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**JBond** · 12-05-2012, 01:14 AM

I love 25th Hour, I'll give him that.

Dracula · 12-05-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JBond

Call me crazy, but Do the Right Thing is overrated.

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Originally Posted by Justin

Call me crazy, but Spike Lee is an overrated filmmaker.

You're both nuts.

I'll grant you that Spike Lee isn't the most consistent filmmaker by any means, but when he's on he's unstoppable and I don't think he's ever made a film which isn't at least interesting.

Do the Right Thing in particular is an unassailable masterpiece, what's your beef with it?

jonk · 12-05-2012, 07:22 AM

I enjoyed 25th hour and Inside Man. But Spike Lee hasn't done anything truely great for a long time. And he is about to ruin Oldboy...

Justin · 12-05-2012, 02:33 PM

25th Hour and Inside Man were both good. And yeah, his idea of remaking Oldboy is absurd. One of my favorite movies. I still can't believe--well, I can, but I didn't expect him to be doing it--it's being remade.

**JBond** · 12-05-2012, 04:58 PM

Inside Man was entertaining as well. I found Do the Right Thing tedious and filled with mixed messages.

Deexan · 12-06-2012, 11:21 AM

Call me crazy, but...

1. TDKR
2. Batman Begins
3. TDK

(All 9/10s.)

Neverending · 12-06-2012, 11:27 AM

Someone needs to show Deexan the pencil trick

Deexan · 12-06-2012, 11:36 AM

MovieBuff801 · 12-06-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Deexan

Call me crazy, but...

1. TDKR
2. Batman Begins
3. TDK

(All 9/10s.)

For me:

1. TDK
2. TDKR
3. Batman Begins

I'm pretty much on the same page with the ratings, though.

MasterChief117 · 12-06-2012, 04:51 PM

Moviebuff is pretty close with mine. After seeing TDKR again on Blu Ray (hopefully tonight) I'll probably decide.

**JBond** · 12-06-2012, 04:56 PM

Moviebuff's 3 movie list is pretty close to yours?

IanTheCool · 12-06-2012, 05:17 PM

There is a one out of 6 chance, Jbond. That's quite the odds.

PG Cooper · 12-06-2012, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deexan

Call me crazy, but...

1. TDKR
2. Batman Begins
3. TDK

(All 9/10s.)

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Deexan · 12-06-2012, 06:49 PM

Bite my shiny metal keister, Coopa!

**JBond** · 12-06-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IanTheCool

There is a one out of 6 chance, Jbond. That's quite the odds.

Ahhh, yes, a one in six chance of being EXACT, but he said "pretty close." If we were to suppose "pretty close" means one off, then the chances change to 3 in 6, or 50% chance.

1, 2, 3
1, 3, 2
2, 1, 3
2, 3, 1
3, 1, 2
3, 2, 1

And that's from a pure probability standpoint. It doesn't take into consideration that just about everyone finds The Dark Knight to be the favorite.

MovieBuff801 · 12-06-2012, 07:45 PM

Well, it looks like Masterchief HAS to post his list now.

Neverending · 12-06-2012, 11:17 PM

As we wait for MasterChief, I'll take this topic in a new direction.

AS MOVIES, I'd say

Dark Knight
Begins
Rises

But as BATMAN ADAPTATIONS, it's become quite clear to me that it's

Begins
Dark Knight
Rises

In other words, the more Batman movies Christopher Nolan made the less faithful to the comics they became. Batman Begins has many flaws. Doomsday and I have spent 7 years pointing them out. But it can't be denied it's a pretty good adaptation of contemporary Batman comic books. Despite all the "realism", Nolan throws in The Narrows and Arkham Asylum to give the movie a proper Batman look, style, and tone. There is A LOT of action scenes and superhero heroics. And most importantly, it has HEART.

The Dark Knight is an incredible film. It's easily the best in the trilogy. HOWEVER, it's basically a crime thriller with Batman characters in it. It reminds me of Batman Returns. People say that's a Tim Burton movie with Batman characters. Well... Dark Knight is a Chris Nolan movie with Batman characters. Dark Knight gets so lost in "realism" it forgets to be a superhero movie. That's something Begins didn't suffer from.

As for Rises, well, it pretty much spit on the mythology. And I wonder how many years it's gonna take for fanboys to wake up and realize that.

Dhamon22 · 12-07-2012, 12:35 PM

1. TDK
2. BB
3. TDKR

As for Easy A, I liked it but it is a bit overrated.

PG Cooper · 12-07-2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deexan

Bite my shiny metal keister, Coopa!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neverending

As we wait for MasterChief, I'll take this topic in a new direction.

AS MOVIES, I'd say

Dark Knight
Begins
Rises

But as BATMAN ADAPTATIONS, it's become quite clear to me that it's

Begins
Dark Knight
Rises

In other words, the more Batman movies Christopher Nolan made the less faithful to the comics they became. Batman Begins has many flaws. Doomsday and I have spent 7 years pointing them out. But it can't be denied it's a pretty good adaptation of contemporary Batman comic books. Despite all the "realism", Nolan throws in The Narrows and Arkham Asylum to give the movie a proper Batman look, style, and tone. There is A LOT of action scenes and superhero heroics. And most importantly, it has HEART.

The Dark Knight is an incredible film. It's easily the best in the trilogy. HOWEVER, it's basically a crime thriller with Batman characters in it. It reminds me of Batman Returns. People say that's a Tim Burton movie with Batman characters. Well... Dark Knight is a Chris Nolan movie with Batman characters. Dark Knight gets so lost in "realism" it forgets to be a superhero movie. That's something Begins didn't suffer from.

As for Rises, well, it pretty much spit on the mythology. And I wonder how many years it's gonna take for fanboys to wake up and realize that.

I will say that the ideologies presented in TDK are very true to the Batman world, but as far as tone goes, you're probably right about Begins.

Neverending · 12-08-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PG Cooper

I will say that the ideologies presented in TDK are very true to the Batman world

True.

Dracula · 12-08-2012, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neverending

As for Rises, well, it pretty much spit on the mythology. And I wonder how many years it's gonna take for fanboys to wake up and realize that.

Probably the same number of years it will take for Bond fans to realize that Daniel Craig's films do the same to that franchise.

**JBond** · 12-08-2012, 03:52 PM

Growing up, the Brosnan films were the bee's knees. Everyone thought so. Now people say they're silly 90s action films and the serious ones are better. Every iteration of the Bond series will start high then go back down after it's replaced. Except for Connery.

Neverending · 12-08-2012, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond

Growing up, the Brosnan films were the bee's knees. Everyone thought so. Now people say they're silly 90s action films and the serious ones are better. Every iteration of the Bond series will start high then go back down after it's replaced. Except for Connery.

That's 99.9% true. And the reason I say that is because George Lazenby and Timothy Dalton were not popular with the mainstream. That's why you gotta give Daniel Craig SOME credit. When he was cast, everybody thought it was a terrible choice. Remember that CraigNotBond website? People expected him to be the next Lazenby and Dalton. Instead, he became 2nd-to-Connery if movie attendance are any indication.

Craig still has a couple of Bond movies left on his contract. If he ever manages to make a traditional Bond film, I think people will be okay with the different ones. I may have my issues with Dark Knight Rises, but I still appreciate what Nolan & Bale did with the previous two movies. Their legacy isn't harmed as far as I'm concerned. But.....

As you pointed out, fanboys are just crazy that way. Burton/Keaton, like Brosnan, was the "bee's knee" in the `90s and look how those films are treated now. Raimi/Maguire were the "bee's knee" in the `00s and look how those movies are treated now.

**JBond** · 12-08-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Neverending

That's why you gotta give Daniel Craig SOME credit. When he was cast, everybody thought it was a terrible choice. Remember that CraigNotBond website?

I remember "James Blond."

MasterChief117 · 12-11-2012, 12:02 PM

After seeing The Dark Knight Rises again, in the comfort of my home in glorious Blu-ray, I remain undecided in my decision. There is no doubt that The Dark Knight is the better choice (character balance, story logic, less plot holes, consistent). Batman Begins has more character balance but the themes in TDKR are more pronounced (regardless of how rampant they are). Eh. I can't decide.

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JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,498	Inside Man was entertaining as well. I found Do the Right Thing tedious and filled with mixed messages. __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

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Justin Executive Producer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 11,896	25th Hour and Inside Man were both good. And yeah, his idea of remaking Oldboy is absurd. One of my favorite movies. I still can't believe--well, I can, but I didn't expect him to be doing it--it's being remade.

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MasterChief117 I believe in you Jim Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gotham City Posts: 13,344	Moviebuff is pretty close with mine. After seeing TDKR again on Blu Ray (hopefully tonight) I'll probably decide. __________________ "I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." "There's greatness in you. But there's not an ounce of humility. You think that you can't make mistakes, but there's gonna come a moment when you realize you're wrong about that. And you're gonna get yourself and everyone under your command killed."

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JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,498	Moviebuff's 3 movie list is pretty close to yours? __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

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IanTheCool Executive Lego Producer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 13,395	There is a one out of 6 chance, Jbond. That's quite the odds.

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Deexan Integral Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,327	Bite my shiny metal keister, Coopa! __________________ What's the law but a leash? SoundCloud Twitter

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12-06-2012, 11:17 PM	#1992
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,115	As we wait for MasterChief, I'll take this topic in a new direction. AS MOVIES, I'd say Dark Knight Begins Rises But as BATMAN ADAPTATIONS, it's become quite clear to me that it's Begins Dark Knight Rises In other words, the more Batman movies Christopher Nolan made the less faithful to the comics they became. Batman Begins has many flaws. Doomsday and I have spent 7 years pointing them out. But it can't be denied it's a pretty good adaptation of contemporary Batman comic books. Despite all the "realism", Nolan throws in The Narrows and Arkham Asylum to give the movie a proper Batman look, style, and tone. There is A LOT of action scenes and superhero heroics. And most importantly, it has HEART. The Dark Knight is an incredible film. It's easily the best in the trilogy. HOWEVER, it's basically a crime thriller with Batman characters in it. It reminds me of Batman Returns. People say that's a Tim Burton movie with Batman characters. Well... Dark Knight is a Chris Nolan movie with Batman characters. Dark Knight gets so lost in "realism" it forgets to be a superhero movie. That's something Begins didn't suffer from. As for Rises, well, it pretty much spit on the mythology. And I wonder how many years it's gonna take for fanboys to wake up and realize that. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

12-07-2012, 12:35 PM	#1993
Dhamon22 High Flying Bird Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkville, MD Posts: 7,024	1. TDK 2. BB 3. TDKR As for Easy A, I liked it but it is a bit overrated. __________________ @theoriolereport The Redbox Report Podcast - http://theredboxreport.podbean.com @theredboxreport

12-08-2012, 03:52 PM	#1997
JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,498	Growing up, the Brosnan films were the bee's knees. Everyone thought so. Now people say they're silly 90s action films and the serious ones are better. Every iteration of the Bond series will start high then go back down after it's replaced. Except for Connery. __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

12-11-2012, 12:02 PM	#2000
MasterChief117 I believe in you Jim Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gotham City Posts: 13,344	After seeing The Dark Knight Rises again, in the comfort of my home in glorious Blu-ray, I remain undecided in my decision. There is no doubt that The Dark Knight is the better choice (character balance, story logic, less plot holes, consistent). Batman Begins has more character balance but the themes in TDKR are more pronounced (regardless of how rampant they are). Eh. I can't decide. __________________ "I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." "There's greatness in you. But there's not an ounce of humility. You think that you can't make mistakes, but there's gonna come a moment when you realize you're wrong about that. And you're gonna get yourself and everyone under your command killed."