Official 2012-2013 NBA Thread - Page 5

DarthVader 2004 · 07-13-2012, 01:09 PM

Its not about who is right or wrong here. Its about the fact that people over time forget greatness that was the players during the 90s. Yes its a faster game now but these new sports athelets have no respect for the players that shed blood sweat and tears to make the NFL, MLB and NBA what it is today.

Fresh Prince · 07-13-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Its not about who is right or wrong here. Its about the fact that people over time forget greatness that was the players during the 90s. Yes its a faster game now but these new sports athelets have no respect for the players that shed blood sweat and tears to make the NFL, MLB and NBA what it is today.

The guys of today have it easier, with high tech stuff for gyms to make them stronger and faster, games got softer.

Fresh Prince · 07-13-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

i'm not so sure about that.

this team is 100 times more athletic. would run up and down on that team. and unlike the dream team, this years olympic team actually plays defense. 80s-90s basketball is filled with offense because they aren't athletic enough to play good defense. i honestly think it would be close, give this team howard, rose, bosh, and wade, and this generations would rock them i think.

i think a terrible football team right now would beat the steel curtain from the 70s. athletes are just so much stronger and faster and more prepared these days.

Lol played no defense....what NBA was you watching....Bad Boys Pistons....hello. Like come on man they beat the **** out of players for coming to the hole. You must be a young buck or something, cause you do not know 80s or 90s NBA. Guys today play no defense lol, so easy to score now. Jordan in today NBA put up 50 or more a game.

FranklinTard · 07-14-2012, 10:59 AM

i was watching the one where the biggest dudes had a fraction of the muscles todays players do, they were lanky, flailing arms all over the place kinda players. they didn't play defense. they averaged more points for a reason, and it wasn't athleticism i'll tell you that. a rising tide lifts all boats, all the players today are more athletic than players yesterday, both defensively and offensively.

watch classic games. how many bad boys were on the dream team prince? how many? now how does your point make any sense?

this years team would laugh at their supposed 'athletes'.

again, i'll just agree to disagree. and vader... no. the 0-16 lions team would stomp all over championship teams from the 70s and 80s. 300 lbs was big for the fridge, people thought he was a freak of nature, name 1 team without multiple 300 lb guys... just one.

and lets not forget the dream teams competition, sybonis in lithuania, kukoc and petrovic for croatia. the only 3 nba caliber players in the entire tournament. spain alone has six nba players today. argentina and greece have their fair share these days too.

Diablo · 07-15-2012, 07:55 AM

Watching some of the summer league play. Beal looks legit. Saw a little of Lamb play against Wiz yesterday, that dude is going to be good.

FranklinTard · 07-15-2012, 11:48 AM

yea i like his potential a lot, but he is going to the magic obviously. that deal is way too good for the magic to pass up. rockets will have ruined their franchise for like 5 years if they go through with that deal next week.

don't get rid of lamb, parsons, or white. parsons is a lanky white dude that can play both sides of the ball, and i just think white and lamb have pretty decent futures.

and did i mention the knicks aren't keeping lin? i knew that was too much money to give to a guy who has a resume of 1 month. damn you morey. damn you.

Diablo · 07-15-2012, 10:53 PM

Yup I saw that the Knicks aren't going to match the offer. As for Houston trading, is this the same guy who traded Gay for Battier? But yeah Houston has a good crop of young guys . Do you think if they get Dwight it will be anything more than a one year rental?

bbf2 · 07-16-2012, 03:42 AM

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Yup I saw that the Knicks aren't going to match the offer. As for Houston trading, is this the same guy who traded Gay for Battier? But yeah Houston has a good crop of young guys . Do you think if they get Dwight it will be anything more than a one year rental?

Nope. As much as Dwight likes money, that team would be absolutely putrid besides him. It would basically be the same team he had last year in Orlando, except without Ryan Anderson. I'm assuming Kevin Martin would be part of the trade, so Houston will have given away basically all of their good players (and they weren't even a playoff team to begin with). The players they would hypothetically receive from the Magic would be the ones getting all the minutes.

FranklinTard · 07-16-2012, 10:47 AM

gotta love how marc stein said knicks would match up to 1 billion dollars, what an idiot.

Fresh Prince · 07-16-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

i was watching the one where the biggest dudes had a fraction of the muscles todays players do, they were lanky, flailing arms all over the place kinda players. they didn't play defense. they averaged more points for a reason, and it wasn't athleticism i'll tell you that. a rising tide lifts all boats, all the players today are more athletic than players yesterday, both defensively and offensively.

watch classic games. how many bad boys were on the dream team prince? how many? now how does your point make any sense?

this years team would laugh at their supposed 'athletes'.

again, i'll just agree to disagree. and vader... no. the 0-16 lions team would stomp all over championship teams from the 70s and 80s. 300 lbs was big for the fridge, people thought he was a freak of nature, name 1 team without multiple 300 lb guys... just one.

and lets not forget the dream teams competition, sybonis in lithuania, kukoc and petrovic for croatia. the only 3 nba caliber players in the entire tournament. spain alone has six nba players today. argentina and greece have their fair share these days too.

Isiah was going to be on the team but him and Jordan was beefing at the time. And come on this USA team outside a few guys is nothing special, Andre Igouldala is on the team, you think he would of been on the 90s team..hell no. And no way the 0-16 Lions beat the 70s Steelers or any other top 70s and 80s team. 0-16 Lions were soft, and the Steelers would destroy them. Whats point in having muscles if do not know how to use them, you think just cause they are big they have skill level, reason why they went 0-16 in the first place lol, they were terrible.

If the USA team today went up against the dream team they would get blown out. Pretty ignorant to think that just because todays players are bigger and more athletic, you think they can beat those guys. Can be big and athletic all you want, do not mean you will be really good.

The bad boys would without a doubt make the USA Team now, and say they would not because you got guys like Iggy on the squad, and the Rodman was a better defensive player than Tyson Chandler. Like what Charles Barkley said only 5 guys on this olympics team would even have a shot at make the dream team, thats LBJ, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and Carmelo Anthony.

SnoBorderZero · 07-16-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

gotta love how marc stein said knicks would match up to 1 billion dollars, what an idiot.

Seriously though, as a Rockets fan I'm excited for Lin. I'm not so excited about getting Howard and the crap Magic players that he wants to leave Orlando for. Hmmm that makes sense Morey, let's bring along all the dead weight Howard can't stand to entice him to stay. Morey is a complete dumbass.

DarthVader 2004 · 07-16-2012, 11:42 PM

Howard is not going to commit to the Rockets if he won't wanna play for the Magic. I think he is over rated to be honest.

FranklinTard · 07-17-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fresh Prince

Isiah was going to be on the team but him and Jordan was beefing at the time. And come on this USA team outside a few guys is nothing special, Andre Igouldala is on the team, you think he would of been on the 90s team..hell no. And no way the 0-16 Lions beat the 70s Steelers or any other top 70s and 80s team. 0-16 Lions were soft, and the Steelers would destroy them. Whats point in having muscles if do not know how to use them, you think just cause they are big they have skill level, reason why they went 0-16 in the first place lol, they were terrible.

If the USA team today went up against the dream team they would get blown out. Pretty ignorant to think that just because todays players are bigger and more athletic, you think they can beat those guys. Can be big and athletic all you want, do not mean you will be really good.

The bad boys would without a doubt make the USA Team now, and say they would not because you got guys like Iggy on the squad, and the Rodman was a better defensive player than Tyson Chandler. Like what Charles Barkley said only 5 guys on this olympics team would even have a shot at make the dream team, thats LBJ, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and Carmelo Anthony.

way to use hyperbole and nothing of substance in your argument. first you misquoted barkley, second you keep bringing up the bad boys (are you from detroit or something?) they didn't make the team, even with their head coach as the head coach, they didn't make the team.

and you're telling me you think magic wouldn't be a defensive liability against paul or westbrook? that barkley who is 3 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter than love would still lead the team in scoring? telling me a younger, stronger, faster, more athletic lebron james would have no chance against jordan? who do you put pippen on? lebron? durant? kobe?

i'll take iggy this year over a broken larry bird in his 30s. if these teams played, iggy could at least lock up somebody, bird would never hit the floor, too much of a liability.

aside from jordan, and maybe, MAYBE a slight advantage at center, the dream team has nothing of substance.

the 96 team would destroy the dream team, the redeem team would destroy the dream team. they had over the hill stars. way out of their prime. the greatest names in basketball played on that team, but at that point they weren't the greatest players.

actually consider the matchups before you scoff and move on. just think for once.

Diablo · 07-17-2012, 11:12 AM

Andray amnestied. Good riddance.

Fresh Prince · 07-17-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

way to use hyperbole and nothing of substance in your argument. first you misquoted barkley, second you keep bringing up the bad boys (are you from detroit or something?) they didn't make the team, even with their head coach as the head coach, they didn't make the team.

and you're telling me you think magic wouldn't be a defensive liability against paul or westbrook? that barkley who is 3 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter than love would still lead the team in scoring? telling me a younger, stronger, faster, more athletic lebron james would have no chance against jordan? who do you put pippen on? lebron? durant? kobe?

i'll take iggy this year over a broken larry bird in his 30s. if these teams played, iggy could at least lock up somebody, bird would never hit the floor, too much of a liability.

aside from jordan, and maybe, MAYBE a slight advantage at center, the dream team has nothing of substance.

the 96 team would destroy the dream team, the redeem team would destroy the dream team. they had over the hill stars. way out of their prime. the greatest names in basketball played on that team, but at that point they weren't the greatest players.

actually consider the matchups before you scoff and move on. just think for once.

I'm talking about if all the Dream Team players were in there prime, not over the hill. They would not get destroyed then, they would beat the 96 team, redeem team and this years team.

FranklinTard · 07-18-2012, 12:30 AM

so you are talking about a hypothetical, the dream team was what it was, magic and bird were shells of themselves. would get worked.

hill to the clips.

Tornado · 07-18-2012, 07:50 AM

The Dream Team had a huge advantage in '92 - basketball wasn't really a global game yet and the competition just wasn't there. To be completely honest, I'm not even sure the '92 Dream Team would be able to beat some of the other countries in the 2012 games this year, much less the 2012 USA team. Jordan would be a handful, but who would be covering LeBron, Durant, CP3, Deron, Westbrook, etc? Athletes today are faster, stronger, more explosive, etc. It's a fact. I'm going to break down each member of the 1992 Dream Team and how I think they would translate into 2012:

Michael Jordan: Transcendent, obviously still an amazing player in today's competition.
Magic Johnson: In his prime he might be a handful on offense, but this was a Magic who had been away from the game for a full year. Not to mention the fact that he was an abysmal defender. There's a great story about a game from the early 90's in which the Lakers were playing the Warriors, both teams kinda stopped guarding Magic and Chris Mullin because they were covering each other and just assumed they'd cancel each other out (both had like 45 points).
Larry Bird: Another outstanding player, but this was a Larry with a bad back at the end of his career because he spent it playing nearly 40 minutes a night. He's still a top marksman here, but no match for the athleticism of the 2012 team.
Charles Barkley: Very undersized and a poor defender, but I think Chuck probably still does okay on this team. He was very athletic and an outstanding rebounder, those skills would translate into 2012 competition.
Patrick Ewing: A decent defender (his stats are better than he was), but had no ability to react to defenses and considered himself a jump shooter... which unless you're named Dirk, no 7'footer should really be doing that. Ewing was also a guy who had to have the offense run through him, so even on the Dream Team he wasn't really much of a force.
Karl Malone: I think he's one of the few guys on the team who would be just as good against the 2012 team as he was against 1992 competition. The only negative thing I can say is that for his height, he wasn't very agile. And the guys on the 2012 team who are around 6'9" (LeBron, Durant, and Carmelo) are very agile and athletic. My point is that he was a great defender in 1992, but I don't know how well he could cover some of the guys on the 2012 team.
John Stockton: I don't have much to say about Stockton. Hard nosed player, great passer, good shooter, but nowhere near quick enough to contend with CP3, Westbrook, or Deron. He would get blown by on every single play.
Scottie Pippen: Another guy who I think would do very well against the 2012 competition, but he's just one man. Like Franklin said earlier, stick him on LeBron or Durant, great! But who is covering the other guy?
David Robinson: Great player, holds up well against 2012 competition. He never had much of a mean streak nor did he ever feel comfortable being the #1 guy on a team, which is a problem he didn't have on the Dream Team. But that says a lot about his personality because both of these teams are full of guys who want the ball at all times. I think he's a great player and he would do well, but I think there's also a chance he could get eaten alive.
Clyde Drexler: Wouldn't see a lot of playing time in this kind of competition with Jordan on the team, but he never had an understanding of how a game flows. When the Blazers played Jordan's Bulls in the Finals in 1992, Jordan had his famous 'six 3-pointers in the first half' game. Halfway through that run, Clyde brought the ball up court and fired up his own 3-pointer, only to airball it. He just never had a solid understanding of what his role in a game should be, and frankly I think he gets destroyed in 2012. He's also a bit undersized compared to the players who'll be guarding him.
Chris Mullin: Similar to Magic. Great on offense, terrible on defense. Also, his stats are not a great example of how good he was. In the early 90's, Mullin played with Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, and a handful of role players. Of course Mullin, a sharpshooter, is going to average 25 points a game! But if you look at his stats, as soon as the league started becoming more athletic, he became less of a force.
Christian Laettner: All I will say is that I never understood why he was chosen over Shaq. I understand wanting to go with at least one college player so I'm not really blaming Laettner for anything nor am I really going to talk negatively about him, but I still think Shaq should have taken the final spot. And honestly, with Shaq, we might be having a different conversation here. Maybe.

Anyway, to summarize, I don't think the 1992 team would beat the 2012 team. In fact I'd bet almost anything on the 2012 team winning a 7 game series.

FranklinTard · 07-18-2012, 10:31 AM

i really do think the redeem team would stomp both though really. had kobe in his prime, howard was on the team, odom for some size, lebron even younger and more athletic, wade running around. they woulda smashed the dream team.

Tornado · 07-18-2012, 10:48 AM

Odom wasn't on the Redeem Team... I think he was on the 2004 team that took bronze though.

It's a horse a piece between the 2008 and 2012 teams. The 2008 team had Dwight and Wade, definitely. But they also had Boozer (who I suppose was decent at that point in time, not exactly Olympic level though) and Tayshaun Prince (who I've never liked). Whereas the 2012 team is missing Dwight, Wade, Rose, and now Blake. But they still have Durant, Westbrook, and Kevin Love. Too bad Bynum shot down his invite, would have been a much more solid team with him on it.

FranklinTard · 07-18-2012, 11:01 AM

prince in his prime was awesome. nobody better defensively and could create his own shot and shoot the 3. and you put d will in the lineup with boozer and run the pick n roll, nothing more effective. boozer was a 22-12 guy on the jazz with willams and the pick and roll.

also funny to see michael redd on the team, i mean, honestly, michael redd. dude was a stud for a minute though.

DarthVader 2004 · 07-18-2012, 02:45 PM

I think you guys are insane about this subject but your are entitled to this opinion.

bbf2 · 07-18-2012, 04:30 PM

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John Stockton: I don't have much to say about Stockton. Hard nosed player, great passer, good shooter, but nowhere near quick enough to contend with CP3, Westbrook, or Deron. He would get blown by on every single play.

Stockton wouldn't get blown by, he would trip them or hit them illegally with his elbows.

Tornado · 07-18-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I think you guys are insane about this subject but your are entitled to this opinion.

So instead of providing an argument, you just say we're insane? Provide reasoning or get lost.

Fresh Prince · 07-19-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklinTard

prince in his prime was awesome. nobody better defensively and could create his own shot and shoot the 3. and you put d will in the lineup with boozer and run the pick n roll, nothing more effective. boozer was a 22-12 guy on the jazz with willams and the pick and roll.

also funny to see michael redd on the team, i mean, honestly, michael redd. dude was a stud for a minute though.

You think the 08 team and 2012 team could beat the 96 team?

DarthVader 2004 · 07-19-2012, 04:37 PM

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So instead of providing an argument, you just say we're insane? Provide reasoning or get lost.

Jordan, Malone, Pippin, Ewing, Barkely and Stockton on the same team is all a reason I need. I prefer the 90s players because thats my Genra as B-Ball fan. You guys are welcome to like the 08 and 12 teams. But I just like the orginial Dream Team no matter what.

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07-14-2012, 10:59 AM	#104
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,805	i was watching the one where the biggest dudes had a fraction of the muscles todays players do, they were lanky, flailing arms all over the place kinda players. they didn't play defense. they averaged more points for a reason, and it wasn't athleticism i'll tell you that. a rising tide lifts all boats, all the players today are more athletic than players yesterday, both defensively and offensively. watch classic games. how many bad boys were on the dream team prince? how many? now how does your point make any sense? this years team would laugh at their supposed 'athletes'. again, i'll just agree to disagree. and vader... no. the 0-16 lions team would stomp all over championship teams from the 70s and 80s. 300 lbs was big for the fridge, people thought he was a freak of nature, name 1 team without multiple 300 lb guys... just one. and lets not forget the dream teams competition, sybonis in lithuania, kukoc and petrovic for croatia. the only 3 nba caliber players in the entire tournament. spain alone has six nba players today. argentina and greece have their fair share these days too. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891) Last edited by FranklinTard; 07-14-2012 at 11:10 AM.

07-15-2012, 07:55 AM	#105
Diablo RG3 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 17,132	Watching some of the summer league play. Beal looks legit. Saw a little of Lamb play against Wiz yesterday, that dude is going to be good. __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

07-15-2012, 11:48 AM	#106
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,805	yea i like his potential a lot, but he is going to the magic obviously. that deal is way too good for the magic to pass up. rockets will have ruined their franchise for like 5 years if they go through with that deal next week. don't get rid of lamb, parsons, or white. parsons is a lanky white dude that can play both sides of the ball, and i just think white and lamb have pretty decent futures. and did i mention the knicks aren't keeping lin? i knew that was too much money to give to a guy who has a resume of 1 month. damn you morey. damn you. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891) Last edited by FranklinTard; 07-15-2012 at 12:07 PM.

07-15-2012, 10:53 PM	#107
Diablo RG3 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 17,132	Yup I saw that the Knicks aren't going to match the offer. As for Houston trading, is this the same guy who traded Gay for Battier? But yeah Houston has a good crop of young guys . Do you think if they get Dwight it will be anything more than a one year rental? __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

07-13-2012, 01:09 PM	#101
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,616	Its not about who is right or wrong here. Its about the fact that people over time forget greatness that was the players during the 90s. Yes its a faster game now but these new sports athelets have no respect for the players that shed blood sweat and tears to make the NFL, MLB and NBA what it is today.

07-16-2012, 10:47 AM	#109
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,805	gotta love how marc stein said knicks would match up to 1 billion dollars, what an idiot. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

07-16-2012, 11:42 PM	#112
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,616	Howard is not going to commit to the Rockets if he won't wanna play for the Magic. I think he is over rated to be honest.

07-17-2012, 11:12 AM	#114
Diablo RG3 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 17,132	Andray amnestied. Good riddance. __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

07-18-2012, 12:30 AM	#116
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,805	so you are talking about a hypothetical, the dream team was what it was, magic and bird were shells of themselves. would get worked. hill to the clips. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

07-18-2012, 07:50 AM	#117
Tornado I am busy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 32,407	The Dream Team had a huge advantage in '92 - basketball wasn't really a global game yet and the competition just wasn't there. To be completely honest, I'm not even sure the '92 Dream Team would be able to beat some of the other countries in the 2012 games this year, much less the 2012 USA team. Jordan would be a handful, but who would be covering LeBron, Durant, CP3, Deron, Westbrook, etc? Athletes today are faster, stronger, more explosive, etc. It's a fact. I'm going to break down each member of the 1992 Dream Team and how I think they would translate into 2012: Michael Jordan: Transcendent, obviously still an amazing player in today's competition. Magic Johnson: In his prime he might be a handful on offense, but this was a Magic who had been away from the game for a full year. Not to mention the fact that he was an abysmal defender. There's a great story about a game from the early 90's in which the Lakers were playing the Warriors, both teams kinda stopped guarding Magic and Chris Mullin because they were covering each other and just assumed they'd cancel each other out (both had like 45 points). Larry Bird: Another outstanding player, but this was a Larry with a bad back at the end of his career because he spent it playing nearly 40 minutes a night. He's still a top marksman here, but no match for the athleticism of the 2012 team. Charles Barkley: Very undersized and a poor defender, but I think Chuck probably still does okay on this team. He was very athletic and an outstanding rebounder, those skills would translate into 2012 competition. Patrick Ewing: A decent defender (his stats are better than he was), but had no ability to react to defenses and considered himself a jump shooter... which unless you're named Dirk, no 7'footer should really be doing that. Ewing was also a guy who had to have the offense run through him, so even on the Dream Team he wasn't really much of a force. Karl Malone: I think he's one of the few guys on the team who would be just as good against the 2012 team as he was against 1992 competition. The only negative thing I can say is that for his height, he wasn't very agile. And the guys on the 2012 team who are around 6'9" (LeBron, Durant, and Carmelo) are very agile and athletic. My point is that he was a great defender in 1992, but I don't know how well he could cover some of the guys on the 2012 team. John Stockton: I don't have much to say about Stockton. Hard nosed player, great passer, good shooter, but nowhere near quick enough to contend with CP3, Westbrook, or Deron. He would get blown by on every single play. Scottie Pippen: Another guy who I think would do very well against the 2012 competition, but he's just one man. Like Franklin said earlier, stick him on LeBron or Durant, great! But who is covering the other guy? David Robinson: Great player, holds up well against 2012 competition. He never had much of a mean streak nor did he ever feel comfortable being the #1 guy on a team, which is a problem he didn't have on the Dream Team. But that says a lot about his personality because both of these teams are full of guys who want the ball at all times. I think he's a great player and he would do well, but I think there's also a chance he could get eaten alive. Clyde Drexler: Wouldn't see a lot of playing time in this kind of competition with Jordan on the team, but he never had an understanding of how a game flows. When the Blazers played Jordan's Bulls in the Finals in 1992, Jordan had his famous 'six 3-pointers in the first half' game. Halfway through that run, Clyde brought the ball up court and fired up his own 3-pointer, only to airball it. He just never had a solid understanding of what his role in a game should be, and frankly I think he gets destroyed in 2012. He's also a bit undersized compared to the players who'll be guarding him. Chris Mullin: Similar to Magic. Great on offense, terrible on defense. Also, his stats are not a great example of how good he was. In the early 90's, Mullin played with Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, and a handful of role players. Of course Mullin, a sharpshooter, is going to average 25 points a game! But if you look at his stats, as soon as the league started becoming more athletic, he became less of a force. Christian Laettner: All I will say is that I never understood why he was chosen over Shaq. I understand wanting to go with at least one college player so I'm not really blaming Laettner for anything nor am I really going to talk negatively about him, but I still think Shaq should have taken the final spot. And honestly, with Shaq, we might be having a different conversation here. Maybe. Anyway, to summarize, I don't think the 1992 team would beat the 2012 team. In fact I'd bet almost anything on the 2012 team winning a 7 game series. __________________ MY BLU-RAY COLLECTION Last edited by Tornado; 07-18-2012 at 10:39 AM.

07-18-2012, 10:31 AM	#118
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,805	i really do think the redeem team would stomp both though really. had kobe in his prime, howard was on the team, odom for some size, lebron even younger and more athletic, wade running around. they woulda smashed the dream team. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

07-18-2012, 10:48 AM	#119
Tornado I am busy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 32,407	Odom wasn't on the Redeem Team... I think he was on the 2004 team that took bronze though. It's a horse a piece between the 2008 and 2012 teams. The 2008 team had Dwight and Wade, definitely. But they also had Boozer (who I suppose was decent at that point in time, not exactly Olympic level though) and Tayshaun Prince (who I've never liked). Whereas the 2012 team is missing Dwight, Wade, Rose, and now Blake. But they still have Durant, Westbrook, and Kevin Love. Too bad Bynum shot down his invite, would have been a much more solid team with him on it. __________________ MY BLU-RAY COLLECTION

07-18-2012, 11:01 AM	#120
FranklinTard Gangsta White Walls Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,805	prince in his prime was awesome. nobody better defensively and could create his own shot and shoot the 3. and you put d will in the lineup with boozer and run the pick n roll, nothing more effective. boozer was a 22-12 guy on the jazz with willams and the pick and roll. also funny to see michael redd on the team, i mean, honestly, michael redd. dude was a stud for a minute though. __________________ Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed. -Herman Melville (1819 - 1891) Last edited by FranklinTard; 07-18-2012 at 11:03 AM.

07-18-2012, 02:45 PM	#121
DarthVader 2004 Executive Producer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Virginia Posts: 13,616	I think you guys are insane about this subject but your are entitled to this opinion.