sshuttari's Top 10 Things I give a F**K About!

[sshuttari]

The list says it all... This way you can learn a bit about my crazy world and what goes on in my head possibly??? Nahhhh who am I kidding... Anyway...


Top 10 Most Important UFO Incidents in History




10. California and the Midwest “Airship” Sightings, 1896-97






many people know that seeing unidentified lights in the sky goes back over a century, when the first UFO “flap” (a grouping of UFO sightings made over a specific area within a few months) occurred over a hundred years ago in the waning years of the nineteenth century. It all began when a mysterious unidentified light was observed by hundreds of people moving slowly over Sacramento, California in November, 1896, apparently moving against the wind at a leisurely thirty miles an hour. It was seen again a week later, this time over San Francisco; by the end of the year hundreds of reports of the thing were coming in from all over the Pacific coast, creating a media frenzy. After a two-month absence during the winter of 1896-97, the mysterious object—described by some witnesses as being suspended beneath a dark, cigar-shaped craft—reappeared over the Midwest, where it was reportedly seen from Nebraska to Michigan and from Minnesota to Texas before abruptly disappearing for good in April of 1897. Though generally dismissed by modern skeptics as an example of media-driven mass hysteria (perhaps helped along by sightings of the planet Venus), the sheer number of reports—several thousand by some estimates—makes it unlikely it was nothing more than the press having a good laugh. Some have even suggested the intriguing possibility it may have been an early airship making its appearance years before the Wright Brother’s plane ever flew—making it more terrestrial than extraterrestrial in nature (and evidence of a nascent technology emerging years before it was supposed to). In any case, “the great airship of 1897”—or whatever it was—remains as much a mystery today as it did in our great, great grandparent’s day.

9. Washington, DC Sightings, 1952



In 1952 Washington, D.C. was all abuzz when ground controllers at Washington National Airport (now Reagan International Airport) spotted multiple targets on their radars as well as observed glowing orbs of light on the horizon, prompting the Air Force to launch fighters in a futile attempt to close with the objects. The incident, which took place on two consecutive weekends between July 13 and July 29, 1952, even got the President’s attention and had almost immediate repercussions. Deciding that the best defense was a strong offense, the government implemented something called the Robertson Panel. The Robertson Panel was a committee of prominent scientists appointed to spend two days examining the “best” UFO cases collected by Project Blue Book (an eighteen-year-long Air Force study that was to look into more than 12,000 UFO reports before it was discontinued in 1969). They promptly concluded that the Air Force and Project Blue Book needed to spend less time analyzing and studying UFO reports and more time publicly debunking them. Unfortunately, this decision to debunk rather than investigate has haunted the government ever since and remains the chief reason “official” government explanations generally fall upon deaf ears to this day.

[Tornado]

Wow, everybody is just creating one of these threads now, huh?

This gives me an idea...

[sshuttari]

Does this idea consist of you creating a top 10 thread

[DarthVader 2004]

I think everyone should have there own style of a Thread. We should just agree to take part in each CS members top 10 thread.

On the subject at hand do you guys really believe in aliens. Or is these UFOs just more government secrets in out doing another Gov spy technology

[Neverending]

Interesting first list.

[Deexan]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

On the subject at hand do you guys really believe in aliens. Or is these UFOs just more government secrets in out doing another Gov spy technology

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." - Arthur C. Clarke

I don't think many people would argue against the fact that alien life exists elsewhere in the universe, it's just a matter of when we find it rather than if.

I doubt we'll discover 'intelligent' life any time soon though.

As for believing in visitation, I guess anything's possible; if a race were as little as 1000 years more advanced than us you'd think they'd have the technology to A) discover us and B) travel here. But the fact that there are so many reports of alien UFOs but so little concrete evidence suggests that it's unlikely that they have done so.

[Tornado]

I believe in aliens and I think they've been here. I'd bet almost anything on it, quite honestly.

[Ramplate]

With all the possibilities in all the galaxies - there's no way we're the only ones.

[Neverending]

We're obviously not alone. It's very egotiscal to think so. But have we been visited? Tough to say. If we have, then why has contact never been established?

[Tornado]

For all we know we're like ants to them. We don't try and socialize with the ants here, why would they socialize with us? Maybe they come here every now and then to study us, and then they leave. Hard to say.

[Doomsday]

There's no way aliens exist. They aren't mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

[PG Cooper]

Lol.

[JBond]

Originally Posted by Deexan

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." - Arthur C. Clarke

That's one of my favorite quotes.

Having said that, I don't think we've been visited. At all.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by Tornado

We don't try and socialize with the ants here

But we do step on ants and ants do like to bite us. So, there is interaction between us and ants. So, if aliens have indeed visited, there would be some form of interaction.

[DarthVader 2004]

Do I believe there are Alien Aliens that will make my chest burst open no. I think there are more intelligent aliens and are likely a bit more peaceful then Hollywood displays. I do think one day we will mess up and welcome the wrong aliens.

Its human foolishness to assume God or The Big Bang created endless planets and so on just for us to look at through a telescope. I do however believe each planet can have its own life. We need Oxygen but that doesn't mean all inteligent life does.

[DarthVader 2004]

Originally Posted by Doomsday

There's no way aliens exist. They aren't mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

I do however believe its said in the bible that there will be things you will see and will never be able to explain.

[Tornado]

Maybe the aliens haven't tried to step on us yet.

[Neverending]

[sshuttari]

Who the heck is that...

[FranklinTard]

how do you start a ufo list without consulting ancient aliens on history channel?

[sshuttari]

Easy I don't pay much attention to History channel.... Because I don't watch a lot of TV in general

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I think everyone should have there own style of a Thread. We should just agree to take part in each CS members top 10 thread.

On the subject at hand do you guys really believe in aliens. Or is these UFOs just more government secrets in out doing another Gov spy technology

I think UFO's are interesting nobody really has hard evidence to prove that they are Aliens but at the same time nobody can really explain what they are... Which makes it fun for me...

But as far as Aliens go a million galaxies or something and no other life besides us.... Now that makes me laugh... Even if Intelligent life has a small chance of existing the idea it doesn't exist at all is pretty far fetched.

[sshuttari]

8. Phoenix Lights, 1997




Probably one of the more famous recent incidents due to the large number of witnesses involved (including, apparently, the Governor of the state), the citizens of Arizona watched as a series of lights—along with a very large triangular shaped saucer—were seen hovering silently in the skies over their fair state for nearly three hours on the evening of March 13, 1997. Some of the lights were later explained away as flared dropped by A-10 Warthogs on training exercises southwest of the city, though what the big triangular ship might have been remains unexplained (some skeptics have suggested aircraft flying in formation). Whatever they were, however, they did not make a return appearance, leaving the people of Phoenix and the world scratching their collective heads and creating a media-driven phenomenon that remains fiercely debated to this day.

7. Kecksburg, Pennsylvania UFO Crash, 1965




On December 9, 1965, a large, brilliant fireball was seen by thousands in at least six states and Ontario, Canada as it streaked through the night sky, eventually coming down somewhere near the small Pennsylvania town of Kecksburg. Assumed at the time to be an especially large fireball (a meteor of unusual brightness), residents were concerned when the army quickly converged on the area and were seen to haul away some kind of bell shaped craft from the woods, again fueling speculation that the government was up to its old tricks again. Some later speculated it was a crashed Soviet satellite, though this remains hotly disputed by ufologists to this day. However, it should be noted that recovering a Soviet satellite during the height of the Cold War would explain the reason for the heavy-handed army presence and the secrecy; of course, so would a crashed Venusian saucer, so the debate continues.

[DarthVader 2004]

You best have Roswell somewhere because thats the most famous sitings. UFO stuff is fun for me and so is Bigfoot stuff. Anyone watch finding bigfoot.

[sshuttari]

6. Mantell Incident, 1948




In what might be the first fatality directly attributed to an unidentified flying object, Air National Guard pilot Captain Thomas F. Mantell crashed his P-51 fighter while in pursuit of an unusual object in the skies over Kentucky on January 7, 1948. Flying without oxygen at high altitude in pursuit of a “silver disk shaped” craft, he apparently blacked out when he tried to get closer to whatever the thing was, with tragic consequences. Later investigation suggests that what Captain Mantell may have been chasing was actually a large Skyhook weather balloon, which can take on a disk-like appearance when seen from below and has a highly reflective silvery surface to boot. If that’s the case, then Mantell was a victim of his own zeal and disregard for Air Force procedures in flying above his safe maximum altitude, demonstrating that presumption may be more dangerous than extraterrestrials. The incident did manage to change the public perceptions of UFOs, however, leading some people to see the alien visitors as potentially dangerous rather than the fun-loving little green men they had been assumed to be up to then.

5. Barney and Betty Hill Abduction, 1961



In the first of the abduction incidents (but definitely not the last) on the evening of September 19, 1961, Betty and Barney Hill spotted what they believed was a UFO while they drove down a lonely stretch of road near Groveton, New Hampshire. Though they couldn’t consciously recall what happened after that (and were missing several hours, for which they couldn’t account) for weeks afterwards they each complained of having frightening dreams about being prodded and poked by “grey aliens” as part of some sort of bizarre medical examination before being released. The nightmares became so acute they eventually sought help and were eventually hypnotized and interviewed by a Doctor Benjamin Simon of Boston, who concluded the couple may have been significantly influenced by a television episode featuring humanoid aliens they saw a few weeks before their “encounter” and were innocently fantasizing the event, though he also admitted that did not satisfactorily explain every aspect of their case. Whether the victims of an overactive imagination (the couple were noted for their eccentricities) or genuine abductees, the case remains a source of considerable debate to this day, and probably laid the groundwork for the more spectacular Travis Walton

[sshuttari]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

You best have Roswell somewhere because thats the most famous sitings. UFO stuff is fun for me and so is Bigfoot stuff. Anyone watch finding bigfoot.

Can I at least finish the list first before deciding what I missed and what you decided to disagree with