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Sam Raimi Spider Man movies - Meh
Transformers trilogy - Meh This movie - blah
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What This movie does that Raimi's did not was made Spidey more human and less a hero. I liked that this Spider-Man did not master his web slinging till the end. I liked that you saw Spider-Man get beat up. Raimi like most hero movies play these people tough and never getting beat up. Nolans Batman showed it was ok to show the hero gets beat up and hurt and in This Spider-Man is beat up and I like that he needs Gwen more then she maybe needs him.
I don't mean this in a bad way. I mean its the sweet bond they have that even the hero needs a women to tell him how to do things the right way. |
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People need to except that Spider-Man has to be made or Sony looses its rights and someone somewhere would redo Spider-Man. Try and embrace new ideas for Spider-Man. This movie is not perfect but nor is it this years worst tragedy. Whats this years tragedy is. It looks like Avengers and TDKR is really the only great movies this year until we get Skyfall and The Hobbit Part 1. I mean many said this would be such a big great year. Avengers and Hunger Games is really this years best profitable films. Everything else is either breaking even or sucking wind. |
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...you basically just admitted this is a watered down BATMAN BEGINS.
And have you not seen how messed up Spidey's costumes were at the end of the Raimi films? |
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Yeah, because meh = love. I think you need to stop trying to defend this movie by attacking those who have a different opinion than you do. I didn't care too much for the Sam Raimi movies, but they were OK. This irritated me due to reasons I specified in my review. Before you go around throwing everyone into the same category and stating that people didn't like it due to the same reason, you should maybe come out of your box and listen to what they're saying.
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Muwahahaha!...Hamster.
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There's alot to like about Raimi's first two movies, and especially Spider-man 2 as he did a spectacular job at bringing out Dock Ock.
This movie was a different take but no less Spider-man. Some are saying it's as dark as Batman, but it's not really. Anyway, Spider-man has had his dark eras as well, and tackled tough subject matter. He's a character with flaws and problems. Darkness - early Spider-man comic books show one of his favorite tactics was to strike fear in thugs, by doing things like flashing his Spider Signal against a wall to shake crooks up. He's also dangled plenty of people over ledges and even dropped and then caught them with his webs - all to scare the daylights out of them so they'll blab the information he's looking for. Flaws and problems - He's been depressed a lot of times, he gets angry from time to time. He's got family problems - he's always tried to help out Aunt May - especially with finances - and has tried many different things to try to earn extra money for her only to become frustrated when things fall through. He's dealt with the death of people close to him, being labeled a criminal for quite some time before he got a pardon, he's dealt with drug abuse issues, physical abuse issues, - he's even been buried alive. He has his good moments as well, great and noble moments - he's helped a lot of people anonymously, helped kids get on the right path, and always tried to save the day no matter what personal cost he's faced. And he has found happy times personally and professionally. Spider-man/Peter Parker isn't just any one thing - he's been through a lot. None of the movies has been perfect but there's a lot to like in all of them (less so with #3 but some alright things are in there) and I did enjoy this one for different reasons. Oh, and about some of the CGI comments - Webb hired a few acrobats to capture as much of Spider-man's real movements as possible Meanwhile the movie has a 74% approval on rotten tomatoes
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Yeah but katie perrys 3d movie has a 75% and magic mike has a 79%
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Flawed Design
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Ewok Droppings, slinger 7 Fanible, Hward99, IAmARevenant, Obscure Jack, Wyldstaar 8 Alien, HOLLYWOOD, JackBauer, JGBarnes, morpheus1987, Ramplate, RedVader 2004, SnoBorderZero, sshuttari 9 Daniel, New GL of sector 2814, Nilade, ViRUs 10 ScottysAir The majority of the ratings on the poll are above average and higher. To call this movie **** is a matter of opinion and completely subjective. From what I am seeing, plenty of regulars from the board gave it high marks. I'm ok with someone saying they didn't enjoy this movie, but calling it a ****ty movie is just a tad bit self-serving. Your opinion is your opinion, and it matters and it counts, but it doesn't determine the quality of a movie. That is up to the individual in the seat watching it unless the overwhelming majority leans one way or the other. From what I'm seeing, they're leaning toward the positive.
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I was a 5.5/10 and rounded it up to 6, but I'm on the fence as to whether it was really more a 6 or a 5. I gave it the benefit of the doubt. I don't know who's calling it a sh**y movie - I just have some major problems with how inconsistent it was and some of the things they decided to do. As a non-comic book fan/non spider-man fan, I couldn't care less about the fanboi part of which film is better, blah blah. I look at it from pure entertainment goggles.
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Muwahahaha!...Hamster.
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Yeah I generally round up too,
I left out that Peter was also worried mostly about making sure Aunt May didn't have a heart attack Ok so Sally Fields doesn't look like she's gonna have a heart attack, but both actresses who have had the role do an awesome job with the part.
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Muwahahaha!...Hamster.
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At the End of Spider-Man 1 yes. But the beating he took he should have looked much worse and the next scene he was healed and fine. This spider-man you saw his battle wounds lasting and I liked the human frailty in this compared to heroes. I liked Raimis films fine. This however seemed more grounded in reality.
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Muwahahaha!...Hamster.
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Spidey has a regeneration factor, super durability and endurance as well
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I know what he has I just didn't start knowing the character 3 weeks ago. I fallowed all the cartoons very well. I know Spider-Man heals quickly and so on but my point was i like it when they make the superhero more human. This can be a mutant or mega hero. When they add realisum to characters. Is when I like the movie more.
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Not every hero needs "realism".
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This "realism" is a trend. It'll eventually die down.
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The Avengers, more or less, killed the realism trend.
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Finally saw this movie(Bootleg copy), and i gotta say i really liked it. I was surprised at how much i enjoyed it. You can tell they went for a similar approach as Nolan in terms of mood and a more grounded world compared to the very comic booky feel of Raimis films, but i actually liked this version better than the Raimi ones. Maybe its because i am older now, but Raimis films are entertaining , but thats it, a bit to campy for me at times.
First and foremost the main reason this movie works is because of the 2 leads of this movie, Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone, they were outstanding in this movie. I always feel the love interest or in general the romantic part of a comic book/super hero movie is always the worst, hell even Nolans Batman films have had this same flaw, but man they NAILED it in this movie, they had amazing chemistry with each other and it was a lot of fun to watch them interact. Yeah Gwen Stacy, like someone else stated, did feel a bit "forced" into the plot, but i didn't mind because Emma Stone was a delight to watch, she was great. It had the best romance/love interest since Superman 1, they were that good imo. And speaking of Superman 1, just like Christopher Reeve totally emobodied Clark Kent/Superman, Andrew Garfield does the same with Peter Parker/Spider-man. He is ten times better than Tobey Mcguires Spider-man, who lets be honest, he was appreciated more for the fact of being the first person to play Spider-man in a big budget Hollywood movie. Garfield IS PP/SM to me, he was perfect and i found him to be just as entertaining as RDJ Tony Stark/IM, he was that good. While i did enjoy it , there was some obvious flaws, like others have mentioned the pacing was a bit off, also the action scenes weren't all that great. I would also say it's a bit to similar as the first Spider-man, i mean there almost identical in the first half except different actors,characters and some slight changes. I thought Uncle Bens death wasn't as impactful as Uncle Bens death in Ramis Spider-man, in Raimis one it was a bit more tragic, because Uncle Ben was simply sitting in his car and was shot, while in this version apparently Uncle Ben has seen one to many action movies and foolishly decided to get him self involved with the robber. Also while i personally enjoyed Curt Connors/Lizard, i can see why a lot of people on here weren't that impressed, i said before this movie came out that Lizard just isn't a very interesting villain for a 2 hour long movie, a giant talking lizard is ok in a comic book, but on the big screen? It seems a bit stupid. Overall i really liked this movie, they def need to make some changes for the sequel, but it's kinda of a shame this movie isn't getting the attention it should be getting, but to be honest i don't think this movie really got people back into a Spider-man frenzy, between Nolans Batman films, the Marvel Studios films, it seems like Spider-man has been kinda of left out as the odd man out. 8/10 |
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Ok, now this is getting ridiculous.
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huh?
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I am busy.
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I'm surprised Sno gave this an 8/10. Nothing against Sno or the film itself, it just doesn't seem like the type of film he would give a decent/high rating to.
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Yeah Sno is genetally brutal with comic book movies. Should be interesting to see his review for the other comic book movie.
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I posted my review a few pages back, but I think people mistake me for not enjoying summer blockbusters, which isn't true at all. I love a popcorn flick when it's done right, it's just that the majority of them are not. I can find greatness in a wide range of films, and I reward films positive scores on an even level of critique. Yes the film has its flaws, certainly, but there's a lot of elements it gets right especially the strong cast and some great shots by Webb as well. As for comic book films, I gave "Batman Begins", "Spider-Man 2", and "The Dark Knight" 9's and consider them the standard that movies like "The Avengers" fall well short of. It all comes down to execution, and I'm never hesitant to give 9's and 10's out to movies that deserve them and I'm very excited for "Dark Knight Rises" because it's 100% going to top this film.
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For you an 8/10 is like a 10/10 for everyone else. But ironically I too gave it an 8/10. Its not as horrible as people are saying. The whole Norman Osbourn dying deal is new. Its clearly leading up to Osborne Becoming the Green Goblin. Because he takes an un tested serum likely.
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![]() Spider-Man is a douche.
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