the Huntsman
5. The Amazing Spider-Man

On the Outside Looking In: Prometheus and Skyfall
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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Life of Pi
Marvel's The Avengers
Prometheus
Snow White and the Huntsman

4/5. Not bad.

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Best Animated Feature
1. Wreck-it-Wralph
2. Brave
3. Frankenweenie
4. The Rabbi’s Cat
5. Paranorman

On the Outside Looking In: The Rise of the Guardians and Madagascar 3
Actual Nominees:
Brave (Disney•Pixar)
Frankenweenie (Walt Disney Pictures)
ParaNorman (Focus Features)
The Pirates! Band of Misfits (Sony)
Wreck-It Ralph (Walt Disney Pictures)
4/5. Missed the same one everyone did

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Best Documentary Feature
1. Searching For Sugar Man
2. Mea Maxima Culpa
3. The Invisible War
4. The Gatekeepers
5. How to Survive a Plague

On the Outside Looking In: Bully and Chasing Ice
Actual Nominees:
5 Broken Cameras (Kino Lorber)
The Gatekeepers (Sony Pictures Classics)
How to Survive a Plague (Sundance Selects)
The Invisible War (Docurama Films)
Searching for Sugar Man (Sony Pictures Classics)

4/5. Got kind of lucky with this one.

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Best Foreign Language Film
1. Amour
2. The Intouchables
3. Kon-Tiki
4. A Royal Affair
5. No

On the Outside Looking In: Beyond the Hills and War Witch
Actual Nominees:
Amour (Sony Pictures Classics), Austria
Kon-Tiki (The Weinstein Company), Norway
No (Sony Pictures Classics), Chile
A Royal Affair (Magnolia Pictures), Denmark
War Witch (Tribeca Film), Canada

4/5. Thrilled to see The Intouchables miss.
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I did.
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Yeah, but you predicted it to be nominated for pretty much everything.
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True.
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Best Production Design? Is that a new category?
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