Skyfall (50th Anniversary) - Review Thread

[Neverending]

Goldfinger works, as a movie, because of its charm and humor. It's apples and oranges when compared to Skyfall. Casino Royale, GoldenEye, and From Russia With Love would make better comparisons.

[FranklinTard]

so in 2012, we still have visual representations of 'hacking' in movies. i don't get it. come on people, i mean swordfish it was excusable, because it was what, 2001? but 2012? still bad guys are hiring coders for hacking and for creating a visual user interface for mi6 to try to figure it out?

and why did we go back to bond's parents place again? did i miss something? those shallow scenes with the big fish guy talking about his parents and when james was a young laddy... what the hell did that accomplish? they tried to flesh out bond's character when nobody gave a ****, talk about bardems character more, it would have made a much better movie.

i had such high expectations for this movie. i guess it was nice to see the db5 show up again, but i mean where is the bond car from 2012? the jaguar sedan? this was an alright action movie (what a terrible climax though, really, really, big let down when bardem got his comeuppance) but a pretty terrible bond movie. royale is better, and i'm not its biggest fan either.

6/10 if i'm generous.

[TracyD]

Like it...but wasn't on par with Casino Royale. Still trying to figure out why Bond led M to his old home...out in the open with no help at hand. It makes sense when you are trying to kill of a character 'M.' But there could have been a better way of doing it.
Not dissapointed in Daneil's performace...he did a sweet job. Choice of the way it ended wasn't his. He is a raw butt kicking Bond and I wouldn't want to be caught in the alley late at night up against him.

[JBond]

The idea was to make sure Silva didn't realize it was a trap. It had to look like they were going into hiding, not setting up a last stand.

[FranklinTard]

Another great part of the story telling, when bardems character says with just a few keystrokes he can force gas into a room and then somehow get it to explode? Again, this is 2012, if they want to make a realistic bond, make one, don't dress up a silly story with serious film making.

I'm aslo assuming he needed to 'get off the grid' so he went to his old house, seeing as the bad guy had ridiculous hacking skills, apparently if you have wifi he can blow up your house. Plus the whole m is the mother thing. I get it, but it could have been executed better.

[sshuttari]

if it's too serious and realistic then nobody will care to see it.... You can't take something like Bond and make it real.

It takes away the purpose of an action/adventure film.

[FranklinTard]

I completely agree, but skyfall didn't know what it wanted to be.

[sshuttari]

It tried to be Nolan's Batman with realism mixed in.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by FranklinTard

skyfall didn't know what it wanted to be.

It wanted to celebrate 50 years of Bond while also maintaining the tone of the other Daniel Craig films.

[FranklinTard]

I could maybe understand that, but it didn't work for me and I'm quite surprised by the universal praise honestly. I mean all in all, it was sillier than qos.

[Fanible]

You pulled a Doomsday and waited too long. Fail.

[Doomsday]

Hey guys, just watched Skyfall, review will be up soon.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by FranklinTard

it was sillier than qos.

QoS was never silly to begin with. Whether a movie is serious or not shouldn't be a reflection of its quality. Skyfall has the same tone as the other two Daniel Craig films but it's obviously intended to be more outlandish since it is the 50th anniversary of the franchise. They have to honor that aspect of the series.

[FranklinTard]

So because it has some winks and nods it deserves all this praise? It was a silly script with a serious film maker.

More I think about it the worse it gets... typical Hollywood villain, that's why we wanted more Silva was so shallow, and some really terrible writing.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by FranklinTard

because it has some winks and nods it deserves all this praise?

Well, no. It had a good story and entertaining action sequences. Your general complain seems to be that the movie is less grounded than the previous Daniel Craig installments. But that's fine. With a billion dollars at the box office, audiences are clearly ready to go back to the more fantastical Bond films. I just don't think the producers were quite ready yet to make that leap. They didn't want another Die Another Day.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by sshuttari

It tried to be Nolan's Batman with realism mixed in.

Not that it matters, but from what I've gleaned, Nolan prefers the term "relatable".

[Neverending]

Skyfall was clearly influenced by Nolan. Sam Mendes has admitted this. But aside from Silva's grand escape in London, it wasn't too noticeable. The Bond franchise has made bigger rip-offs before.

[JBond]

Ehhh, to be fair, there are a number of similarities to Batman in the movie. The villian has scars in his cheeks, they go to "Bond Manor" where Alfred lives, etc.

[sshuttari]

Does that make "M" Lucius Fox

[Ramplate]

PGA-nominated ‘Skyfall’ is the second most mistake-filled movie of 2012

Hey, no one expects a 007 mission to go completely perfectly, do they?

"Skyfall" is still going strong after almost two months in domestic release, having recently passed the $1 billion mark in worldwide box office. It's also finally getting some official accolades, as it's the surprise entry on today's list of Producers Guild of America movie nominations.

So it would appear that audiences, critics and awards organizations either haven't noticed -- or, just as likely, don't mind -- all of the film's continuity and factual errors.

MovieMistakes.com has released the list of 2012 releases with the most errors, with "Skyfall" coming in at #2 with 35 mistakes. Those spotted by hawk-eyed viewers range from the rather formidable:

- Just before Bond reaches the Chapel, he plunges into icy water. In the next scene, in the Chapel, he is perfectly dry.

- In the bar with Bond drinking and watching television he reaches over for a bottle which is 80% full. He pours a small amount into his glass and watches the TV. In the next shot the bottle is only about 20% full.

- When on the motorbike on the rooftops of Istanbul, Bond at first has no sunglasses on, then sunglasses on, then no sunglasses.

To the rather detail-oriented (Q himself would be proud):

- In the car scene just before the MI6 explosion, invalid IPv4 addresses (with digits larger than 255) are displayed on the laptop screen.

- James Bond is seen driving down Whitehall in London. Behind him a number 38 bus is seen. However the 38 does not travel down or indeed particularly near Whitehall.

While a total of 35 errors may seem high, it's not quite as impressive (or unimpressive, depending on how you look at it) as the whopping 63 mistakes that were in "Men in Black III," which came in at #1. Some of the blunders in the Barry Sonnenfeld-directed sci-fi comedy include:

- When the cops are frisking J, the small cop on the left's left hand keeps changing position in every shot, with no logic whatsoever.

- When K takes the prize out of the Crackers box, the size of the box magically becomes very tiny.

- When J is being swallowed by the fish, the floor around him swaps from very dirty, to slightly dirty, to spotless between frames.

Tied at #3 and #4 with 24 mistakes each is the one-two superhero punch of "The Dark Knight Rises" and "The Amazing Spider-Man," with "The Avengers" following close behind at #5 with 22 mistakes. While many criticized the occasional lack of logic in the plot of Christopher Nolan's final Batman film, there were good old-fashioned continuity errors as well, such as:

- The plane in the beginning has at least 4 rows of seats in the left and 5 rows in the right. In the final shot where Bane and the doctor "slip" out of the plane, the left has only 3 rows and the right one also seems to have no more than 3.

- When Bane is about to blow up the stadium, the stadium has players on the field. However, when Bane says "Let the games begin", all the players have disappeared. Then all the players reappear again in the next shot.

Meanwhile, Spider-Man's battles with the Lizard took a few "creative liberties":

- While fighting against Lizard in the lab, Peter's jacket changes randomly from spotless to covered in dust, to partially covered in dust, back and forth.

- When Lizard launches Peter through a wall into a classroom, books and huge chunks of concrete fly above Peter, but when he lands and slides backwards they're suddenly gone.

As well as a variation on what we like to refer to as the "Hulk Purple Pants Effect":

- When Connors becomes a humongous Lizard, his robe magically grows from a Medium size to an XXL.

Speaking of the Hulk, he seemed to avoid being a part of any mistakes in "The Avengers" ... though the same can't be said for his alter ego, Bruce Banner:

- When Bruce Banner meets Natasha Romanoff for the first time in Calcutta, there's a shot from behind her where Natasha is heard talking but her reflection in the small mirror behind Bruce isn't.

- Just after Dr. Banner asks Nick Fury how many spectrometers the Helicarrier has access to, he takes off his jacket, rolls it up, and puts it under his arm. In the next shot, the jacket is suddenly draped over his arm.

And this one's for all the Galaga fans:

- When one of the computer operators resumed playing Galaga, the sound effect heard is for an enemy ship attempting to capture the player's ship, but what's shown on screen is normal gameplay.

Anyway, looking at the films that make up the Top Five, one can conclude that it's apparently hard to keep track of everything in big budget action movies where things are exploding, vehicles are crashing into each other and the actors are, well, moving around and touching things a lot.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by JBond

they go to "Bond Manor" where Alfred lives, etc.

Nah. That was just done to tell Bond's backstory, which has never been done in a Bond movie before.

[Justin]

A mistake in a movie? No way.

[JBond]

- James Bond is seen driving down Whitehall in London. Behind him a number 38 bus is seen. However the 38 does not travel down or indeed particularly near Whitehall.

o_0

[sshuttari]

I feel like that article is going out of it's way to find problems... I can do that with any film

[FranklinTard]

it isn't the article... it was a site that does do it for every movie. and skyfall was number 2. impressive amount of mistakes in mib 3 though.