The Dark Knight Rises news and info

[Alien]

Originally Posted by MasterChief117

Batcave indeed.
And new poster...

I love how they've put the Bat-logo in the lipstick.

[DarthVader 2004]

Originally Posted by Tornado

I don't see how that has to do with anything anyone has ever talked about... ever.

The most complaints people have about her as catwomen is that Anne seems to have only done comedies. Selins Kyle she is dead serious at times yes but Catwomen has a playful demeaner when it comes to stealing and around Batman.

I was just trying to say maybe an actress that can do serious but has comedy down is the right mix.
I think people assume Anne cannot do serious stuff in films but truth is she has not had that many jobs that is based on drama.

As for the many posts of people who feel my posts are painful if see I have posted and if my opinions always seem to bother you. I suggest skip my post if i truly give you pain. I am not mad because these are my own opinions and if there not yours then i say let it go and more on.

[sshuttari]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

The most complaints people have about her as catwomen is that Anne seems to have only done comedies.

No. As usual your wrong...

Hathaway has done many serious roles things that got her nominated for awards you just don't watch them or have no idea what your talking about.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by nine1wing

Anyone want to make predictions on what actually happens in the movie? heres mine.

Hard to say really. We've seen a handful of trailers and all kinds of promotional material, but I don't really feel like I know anything about the movie other than the major players in it. I'm not going to spoiler tag this because it's not based on anything other than my observation of what we've seen and how I feel like a Nolan story would develop, but I'll take a shot:

We know there is an eight year gap in between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. I suspect Bruce, succumbing to his guilt over Rachel's death and the ongoing manhunt for Batman, left Gotham in this time to travel the world and pursue other things. I would guess that the film probably picks up with Bruce returning to Gotham to find the city is not in the state of peril he left it in. The Joker is in Arkham, there aren't any other costumed villains running around, Gotham is at peace. The construction at Wayne Manor is complete and there is a new Batcave (as we've seen). Eventually, Bane and his associates (including Catwoman) come to Gotham and cause havoc. They are the League of Shadows, dually led by Bane and Talia al Ghul (posing as Miranda Tate). The League begin rounding up the wealthy to throw in prison. They storm Wayne Manor and probably kill someone close to Bruce (my money is still on Lucius), Bruce fights back but has been out of the game for too long and is rounded up and thrown in Bane's prison along with the rest of Gotham's social elite.

Bane begins terrorizing Gotham, blowing up the football stadium and the bridges and everything like that. He also cripples the police force, putting Gordon in the hospital. Selina Kyle becomes disillusioned with what Bane is doing, and leaves the League in order to find her own way. Bruce and the inmates stage a prison break with the help of Selina, and Bruce dons the batsuit to confront Bane. Bruce, again having been out of the game for too long, is savagely beaten by Bane. Bane leaves Bruce to die, and Bruce is rescued by Selina. Bruce recovers with the help of Selina, and builds an allegiance with her, Gordon, John Blake, and the rest of the Gotham PD. The two forces confront each other, Batman and the police defeat the League and Bruce probably messes with Bane's breathing apparatus killing him.

Bruce plants a story that he was killed in the prison break, and is Batman on a full-time basis.

Now, if you asked me to bet on that story, I wouldn't do it. It's pretty loose and I had to exclude some things from the trailers because I just don't know how they really factor into everything. But I feel like that's a very rough look at how the movie may flow.

[DarthVader 2004]

Originally Posted by sshuttari

No. As usual your wrong...

Hathaway has done many serious roles things that got her nominated for awards you just don't watch them or have no idea what your talking about.

Pay Attention more often and you might understand my alien language. I didn't say it was my opinion of Anne. I said it was some peoples complaints meaning not my own. I never had a problem with her as Catwoman. Same with Ledger as the Joker. I just am not sure if she will be as good as Michelle in Batman Returns.
There are far worse choices i am sure. Its just i kinda have Batman The Animated series Selina in my head which was blonde. And Anne didn't look like that Selina. She however looks great thus far

[Neverending]

My prediction is that Dark Knight Rises comes full circle with Batman Begins. It has already been confirmed that Ra's al Ghul is in the movie via flashbacks. And it's an open secret that Miranda Tate is actually Talia. All we see in the trailers is Talia and Bane finishing what Ra's al Ghul started in Batman Begins.

As for Selina Kyle and John Blake, I think those are sub-plots that eventually connect with the main plot. The way Two-Face eventually connected with the Joker's scheme and Scarecrow/Falcone eventually connected with Ra's al Ghul.

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Pay Attention more often and you might understand my alien language.

Vader, go away.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by Neverending

My prediction is that Dark Knight Rises comes full circle with Batman Begins. It has already been confirmed that Ra's al Ghul is in the movie via flashbacks. And it's an open secret that Miranda Tate is actually Talia. All we see in the trailers is Talia and Bane finishing what Ra's al Ghul started in Batman Begins.

As for Selina Kyle and John Blake, I think those are sub-plots that eventually connect with the main plot. The way Two-Face eventually connected with the Joker's scheme and Scarecrow/Falcone eventually connected with Ra's al Ghul.

Agreed.

[Neverending]

I'm also not expecting anyone important to die. This may be Nolan's final Batman movie but it's definitely not Warner Bros' last one. I think they would want to protect themselves in case they decide to do a 4th installment. Chances are they'll just reboot the series again or just focus on getting Justice League off the ground. But they might still like to keep an option open for a 4th film - just in case.

[Tornado]

I think it depends on what Nolan wanted to do. He represents a pretty important player with Warner Bros., and I don't think they'd want to piss him off. Obviously, Batman is owned by DC and Warner, but Nolan could take his next project elsewhere and they don't want to lose a guaranteed hit like that. As you said, it's clear there will be more Batman movies. But I'm not totally convinced they won't reboot the whole thing and start over in the middle instead of at the beginning (ala jumping in like Burton's films instead of Nolan's).

[JBond]

Originally Posted by Neverending

My prediction is that Dark Knight Rises comes full circle with Batman Begins. It has already been confirmed that Ra's al Ghul is in the movie via flashbacks.

"Does the name "Hans Gruber" mean anything to you?"

[Neverending]

Originally Posted by Tornado

I think it depends on what Nolan wanted to do. He represents a pretty important player with Warner Bros., and I don't think they'd want to piss him off. Obviously, Batman is owned by DC and Warner, but Nolan could take his next project elsewhere and they don't want to lose a guaranteed hit like that. As you said, it's clear there will be more Batman movies. But I'm not totally convinced they won't reboot the whole thing and start over in the middle instead of at the beginning (ala jumping in like Burton's films instead of Nolan's).

It has been rumored/discussed that he would stick around as a producer for future Batman movies. In addition, he's already involved in the Superman franchise. So, I think Nolan is conscience about leaving a few safety nets behind. Right now, Warner Bros. has no definitive plans. At least none that we're aware of. So, the more options open the better. And if Nolan is gonna stick around, he's gonna benefit from it.

[Tornado]

That's true, I had forgotten about those rumors that he would stick around and 'Godfather' any upcoming Batman movies. But at the same time, he strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't want to compromise his vision. If it came down to the choice between completing his trilogy the way he wants to or leaving a little nest egg for the next series of movies... I think he goes with the former. After all, TDKR is the here and now. Any more Batman movies, as likely as they are, are just speculation at this point (as far as we know, anyway).

I also feel that it depends on the significance of the character as you mentioned, but I feel like the inverse of what you meant is true. As I've been talking about, I've got a gut feeling that Lucius is going to die. But if the studio went to Nolan and asked him to keep the character alive, maybe he would compromise because he's not that significant of a character and it doesn't represent that great of a loss to the story. But if Nolan went into TDKR planning to kill off one of Bruce's personas (or the man himself) and the studio wanted to intervene, I think Nolan would fight for that one.

[Neverending]

I think WB would prefer Lucius to die over Bruce Wayne.

[Tornado]

I think so too, but that's not what I meant. I meant that, from Nolan's perspective, I don't think he would put up much of a fight if the studio told him to keep Lucius alive. That death, in my opinion, wouldn't alter the course of the film that much. But if the studio went to Nolan and told him to keep Bruce alive, if Nolan had been planning to kill him off I could see him putting up a fight on that one. Bruce's death would obviously seriously impact the trilogy as a whole and any future Batman movies, and Nolan would probably view altering that impact as detrimental to his vision for the trilogy.

[DarthVader 2004]

Considering Nolan is producing the next Batman film i doubt that they would kill off the character but i do see hims maybe retiring in the end do to the fact that he is unsure if he made any difference.
I do have a question. Who is Blake exactly because in early rumors he was suppose to be Falcone's Son but he appears to be an agent or a cop.

[Fanible]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I do have a question. Who is Blake exactly because in early rumors he was suppose to be Falcone's Son but he appears to be an agent or a cop.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally Posted by JBond

"Does the name "Hans Gruber" mean anything to you?"

Off topic, but... http://www.slashfilm.com/unexpected-...oping-prequel/

Originally Posted by Tornado

Hard to say really. We've seen a handful of trailers and all kinds of promotional material, but I don't really feel like I know anything about the movie other than the major players in it. I'm not going to spoiler tag this because it's not based on anything other than my observation of what we've seen and how I feel like a Nolan story would develop, but I'll take a shot:

We know there is an eight year gap in between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. I suspect Bruce, succumbing to his guilt over Rachel's death and the ongoing manhunt for Batman, left Gotham in this time to travel the world and pursue other things. I would guess that the film probably picks up with Bruce returning to Gotham to find the city is not in the state of peril he left it in. The Joker is in Arkham, there aren't any other costumed villains running around, Gotham is at peace. The construction at Wayne Manor is complete and there is a new Batcave (as we've seen). Eventually, Bane and his associates (including Catwoman) come to Gotham and cause havoc. They are the League of Shadows, dually led by Bane and Talia al Ghul (posing as Miranda Tate). The League begin rounding up the wealthy to throw in prison. They storm Wayne Manor and probably kill someone close to Bruce (my money is still on Lucius), Bruce fights back but has been out of the game for too long and is rounded up and thrown in Bane's prison along with the rest of Gotham's social elite.

Bane begins terrorizing Gotham, blowing up the football stadium and the bridges and everything like that. He also cripples the police force, putting Gordon in the hospital. Selina Kyle becomes disillusioned with what Bane is doing, and leaves the League in order to find her own way. Bruce and the inmates stage a prison break with the help of Selina, and Bruce dons the batsuit to confront Bane. Bruce, again having been out of the game for too long, is savagely beaten by Bane. Bane leaves Bruce to die, and Bruce is rescued by Selina. Bruce recovers with the help of Selina, and builds an allegiance with her, Gordon, John Blake, and the rest of the Gotham PD. The two forces confront each other, Batman and the police defeat the League and Bruce probably messes with Bane's breathing apparatus killing him.

Bruce plants a story that he was killed in the prison break, and is Batman on a full-time basis.

Now, if you asked me to bet on that story, I wouldn't do it. It's pretty loose and I had to exclude some things from the trailers because I just don't know how they really factor into everything. But I feel like that's a very rough look at how the movie may flow.

Cool ideas.

[saveus1011]

Originally Posted by JBond

"Does the name "Hans Gruber" mean anything to you?"

Movies weren't made before 1990.

[Nick1988]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Hard to say really. We've seen a handful of trailers and all kinds of promotional material, but I don't really feel like I know anything about the movie other than the major players in it. I'm not going to spoiler tag this because it's not based on anything other than my observation of what we've seen and how I feel like a Nolan story would develop, but I'll take a shot:

We know there is an eight year gap in between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. I suspect Bruce, succumbing to his guilt over Rachel's death and the ongoing manhunt for Batman, left Gotham in this time to travel the world and pursue other things. I would guess that the film probably picks up with Bruce returning to Gotham to find the city is not in the state of peril he left it in. The Joker is in Arkham, there aren't any other costumed villains running around, Gotham is at peace. The construction at Wayne Manor is complete and there is a new Batcave (as we've seen). Eventually, Bane and his associates (including Catwoman) come to Gotham and cause havoc. They are the League of Shadows, dually led by Bane and Talia al Ghul (posing as Miranda Tate). The League begin rounding up the wealthy to throw in prison. They storm Wayne Manor and probably kill someone close to Bruce (my money is still on Lucius), Bruce fights back but has been out of the game for too long and is rounded up and thrown in Bane's prison along with the rest of Gotham's social elite.

Bane begins terrorizing Gotham, blowing up the football stadium and the bridges and everything like that. He also cripples the police force, putting Gordon in the hospital. Selina Kyle becomes disillusioned with what Bane is doing, and leaves the League in order to find her own way. Bruce and the inmates stage a prison break with the help of Selina, and Bruce dons the batsuit to confront Bane. Bruce, again having been out of the game for too long, is savagely beaten by Bane. Bane leaves Bruce to die, and Bruce is rescued by Selina. Bruce recovers with the help of Selina, and builds an allegiance with her, Gordon, John Blake, and the rest of the Gotham PD. The two forces confront each other, Batman and the police defeat the League and Bruce probably messes with Bane's breathing apparatus killing him.

Bruce plants a story that he was killed in the prison break, and is Batman on a full-time basis.

Now, if you asked me to bet on that story, I wouldn't do it. It's pretty loose and I had to exclude some things from the trailers because I just don't know how they really factor into everything. But I feel like that's a very rough look at how the movie may flow.

That's very well thought out, but i personally feel Catwoman isn't in league with ANYONE, and is simply a wild card playing both sides. I don't think she will be a apart of Banes group from the get go, i could see her lending her self to Bane for a little but in a way that is personally benefiting her self. Even though Bane will be the main villain, much like Joker was TDK, i think Catwoman will have elements of both Joker and Two Face . She will do as she feels and whats best for her, but at the same time not be a "villain" but someone is borderline good and bad. Which sounds like vintage Catwoman to me.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Considering Nolan is producing the next Batman film i doubt that they would kill off the character but i do see hims maybe retiring in the end do to the fact that he is unsure if he made any difference.

That's a rumor that he's producing the next Batman film. As of right now, TDKR very well could be the last one ever. Batman is a cash cow so it probably won't be, but there is no evidence to firmly say there will be another one. Nolan deals in the here and now, and I feel like if he wanted to kill off the character he would do it. There's no reason that the next Batman movie (again, if there is one) needs to continue from TDKR. It could establish its own timeline.

[saveus1011]

Just don't tell the origin again.

[DarthVader 2004]

Truth is if they don't kill batman they could just recast batman and just have it taking place a few years later. They can continue the movie. I mean i like Bale but i wouldn't say he is the best batman ever. There are many good actors who could put on that cowl the thing is not finding another Clooney.

[sshuttari]

Sad but true... A Lot of actors can pull off a better batman. Nolan's movies are just better stories thus far

[Nick1988]

It's the voice, that's really all it comes down to, Bale had potential to be THE Batman, but the second he used that forced rugged voice, it just seemed to derail any chance he had of being the definitive Batman. That's what people will remember most about his Batman is the ridiculous sounding voice.