Hobbit, Part 3 - Page 3

**JBond** · 07-30-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OBSERVER

Wow. I eat my words. It really is happening. At first I hated the idea, but now it is beginning to make sense. Regardless of being 2 or 3 films, it is still essentially one long movie like the last trilogy was. Better to make another film than add an extra 2 hours to 2 films on home video.

Oh it's making sense alright.

sshuttari · 07-30-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane

Glad Del Toro is no longer involved.

If these movies don't turn out as good watch everyone saying Del Toro should have stuck around...

OBSERVER · 07-30-2012, 05:19 PM

Film 3 is planned to be released in the summer after Film 2. That will be great.

I think PJ knows what he is doing. Game of Thrones could make a 10 hour season out of 1 book. You can get that many hours out of any decent story. Look at the entire audio book on youtube. There are 19 chapters and some chapters are an hour or more. And that is without any appendices material.

This also really helps with the 2 climaxes of Smaug and Battle of the 5 armies. Now we can have each of those end a film. This makes more sense than cramming a few extra hours into 2 extended home videos. In the end this will all flow as one story like the last trilogy.

FranklinTard · 07-31-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sshuttari

A little speculation...

Film One: If they keep the same structure as has been revealed, then this film would play out very similarly to Fellowship of the Ring, albeit probably more optimistic. The arc is very similar: it starts with a journey from the Shire to Rivendell, with peril met in the trollshaws. At Rivendell much is explained, through flashbacks and ominous revelations about artifacts in possession of the company. Then there's a failed attempt to cross the mountains, which results in a disasterous detour into the Goblin infested deeps. Then there's a narrow escape into some woods where the party meets a strange ally. Upon leaving they meet great peril and the conclusion takes place on the banks of a river.

Film Two: Rohan Redux. The party enters a once proud kingdom now under the control of a corrupted leader. Their quest stirs things up, and intially they're met rather unfavorably. At this point I think the inclusion of extra content really starts to show, with an expanded story following Bard and the ruined city of Dale. He's a young, proud member of his country, but somewhat of an outcast because of his unwillingness to become lax under the brooding shadow of a nearby evil. That or his son will play a role in him being the typical reluctant hero who turns into the inspiring leader by the end. The company plods on, and manages to spark things up under the mountain. Meanwhile we're getting more and more about Dol Guldur and the Necromancer. I imagine this film ending either with Bard's rise at Laketown, or with the Battle of the Five Armies. It really depends on the yet to be seen added elements of story. At this point I predict a combination of Laketown's attack and the seige of Dol Guldur.

Film Three: Setting up the Ring. Depending on where the previous film ends, this one could be exclusively focused on the Battle of the Five Armies, or a combination of that and Dol Guldur. If it's mainly the Battle, then I would expect a Return of the King like brooding up into a big battle. There's room for multiple storylines following each faction's movement towards the clash at Erebor, like the dual focus of Gondor and Rohan in the Siege of Gondor.

This is purely speculative, but I'm beginning to suspect that PJ will try to tie in a thought shared by Gandalf in the Quest for Erebor, that Smaug might have been a powerful asset for Sauron in the war to come. It's very likely, I think, that the films will create a thread the the Necromancer (Sauron) is pulling all the strings, and that the events at Dol Guldur are not as disconnected from Erebor as you might think.

you didn't write one word of this yourself. check where you stole this, they edited it.

sshuttari · 07-31-2012, 01:28 AM

^when did I say I wrote this??? Don't get your panties in a twist

Dhamon22 · 07-31-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sshuttari

^when did I say I wrote this??? Don't get your panties in a twist

No link or credit. I don't care but thats probably why he thought that.

I hope this series (why stop at three movies?) ends up being good, but I have my doubts.

DarthVader 2004 · 07-31-2012, 03:49 PM

I as a member of The One Ring.net was not surprised there would be 3 movies. Over there its been a big discussion about the 3rd movie possible even showing Balins fall in Moria to the orcs. Its speculation but some there had guessed that its possible we meet a young Aragorn but not played by Viggo Mortensen.

**JBond** · 07-31-2012, 04:03 PM

There are websites that talk about 12 Star Wars movies, of course they were talking about 3 over there.

DarthVader 2004 · 08-01-2012, 12:00 AM

I am serious some has heard that Jackson and Deltoro wrote a very long script that included Half of the sage as the Hobbit as we know it and the rest is more or less the real prequel set up for LOTR. Also The Battle Of The Five Armies was being talked as The Helms Deep and Seige Of Minis Tirith type of battle and not a couple pages. I would not know Star Wars stuff because Not obsessed with Star Wars anymore.

Bane · 08-01-2012, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I would not know Star Wars stuff because Not obsessed with Star Wars anymore.

I am, and those that waffle on about a "nine" movie saga honestly have no idea. It was never, ever going to be nine.

I am glad the Hobbit saga has been expanded to 3 films, plenty of material between The Hobbit and LOTR to mine.

Justin · 08-01-2012, 11:19 AM

Trilogy or not, I'll see it.

DarthVader 2004 · 08-01-2012, 06:35 PM

Would anyone like to see them do the last stand of Balin and his Men just to see The Dwarf who wrote what Gandalf reads later be more impactful knowing how they met there end

IanTheCool · 08-06-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Would anyone like to see them do the last stand of Balin and his Men just to see The Dwarf who wrote what Gandalf reads later be more impactful knowing how they met there end

It would be hard to fit that in without it feeling incredibly tacked on.

DarthVader 2004 · 08-06-2012, 09:32 PM

I think they will have allot of time to do some set up stuff by the 3rd movie. After all Smuag should be the climax of Part 2 and BOFA will be in 3. But I am likely wrong.

FVD · 08-16-2012, 10:07 AM

Now this is a Trilogy I can definitely rally behind.

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012...obbit-trilogy/

As for the Balin's Last Stand at Moria I'd prefer that we not need to see it but perhaps a little mention at the end of Movie 3 stating that he'll be heading back there.

*And yes - long time no see!!!!

*

Neverending · 08-31-2012, 07:02 PM

Warner Bros and MGM Pictures jointly announced today that the final film in Peter Jackson’s trilogy adaptation of The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien is now titled The Hobbit: There and Back Again. It will be released worldwide on July 18, 2014. All three films in the trilogy are productions of New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures. The Studios also announced the title of the second installment in the franchise, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, which will be released on December 13, 2013.

Henri Ducard · 09-01-2012, 06:43 PM

LOTR in the summer? Weird.

Ewok Droppings · 09-11-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JBond

12 Star Wars movies

Wait... only 12? WTF? Damn you Lucas!!!!!!!!!!

Panther2000 · 09-14-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Henri Ducard

LOTR in the summer? Weird.

I know, I thought the samething when I heard. If anything, LOTR/TH are not Summer movies. I wonder why they went that route for the last movie in the Middle Earth Universe. Though, It will be great not to have to wait another whole year for the next movie. Still???

3 months & Counting. I am still waiting on another Trailer, Hell it has almost been a year sense the last one

The Kid · 09-14-2012, 12:25 PM

Without Batman and Harry Potter, WB has a gap in their summers. Hobbit will fill that void.

Neverending · 02-28-2013, 07:46 PM

We will no longer be getting a summer Hobbit movie. Part 3 has been moved to December 17th.

Bane · 02-28-2013, 08:48 PM

Sanity has prevailed TFFT

PsYkOoOoO · 02-28-2013, 09:34 PM

I hope this means reshoots. They probably need a lot of that.

Neverending · 02-28-2013, 11:36 PM

He hasn't even finished Part 2 yet, so only time will tell. But he obviously wants more time for Part 3.

Fanible · 03-01-2013, 04:25 AM

Meh. I thought the fact that the story was stretched into three was a little less annoying by the shorter wait time.

07-30-2012, 05:19 PM	#53
OBSERVER Executive Producer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 803	Film 3 is planned to be released in the summer after Film 2. That will be great. I think PJ knows what he is doing. Game of Thrones could make a 10 hour season out of 1 book. You can get that many hours out of any decent story. Look at the entire audio book on youtube. There are 19 chapters and some chapters are an hour or more. And that is without any appendices material. This also really helps with the 2 climaxes of Smaug and Battle of the 5 armies. Now we can have each of those end a film. This makes more sense than cramming a few extra hours into 2 extended home videos. In the end this will all flow as one story like the last trilogy. Last edited by OBSERVER; 07-30-2012 at 05:42 PM.

07-31-2012, 04:03 PM	#58
JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,516	There are websites that talk about 12 Star Wars movies, of course they were talking about 3 over there. __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

08-16-2012, 10:07 AM	#65
FVD The Pineapple Thief Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 10,568	Now this is a Trilogy I can definitely rally behind. http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012...obbit-trilogy/ As for the Balin's Last Stand at Moria I'd prefer that we not need to see it but perhaps a little mention at the end of Movie 3 stating that he'll be heading back there. And yes - long time no see!!!! __________________ *“I'm an Alien, I'm a Legal Alien, I'm a New Zealander in Perth....”* I do not want what is not mine.... I only need what comes from within....

08-31-2012, 07:02 PM	#66
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,115	Warner Bros and MGM Pictures jointly announced today that the final film in Peter Jackson’s trilogy adaptation of The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien is now titled The Hobbit: There and Back Again. It will be released worldwide on July 18, 2014. All three films in the trilogy are productions of New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures. The Studios also announced the title of the second installment in the franchise, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, which will be released on December 13, 2013. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

02-28-2013, 07:46 PM	#71
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,115	We will no longer be getting a summer Hobbit movie. Part 3 has been moved to December 17th. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

07-31-2012, 03:49 PM	#57
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,563	I as a member of The One Ring.net was not surprised there would be 3 movies. Over there its been a big discussion about the 3rd movie possible even showing Balins fall in Moria to the orcs. Its speculation but some there had guessed that its possible we meet a young Aragorn but not played by Viggo Mortensen.

08-01-2012, 12:00 AM	#59
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,563	I am serious some has heard that Jackson and Deltoro wrote a very long script that included Half of the sage as the Hobbit as we know it and the rest is more or less the real prequel set up for LOTR. Also The Battle Of The Five Armies was being talked as The Helms Deep and Seige Of Minis Tirith type of battle and not a couple pages. I would not know Star Wars stuff because Not obsessed with Star Wars anymore.

08-01-2012, 11:19 AM	#61
Justin Executive Producer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 11,896	Trilogy or not, I'll see it.

08-01-2012, 06:35 PM	#62
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,563	Would anyone like to see them do the last stand of Balin and his Men just to see The Dwarf who wrote what Gandalf reads later be more impactful knowing how they met there end

08-06-2012, 09:32 PM	#64
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,563	I think they will have allot of time to do some set up stuff by the 3rd movie. After all Smuag should be the climax of Part 2 and BOFA will be in 3. But I am likely wrong.

09-01-2012, 06:43 PM	#67
Henri Ducard Executive Producer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 685	LOTR in the summer? Weird.

09-14-2012, 12:25 PM	#70
The Kid Director Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 161	Without Batman and Harry Potter, WB has a gap in their summers. Hobbit will fill that void.

02-28-2013, 08:48 PM	#72
Bane Executive Producer Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 245	Sanity has prevailed TFFT __________________ Your punishment must be more severe.

02-28-2013, 09:34 PM	#73
PsYkOoOoO Exceptionally Normal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore. Posts: 22,421	I hope this means reshoots. They probably need a lot of that. __________________ W.

02-28-2013, 11:36 PM	#74
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,115	He hasn't even finished Part 2 yet, so only time will tell. But he obviously wants more time for Part 3. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

03-01-2013, 04:25 AM	#75
Fanible FanFreakinTastic Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oh, hi yo Posts: 15,893	Meh. I thought the fact that the story was stretched into three was a little less annoying by the shorter wait time. __________________ My movie addiction is life controlling