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[Ramplate]

Originally Posted by Brock Landers

I forgot who it was who said it, but whoever said "he looks like the guy who fired your dad" summed up Willard Romney perfectly.

"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."
-Mitt Romney

[FranklinTard]

i think it is a little bit blown out of proportion. it was only a joke. sure a negative one, but what hasn't been in this election cycle?

and looking at the money... i'm more scared of mittens than ever. and you should be too. more money... more votes. at least historically.

[Ramplate]

Yeah $875,000,000+ has bee spent on just the two major candidates in this election.

The money needs to be taken out of the process - I bet they'd get enough coverage if they just called and mailed radio and TV stations to tell them where they were going to speak. And they wouldn't need to spend such an obscene amount of money - money that would be better spent on fixing actual problems.
I wrote my two senators about that - I'll let you know what kind of response, if any, I get.


Also, isn't it interesting that all those people donate tons of money like that to a campaign - but they like to hide it when tax time comes around. That's not really helping America as much as they could.

[Ramplate]

Windows 8 sends Microsoft information about every program you install

Even though it won’t be released for another month and a half, Microsoft’s (MSFT) upcoming Windows 8 operating system has already found itself at the center of a number of controversies. After being criticized for its Metro interface and lack of a Start button, Microsoft is now facing its most troubling accusation yet. According to programmer Nadim Kobeissi, Windows 8 automatically and immediately, through a new feature called SmartScreen, informs Microsoft about every app that is downloaded and installed on the operating system.

Windows SmartScreen is supposedly meant to protect users from malicious programs by screening applications installed from the Internet and sending the information to Microsoft to ensure its safety. According to Kobeissi, however, “it may be possible to intercept SmartScreen’s communications to Microsoft and thus learn about every single application downloaded and installed by a target.”

The SmartScreen feature is turned on by default and when disabled, Windows will periodically pester users to re-enable it. Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

[Ramplate]

Jury convicts Drew Peterson of 3rd wife's death

JOLIET, Ill. (AP) — Jurors convicted Drew Peterson of murdering his third wife Thursday, capping a sensational, five-year legal saga that began after the swaggering former Illinois police officer's fourth wife vanished.

Peterson, 58, sat stoically as the verdict was read. He faces a maximum 60-year prison term when sentenced on Nov. 26. Illinois has no death penalty.

The prosecution built its case almost exclusively on circumstantial and hearsay evidence, including testimony about what Peterson's wives had told friends and acquaintances before the one died and the other disappeared. The verdict was a vindication for Will County prosecutors, who gambled by putting on such a case and then committed numerous stumbles during testimony that drew angry scoldings from the judge.

Over the course of the investigation and prosecution, Peterson had seemingly taunted authorities, joking on talk shows and even suggesting a "Win a Date With Drew" contest. His notoriety even inspired a TV movie starring Rob Lowe.

A neighbor found Kathleen Savio's body on March 1, 2004, face down in a dry bathtub of her suburban home outside Chicago. Her thick black hair was blood-soaked and she had a 2-inch gash on the back of her head.

The drowning death of the 40-year-old aspiring nurse was initially deemed an accident — a freak slip in the tub. After Peterson's fourth wife, 23-year-old Stacy Peterson, went missing in 2007 was Savio's body exhumed, re-examined and her death reclassified as a homicide.

The 12 jurors, who raised eyebrows by donning different color-coordinated clothes each day of testimony, deliberated for XXdays/hours before reaching a decision. The seven men and five women included a poet, a letter carrier and a man who said his favorite TV show was "Criminal Minds."

Peterson had divorced Savio a year before her death. His motive for killing her, prosecutors said, was fear that a pending settlement, which included their $300,000 home, would wipe him out financially.

Fascination nationwide with the former Bolingbrook police sergeant arose from speculation he sought to parlay three decades of law enforcement expertise into getting away with murder.

Prosecutors suspect he killed his fourth wife because she could finger him for Savio's death. Stacy Peterson's family hoped a conviction in Savio's murder could lead to charges against Drew Peterson in Stacy's disappearance.

Jurors weren't supposed to link the fourth wife's disappearance to the third's death. Prosecutors were prohibited from even telling jurors Stacy Peterson is presumed dead or that her husband is the lone suspect in her disappearance. He says she ran off with another man and is still alive.

Prosecutors faced enormous hurdles.

They had no physical evidence tying Peterson to Savio's death and no witnesses placing him at the scene. They were forced to rely on typically barred hearsay — statements Savio made to others before she died and that Stacy Peterson made before she vanished. In 2008, Illinois passed a law tailored to Peterson's case, dubbed "Drew's Law," permitting hearsay at trials in rare circumstances.

The hearsay included friend Kristen Anderson testifying that Savio told her Peterson once warned her at knife point, "I could kill you and make it look like an accident." Savio so feared for her life that she kept a knife under her mattress.

And Stacy Peterson's pastor, Neil Schori, testified she told him that her husband got up from bed and left their house in the middle of the night around the time of Savio's death. Crying and hugging her knees, she said Drew Peterson later coached her on how to lie to police.

There was damning testimony not based on hearsay.

A former co-worker of Peterson's, Jeff Pachter, testified that Peterson offered him $25,000 to hire a hit man to kill Savio, though he never followed through. After Savio was found dead, Peterson told him, "That favor I asked you — I don't need it anymore."

Prosecutors had to establish the most basic fact for a murder trial: that there was actually a murder.

Pathologists testified for the defense that Savio's wounds indicated an accident. But equally well-respected pathologists for the state said it was impossible for a single fall to cause both the wound on the back of her head and bruises on the front of her body.

In their three-day case, Peterson's lawyers endeavored to cast doubt on the reliability of key witnesses. They accused Savio's sister, Susan Doman, of jazzing up her testimony to profit from a movie and book deal.

The last defense witness was Peterson's and Savio's 19-year-old son, Thomas Peterson. The polite, well-spoken college student cut a sympathetic figure, telling jurors he has never believed his father killed his mom.

Both sides blundered parts of their presentations.

Prosecutors angered the judge several times by broaching subjects previously ruled inadmissible. And as they sought to blunt the credibility of hearsay evidence, the defense ended up prompting their own witness to emphasize that Stacy Peterson was convinced her husband did kill Savio.

Peterson could still win release someday. His lawyers have said they may appeal all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court on grounds Illinois' hearsay law is unconstitutional.

Some legal experts worried about the precedent a conviction at a trial dependent on hearsay would set, saying it could open the floodgates for the admissibility of such evidence in Illinois and elsewhere.

[Justin]

Japan has not had it easy these past few years.

Pressure in Mount Fuji is now higher than last eruption, warn experts

The pressure in Mount Fuji's magma chamber is now higher than it was in 1707, the last time the nearly 4,000-metre-high Japanese volcano erupted, causing volcanologists to speculate that a disaster is imminent.

The new readings, taken by the National Research Institute for Earth Science and Disaster Prevention, reveal that the pressure is at 1.6 megapascals, nearly 16 times the 0.1 megapascals it takes to trigger an eruption.

This, lead volcanologist on the case Eisuke Fujita told Kyodo News, is "not a small figure".

Researchers have speculated for some time that the volcano, located on Honshu Island 100km southwest of Tokyo, is overdue an eruption. In 2000 and 2001 a series of low-frequency earthquakes were recorded beneath the volcano, leading to widespread predictions of an imminent blow. Since the March 2011 tsunami and the 6.4 magnitude earthquake that followed four days later, Japan has been on tenterhooks, and in May 2012 a professor from Ryukyu University warned that a massive eruption within three years would be likely because of several major factors: steam and gases are being emitted from the crater, water eruptions are occurring nearby, massive holes emitting hot natural gases are appearing in the vicinity and finally, the warning sign that pushed the professor to make the announcement, a 34km-long fault was found underneath the volcano. The fault, experts suggested, could indicate a total collapse of the mountainside if there is another significant shift, and it would probably cause a collapse in the event of an eruption, leading to huge mud and landslides.

The new readings prove that the localised tectonic shifts of 2011 have indeed put immense pressure on the magma chamber, but the National Research Institute for Earth Science and Disaster Prevention has qualified its warning by noting that pressure is just one contributory factor to an eruption. The 1707 quake, however, was itself caused by a recent earthquake that amped up the pressure in its magma chamber.

"It's possible for Mount Fuji to erupt even several years after the March 2011 earthquake, therefore we need to be careful about the development," a representative said.

A 2004 government report originally estimated that an eruption would cost the country £19.6 billion. However, new studies are underway by Honshu Island's Shizuoka prefectural government. The study is focussing on the potential damage that would be caused by a series of simultaneous earthquakes in the Tokai, Tonankai and Nankai regions located along the Nankai Trough, where it is feared another earthquake will soon take place. The most recent models have revealed that, in the worst-case scenario, 323,000 people would die and the tremors could trigger an eruption at Mount Fuji.

Regions that would be affected, including Kanagawa, Yamanashi and Shizuoka, plan to hold a test run of an evacuation by 2014, with a meeting of local governments covering progress of the plans and of shelter preparations slated for April 2013.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/.../06/mount-fuji

[Justin]

Indeed.

Airplane funniest film ever, research finds
Spoof disaster movie Airplane is the funniest film ever - generating three laughs a minute on average, according to new research.

Airplane - which features classic one liners such as 'I am serious and don't call me Shirley' - came out top in research conducted by a panel of members of movie subscription service Lovefilm.

They calculated the precise number of 'laughs a minute' for the top 10 comedies chosen by Lovefilm members.

The panel recorded the total number of times each film generated a laugh, before dividing it by the films' total length in minutes to calculate the precise 'laugh a minute' rating for each movie.

With a 'laugh A minute' score of three, Airplane beat nine rival comedies to top the list which has been created to mark The Hangover becoming available to stream on Lovefilm Instant.

The Las Vegas man-movie featuring the bachelor party to end all bachelor parties marked its arrival onto the Lovefilm Instant service by scoring a 'Laugh A Minute' rating of 2.4.

The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad completed the top three with a 'laugh a minute' score of 2.3.

Foul-mouthed Superbad managed a 'laugh a minute' score of 1.9, followed closely by the outrageous and least politically correct movie ever made, Borat, with 1.7.

Modern classic Anchorman reported in at sixth place. This battle of the sexes in a newsroom has spawned a whole range of one liners and manages to make audiences laugh 1.6 times per minute on average.

Helen Cowley, editor of Lovefilm, said: "After many heated debates about whether The Hangover really is the funniest movie ever, we asked our members to vote for the 10 movies that make them laugh the most, and then conducted our own research into how many times those included in this list made us giggle.

"Interestingly, while Lovefilm members voted Life of Brian as the funniest film, our research shows that for laughs a minute the hilarious aircraft-based satire of Airplane beats the Monty Python epic hands-down."

Top 10 Films With The Highest 'Laugh A Minute' Scores:

1. Airplane - 3 Laughs A Minute
2. The Hangover - 2.4 Laughs A Minute
3. The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad ! - 2.3 Laughs A Minute
4. Superbad - 1.9 Laughs A Minute
5. Borat - 1.7 Laughs A Minute
6. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy - 1.6 Laughs A Minute
7. American Pie - 1.5 Laughs A Minute
8. Bridesmaids - 1.4 Laughs A Minute
9. Shaun of the Dead - 1.3 Laughs A Minute
10. Life of Brian - 1.2 Laughs A Minute

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/f...rch-finds.html

[JBond]

"Science" at work.

[Ramplate]

4,287 US Dead, and 30,182 US Wounded - was it really worth it?


Iraq's Sunni vice president sentenced to death

BAGHDAD (AP) — A Baghdad court sentenced Iraq's fugitive Sunni vice president to death Sunday after finding him guilty of masterminding the killings of a lawyer and a government security official.

Tariq al-Hashemi has denied the allegations. He fled the country after Iraq's Shiite-led government leveled the terror charges against him in December.

The politically charged case sparked a crisis in Iraq's government and has fueled Sunni Muslim and Kurdish resentment against Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite who critics say is monopolizing power.

The Baghdad courtroom was silent Sunday as the presiding judge read out the verdict convicting al-Hashemi and his son-in-law of organizing the murders of a Shiite security official and a lawyer who had refused to help the vice president's allies in terror cases.

The court sentenced both men in absentia to death by hanging. They have 30 days to appeal the verdict.

The judge said al-Hashemi, who is in Turkey, was acquitted in a third case linked to the killing of another security officer, due to a lack of evidence.

The trial has fueled resentment among Iraq's Sunni minority, and al-Hashemi himself has dismissed the charges against him as a political vendetta pursued by his longtime rival, al-Maliki.

Sunday's final session of the trial opened a window on the politically charged nature of the case.

The defense team began its closing statement with a searing indictment of the judicial system, accusing it of losing its independence and siding with the Shiite-led government.

"From the beginning and through all procedures, it has become obvious that the Iraqi judicial system has been under political pressure," attorney Muayad Obeid al-Ezzi, the head of the defense team, told the court.

The presiding judge interjected, warning that that the court would open legal proceedings against the defense team if it continued to heap accusations on the court or the judicial system.

Iraqi political analyst Hadi Jalo said the verdict against al-Hashemi will help the embattled prime minster.

"With this verdict al-Maliki will be stronger as it will strengthen his hands," Jalo said. "The verdict, the most important since the trial of the Saddam Hussein who was hanged in 2006 with al-Maliki in office, will serve as a message to all that the government will not tolerate" misdeeds, he said.

Some contested that assessment, while others agreed, splitting along sectarian lines.

"I consider the whole trial and the verdict today as another farce to be added to the Iraqi judicial system since the Saddam Hussein trial," said Abdullah al-Azami, a 45-year-old Sunni lawyer from Baghdad.

"We were hoping to see an independent judicial system after 2003, away from the influence of politics and politicians, but we have found out that this is impossible," al-Azami said.

Khalid Saied, a Shiite pharmacist, differed.

"I strongly support this verdict, and there many other people in prisons who should receive the same (death) sentence," said Saied, a 40-year old father of three. "I call upon the government to air all al-Hashemi's crimes on TV, so that the entire world knows him," he said.

The trial, which began last spring, featured testimony from the vice president's former bodyguards, who said they were ordered, and then paid, to launch the attacks. Government forces who found weapons when they raided al-Hashemi's house and that of his son-in-law also testified in the case, as did relatives of the victims.

A spokesman for al-Hashemi said the vice president would release a statement later Sunday.

Iraq's Shiite-led government has accused al-Hashemi of playing a role in 150 bombings, assassinations and other attacks from 2005 to 2011 — most of which were allegedly carried out by his bodyguards and other employees. Most of the attacks the government claims al-Hashemi was behind targeted the vice president's political foes, as well as government officials, security forces and Shiite pilgrims.

The charges against the vice president span the worst years of bloodshed that followed the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, when sectarian attacks between Sunni and Shiite militants pushed the country to the brink of civil war.

Al-Hashemi has claimed that his bodyguards were likely tortured or otherwise coerced into testifying against him.

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[Deexan]

A new species of monkey has been identified in Africa, researchers have said.

The species, known locally as the lesula, was discovered after a young female was seen kept captive at the home of a primary school director in the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2007.

The young animal resembled an owl faced monkey (Cercopithecus hamlyni) but its colouring was different to that of any known species, said the researchers writing in the journal PLoS ONE.

Other wild lesula (Cercopithecus lomamiensis) have since been found in their remote range in central Democratic Republic of Congo, where they live in forests and feed on leafstalks, fruit and flower buds.

The discovery of the new species, in one of the country's last unexplored forest areas, is only the second time a new monkey species has been found in Africa in the last 28 years.

Although the 6,500 square mile area in which the shy lesula is found is remote and sparsely populated, the researchers warn the monkey is vulnerable to extinction as a result of hunting for bush meat.

They called for controls on hunting and the creation of a protected area covering its range to conserve the lesula and other wildlife found in the region.

The monkey, referring to itself as Professor John Hart, said: "The challenge for conservation now in Congo is to intervene before losses become definitive.

"Species with small ranges like the lesula can move from vulnerable to seriously endangered over the course of just a few years."

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/new-mon...ound-in-africa

It looks more self-aware than some humans I know.

[Justin]

He's lost in thought.

[Ramplate]

Wow, right out of the box

Microsoft finds malware on new computers in China

WASHINGTON (AP) — A customer in Shenzhen, China, took a new laptop out of its box and booted it up for the first time. But as the screen lit up, the computer began taking on a life of its own. The machine, triggered by a virus hidden in its hard drive, began searching across the Internet for another computer.

The laptop, supposedly in pristine, super-fast, direct-from-the-factory condition, had instantly become part of an illegal, global network capable of attacking websites, looting bank accounts and stealing personal data.

For years, online investigators have warned consumers about the dangers of opening or downloading emailed files from unknown or suspicious sources. Now, they say malicious software and computer code could be lurking on computers before the bubble wrap even comes off.

The shopper in this case was part of a team of Microsoft researchers in China investigating the sale of counterfeit software. They received a sudden introduction to malware called Nitol. The incident was revealed in court documents unsealed Thursday in a federal court in Virginia. The records describe a new front in a legal campaign against cybercrime being waged by the maker of the Windows operating system, which is the biggest target for viruses.

The documents are part of a computer fraud lawsuit filed by Microsoft against a web domain registered to a Chinese businessman named Peng Yong. The company says the domain is a major hub for illicit Internet activity, home base for Nitol and more than 500 other types of malware, which makes it the largest single repository of infected software that Microsoft officials have encountered.

Peng, the owner of an Internet services firm, said he was not aware of the Microsoft suit. He denied the allegations and said his company does not tolerate improper conduct on the domain, 3322.org. Three other unidentified individuals accused by Microsoft of establishing and operating the Nitol network are also named in the suit.

What emerges most vividly from the court records and interviews with Microsoft officials is a disturbing picture of how vulnerable Internet users have become, in part because of weaknesses in computer supply chains. To increase their profit margins, less reputable computer manufacturers and retailers may use counterfeit copies of popular software products to build machines more cheaply. Plugging the holes is nearly impossible, especially in less regulated markets such as China, and that leaves openings for cybercriminals.

"They're really changing the ways they try to attack you," said Richard Boscovich, a former federal prosecutor and a senior attorney in Microsoft's digital crimes unit.

Distance doesn't equal safety. Nitol, for example, is an aggressive virus found on computers in China, the United States, Russia, Australia and Germany. Microsoft has even identified servers in the Cayman Islands controlling Nitol-infected machines. All these compromised computers become part of a botnet, or collection of compromised computers; it's one of the most invasive and persistent forms of cybercrime.

Nitol appears poised to strike. Infection rates have peaked, according to Patrick Stratton, a senior manager in Microsoft's digital crimes unit who filed a document in the court case explaining Nitol and its connection to the 3322.org domain.

For Microsoft, pursuing cybercriminals is a smart business. Its Windows operating system runs most of the computers connected to the Internet. Victims of malware are likely to believe their problems stem from Windows instead of a virus they are unaware of, and that damages the company's brand and reputation.

But more than Microsoft's image is stake when counterfeit products are tainted by malware that spreads so rapidly, Boscovich said. "It's more than simply a traditional intellectual property issue," Boscovich said. "It's now become a security issue."

The investigation by Microsoft's digital crimes unit began in August 2011 as a study into the sale and distribution of counterfeit versions of Windows. Microsoft employees in China bought 20 new computers from retailers and took them back to a home with an Internet connection.

They found forged versions of Windows on all the machines and malware already installed on four. The one with Nitol, however, was the most alarming because the malware was active.

"As soon as we powered on this particular computer, of its own accord without any instruction from us, it began reaching out across the Internet, attempting to contact a computer unfamiliar to us," Stratton said in the document filed with the court.

The laptop was made by Hedy, a computer manufacturer in Guangzhou, China, according to the court records. The company, reached by phone, declined to answer questions.

Stratton and his colleagues also found Nitol to be highly contagious. They inserted a thumb drive into the computer and the virus immediately copied itself onto it. When the drive was inserted into a separate machine, Nitol quickly copied itself on to it.

Microsoft examined thousands of samples of Nitol, which has several variants, and all of them connected to command-and-control servers associated with the 3322.org domain, according to the court records.

"In short, 3322.org is a major hub of illegal Internet activity, used by criminals every minute of every day to pump malware and instructions to the computers of innocent people worldwide," Microsoft said in its lawsuit.

Peng, the registered owner of 3322.org, said he has "zero tolerance" for the misuse of domain names and works with Chinese law enforcement whenever there are complaints. Still, he said, his huge customer base makes policing difficult.

"Our policy unequivocally opposes the use of any of our domain names for malicious purposes," Peng said in a private chat via Sina Weibo, a service like Twitter that's very popular in China. "We currently have 2.85 million domain names and cannot exclude that individual users might be using domain names for malicious purposes."

Peng is the founder and chief executive of Bitcomm, a company he and his wife own. They founded an earlier company, which started 3322.org in 2001. Bitcomm took over the domain in 2007.

Past warnings by other online security firms have been ignored by Peng, according to Boscovich. 3322.org accounted for more than 17 percent of the world's malicious web transactions in 2009, according to Zscaler, a computer security firm in San Jose, Calif. In 2008, Russian security company Kaspersky Lab reported that 40 percent of all malware programs, at one point or another, connected to 3322.org.

U.S. District Judge Gerald Bruce Lee, who is presiding in the case, granted a request from Microsoft to begin steering Internet traffic from 3322.org that has been infected by Nitol and other malwares to a special site called a sinkhole. From there, Microsoft can alert affected computer users to update their anti-virus protection and remove Nitol from their machines.

Since Lee issued the order, more than 37 million malware connections have been blocked from 3322.org, according to Microsoft.

[Ramplate]

Death row inmate says he’s too overweight to be executed

Lawyers for a 480-pound death row inmate in Ohio say their client is too overweight to be put to death.

"Indeed, given his unique physical and medical condition there is a substantial risk that any attempt to execute him will result in serious physical and psychological pain to him, as well as an execution involving a torturous and lingering death," reads the filing made on behalf of Ronald Post, 53, who was convicted of shooting to death hotel clerk Helen Vantz 29 years ago.

Post, who is set to be executed by lethal injection on January 16, 2013, says that his executioners would encounter several problems, including difficulty finding a viable vein for injection and the likelihood that with his unusual weight he would break any gurney used in the process.

The Ohio prison system relies on lethal injection in cases resulting in execution.

Ohio is tied nationally with Kansas for the 13th highest obesity rate in the country, with 29.6 percent of its residents listed as overweight.

However, in a statement, Post's federal public defender, Joseph Wilhelm, said the confession used to convict his client was also exaggerated.

"Post's case is about more than his weight, and his life should be spared for reasons wholly unrelated to his obesity," the statement reads.

The Associated Press reports that this is not the first case in which a death row inmate has attempted to use his weight to escape execution.

In 1994, a federal judge in Washington State ruled that 400-pound Mitchell Rupe was too heavy to be hanged and instead was eventually sentenced to life in prison. Rupe died in confinement in 2006.

However, other heavyset inmates have not fared so well in their pleas, such as in the cases of Richard Cooey in 2008 and Christopher Newton in 2007. Still, both of those men each weighed 200 pounds less than Post.

Newton, who was also from Ohio, had his execution delayed for two hours while prison staff struggled to find a vein to administer his lethal injection.

The U.S. and 20 of the world's 198 countries officially sanction the death penalty, according to Amnesty International. The group reports that the U.S. executed 43 individuals in 2011. Of those, five executions were carried out in Ohio.

China is believed to have executed the largest number of individuals, though exact figures are not known. Amongst nations that have reported their number of executions, Iran leads the list, with at least 360 individuals executed in 2011.

[FranklinTard]

come on guys, we can't let iran win in the official count!

[Alien]

How can you be too fat for a shot gun round to the face? If you are killing a guy does it really matter how you do it? Hell shoot him twice if need be.

[Ramplate]

Executions are done so that we as a society feel better about carrying them out.
Seems rather silly that they even use an alcohol wipe for administering a lethal injection.

[FranklinTard]

Originally Posted by Alien

How can you be too fat for a shot gun round to the face? If you are killing a guy does it really matter how you do it? Hell shoot him twice if need be.

the hypocritical nature of capital punishment in this country means we want them dead, but we try not to make them suffer.

[Alien]

I don't think you'd suffer with a shot gun at point blank range to the face.

[JBond]

Is that a threat? I think he's threatening you.

[FranklinTard]

Originally Posted by Alien

I don't think you'd suffer with a shot gun at point blank range to the face.

i assume you would sign up to pull the trigger eh?

[Tolkien]

Maybe our generation wouldn't (I'm sure I'd be right there in the thinking twice, or three times, or more), but if we had to go with someone from the younger generation... I don't think they'd really think twice before pulling the trigger. I hate the blame society or video games or violent movies, but this generation is very desensitized to violent acts to a point where its actually quite terrifying.

[FranklinTard]

Oh please, every generation thinks they are the best and younger generations are ruining the world. It isn't factual.

[Dracula]

Originally Posted by Tolkien

Maybe our generation wouldn't (I'm sure I'd be right there in the thinking twice, or three times, or more), but if we had to go with someone from the younger generation... I don't think they'd really think twice before pulling the trigger. I hate the blame society or video games or violent movies, but this generation is very desensitized to violent acts to a point where its actually quite terrifying.

Which generation was Billy the Kid from?

[Tolkien]

Yours, I think.