The Dark Knight Rises - Page 43

Drizzt240 · 08-01-2012, 09:17 AM

Saw it for the Fourth time and I didn't enjoy it as much as the second or third time, but more then my first time. My mom didn't like it and her negative energy probably effected this viewing. Might have to see it one more time.

Ewok Droppings · 08-01-2012, 09:36 AM

Finally got around to seeing this last night. I have mixed feelings about this movie. I will say that it definitely was a candidate for the most overly anticipated movie of the year. It wasn't nearly what I thought it could have been.

What I liked:

I thought the character development was great. It didn't fail where so many of the other comic book adaptations fail by rushing character development. Sure, we are 3 movies into this series, but they still took time with Bane.

I liked the new "Bat" flying thingamabober.

The relationship with Alfred was pretty well done throughout the series.

I like that Wayne Enterprises is essentially destroyed (let's take a subtle political jab at "evil corporations" - but whatever). It added realism to the story and seemed to really put Bruce Wayne at a disadvantage at every turn adding tension to the story.

What I didn't like:
Cillian Murphy's character throughout the Batman trilogy was completely worthless. He was even more worthless here. I don't know much about the Scarecrow, but after watching Batman Begins I had the impression that he was going to resurface as a major enemy of some sort to Batman in later movies. Never happened and he could have been left out completely without any real problems.

Bane's death was completely stupid. Catwoman busts through the door on the bat bike (or whatever it's called) and shoots him in the chest with a rocket. Really? After all that, that's how he dies? STUPID!

Batman finally starts beating down Bane by hitting his little mouth piece thingy and making him choke/suffocate or whatever is happening. REALLY? If I was fighting some dude like Bane and I saw this big freaking mouth guard, that would probably be the FIRST thing I would go for. Should have figured that out the first fight - duh!

Batman gets stabbed and after Bane dies, we hear no more about it. WTF? This same stupid thing happened in Spider Man. He got shot, covered it with web goo and off he went. Last I checked Batman does NOT possess super human healing powers.

The story drug on in spots. They could have easily chopped this down by about 30 minutes. It was OK, but certainly not the best movie of the year. I wouldn't watch it again without having a DVD player and a fast forward button to skip through several areas of the movie that drug on way too long.

6.5/10

MovieBuff801 · 08-01-2012, 10:05 AM

Saw it for a 4th time, this time on IMAX, and it was AWESOME in that format. And I still love the movie.

PsYkOoOoO · 08-01-2012, 10:19 AM

I remember walking out of Batman Begins feeling the same way as I did with this movie. I felt that it was a decent movie, but couldn't understand what everybody was raving about. I have watched Batman Begins a couple of times through the years, and my verdict remains the same about it. The Dark Knight blew the lid off for me, because it was most tonally different from everything else. I know I didn't walk out of this movie thinking, "I have to watch this again!" Never occurred to me.

IanTheCool · 08-01-2012, 10:42 AM

Let me begin my review by saying that I though this was a really good movie and I did enjoy it a lot. However, my review is going to sound negative. Why is this? Its quite simple: the expectations game. While this was a good movie, I was expecting a great movie, considering the quality of the other two films in the series. And in the shadow of Batman Begins and the excellent Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises falls short.

Why does it fall short? That's somehting I've been trying to put my finger on, but I think what it comes down to is that a lot of the fun and spirit is lacking. All 3 of Nolan's Batman films have been darker and edgier, but we seem to forget that despite that, there is a lot of enojyment to be had in watching it. Rises however is pretty dreary throughout. There are no major set pieces which really stand out, like the semi-truck chase in Dark Knight for example, or the Joker interrogation. It lacks in truly great scenes; its as simple as that.

The plot itself is actually quite uninspired as well. Bane's group of terrorists take over Gotham completely and threaten it with nuclear bomb. Seriously? Does this villain have no imagination? I expect Jack Bauer to be called into a situation like that, but not Batman. It seems like a pretty pedestrian plot device. Not to mention that as Bane takes over Gotham, we really start to move more into the comicy realm and away from the realism that Nolan has built for us in this world.

Another big problem is that Batman isn't really in it much. Bruce Wayne is in it quite a bit, which is fine since Bale's portrayal of him is fascniating. But Batman himself here seem a little less cool than the previous films, the way he goes in and out of the shadows and is very stealthy, and a little more like the older films where he jsut shows up in his suit and starts fighting.

Okay, with all that out of the way, this is still a good film. when you strip expectations away from it. The acting is solid on all accounts, especially Christian Bale and Michael Caine who probably put in their best performances of the trilogy. I also like Anne Hathaway as Catwoman who gave just the right amount of ferocity.

The main villain Bane does not have the same flair as The Joker. However, he is a very menacing villain. He really made me feel like Batman had no chance against him, and that's quite a feat to pull off. And while I stick to my comment about no truly great scenes, their first fight was pretty close, on an emotional level at least.

And wile the Gotham events of the story were uninspired, the actual story of Bruce himself is what anchors this movie. While Bruce Wayne struggles with what he wants from life, we get some great moments like the prison wall climb and a great line to Commissioner Gordon at the end. And the ending of the movie wraps his storyline up very well (even if it does echo Good Will Hunting a bit).

A good movie ultimately, but also an undeniable disappointment.
8/10

Neverending · 08-03-2012, 01:08 AM

MasterChief117 · 08-03-2012, 01:11 AM

I love the random people who say this movie, "disappoints." lol. You mean you walked in with expectations of Kingdom Come and walked out getting what we got. Sheesh, Good to know people are unrealistic. Again, I'll take this, you guys take Batman and Robin.

Neverending · 08-03-2012, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterChief117

I'll take this, you guys take The Dark Knight

Fixed.

Movie mogul · 08-03-2012, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief117

I love the random people who say this movie, "disappoints." lol. You mean you walked in with expectations of Kingdom Come and walked out getting what we got. Sheesh, Good to know people are unrealistic. Again, I'll take this, you guys take Batman and Robin.

I will agree that I had expectations and ideas but to be honest they were not out of this world. I was a bit influenced by the initial media coverage that claimed this as a very successful third entry and conclusion. Its just not what I would have expected from Nolan after seeing TDK.

Don't know about you but actually I think Catwoman and Batman parading around in their outfits fighting crime is very reminiscent to Batman and Robin

MasterChief117 · 08-03-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Neverending

Fixed.

Riiigght

IanTheCool · 08-03-2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief117

I love the random people who say this movie, "disappoints." lol. You mean you walked in with expectations of Kingdom Come and walked out getting what we got. Sheesh, Good to know people are unrealistic. Again, I'll take this, you guys take Batman and Robin.

So you're telling me you had no expectations?

Nick1988 · 08-03-2012, 10:44 AM

I don't get it, movie was unreal to me and everyone i know thought the movie was incredible, people are nitpicking at this movie more so then any other movie in recent memory.

FranklinTard · 08-03-2012, 11:07 AM

it did disappoint. it wasn't as good as the dark knight.

the third movie always is the weakest, get over it. stop acting like children.

Dhamon22 · 08-03-2012, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief117

I love the random people who say this movie, "disappoints." lol. You mean you walked in with expectations of Kingdom Come and walked out getting what we got. Sheesh, Good to know people are unrealistic. Again, I'll take this, you guys take Batman and Robin.

I'm sure you went in completely level headed...

It was a disappointment after the expectations set up from The Dark Knight. Still a good movie and I don't see how it could've lived up expectations.

sshuttari · 08-03-2012, 03:09 PM

I think it was asking a lot when comparing it to TDK. But it was still a good movie.

Ewok Droppings · 08-03-2012, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranklinTard

the third movie always is the weakest, get over it. stop acting like children.

Case not true for the Star Wars movies - the worst to best went from 5th, 4th, 6th, 3rd, 1st, 2nd with the 5th being the worst and the 2nd being the best IMO. That is including the prequels of course. And by 1st, I mean SW: ANH, not TPM (that's 4th). Order goes from release date to theaters.

MasterChief117 · 08-03-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhamon22

I'm sure you went in completely level headed...

It was a disappointment after the expectations set up from The Dark Knight. Still a good movie and I don't see how it could've lived up expectations.

I actually did. I was really excited, but I didn't expect what everyone else was expecting. People were calling for Best Picture, this and that. I went in wanting to be entertained, and a satisfying conclusion to the Nolan Batman films. I got that.

Neverending · 08-03-2012, 09:21 PM

LOL. MasterChief, you're only lying to yourself. You were as hyped as all the SHH fanboys. You threw a major hissy fit when Avengers started breaking box office records and getting mass acclaim from audiences and critics. THEN, you threw another hissy fit when critics started badmouthing TDKR. Deep down, you're disappointed like everyone else. Maybe even more. You just don't want to admit it. You wanted TDKR to be the second coming of Christ and it wasn't.

**JBond** · 08-03-2012, 09:41 PM

I'll take a great movie over the second coming of Christ, any day. It would be over-hyped and commercialized, anyway. Second coming T-shirts, Second coming talk show guest spots. So on.

Brock Landers · 08-03-2012, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond

I'll take a great movie over the second coming of Christ, any day. It would be over-hyped and commercialized, anyway. Second coming T-shirts, Second coming talk show guest spots. So on.

And you just know that he would definitely be dropping an album in the fall, too. Tupac might even guest on a track.

Bane · 08-03-2012, 09:50 PM

TDKR
BB / TDK

Sue me.

**JBond** · 08-03-2012, 09:51 PM

I agree. Lennon would be better, but Tupac would be more commercial.

Brock Landers · 08-03-2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bane

TDKR
BB / TDK

Sue me.

Done. Do you really want to get in to a vicious sue-fight right now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond

I agree. Lennon would be better, but Tupac would be more commercial.

Lennon would just try to put Yoko on the song, and J.C. wouldn't like that because, at least from what I've heard, Yoko and J.C. absolutely despise one another. He totally dissed her at the Grammy's and was all like "CHRIST. OUT."

**JBond** · 08-03-2012, 10:03 PM

Imma let you finish, but Mozart is the greatest musician of all time!

Brock Landers · 08-03-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbond

imma let you finish, but mozart is the greatest musician of all time!

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08-01-2012, 09:36 AM	#1052
Ewok Droppings Executive Producer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Endor Forest Floor Posts: 14,440	Finally got around to seeing this last night. I have mixed feelings about this movie. I will say that it definitely was a candidate for the most overly anticipated movie of the year. It wasn't nearly what I thought it could have been. What I liked: I thought the character development was great. It didn't fail where so many of the other comic book adaptations fail by rushing character development. Sure, we are 3 movies into this series, but they still took time with Bane. I liked the new "Bat" flying thingamabober. The relationship with Alfred was pretty well done throughout the series. I like that Wayne Enterprises is essentially destroyed (let's take a subtle political jab at "evil corporations" - but whatever). It added realism to the story and seemed to really put Bruce Wayne at a disadvantage at every turn adding tension to the story. What I didn't like: Cillian Murphy's character throughout the Batman trilogy was completely worthless. He was even more worthless here. I don't know much about the Scarecrow, but after watching Batman Begins I had the impression that he was going to resurface as a major enemy of some sort to Batman in later movies. Never happened and he could have been left out completely without any real problems. Bane's death was completely stupid. Catwoman busts through the door on the bat bike (or whatever it's called) and shoots him in the chest with a rocket. Really? After all that, that's how he dies? STUPID! Batman finally starts beating down Bane by hitting his little mouth piece thingy and making him choke/suffocate or whatever is happening. REALLY? If I was fighting some dude like Bane and I saw this big freaking mouth guard, that would probably be the FIRST thing I would go for. Should have figured that out the first fight - duh! Batman gets stabbed and after Bane dies, we hear no more about it. WTF? This same stupid thing happened in Spider Man. He got shot, covered it with web goo and off he went. Last I checked Batman does NOT possess super human healing powers. The story drug on in spots. They could have easily chopped this down by about 30 minutes. It was OK, but certainly not the best movie of the year. I wouldn't watch it again without having a DVD player and a fast forward button to skip through several areas of the movie that drug on way too long. 6.5/10 __________________ The flat Earth myth is one of the greatest errors in modern history.

08-01-2012, 10:05 AM	#1053
MovieBuff801 Fringe Division Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walter's Lab Posts: 10,884	Saw it for a 4th time, this time on IMAX, and it was AWESOME in that format. And I still love the movie. __________________ AFI Top 100 Movies (1998) Seen: 67 out of 100

08-01-2012, 10:19 AM	#1054
PsYkOoOoO Exceptionally Normal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore. Posts: 22,411	I remember walking out of Batman Begins feeling the same way as I did with this movie. I felt that it was a decent movie, but couldn't understand what everybody was raving about. I have watched Batman Begins a couple of times through the years, and my verdict remains the same about it. The Dark Knight blew the lid off for me, because it was most tonally different from everything else. I know I didn't walk out of this movie thinking, "I have to watch this again!" Never occurred to me. __________________ W.

08-03-2012, 01:08 AM	#1056
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,115	__________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

08-01-2012, 10:42 AM	#1055
IanTheCool Executive Lego Producer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 13,395	Let me begin my review by saying that I though this was a really good movie and I did enjoy it a lot. However, my review is going to sound negative. Why is this? Its quite simple: the expectations game. While this was a good movie, I was expecting a great movie, considering the quality of the other two films in the series. And in the shadow of Batman Begins and the excellent Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises falls short. Why does it fall short? That's somehting I've been trying to put my finger on, but I think what it comes down to is that a lot of the fun and spirit is lacking. All 3 of Nolan's Batman films have been darker and edgier, but we seem to forget that despite that, there is a lot of enojyment to be had in watching it. Rises however is pretty dreary throughout. There are no major set pieces which really stand out, like the semi-truck chase in Dark Knight for example, or the Joker interrogation. It lacks in truly great scenes; its as simple as that. The plot itself is actually quite uninspired as well. Bane's group of terrorists take over Gotham completely and threaten it with nuclear bomb. Seriously? Does this villain have no imagination? I expect Jack Bauer to be called into a situation like that, but not Batman. It seems like a pretty pedestrian plot device. Not to mention that as Bane takes over Gotham, we really start to move more into the comicy realm and away from the realism that Nolan has built for us in this world. Another big problem is that Batman isn't really in it much. Bruce Wayne is in it quite a bit, which is fine since Bale's portrayal of him is fascniating. But Batman himself here seem a little less cool than the previous films, the way he goes in and out of the shadows and is very stealthy, and a little more like the older films where he jsut shows up in his suit and starts fighting. Okay, with all that out of the way, this is still a good film. when you strip expectations away from it. The acting is solid on all accounts, especially Christian Bale and Michael Caine who probably put in their best performances of the trilogy. I also like Anne Hathaway as Catwoman who gave just the right amount of ferocity. The main villain Bane does not have the same flair as The Joker. However, he is a very menacing villain. He really made me feel like Batman had no chance against him, and that's quite a feat to pull off. And while I stick to my comment about no truly great scenes, their first fight was pretty close, on an emotional level at least. And wile the Gotham events of the story were uninspired, the actual story of Bruce himself is what anchors this movie. While Bruce Wayne struggles with what he wants from life, we get some great moments like the prison wall climb and a great line to Commissioner Gordon at the end. And the ending of the movie wraps his storyline up very well (even if it does echo Good Will Hunting a bit). A good movie ultimately, but also an undeniable disappointment. 8/10

08-03-2012, 01:11 AM	#1057
MasterChief117 I believe in you Jim Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gotham City Posts: 13,344	I love the random people who say this movie, "disappoints." lol. You mean you walked in with expectations of Kingdom Come and walked out getting what we got. Sheesh, Good to know people are unrealistic. Again, I'll take this, you guys take Batman and Robin. __________________ "I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." "There's greatness in you. But there's not an ounce of humility. You think that you can't make mistakes, but there's gonna come a moment when you realize you're wrong about that. And you're gonna get yourself and everyone under your command killed."

08-03-2012, 10:44 AM	#1062
Nick1988 Executive Producer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,401	I don't get it, movie was unreal to me and everyone i know thought the movie was incredible, people are nitpicking at this movie more so then any other movie in recent memory.

08-03-2012, 11:07 AM	#1063
FranklinTard Damn,ThatsAColdAssHonkey Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,728	it did disappoint. it wasn't as good as the dark knight. the third movie always is the weakest, get over it. stop acting like children. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

08-03-2012, 09:21 PM	#1068
Neverending sex Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,115	LOL. MasterChief, you're only lying to yourself. You were as hyped as all the SHH fanboys. You threw a major hissy fit when Avengers started breaking box office records and getting mass acclaim from audiences and critics. THEN, you threw another hissy fit when critics started badmouthing TDKR. Deep down, you're disappointed like everyone else. Maybe even more. You just don't want to admit it. You wanted TDKR to be the second coming of Christ and it wasn't. __________________ "Would you like some boob action?" -Conan O'Brien July 13, 2004 12:55 AM "We’re No. 1 in TBS’ key demographic: People who can’t afford HBO." - Conan O'Brien May 18, 2011 "I honestly don't know who gives me a bigger boner: Zoe Saldana OR Chris Pine. Star Trek Into My Pants!" - Kevin Smith February 24, 2013 The Batman Appreciation Thread

08-03-2012, 09:41 PM	#1069
JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,502	I'll take a great movie over the second coming of Christ, any day. It would be over-hyped and commercialized, anyway. Second coming T-shirts, Second coming talk show guest spots. So on. __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

08-03-2012, 09:50 PM	#1071
Bane Executive Producer Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 234	TDKR BB / TDK Sue me. __________________ Your punishment must be more severe.

08-03-2012, 09:51 PM	#1072
JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,502	I agree. Lennon would be better, but Tupac would be more commercial. __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday

08-03-2012, 10:03 PM	#1074
JBond Feed me Join Date: May 2000 Location: SR388 Posts: 67,502	Imma let you finish, but Mozart is the greatest musician of all time! __________________ The due date for Round 135 of the CS Film Club is Monday, May 20th, 2013. 59 out of 64 Hugo Award winners completed. "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard 1" - Doomsday