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Old 04-08-2012, 06:01 PM   #1076
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That's it? My argument is now reduced to "It's Star Warsy?" Look around, I go into many reasons why I don't like the movie. God forbid anyone disagree with you on this site. It's amazing how condescending you get.

And being a sci-fi nerd doesn't mean I like all sci-fi, that doesn't even make sense.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:25 PM   #1077
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yea that little 'this is a different universe' thing is stupid, in an alternate universe who says they would all, exactly the same people, go into star fleet? doesn't that defeat the purpose of an alternate universe if they all end up in star fleet in all these universes? although it could be a stance on determinism... but again i think it is much shallower than that.

i dunno... that is the problem with 'hey its an alternate universe'. reminds me of the scene in thank you for smoking, when they explain how they will let angelina jolie and brad pitt smoke a cigarette in an oxygen rich environment.
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Determinism? Don't give them so much credit.

Oooh, good call on the Thank You For Smoking scene. I have to remember that more often to explain sci-fi bull****ing.

Jeff Megall: Sony has a futuristic sci-fi movie they're looking to make.
Nick Naylor: Cigarettes in space?
Jeff Megall: It's the final frontier, Nick.
Nick Naylor: But wouldn't they blow up in an all oxygen environment?
Jeff Megall: Probably. But it's an easy fix. One line of dialogue. 'Thank God we invented the... you know, whatever device.'
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:48 PM   #1079
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yea that little 'this is a different universe' thing is stupid, in an alternate universe who says they would all, exactly the same people, go into star fleet? doesn't that defeat the purpose of an alternate universe if they all end up in star fleet in all these universes? although it could be a stance on determinism... but again i think it is much shallower than that.

i dunno... that is the problem with 'hey its an alternate universe'. reminds me of the scene in thank you for smoking, when they explain how they will let angelina jolie and brad pitt smoke a cigarette in an oxygen rich environment.
Well, the idea is that history is only changed at the point where Vulcan is destroyed, and they are all already in Starfleet at that point (except for Scotty), so that's not the real problem with the movie. I actually kind of like the alternate universe thing in that it's a somewhat clever way to reboot the series while maintaining some semblance of continuity, but the bigger question is why did we need to reboot Star Trek in the first place?
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the bigger question is why did we need to reboot Star Trek in the first place?
Because all those Next Generation movies flopped at the box office. And I don't think anyone would have been interested in Deep Space Nine or Voyager or whatever the heck came afterwards. And making a film with original characters would have been too risky.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:12 AM   #1081
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I don't feel I'm qualified to speak on behalf of Star Trek '09 because of my admitted overall ignorance to the sci-fi genre, but I was at entertained by it. It did seem pretty juvenile a lot of the time though. And eff off, Tyler Perry!
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:23 AM   #1082
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2011: 13 Assassins

Technically I believe it was released in Japan in 2010, but it was released worldwide in 2011. In any case, it came to California in 2011 so I think it counts. As you may have seen by my Japanese Cinema thread I'm a big fan of Japanese films. This is just another addition to my support of their impact on world cinema. Although not the most original, complex, or thought provoking film, it is highly entertaining, very rich in character and first-class battle scenes. What I also enjoy about foreign film is their use of dialogue. It really gives the film a classic sense and takes you back to the earlier samurai films of Kurosawa. 'He who values his life dies a dogs death' is one of many lines that would probably sound stupid in English, but reading the subtitle of the Japanese language gives it weight and substance. It's very dialogue heavy and it's great to help get into the mood. And as mentioned, the battle scenes, oh yes. Almost the entire last half of the film is a battle and a great watch at that. When I finally get my blu-ray player this is going to be one of the first films I pick up.

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Old 04-09-2012, 12:26 AM   #1083
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So there you have it, my list of favorite movies since 2000 by year. If you haven't seen them I recommend you check them out sometime:

2000: High Fidelity
2001: The Royal Tenenbaums
2002: Adaptation
2003: Open Range
2004: Collateral
2005: The Proposition
2006: Letters from Iwo Jima
2007: No Country For Old Men
2008: Burn After Reading
2009: Moon
2010: Black Swan
2011: 13 Assassins
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I should make a similar list right now for kicks.
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:08 AM   #1085
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Year: Movie Name (Close second)
2000: Requiem for a Dream (Memento)
2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Ocean's Eleven)
2002: The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (Adaptation.)
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Kill Bill Vol. 1)
2004: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Closer)
2005: V for Vendetta (Sin City)
2006: The Fountain (The Prestige)
2007: There Will Be Blood (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly)
2008: Doubt (The Dark Knight)
2009: Inglourious Basterds (The Road)
2010: Inception (Toy Story 3)
2011: X-Men First Class (Source Code) Then again, to be honest, I didn't watch a lot of movies last year.
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but the bigger question is why did we need to reboot Star Trek in the first place?
Why shouldn't they reboot it? Heck "Casino Royale" and "Batman Begins" rebooted in there respective franchises.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:53 AM   #1087
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Here's my best of list and I'm even gonna do a worst of the year list.

Best
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2000: Battle Royale
2001: Donnie Darko
2002: Gangs of New York
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
2004: Shaun of the Dead
2005: Sin City
2006: V for Vendetta
2007: Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
2008: The Wrestler
2009: (500) Days of Summer
2010: Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
2011: Drive


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2000: Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
2001: Black Knight
2002: Halloween: Resurrection
2003: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Remake)
2004: Christmas with the Kranks
2005: The Ring Two
2006: Date Movie
2007: Wild Hogs
2008: Disaster Movie
2009: Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li
2010: The 41-Year-Old Virgin Who Knocked Up Sarah Marshall and Felt Superbad About It
2011: Living Will
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:19 AM   #1088
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I made this in about five minutes so if you asked me again tomorrow I would probably generate a different list, but for now:

2000: Almost Famous
2001: Monsters, Inc.
2002: Catch Me If You Can
2003: Lost in Translation
2004: Kill Bill: Volume 2
2005: Batman Begins or Munich... couldn't decide
2006: Casino Royale
2007: Zodiac
2008: The Dark Knight
2009: Up in the Air
2010: Black Swan
2011: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:21 AM   #1089
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Why shouldn't they reboot it? Heck "Casino Royale" and "Batman Begins" rebooted in there respective franchises.
In short, I'm not a huge believer in this notion that once a movie series "jumps the shark" it can't become good again without a dramatic start over. I'm sure that if Star Trek V came out today people would have demanded a reboot for the next movie and we never would have gotten The Undiscovered Country. Similarly, I would have loved to see the TNG crew get a worthy final mission on film, but even if we weren't going to get that I feel like the Star Trek universe is big enough for something a lot more creative than a reboot of the original series crew.

A reboot made sense for Batman since there was barely any continuity in that series to begin with and Batman and Robin was not only bad but almost unwatchable.

As for James Bond, well, Casino Royale is a good movie but I think the notion that that series needed to be "rebooted" was not necessarily in its best interest. First of all, I think Pierce Brosnan still had some good movies in him (image if they'd just needlessly ditched Roger Moore as soon as he made Moonraker, we never would have had For Your Eyes Only). They could have easily just brought in a new creative team and made a darker more high movie without breaking decasdes old traditions and acting like this was James Bond's first mission. If anything Quantum of Solace proved that Casino Royale's success had more to do with Martin Campbell than it did from this notion that the series needed rebooting.
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Casino Royale isn't really a reboot per say. Each actor who played Bond had movies that existed in their own little universe.
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I am not sure I select one per say that year and so on.
I will however list the best movie scores 2000-2011.

Spider-Man.
Harry Potter and The Sorcerers Stone.
Lord Of The Rings The Fellowship Of The Ring.
Pirates Of The Caribbean Curse Of The Black Pearl.
Lord Of The Rings TTT.
Star Wars Revenge Of The Sith.
Batman Begins
Van Helsing- I know many hated the movie but liked the score here.
Pirates Of The Caribbean DMC.
Lord Of The Rings ROTK
The Dark Knight.
Avatar. I am not a big fan of this movie but its visuals and Score were great.
Alice In Wonderland.
Rango.
Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows 1 and 2.
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Casino Royale isn't really a reboot per say. Each actor who played Bond had movies that existed in their own little universe.
It's at least half a reboot. They made him a rookie agent.
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I'll bring this one back for a new list, this time....

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Atlantis
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One of the standout scenes in the whole film, it’s quite an interesting song to choose. Hearing “Down where she may be….” while watching Billy Bats get his head kicked in my Joe Pesci and Bobby DeNiro is a scene that will stick with you long after you see the movie. A cherry on top is that the following scene is one of my favorites of the film, where they stop in and visit Tommy’s (Joe Pesci) mother who cooks them a meal while their victim waits in the trunk.


Making Time
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Even the title of the song by itself is appropriate. The track plays over Max Fischer showcasing each and every club he founded at Rushmore Academy, from the calligraphy team to the fencing team to the trap shooting team. I could have picked any number of songs used in any Wes Anderson movie but this is my favorite.

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One of the standout scenes in the whole film, it’s quite an interesting song to choose. Hearing “Down where she may be….” while watching Billy Bats get his head kicked in my Joe Pesci and Bobby DeNiro is a scene that will stick with you long after you see the movie. A cherry on top is that the following scene is one of my favorites of the film, where they stop in and visit Tommy’s (Joe Pesci) mother who cooks them a meal while their victim waits in the trunk.
If we're talking about Goodfellas, I prefer the use of Sunshine of Your Love by Cream.
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Doomsday, let's just cut to the chase:

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No, let's cut to the real chase:
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No, the REAL chase:

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Dooms, I'm doing one when you're done, with your permission.
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