Official 2011-2012 NBA Thread

[Fresh Prince]

I want a 7 game series like Bos/Miami, but with them all being as close as they have been so far.

[Fresh Prince]

But what if the heat don't win it this year, you think its now or never?

[DarthVader 2004]

I think its unfair that the heat get 3 home games in a row. I think to even things they should do one game at either place.

[Fresh Prince]

But OKC gets 4 home games altogether so I think its fair. Plus if your a true championship team you can win at home or the road regardless.

Plus I want OKC to win this series, I'm on of the people that do not want to see the heat win a title but not cause I dislike the big 3, I'm a fan of Wade, James and Bosh skill level. I just want the competition back in the NBA like you had in the 80s and 90s. I do not want to see in the future of the NBA superstar players playing with each other on the same team so they can win titles. I want guys to try and win by themselves or atleast with 1 other superstar not 2 or more other superstars.

I would just like if NBA teams had 1 or atleast 2 stars on a team, not 3 so the competition level can be high. Guys like Jordan and other superstars back in the day did not want to play with 2 other stars, they wanted to beat those stars so they can prove that was better. Just want to see that type of NBA again.

[DarthVader 2004]

If The Thunder Lose I think it will maybe be a good experiance for them. It will maybe give them drive to win and I think The Thunder while hope they do win. If they loose I think it is experiance that teams needs to be better.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by Fresh Prince

I just want the competition back in the NBA like you had in the 80s and 90s. I do not want to see in the future of the NBA superstar players playing with each other on the same team so they can win titles.

LeBron and Bosh are ridiculously overrated. And, Wade gets injured so much he's never gonna reach his full potential. "The Big 3" is a marketing campaign. Plus, great players have always played together. A decade ago, Shaq and Kobe played on the same team. In the `90s, Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and Dennis Rodman played on the same team. In the `80s, Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabber played on the same team. This whole "big 3" notion is ridiculous and completely over-blown. Three mediocre players got together to form a good-enough team. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[SnoBorderZero]

If you honestly think LeBron, Bosh, and Wade are merely mediocre players, you have no idea what you're talking about. Even Bosh has proven he can anchor the defense down low for the Heat, and can be effective on offense without needing to take shots. When Wade was out, Bosh had some monster games for the Heat. Yes he is the 3rd best player on the team, but unless you're Durant or Kobe you're going to be the 3rd best player on the Heat no matter who you are in the NBA. Yes the attention the Heat get is ridiculous and overblown, but every NBA fan knows those 3 are huge talents and would love to have them on their teams.

[Tornado]

Yeah. It's one thing to call them overrated, but mediocre? No way.

[Fresh Prince]

Originally Posted by Neverending

LeBron and Bosh are ridiculously overrated. And, Wade gets injured so much he's never gonna reach his full potential. "The Big 3" is a marketing campaign. Plus, great players have always played together. A decade ago, Shaq and Kobe played on the same team. In the `90s, Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and Dennis Rodman played on the same team. In the `80s, Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabber played on the same team. This whole "big 3" notion is ridiculous and completely over-blown. Three mediocre players got together to form a good-enough team. Nothing more. Nothing less.

I know star players played before with one another but what I'm saying is I do not like that these guys joined up to take the easy way out of winning a title, instead of trying to compete against one another and win a title. like Jordan and them did back in the day. When Jordan at first could not win a title he did not say screw it and left Chicago, he stayed and won titles.

Sure Shaq left Orlando when he failed to win a title, but when he went to LA they had no superstar player at the time as Kobe was just drafted to the team and did not come into his own until after his rookie season. And Rodman already won a title in Detroit before he even signed with Chicago.

[MasterChief117]

I will agree with one thing, the NBA is not even anywhere as close to what it used to be. I think that is a given, sure but the talent is a lot different. Regardless, Wade, LeBron and Bosh(while I can't stand LeBron) have immense talent. This has been stated, several times by critics and analysts alike who know their ****, but if Wade never had the knee injuries or shoulder injuries, most believe he would be the closest comparison to Michael Jordan. Which makes sense when they're playing styles are very, very similar(as well as their shooting styles, and 3 point struggles). I think all three get their fair share of blame, with Bosh being the only one that never REALLY receives credit. For the longest time, most just said it was they Dynamic Duo, taking Bosh out of the 'big 3'. Bosh is just as vital as Wade and LeBron in their success.

[DarthVader 2004]

The difference is if lets say Wade gets hurt and does not play. That effected Lebron until this finals. I think Lebron needs Wade and Bosh more then they need him. I say this because Lebron until this year plays like a scared rabbit in the really big games.

[Fresh Prince]

Originally Posted by MasterChief117

I will agree with one thing, the NBA is not even anywhere as close to what it used to be. I think that is a given, sure but the talent is a lot different. Regardless, Wade, LeBron and Bosh(while I can't stand LeBron) have immense talent. This has been stated, several times by critics and analysts alike who know their ****, but if Wade never had the knee injuries or shoulder injuries, most believe he would be the closest comparison to Michael Jordan. Which makes sense when they're playing styles are very, very similar(as well as their shooting styles, and 3 point struggles). I think all three get their fair share of blame, with Bosh being the only one that never REALLY receives credit. For the longest time, most just said it was they Dynamic Duo, taking Bosh out of the 'big 3'. Bosh is just as vital as Wade and LeBron in their success.

Talent is still good but the competitive level is not as high as it use to be. Stars back then would rather win title with what they had or bring in better role players than play with another superstar. Only that happened when star got traded to another team with a star or was towards end of their career so they decided to play with another superstar.

LBJ is still young and could of tried to win in Cleveland. I mean outside of Wade and Bosh, the role players Miami have are no better than the role players Cleveland had really.

[bbf2]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

If The Thunder Lose I think it will maybe be a good experiance for them. It will maybe give them drive to win and I think The Thunder while hope they do win. If they loose I think it is experiance that teams needs to be better.

You know what would be an even better experience for them? If they win.

[Neverending]

I said it Sunday and I'll say it again. Heat will win based solely on Free Throws. Oakland is young and inexperienced. They don't know how to play rough basketball without constantly fouling. At the last minute of each game they turn into amateurs. In 5 years, they'll be a great team. But now, nah, too inexperienced.

[Diablo]

Thunder are in the NBA Finals they ARE a great team. Miami is just playing better basketball down the stretch. I said going in Harden would be X factor but he has yet to show up and its hurting them this series.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by Diablo

Thunder are in the NBA Finals they ARE a great team.

I'm talking about the long run. The Heat were a great team in 2006, but were they one in 2007? OKC is young. They have a lot to learn. In 5 years, they'll be a radically different, and much better, team. Unless management screws up.

[DarthVader 2004]

Westbrooks youth is good and bad for the Thunder. He makes tons of points but he has least two big mistakes sometimes that make you have a fit.
Does anyone else think the heat get away with allot more stuff and the Thunder gets calls the heat don't. The heat run and charge into people knocking then down hard allot and yet the other teams gets the whistle.
The Heat seem like a bully team sometimes and they remind me of Jazz and i never liked The Jazz.

[FranklinTard]

they remind me nothing of the pick and roll jazz... and they are juts more aggressive. lebron is a train coming in the paint, durant is more length, keeps taking jump shots, maybe if he gets battier on him he will drive again, but until then, experience is winning out.

[DarthVader 2004]

When I say Jazz i mean the Malone and Stockton Jazz not todays Jazz.

[Fresh Prince]

Yeah the Heat have this series on lock now. No team in NBA history cameback down 3-1 in the NBA Finals.

[Diablo]

New Orleans trades Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza to Washington for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick.


I like the move. I'm pretty sure that means we are taking Beal.


1. Wall/Mack/Crawford
2. Beal/Crawford
3. Ariza/Vesely/Booker/Singleton
4. Nene/Seraphin/Okafor
5. Okafor/Nene/Seraphin

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Playoffs.

[DarthVader 2004]

If The Thunder Lose Should They Trade a Perkins or Ibaka for a Point Guard or Someone who could stuff the middle better then they can. I think the Thunder is almost there. Its just they need experiance and maybe a 3rd Shooter that would keep the mob off of Durant

[Fresh Prince]

I do not see how OKC wins game 5 tomorrow night, I really think Miami will lock this thing down.

[DarthVader 2004]

You never know about games such as these. Its really The Heats game to win or Loose. Champions such as The 90s Bulls and Kobe Lakers know when to be champions. The question is do The Heat.

[Diablo]

Kobe's Lakers was a bad example. See game 6 of the 2008 Finals.