The Dark Knight Rises - Page 55

**JBond** · 12-05-2012, 05:13 PM

I was thinking Kevin Kline.

Tornado · 12-05-2012, 05:59 PM

I watched TDKR again last night. I would say I enjoyed it more than my previous two viewings. I don't know that I'd necessarily put it above either of Nolan's other Batfilms, but that's saying more about the quality of the other two than it is about TDKR. I might put it above Batman Begins, maybe. I did come away still having the one major complaint I did after the previous screenings though. Call it a drama, a crime drama, a character piece, etc, whatever, it's still a Batman movie. And for a Batman movie it has a surprising lack of Batman.

Movie mogul · 12-06-2012, 03:16 AM

My problem is that it failed as a continuation of what Nolan started and even worse failed as a Batman movie. Apocalyptic opera featuring the character Batman is how I see it. I even think catwoman does more ass kicking than our hero - he only gets his ass kicked or runs away in that horrid spaceship (That's about as memorable as his appearences get). Even Alfred goes awol! Come on...lets be honest with ourselves, it may entertain you as a film but ultimately this is stand alone feature that doesn't deliver Batman in all his glory. I would have settled for a smaller movie. I want TDK to be the last part for me, however the cliffhanger ending doesn't let me feel that way about it...therefore TDKR is the Return of the Jedi, Bane is the Emperor, the rest of the characters are the ewoks. The fire doesn't even rise god damn it!

Mikey-Bizzle · 12-06-2012, 04:00 AM

Watched it again the other night and loved it even more 2nd time around. I don't get what you miserable haters are on about it's just as good if not better than Batman Begins imo

Neverending · 12-06-2012, 04:10 AM

Batman Begins is a MILLION times better than this movie. Heck, Batman FOREVER is better than this movie.

Movie mogul · 12-06-2012, 05:08 AM

Come on now Neverending, Lets not get carried away...Forever was as good as TDKR, not better.

I'm not trying to hate Mikey, I just can't get passed the fact that I was dissapointed and it hurts...I cry myself to sleep every night. Deep down Nolan knows...he knows...

MasterChief117 · 12-06-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Neverending

Batman Begins is a MILLION times better than this movie. Heck, Batman FOREVER is better than this movie.

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Originally Posted by Movie mogul

Come on now Neverending, Lets not get carried away...Forever was as good as TDKR, not better.

I'm not trying to hate Mikey, I just can't get passed the fact that I was dissapointed and it hurts...I cry myself to sleep every night. Deep down Nolan knows...he knows...

Neverending doesn't like Nolan's interpretation of the Batman mythology and constantly mocks it and those who celebrate it. No critical thinking individual with a brain would say that Batman Forever stands on the same level as The Dark Knight Rises. Acting. Thematically. Scope. Story. All better.

PG Cooper · 12-06-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterChief117

Neverending doesn't like Nolan's interpretation of the Batman mythology and constantly mocks it and those who celebrate it.

He had Batman (89) and The Dark Knight tied for best comic book film, so I'd say he does enjoy Nolan's interpretation. He also said he had a new found respect for Batman Begins upon the most recent viewing. So I'd say he does like Nolan's interpretation, just not the last film.

Movie mogul · 12-06-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterChief117

Neverending doesn't like Nolan's interpretation of the Batman mythology and constantly mocks it and those who celebrate it. No critical thinking individual with a brain would say that Batman Forever stands on the same level as The Dark Knight Rises. Acting. Thematically. Scope. Story. All better.

Well Nolan didn't give me any Batman in TDKR...Just saying. Im bitter.

Neverending · 12-06-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterChief117

No critical thinking individual with a brain would say that Batman Forever stands on the same level as The Dark Knight Rises.

FOREVER: I am both Bruce Wayne AND Batman. Not because I have to be, but because I choose to be!

RISES: I'm retired. See ya at the French cafe, Alfred.

WINNER:

MovieBuff801 · 12-06-2012, 11:38 AM

Watched it for the fifth time yesterday, and whatever issues I have with it (mainly the first half hour) don't bother me as much anymore. I ultimately don't mind that Batman isn't in the film as much because the rest of the story is just so damn involving and as for the ending...I'm not going to presume to say Nolan's choice was RIGHT or anything like that, but I can at least respect and appreciate the risk he took with it. Mainly because he brought it all full circle, going back to the conversation on the jet in Batman Begins between Bruce and Alfred.

Neverending · 12-06-2012, 11:46 AM

The film ultimately makes no sense. There was no legitimate reason for Hermit Bruce Wayne. Just because Batman isn't needed doesn't mean Bruce Wayne can't contribute to society the way his father did. Bane was essentially a glorified henchman. The whole "shock ending" with Talia was stupid. She should have been there the moment Bane attacked Wall Street. And if she had actually been Bruce Wayne's girlfriend, it would have added an emotional punch. And let's not get started on Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

Deexan · 12-06-2012, 12:37 PM

Didn't he try to contribute to society by creating clean energy?

Doomsday · 12-06-2012, 01:39 PM

I don't know where Neverending finds his gifs but some sure do make me laugh.

Deexan · 12-06-2012, 01:50 PM

Where does he get those wonderful gifs...

sshuttari · 12-06-2012, 01:57 PM

I prefer Nolans Trilogy over Burton/Shumacher's films

MovieBuff801 · 12-06-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sshuttari

I prefer Nolans Trilogy over Burton/Shumacher's films

Same here.

Deexan · 12-06-2012, 03:25 PM

By a country mile.

Nick1988 · 12-06-2012, 04:30 PM

I find this movie highly entertaining and capitvating, but i do see some of the plot holes that people pick about, i do agree that Bane went out pretty soft, i mean Batman techinically never beat him, Bane was about to kill him for good, and Catwoman saved his ass.

I still think the whole all the cops going into the sewer, the Bane taking over Gotham so easily thing, was a bit to far fetched.

In short, i guess one could say this was the movie that Nolan stepped a tad bit out of his comfort zone, maybe tried to hard to top TDK, instead of just accepting that TDK was a once in a life time movie mainly because of a once in the life time type performance, than again i loved Hardys Bane, probably my second favorite movie villain behind Ledgers Joker

MasterChief117 · 12-06-2012, 04:46 PM

Ehhhhhhh.

Movie mogul · 12-07-2012, 07:59 AM

"So that's what that feels like..." is a ridiculous line, the moment he said this I knew all hope was lost...I also tried to ignore the battle dance sequence he has with catwoman on the roof top. Was very very reminicent of FOREVER and B&R. Do they talk to each other while fighting? I think they do...

Can someone tell me if Bane is supposed to have a built in microphone in that mouth guard? His voice sounded amplified everytime he spoke...

Wyldstaar · 12-07-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Movie mogul

I also tried to ignore the battle dance sequence he has with catwoman on the roof top. Was very very reminicent of FOREVER and B&R. Do they talk to each other while fighting? I think they do...

They do speak, but it's not exactly a conversation. Catwoman is about to shoot a thug when Batman knocks it out of her hand and says "No guns, no killing." She says "Where's the fun in that?" That's it, really. The entire fight sequence is actually very short. After only about twenty seconds of fighting (including the conversation), Bane shows up with another dozen thugs with assault rifles, so the two of them run for it. The over-choreographed fights of the Schumacher era went on for several minutes.

Doomsday · 12-07-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Movie mogul

"So that's what that feels like..." is a ridiculous line, the moment he said this I knew all hope was lost...I also tried to ignore the battle dance sequence he has with catwoman on the roof top. Was very very reminicent of FOREVER and B&R. Do they talk to each other while fighting? I think they do...

Can someone tell me if Bane is supposed to have a built in microphone in that mouth guard? His voice sounded amplified everytime he spoke...

These are Doomsday type nitpicks.

saveus1011 · 12-07-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Neverending

Batman Begins is a MILLION times better than this movie. Heck, Batman FOREVER is better than this movie.

No.

sshuttari · 12-07-2012, 11:49 AM

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Batman Begins is a MILLION times better than this movie. Heck, Batman FOREVER is better than this movie.

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12-05-2012, 05:13 PM	#1351
JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,491	I was thinking Kevin Kline. __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

12-05-2012, 05:59 PM	#1352
Tornado I am busy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 32,385	I watched TDKR again last night. I would say I enjoyed it more than my previous two viewings. I don't know that I'd necessarily put it above either of Nolan's other Batfilms, but that's saying more about the quality of the other two than it is about TDKR. I might put it above Batman Begins, maybe. I did come away still having the one major complaint I did after the previous screenings though. Call it a drama, a crime drama, a character piece, etc, whatever, it's still a Batman movie. And for a Batman movie it has a surprising lack of Batman. __________________ MY BLU-RAY COLLECTION

12-06-2012, 04:00 AM	#1354
Mikey-Bizzle Executive Producer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 342	Watched it again the other night and loved it even more 2nd time around. I don't get what you miserable haters are on about it's just as good if not better than Batman Begins imo Last edited by Mikey-Bizzle; 12-06-2012 at 07:23 AM.

12-06-2012, 04:10 AM	#1355
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,100	Batman Begins is a MILLION times better than this movie. Heck, Batman FOREVER is better than this movie. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

12-06-2012, 03:16 AM	#1353
Movie mogul Legend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,027	My problem is that it failed as a continuation of what Nolan started and even worse failed as a Batman movie. Apocalyptic opera featuring the character Batman is how I see it. I even think catwoman does more ass kicking than our hero - he only gets his ass kicked or runs away in that horrid spaceship (That's about as memorable as his appearences get). Even Alfred goes awol! Come on...lets be honest with ourselves, it may entertain you as a film but ultimately this is stand alone feature that doesn't deliver Batman in all his glory. I would have settled for a smaller movie. I want TDK to be the last part for me, however the cliffhanger ending doesn't let me feel that way about it...therefore TDKR is the Return of the Jedi, Bane is the Emperor, the rest of the characters are the ewoks. The fire doesn't even rise god damn it!

12-06-2012, 05:08 AM	#1356
Movie mogul Legend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,027	Come on now Neverending, Lets not get carried away...Forever was as good as TDKR, not better. I'm not trying to hate Mikey, I just can't get passed the fact that I was dissapointed and it hurts...I cry myself to sleep every night. Deep down Nolan knows...he knows...

12-06-2012, 11:38 AM	#1361
MovieBuff801 Fringe Division Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walter's Lab Posts: 10,881	Watched it for the fifth time yesterday, and whatever issues I have with it (mainly the first half hour) don't bother me as much anymore. I ultimately don't mind that Batman isn't in the film as much because the rest of the story is just so damn involving and as for the ending...I'm not going to presume to say Nolan's choice was RIGHT or anything like that, but I can at least respect and appreciate the risk he took with it. Mainly because he brought it all full circle, going back to the conversation on the jet in Batman Begins between Bruce and Alfred. __________________ AFI Top 100 Movies (1998) Seen: 67 out of 100

12-06-2012, 11:46 AM	#1362
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,100	The film ultimately makes no sense. There was no legitimate reason for Hermit Bruce Wayne. Just because Batman isn't needed doesn't mean Bruce Wayne can't contribute to society the way his father did. Bane was essentially a glorified henchman. The whole "shock ending" with Talia was stupid. She should have been there the moment Bane attacked Wall Street. And if she had actually been Bruce Wayne's girlfriend, it would have added an emotional punch. And let's not get started on Joseph Gordon-Levitt. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

12-06-2012, 12:37 PM	#1363
Deexan Integral Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,323	Didn't he try to contribute to society by creating clean energy? __________________ I'm about to drive in the ocean, I'm about to swim from something that's bigger than me SoundCloud Twitter

12-06-2012, 01:50 PM	#1365
Deexan Integral Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,323	Where does he get those wonderful gifs... __________________ I'm about to drive in the ocean, I'm about to swim from something that's bigger than me SoundCloud Twitter

12-06-2012, 03:25 PM	#1368
Deexan Integral Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,323	By a country mile. __________________ I'm about to drive in the ocean, I'm about to swim from something that's bigger than me SoundCloud Twitter

12-06-2012, 04:30 PM	#1369
Nick1988 Executive Producer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,401	I find this movie highly entertaining and capitvating, but i do see some of the plot holes that people pick about, i do agree that Bane went out pretty soft, i mean Batman techinically never beat him, Bane was about to kill him for good, and Catwoman saved his ass. I still think the whole all the cops going into the sewer, the Bane taking over Gotham so easily thing, was a bit to far fetched. In short, i guess one could say this was the movie that Nolan stepped a tad bit out of his comfort zone, maybe tried to hard to top TDK, instead of just accepting that TDK was a once in a life time movie mainly because of a once in the life time type performance, than again i loved Hardys Bane, probably my second favorite movie villain behind Ledgers Joker

12-06-2012, 04:46 PM	#1370
MasterChief117 The Batman Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gotham City Posts: 13,328	Ehhhhhhh. __________________ "You will give the people an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders." "You don't owe these people anymore. You've given them everything." "Not everything, not yet."

12-07-2012, 07:59 AM	#1371
Movie mogul Legend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,027	"So that's what that feels like..." is a ridiculous line, the moment he said this I knew all hope was lost...I also tried to ignore the battle dance sequence he has with catwoman on the roof top. Was very very reminicent of FOREVER and B&R. Do they talk to each other while fighting? I think they do... Can someone tell me if Bane is supposed to have a built in microphone in that mouth guard? His voice sounded amplified everytime he spoke...