Call me crazy but... - Page 37

Tolkien · 04-14-2012, 08:28 PM

Call me crazy, but... this forum could really use some 'Like' buttons. And character limits too. lol.

PsYkOoOoO · 04-14-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday

The Kingdom of Heaven Directors Cut is one of the reasons Ridley Scott is one of my favorite filmmakers.

Why have I not watched this yet?

DarthVader 2004 · 04-14-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sshuttari

Call me crazy but "Kingdom of Heaven" director's Cut is the best film Ridley Scott has ever made. Yes better then Alien, Gladiator, and Blade Runner.

Call Me Crazy but i never thought anything was wrong with the movie before the directors cut. I think people missed out on a really great movie here. It just was not a comic book or pop cultured targeted movie.

PsYkOoOoO · 04-14-2012, 10:42 PM

RedVader does it again!

Tolkien · 04-14-2012, 11:33 PM

WTF are you talking about, RedVader? Your post doesn't (and never) make sense.

DarthVader 2004 · 04-15-2012, 12:06 AM

I said there was nothing wrong with the Kingdom Of Heaven to really need a Directors Cut. Its certainly is a bonus to have a longer cut. Its just that i think KOH was a really great movie.

Tolkien · 04-15-2012, 01:24 AM

It was a great movie... but the Director's Cut was a lot better!

sshuttari · 04-15-2012, 04:00 AM

Theatrical version is crap compared to the directors cut. I'm sorry but your way off on this one RedVader and I'm not going to try and figure out what your talking about...

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Originally Posted by Doomsday

The Kingdom of Heaven Directors Cut is one of the reasons Ridley Scott is one of my favorite filmmakers.

Woah! I remember you picked that movie for CS Club when I made a list for you... Crazy I remember that after all these years

PsYkOoOoO · 04-15-2012, 07:45 AM

There's crazy, and then there's RedVader.

DarthVader 2004 · 04-15-2012, 09:20 AM

I am only crazy because you guys think i am wrong and sadly enough i am usually the one alone in my opinions. I really don't care if anyone thinks i am crazy or whatever. I just kinda get tired of Vader getting the crap for a different opinion then the Population that CS Domain may have on certain movies or what not.

I am pretty sure people thought Stephan King and JRR Tolkein were crazy to until they became famous. Not that i will be famous. Its just what determins Crazy. In this case you guys think my taste in movies suck. Not sure that rates me as insane.

PG Cooper · 04-15-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I am only crazy because you guys think i am wrong and sadly enough i am usually the one alone in my opinions. I really don't care if anyone thinks i am crazy or whatever. I just kinda get tired of Vader getting the crap for a different opinion then the Population that CS Domain may have on certain movies or what not.

I am pretty sure people thought Stephan King and JRR Tolkein were crazy to until they became famous. Not that i will be famous. Its just what determins Crazy. In this case you guys think my taste in movies suck. Not sure that rates me as insane.

I think your taking this too seriously.

DarthVader 2004 · 04-15-2012, 08:50 PM

I take movies seriously at times because you gotta have passion for them I think. To be an avid movie nerd sometimes you gotta have some fire because chances are you likely will be some films only fan.

Call me Crazy But Does it bother anyone else that George Lucas made Anakin so wimpy and thus making Vader a bit less menacing.

PsYkOoOoO · 04-15-2012, 08:56 PM

Hey you embody the spirit of this thread. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

MasterChief117 · 04-15-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I am only crazy because you guys think i am wrong and sadly enough i am usually the one alone in my opinions. I really don't care if anyone thinks i am crazy or whatever. I just kinda get tired of Vader getting the crap for a different opinion then the Population that CS Domain may have on certain movies or what not.

I am pretty sure people thought Stephan King and JRR Tolkein were crazy to until they became famous. Not that i will be famous. Its just what determins Crazy. In this case you guys think my taste in movies suck. Not sure that rates me as insane.

I like the subtle pat on the back you gave yourself right there. You are entitled to your opinion, every person on the planet is. However, just because you are, doesn't make it right, and because you choose to make it public, does not mean it won't be scrutinized. Your opinion is your opinion, we all understand that. Embrace it, instead of getting so upset when people poke fun at you.

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

I take movies seriously at times because you gotta have passion for them I think. To be an avid movie nerd sometimes you gotta have some fire because chances are you likely will be some films only fan.

Call me Crazy But Does it bother anyone else that George Lucas made Anakin so wimpy and thus making Vader a bit less menacing.

I think we all feel that way. Vader was a menacing figure in the original trilogy. He was the epitome of evil up till the Return of the Jedi. He brought on this sort of cool want to be a bad guy, and yet you understood why everyone feared him. When I watch the prequel movies, I find it so hard to see the gray area between the two. The transition if you will. It more or less was just a whiney ***** who turned evil because of peer pressure. Nothing even remotely close to what Obi Won said it was in the original trilogy.

PG Cooper · 04-15-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedVader 2004

Call me Crazy But Does it bother anyone else that George Lucas made Anakin so wimpy and thus making Vader a bit less menacing.

I'd call you crazy if it didn't bother you.

PsYkOoOoO · 04-15-2012, 09:33 PM

For the record, I have no problems with RedVader's crazy talk. I love it. Hahaha.

Dracula · 04-15-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PG Cooper

I'd call you crazy if it didn't bother you.

Call me crazy, but it didn't bother me... exactly. The whole point of twist of having Darth Vader be Luke's father was that he was once a good man who was tempted by evil. We always knew that he wasn't like Darth Vader his entire life so I'm not sure why people were so shocked to see that he was once an innocent child and a brash young person. I do think that Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen were very bad in their respective roles and that Anakin, but I'm not on board with this notion that Anakin should have been anything like Darth Vader in the prequels. Just keep in mind that Luke effing Skywalker was this guy's seed.

Doomsday · 04-15-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYkOoOoO

Why have I not watched this yet?

If you like historical epics you'll love it. I remember watching the original cut in theaters and thinking to myself 'it's so obvious that this was chopped to hell in the cutting room.' I enjoyed it but certainly didn't love it. The Directors Cut is night and day. There are entire characters and storylines that aren't even mentioned in the theatrical cut that really round out the rough edges that existed before. If you're a fan of Braveheart or Gladiator you'll really enjoy it, it stands right alongside them.

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Originally Posted by sshuttari

Woah! I remember you picked that movie for CS Club when I made a list for you... Crazy I remember that after all these years

You did? Wow, well your memory is certainly better than mine. Definitely one of my favorite picks of the movies I've seen in the film club.

PsYkOoOoO · 04-15-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday

If you like historical epics you'll love it. I remember watching the original cut in theaters and thinking to myself 'it's so obvious that this was chopped to hell in the cutting room.' I enjoyed it but certainly didn't love it. The Directors Cut is night and day. There are entire characters and storylines that aren't even mentioned in the theatrical cut that really round out the rough edges that existed before. If you're a fan of Braveheart or Gladiator you'll really enjoy it, it stands right alongside them.

So why was it watered down to the theatrical edition? What happened?

sshuttari · 04-16-2012, 12:31 AM

The Studio wanted a shorter film cuz it came out in summer and they thought the best way to do it was keep all the epic battles and cut the storyline short too make more profit. Only it ended up being a horrible decision and you could tell even in the Director's Cut Ridley Scott said this is the real film and that was the Studio's film.

Doomsday · 04-16-2012, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PsYkOoOoO

So why was it watered down to the theatrical edition? What happened?

It would be hard to explain without going into specifics, but like I said the story is just much more fleshed out. For example, in the theatrical version Bailian is on the road to Jerusalem with the Crusaders like 6 minutes into the film. In the DC it's about 20 minutes, and you learn that the priest Balian kills is his jealous brother (I'm pretty sure that wasn't featured in the theatrical trailer). You also learn that one of the reasons the soldiers in France attack Liam Neesons crusaders is because the lord of the French village is Liam Neeson's brother and if Liam Neeson dies he inherits the lands in Jerusalem. Stuff like that that makes it more intriguing, gives much more motive and purpose to the characters.

Doomsday · 04-16-2012, 12:53 AM

Oh, I completely misunderstood your question but sshuttari seems to have answered it. Well, take my post for what it's worth.

I really think they should just stop selling the theatrical version completely and strictly sell the directors cut.

sshuttari · 04-16-2012, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday

You did? Wow, well your memory is certainly better than mine. Definitely one of my favorite picks of the movies I've seen in the film club.

Yeah but you introduced me too "Unforgiven" I think were even

PG Cooper · 04-16-2012, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracula

Call me crazy, but it didn't bother me... exactly. The whole point of twist of having Darth Vader be Luke's father was that he was once a good man who was tempted by evil. We always knew that he wasn't like Darth Vader his entire life so I'm not sure why people were so shocked to see that he was once an innocent child and a brash young person. I do think that Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen were very bad in their respective roles and that Anakin, but I'm not on board with this notion that Anakin should have been anything like Darth Vader in the prequels. Just keep in mind that Luke effing Skywalker was this guy's seed.

I'm all for making him a good person, but did they need to make him a whiny *****? I don't think so.

Nick1988 · 04-16-2012, 09:07 AM

The problem with Anakin was the acting, really no better way of putting it, Hayden did a really bad job, yes he was whiny, but it's even worst when he is whiny and horribly acted, I feel he had the look, Hayden Christeneson def had the look of a troubled person, but man his acting was awful.

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Nick1988 Executive Producer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,401	The problem with Anakin was the acting, really no better way of putting it, Hayden did a really bad job, yes he was whiny, but it's even worst when he is whiny and horribly acted, I feel he had the look, Hayden Christeneson def had the look of a troubled person, but man his acting was awful.