Rotk Spoiler Pics Inside...

[The_Almighty]

Let's see ...

i will try to control myself

[PsYkOoOoO]

im so happy for you :rolleyes: hey this newbie's learning fast..

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Now now, calm down guys

[Lizwise Gamgee]

Okay the one pic with the face up close...is that Frodo or Legalos?

[PsYkOoOoO]

thats legolas

[andrew17]

swd

[Gandollum]

When the screen caps for the trailer comes out, please post them here instead of making a new thread about it, im pretty sure we'll get them on Monday.

[PsYkOoOoO]

shld be posted here or the trailer thread

[adt100]

Since when were there 16 months in the year? :D

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8750.jpg

[jbailey84]

heheh, people in florida probably made it. :D

that pic of Legolas shooting his bow with the sun behind him looks pretty cool.

[Glordreen]

those are cool pics

[Turin Turambar]

Originally posted by bmp72178
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/caps_commercials/images/rotk_taiwannews_001.jpg

This mus be from the trailer also.

I think it is from the Last Debate chapter. It's clearly in Gondor (the white halls) and Eomer is standing in the background listening in. I would like to see Prince Imrahil though to confirm it....

[FrodoLover]

Hey adt100, where is that calendar from. its not an official LOTR calendar, is it? (the pics in it look so awesome!)

[Queen Arwen]

I am hoping and crossing my fingers that Prince Imrahil will be cast. Somehow, ROTK wouldn't feel the same.

[downflow311]

wow adt where di you get that???? those are brand new spoiler pics!

[Glordreen]

They were just put up on TORN, at least thats where I found them

[LOTRfan]

yea...adt, what kind of calendar is that?...it seems too *cool* to be official. The pics are soo different. Do you know the title of that specific calendar?

[downflow311]

guys, a high-rez pic of shelob will be up in a couple hours:)

[ILOVEKATIE]

I wish there was a bigger version of the picture in the calendar...the one on the top right column. It looks very cool.

[downflow311]

yes it does, it looks like aragorn with an army behind him, but hes not wearing the white tree armor. could that be when hes with the dead?

[ddel54]

wow i want to know where i can buy that calendar and the reason its a 16 month calendar is b/c it starts off with september when ppl start school and then its goes in2 2004

[downflow311]

do we have screen caps yet?

[Gandollum]

Yup, here it is

http://www.theonering.net/movie/preview/rotk_trailer01_01.html

[downflow311]

thanks gandollum

[Gandollum]

Im looking at the screencaps for the other trailers, and does anybody recognize this picture from FOTR cause i dont. I have a speculation that this is probably troops heading off to Morannon.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/movie/preview/images/12_0201.jpg

[downflow311]

probably just a publicity still. wont even see it in ROTK;)

[DolAmroth]

I think that pic was just a massive test to show off what it could do but it might be in rotk

[DolAmroth]

this is a great site http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/ to bad there not bigger

http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/014.jpg
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/118.jpg
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/119.jpg
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/134.jpg
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/138.jpg
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/139.jpg

Those are just incredible

[DolAmroth]

Could these possibly be the two watchers
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/087.jpg

[Macbane]

Isn't that minas morgul though? I was thinking about that, too...

[DolAmroth]

yeah I think those are the two watchers they look scary

[Macbane]

But why are they at MM? And didn't the books describe them as having like 3 heads? I'll have to check.

[DolAmroth]

ya I think so and in the cartoon they were 3 headed birds

[Lizwise Gamgee]

Originally posted by Macbane
But why are they at MM? And didn't the books describe them as having like 3 heads? I'll have to check.

I don't remember anything like that!
I remember when my family first saw those, I'm the only one that knew it was from the books, but my parents could have been seeing them riding in Star Trek spaceships and thought the same thing: that it was some weird thing added in. They liked it, but they both looked at me to confirm it was from the book.

[adt100]

I don't recall there being any specific mention of 'watchers' at the entrance of Minas Morgul only Cirith Ungol. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the designers didn't simply add a little bit of artistic licence in adding these giant statues to the end of the bridge that leads out of MM.

If you look closely they appear to be 2 carved Balrgo statues, very impressive IMO.

[DolAmroth]

OK I noticed something about this pic that was a lilttle odd . Look at the top of the city walls especailly the main front one shouldnt there be like thousands of Gondorian soldiers upon them but there none. It like theres no army in the city.

http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/016.jpg

[adt100]

I'm sure they won't have forgotten to put the Gondor soldiers in! It's just far too far away to pick them out.

[DolAmroth]

I guess so but it seems of all the pics and previews/trailers of the rotk so far we havnt seen any shots of the Gondorian army just ones with like 20 men but nothing in the hundreds or thousands, and I say it should be about eight to ten thousand men in the city at the begining of the siege for the battle to have a realistic victroy. Of course like 6,000 rohirrum come and Aragorn should come with another 5,000 men and about 10,000oathbreakers.

[king_of_hetzer]

Originally posted by Gandollum
Im looking at the screencaps for the other trailers, and does anybody recognize this picture from FOTR cause i dont. I have a speculation that this is probably troops heading off to Morannon.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/movie/preview/images/12_0201.jpg


Actually this was not a production still and it will not be in Return of the King either. This was part of the prologue that started off being made, and they found out they didn't need it and it wasted time, BUT, PJ being who he is thought it would look so cool and did a 10 second shot of what was going to be about 15 seconds in the prologue... the reason he wanted to do it was to test if he could really live up to tolkein + to use it in teasers and trailers to attract people (it is used in teaser 1 of fellowship I believe).

EDIT* Forgive me, someone has informed me no way just the march of an army in the quick paced prologue could last 15 seconds, I, for one, agree. I must assume then that PJ did something like 3 seconds (the one in the teaser is like 1.5 sec) but it was planned to be like 7 seconds.

[DolAmroth]

that sounds about right

[The Moose]

dang, i wanted to see that in the movie, but i am sure that PJ will deliver some awesome shots of the armies marching off to fight

[DolAmroth]

for sure what we have already seen from the rotk trailer looks even better then the Two Towers movie

[Samwise Gamwich]

Yup....

Work print from FOTR

[The Moose]

wasn't at first for me, but it grew on me, and is still doing so

[DolAmroth]

Does this pic look like right after Grond destroyes the main gate at MT
http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/6629.JPG

[The Moose]

looks like that to me

[Mirokai]

I don't know it's pretty dark but if a I have to decide I say yes

[Macbane]

In the EA preview for the ROTK video game there's some in-game scenes from the paths of the dead... I can't find a good place to host the screen caps at right now, so if someone else has the preview maybe they could try...

[kel thuzad]

DolAmroth, i'd say that line in your signature came from Theoden, not Aragorn.

[adt100]

No, it's definitely Aragorn, no question.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Adt, I don't think those two statues are Balrogs, IMO they dont look like Balrogs.. granted their similar, here I brightened the pic

http://www.angelfire.com/wrestling3/pwfchristianrps/watchers.png

[Glordreen]

I agree they dont have the same stature as Balrogs, but I may be wrong.

[adt100]

Now you've brigthened the pic they are a bit clearer, but they look more like PJ's Balrogs than any other creature IMO.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

To me, they just look like
demons

[Macbane]

Heh... Looks like Diablo

[PsYkOoOoO]

i agree!diablo!!actually diablo was designed according to the balrog...

[Turin Turambar]

I have a big question about Minas Morgul.

Now that I've seen some pics from the city of the Nazgul, I can compare them with the pics of Minas Tirith. If you remember, both cities were built ground up by the men of Gondor after the Fall of Sauron in the 2nd age. When men's watch on Mordor failed, evil things crept back into the land, and Minas Ithil was overthrown and became Minas Morgul.

So... is the city in the pics one that has gone over renovation, like Soldier Field? That's definitely not something the men of Westernesse would build, especially the statues by the bridge. My only guess is that they conquered Minas Ithil, messed it up in Gondor's last resistance, and then had orcs remodel it for Sauron's liking. Still seems weird to me.

BTW, the Black Gate was also built by Gondor... they had some bizarre tastes back in the day....

[PsYkOoOoO]

like you said...they probably renovated the place...

[DolAmroth]

Im just curious but how do u build something like the black gate. I mean its so big where do u start.

[Glordreen]

they just did, were not supposed to know how.

[Elf Lady]

Macbane, I did cap the ROTK game preview, but I only hit the highlights. See them here http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/eagame/index.htm

edit: Ok, just downloaded the larger version of the preview, I'll be back later with more comprehensive caps.

edit #2: Done.

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by kel thuzad
DolAmroth, i'd say that line in your signature came from Theoden, not Aragorn.

Originally posted by adt100
No, it's definitely Aragorn, no question.

kel thuzad, don't feel bad...it def. wasn't Viggo's normal speaking voice. He sounded weird to me too. As I said before, his voice has the same quality there as it had in FOTR during the Council of Elrond when he says "It has no other master." It's the wrong pitch or something. And a few of my friends didn't believe it was Aragorn talking during the speech either. He doesn't sound like he normally does.

[Macbane]

Great job, as always Elf Lady! :applaud:
So is that what the POTD will look like in the movie? Kinda weird... but I'm sure it'll look cool.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
Adt, I don't think those two statues are Balrogs, IMO they dont look like Balrogs.. granted their similar, here I brightened the pic

http://www.angelfire.com/wrestling3/pwfchristianrps/watchers.png

They are Gargoyle 'watchers'

[PsYkOoOoO]

can somebody pls tell me what the heck this is?somebody on TORN said that its one of PJ's cameos...a so called cleverest disguise yet...but i dont see him...at all..even with the circle i still dont see him..anybody?



http://img-www.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8840.jpg

[southern]

it looks like a rock

[PsYkOoOoO]

exactly...but two persons from TORN plus my sister and my mom can see a person standing there...what the hell is this!?!?!

[Glordreen]

There is a person standing there, it looks like he's dressed in grey, and he does look like a rock, but there is definately someone there

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
exactly...but two persons from TORN plus my sister and my mom can see a person standing there...what the hell is this!?!?!
ask them to point out the features. I can see him as well...it looks like he's holding a camera in his right hand or else something is obscuring the right-side of his face. What I'm interested in is the two people (Frodo and Sam?) Gollum is looking down at in the lower left-hand corner.

[PsYkOoOoO]

am i blind?

[southern]

still looks like a rock

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

I can see it, but I think it must be some obscurity and it looks like someone there because if it is person its extremly small and wouldnt make sense, look at the Hobbits we see those fairly big in that picture and their supposed to be small so how small would the person be to be about ankle height on a hobbit.. thats like a freaking fairy

[Dogbert0228]

Tilt your heads a bit to the right... It appears to be a four-legged creature looking up at Gollum... A wolf perhaps, standing atop the rock... See it's glowing eyes? The ears sticking up on top of the head?

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

How could a wolf possibly be that small?

[adt100]

I can see a very vague resembelance to PJ standing up.

There are only 2 answers though, either it's an optical illusion, (people have a tendancy/ability to create images of people out abstract shapes. Take all the images of Jesus/Virgin Mary in potatoes etc). Or it's a little trick played by the SFX guys, cleverly disguising a small image of PJ into the rocks.

I'm inclined to believe the first option, but we'll see when we we get the DVD.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Or it's a little trick played by the SFX guys, cleverly disguising a small image of PJ into the rocks.

If they did, its stupid.. theres no point in doing so

[king_of_hetzer]

Do any of you like my signature?

[Mr. Frodo]

i think its a cat

[Fable]

wtf, all i see is a rock, how is that PJ?

[Fable]

oh!!!! is he looking in the direction of frodo and sam? I think i see it.

[The Moose]

it's a bit difficult to see which way his eyes are pointed, but he may be looking at them

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
How could a wolf possibly be that small?

Looks like it's at a good distance from us, if you look at the size of Gollum's hand in the foreground and consider the proportion...

[The Moose]

i think i can see the wolf in there

[adt100]

Yes, but it's in between Gollum and Sam/Frodo, yet is far smaller than either of them. It's clearly not an actual object/animal etc, just a formation in the rock.

[The Moose]

that's what i was thinking, as it took me a while to find the wolf, andi ould see PJ instantly

[scifi guy]

I think its simply just a rock. Nothing more.

[DolAmroth]

I was just wondering is this pic the entrace to Shelobs layer where sams standing. Or is it something else

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/rotkgollum/images/RotK-0122.jpg

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
ask them to point out the features. I can see him as well...it looks like he's holding a camera in his right hand or else something is obscuring the right-side of his face. What I'm interested in is the two people (Frodo and Sam?) Gollum is looking down at in the lower left-hand corner.
Umm, I'm sorry but you have a very wild imagination to think theres a person sitting there with a camera.
Theres no one there, thats simply a weird shaped piece of rock, like all rocks.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
kel thuzad, don't feel bad...it def. wasn't Viggo's normal speaking voice. He sounded weird to me too. As I said before, his voice has the same quality there as it had in FOTR during the Council of Elrond when he says "It has no other master." It's the wrong pitch or something. And a few of my friends didn't believe it was Aragorn talking during the speech either. He doesn't sound like he normally does.
I know exactly what you mean, Viggo does that to his voice some times, like hitting his high note or something, sounds weird but in the trailer thats definitely Aragorn/Viggo voice, I just don't see how some people can confuse it with Theoden's.

[The Moose]

the person who says "The end has come" sounds really wierd to me, and elrond saying "you gave away your life's grace" sounds really different to "i cannot protect you now"

[LOTRfan]

I noticed that as well, maybe it just was cut weird...

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
Umm, I'm sorry but you have a very wild imagination to think theres a person sitting there with a camera.
Theres no one there, thats simply a weird shaped piece of rock, like all rocks.

The camera part was a joke...*if* there's a person there I doubt they'd go as far as to put a camera in his hand....but hey, ya never know :D

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by DolAmroth
I was just wondering is this pic the entrace to Shelobs layer where sams standing. Or is it something else

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/rotkgollum/images/RotK-0122.jpg

not the entrance to the lair...notice the trees?there are no trees there...probably somewhere around the crossroads

[adt100]

It can only be form the first entrance into the Mountains by the Morgul Vale, and the first set of stairs.

[PsYkOoOoO]

as i thought...anyway..i still see a rock

[Fanible]

It's just a rock, with an optical illusion people have put in their head. It's a lot easier to see it with that red ring circling it too.

Without the red ring it looks like nothing more than a rock. It's like looking at clouds, or a mountain side. You can make out figures if you really want to.

In that dark figure the red ring is circling, I can make out a long narrow head. I can make out a wolf with two eyes. And I can make out a figure of a man standing.

It's just an illusion.

[DarkPhoenix646]

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Does this pic look like right after Grond destroyes the main gate at MT
http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/6629.JPG

is that a movie still or from the video game?

[Macbane]

video game.

[scifi guy]

Its hard to tell but i say its a video game.

[adt100]

We saw that image a while ago from 1 of the earliest video clips. It is at the point of Grond breaking the gates IIRC.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

IIRC?

But yes it is the video game

[Fable]

i remember seeing that picture as well. I'm almost positive it's NOT the video game, but from ROTK, in one of the earlier ROTK trailers you see that same shot, the orcs closing in on gandalf. I don't know if anyone else remember this or not, is there anyone to back me up?

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

No, I think it IS the video game

[Glordreen]

Its from the game, no doubt

[adt100]

IIRC = if I recall/remember correctly.

Fable, it is 100% definitely, positively from the video game. We saw it in E3 footage I think back in the first half of this year!

I would be slightly worrie di fthe SFX for the actual film were that poor. ;)

[DolAmroth]

Originally posted by DarkPhoenix646
is that a movie still or from the video game?

No thats not from the game its from the E3 preview that was shown its the actuall movie.

[Glordreen]

Really. I still think it looks like the game

[Macbane]

It HAS to be the game.. look at the FX of the ground where Gandalf is standing, and look at Gandalf himself! It's obvious that it's the game.

[DolAmroth]

I think it might be the game or the movie I dont know but that qulaity is just poor thats why the effects look bad

[DolAmroth]

I know we already talked about this before but does anyone if this pic is from the Ride Of The Rohirrum or the battle at the black gate.

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/rotkmiscellaneous/images/RotK-0093.jpg


I think its the black gate cause that looks like Aragorn on his horse there in the front.

[Glordreen]

I think the sky would be blacker at the black gate. So Rohirrim or Pellenor

[Samwise Gamwich]

This is at The Black Gate as the dawn rises on the Gondorian armies! Being led obviously by King Ellesar!! We commonly know him has Aragorn...

[Samwise Gamwich]

What a spoiler!

[DolAmroth]

you sound so sure that u know its at the black gate and not the Pelennor is there something you know that I dont I like to be informed on all new info

[Samwise Gamwich]

Just use the maps of Middle Earth and 'visualize' them in your mind.... Then visualize how PJ makes these things happen....

It also helps to be under the influence of the Half-Ling's Leaf....

[DolAmroth]

uh ok how can you tell where on the map that is

[Turin Turambar]

I thought the armies outside the Black Gate were standing on two hills, the same ones Frodo and Sam used to approach the gate. That pic clearly looks like flat earth.

I would say it's the army ammassing on the Pellennor before the final battle. Aragorn gives a huge speech, then they march away.

Just a thought.

[The Moose]

interesting thing about the hills, but after the army of orcs was defeated at pelennor, didn't the black cloude recede, allowing the sun to shine through. this would explain why the sun is rising at damn at the black gates. if the clouds didn't recede, we wouldn't see the sunrise

[adt100]

It's the Pelennor Fields! A bit larger army that I had envisioned, but it is because you see Theoden rallying his troops on hie white horse in front. It is at the part of the trailer where footage is intercut between Theoden and Eowyn at the Pelennor and Aragorn at the Black Gates.

[PsYkOoOoO]

that made sense but however
what is the colour of eomer's horse?that couple be him instead..

and also..if it is at the pelennor fields..explain the dark clouds on the right side of the pic..

[adt100]

Eomer has a brown horse, besides he wouldn't be out front rallying the troops like that. That is Theoden's place.

The dark clouds on the right are as expected, and as we saw on the charge of the Rohirrim from the TTT DVD. The Rohirrim come from the North, therefore the clouds to the right are over Mordor.

[toneDef]

not sure if anyone else has posted about this already, but there are several (i've counted 8 so far i've gotten to come up) new images from rotk in the image rotation on the front page of the !official site (http://www.lordoftherings.net). they appear as the wide image in the center of the page (width of the screen). there are some nice images there, mostly collages. can someone please capture these and post them here!

[evenstar]

I think the above have already been posted. Still nice pics though.

[Elf Lady]

The Danish MSN site posted full color pics from the ROTK trailer. I hesitate to post an active link because the popup window with the caps displays profanity. I've uploaded them to my server.
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/001.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/002.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/003.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/004.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/005.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/006.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/007.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/008.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/009.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/010.jpg

[Elf Lady]

The rest...
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/011.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/012.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/013.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/014.jpg

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/015.jpg

[Iben]

:eek:

I can't take anymore! I need this movie to be here now!!! :(

[evenstar]

high quality pictures, making those 70 days seem even longer.
:(

[Iben]

on another note, Thanks to the Danes for putting up those pictures, we rock! :D

[adt100]

I just saw a few of the high res pics from the empireonline.co.uk forums (linked to from the film.msn.dk site).

Why on earth are the Danish sites getting all these things early?

The official site hasn't put up the fullscreen trailer yet and it's been a week. Obviously these pictures are 'official', so why are they out on other sites before the offical LOTR site? :rolleyes:

[Iben]

Originally posted by adt100
Why on earth are the Danish sites getting all these things early? because obviously the Danes are way cooler than others! :D

[evenstar]

:rolleyes: just had to add that didnt you?;)

[Tonkpils]

Those pics look so much better than they do in the trailer... you can really get a great look at Shelob.

[Iben]

Originally posted by evenstar
:rolleyes: just had to add that didnt you?;) I couldn't resist ;)

[adt100]

Well they do have nice bacon, apparently.

[downflow311]

those are some sweet high quality pics:)

[ILOVEKATIE]

amazing

[Smeagol]

Shelob looks too big. :o

[FrodoLover]

well in the book shelob was big enough for sam to walk underneath her, so i think she fits the books description perfecty

[scifi guy]

Those pics are simply amazing especially Shelob.

[Macbane]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Shelob looks too big. :o

woah... Shelob is supposed to be huge! I hope She's all fat and hulking and nasty when we finally get a really good look at her.

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by Elf Lady
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/010.jpg[/IMG]

I have this as the background for my computer!

[Glordreen]

CANT WAIT!!!!

[DolAmroth]

Those pics are so vivid and clear to bad there not just a little bigger.

[Nazgul-101]

Originally posted by Brock Landers
I have this as the background for my computer!
OH WHAT!?!?!?! What resolution you have it in???? Where can i find it??
I want the one with Minas Tirith... but i can't seem to find it anywhere.

[LOTRfan]

Is it just me, or does Shelob look a bit fake in that still? She seems machine-like and the pink coloring is annoying me. Hopefully it's just the lighting and I still have full confidence that in the theater Shelob will "strike fear in the hearts of men." :D

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
Is it just me, or does Shelob look a bit fake in that still? She seems machine-like and the pick coloring is annoying me. Hopefully it's just the lighting and I still have full confidence that in the theater Shelob will "strike fear in the hearts of men." :D

Look what they did with Gollum. Have faith and patience :)

I know Andy Serkis isn't running around in a motion capture suit for WETA, but I think they'll do a fine job regardless :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

she looks pretty real to me~

[PsYkOoOoO]

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8938.jpg

possible Final Poster of ROTK?

[DolAmroth]

No thats just the poster showing that all 3 moives will be playing in the theatures

[Macbane]

Pretty cool poster, though.

[The Moose]

i like it. i think that TORn has a much bigger version of it on their site, with a link on the front page

[PsYkOoOoO]

that is the biggest one i can find

[MagsXGill29]

looks cool :)

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by FrodoLover
well in the book shelob was big enough for sam to walk underneath her, so i think she fits the books description perfecty
Actually... Go read The Two Towers again...
You find that Shelob raises herself up over Sam....
and all Sam can do is hold Sting upwards as Shelob throws her body down on top of Sam and the upraised Sting.... By the way... Sting was forged for the very reason of killing or injuring Shelob or her offspring...
And look at the pic again you can actually get a glimpse of her over sized abdomen....
She is very scary for arachnophobes like myself.....

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
Is it just me, or does Shelob look a bit fake in that still? She seems machine-like and the pink coloring is annoying me. Hopefully it's just the lighting and I still have full confidence that in the theater Shelob will "strike fear in the hearts of men." :D

She is already scary and revolting...
(Watch the trailer again and see how she moves)

Trust PJ...

[DolAmroth]

Does anyone know if this pis is at the Pelennor Fields or the black gate.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8935.jpg

[scifi guy]

i'd say Pelennor Fields. due to the fact that we have seen what the land around the black gate looks like already. That pics scenery looks totally different.

[The Moose]

mountains we can see show it is Pelennor. at the black gates, th only mountains you can see are the mountains of ash and mountains of shadow. bhind is the emyn muil and the dead marshes. might be able to see the misty mountains far away in the distance, but definitely Pelennor

[DolAmroth]

lol im so stupid i didnt even notice the mtns in the background lol ok its the pelennor.

[The Moose]

and there's also plants on the ground, and nothing can grow that close to mordor, other than the occassional tussock

[DolAmroth]

Ok I know some people are not sure wether or not this pic is at the black gate or the Pelennor
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/filmmsn/images/010.jpg

but according to this pic from the rotk preview that many horses dont go to the black gate so it must be the Pelennor

http://homepage.mac.com/elwen/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-08-19%2002.15.42%20-0700/Image-197DB2DED22511D7.jpg

Unless this pic wastnt fully editing like the shot of gandalf looking at the orc army upon the battlement in the peview. But that shot of them coming out of Minas Tirith is about a hundred horses and proly about 2,000men much less then the book.

[scifi guy]

1st pic-Pelennor
2nd pic-black gate

IMO!

[DolAmroth]

Yeah I figured the 1st pic was the Pelennor but the 2nd ones not the black gate its them coming out of Minas Tirith on the way to the black gate. but im just saying in the book they went to the black gate with a 1,000 horses and 6,000 men. and that shots no where near that many.

[scifi guy]

Yeah, I think your right about that.

[The Moose]

i don't know about the one with all the horses. why would we still be seeing the sun on the dawnless day? the clouds blocked out all the sun, so we wouldn't see it rise, ut the clouds receded when the army at Pelennor was destroyed, so that leads me to think it is the black gate, but then i'm wondering about the horses

second pic is definitely going to the black gate

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Yeah I figured the 1st pic was the Pelennor but the 2nd ones not the black gate its them coming out of Minas Tirith on the way to the black gate. but im just saying in the book they went to the black gate with a 1,000 horses and 6,000 men. and that shots no where near that many.

There is still more people coming out of Minas tirith, that shot just shows Aragorn at the helm of the army.

That pic is them going to the BlackGate IMO.

[king_of_hetzer]

2000 versus 20,000

Kill 10 people and die and oh yea your good (on the side of the 2000's)

[DolAmroth]

what do you mean

[LOTRfan]

I think he's saying in order to defeat the 20,000 enemies, everyone would have to kill 10 people before they die themselves. Just showing the huge difference in the ratio.

[DolAmroth]

ok but theres a hell of a lot more then 20,000 enemies I think he means 200,000

[LOTRfan]

oo...yes I believe you are correct. So in that case he should've said each person would have to kill 100 people...that's a tad far-fetched for the people on the 2,000 side to win. I seriously don't remember the odds being that bad in the book, but that's all I've been hearing lately.

[DolAmroth]

In the book 7,000men went to the black gate and there were attacked by forces over ten times theres, so go figure. Now the movie will proly be diffenent in which way I dont know yet.

[LOTRfan]

that scale makes a lot more sense, and has more believability.

[DolAmroth]

but that was the hole point of the battle there was no hope at all for the good guys cause they were so outnumbered. But remember the ring gets desroyed before the battle ends so all the good guys wont die.

[The Moose]

yeah. the line that gandalf delivers there has to be good. it could be really cheesy if it isn't said correctly

[DolAmroth]

what are you talking about what line.

[The Moose]

"The Rinbearer, he has completed his task"

[DolAmroth]

oh ok ya thats a great line his task

[The Moose]

but do ya get hwat i mean, it could turn out really bad if it's not said in the right way?

[DolAmroth]

yes thats for sure, but I trust PJ he as done an incredible job so far :claps hands:

[The Moose]

he would have wanted that line to be just perfect, so it would have been shot more then once, i can gurantee you that

[adt100]

Moose, we discussed this a few days ago. The first pic is definitely the Ride of the Rohirrim at the Pelennor. Why do you think (in the book) - "... a **** crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of wizardy or war, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn."

[The Moose]

woops, sorry about that. with that now in mind, i am sure that it is Pelennor

[DolAmroth]

"a **** crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of wizardy or war, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn."

thats one of my fav parts just cause its so great. I hope its in the moive.

[king_of_hetzer]

Wait, I was referring to Helm's Deep, not Rotk.

[DolAmroth]

ok but you said 20,000 thats not correct, there were 10,000 uruk hai and about 800 men and elfs at Helms Deep plus the 2,000 riders that came later with Gandalf. I would assume the men and elfs killed about 4,000 and then the riders killed off the last 6,000.

[Nazgul-101]

I thought only 300 men and maybe around another 100-200 elfs.... that would only make it around 400-500 all together.

[The Moose]

Dol, legolas said that it was about 300. remember the argument he had with aragorn in the armoury? they were speaking in elvish and legolas said"they can not win this fight. they are all going to die" and then aragorn said "then i shall die as one of them" in the common tongue? legs said 300, and then about 200 elves came, taking the total defenders to about 500

[king_of_hetzer]

Oh my gosh! Post that pic with Saruman on the spike!!

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Look at the first page of this thread

[king_of_hetzer]

TAHNK (OOO

[DolAmroth]

Originally posted by The Moose
Dol, legolas said that it was about 300. remember the argument he had with aragorn in the armoury? they were speaking in elvish and legolas said"they can not win this fight. they are all going to die" and then aragorn said "then i shall die as one of them" in the common tongue? legs said 300, and then about 200 elves came, taking the total defenders to about 500


There were 300 men and about 500 elfs. There were a lot of elfs. They were in 3 rows all the way down the deeping wall plus there more rows behind the wall. So there were definitly more elfs then men.

[scifi guy]

Are you sure? I thought it was 300 Men and 200 Elves at Helm's Deep.

[DolAmroth]

There were way more then 200 elfs look at these pics you can see theres more then 200.

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/ttthelmsdeep/images/twotowers1220.jpg

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/ttthelmsdeep/images/twotowers1212.jpg

plus all the ones behind the wall

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/ttthelmsdeep/images/twotowerst161.jpg

theres atleast 500

[The Moose]

yeah, i can see what you mean abotu the 500. probably that many

[Macbane]

I am craving some new ROTK pics. Been kinda dead on new stuff lately since the trailer came out, huh?

[The Moose]

yeah, suppose so. we'll get some new pics in time though

[Macbane]

Ya, I guess. I'm just impatient, that's all ;)

[The Moose]

so am i, most of the time. but i know that ROTK will be damn good, and that will give me a huge does of pics

[Macbane]

haha ya I'm pretty sure ROTK will have some good spoiler pics in it. ;) :p

[The Moose]

yeah, suppose so, if it can be classified as that

[DolAmroth]

I wonder if NL will realese any new rotk pics at all. I mean the trailers out so what else is there really.

[Macbane]

still to look forward to: the final One Sheet for the movie... probably more floating heads :rolleyes:

And I'm not really complaining about there being no new pics, its just that we've seen em all basically so now it's just the waiting for Dec that's killin' me.

[DolAmroth]

yeah same here

[scifi guy]

Yep i suppose your right Dol, Your pics have cleared it up for me thanks.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/9030.jpg

[coal-ash]

i think i like the other version better judging by this pic. the old helmet seemed cooler

[UnicornBlood3]

Omg!!!! He looks freaken scary! :eek:

[scifi guy]

That pic is amazing. Looks much better then his other getup. IMO

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

The official site is now going through its relaunch I told you about, there are some new interviews and that Aragorn's Destiny video over there now. Feel free to venture over there. :)

[adt100]

I didn't think I though I'd say this but ... I really don't like that pic of the WiKi too much. :(

I far preferred the gold and black 'crown' with the high spikes around the outside and red mark in the centre. Either that or the spiked crown he wore in FOTR as seen in 'twighlight' mode.

[adt100]

These are the 2 crowns/helms I'd have preferred to see, although if the first one is for the MOS I'll be happy. -

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/6355.jpg

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9318_image02.jpg

[scifi guy]

nice pics adt, I like the golden crown with the red jewl.

[Brock Landers]

Meh, I'm unimpressed with the Witch King.....his helmut that he's wearing reminds we too much of one of those "Uruk-Hai berserkers"

[Macbane]

I dunno... I think the Witch King looks scary enough. Looks cool to me, but the gold crown with the red jewel looks pretty sweet, too.

[PsYkOoOoO]

hmmm..i prefer the gold crown..but then again...we'll have to wait for the other one...

[Macbane]

I like it. It looks creepy and more gothic looking than the gold one.

[ILOVEKATIE]

I like the pic, he does look creepy. The gold crown looks cool too but it looks a bit like Sauron's.

[Necross]

I don't really care what his helmet looks like i think they are both cool, i just can't wait for all the scenes with him, they will all be fantasmical!!

[DolAmroth]

That could possibly be the old witck kings armor cause remember PJ reshot that whole seen cause he thought it looked to much like Saurons

[The Moose]

either way, i think that both are really cool, and would be happy with either. i have no favourite

[adt100]

I don't think the gold/black red ceown looks at all enough like Sauron's armour (not that this is necessarily the original design - it could be the MOS's).

It similar in style yes, with the spikes on top, but then being Sauron's lieutenant it should be. The black/gold/red colours and shortert more 'crown-like' spikes are enough to differnetiate it for me though.

Added to the fact that he will be in his black Nazgul robes, on a fell beast, and be reffered to as the Witch Kin/Lord of the Nazgul at least a few times in the film, I don't think even the casual viwer that's follwoing the events will get confused.

[doc alex]

I for one LOVE it and I think he looks freaking TERRIFYING! Can you imagine this guy coming towards you during a battle?

My thoughts would be: I'm F****D! I for one sure like it better than the 2 pics adt100 posted... He looks much scarier and deadlier than before... And just think, if Dernhelm comes face to face with this guy and Dernhelm shows "his" real nature, will the audience think "he" will stand a chance?

[adt100]

I think in that shot it certainly looks pretty scary yes! The point I'm more bothered about is that huge central spike think coming out of the top looks a bit odd to me, and it's not really any kind of 'crown' at all, as it is meant to be. This is after all, the Witch King of Angmar!

[Wyn]

Oh-er I dont know what i think to that piccy all i keep thinking is he looks really rather bizarre lol.
I had imagined that they would make him look much more like he does in FOTR. Oh well i`m sure in the film it will be just fine (hope so as its one of my fave parts!!)

[doc alex]

Yes, he is the Witch-King, yet I think that the direction they are taking is that they want to show how bad-ass the WiKi is...
Think that in order for him to be shown with some of the helmets pictured above, his face would have to be exposed and only in the Wraithworld could they do that... On the other hand they couldn't show him with just a Nazgul robe, that wouldn't explain his stature...

What they do is, they make him a really kick-ass scary helmet that makes him look like someone who would rip you in half and make you eat your own liver, someone who would make the audience say: there's a guy who would destroy his enemies....

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

I personally think WiKi looks great as he is, I didnt want an extravagant crown or armour

[adt100]

Originally posted by doc alex
Think that in order for him to be shown with some of the helmets pictured above, his face would have to be exposed and only in the Wraithworld could they do that... On the other hand they couldn't show him with just a Nazgul robe, that wouldn't explain his stature...


Yes, but that's another aspect of the whole ROTK WiKi that I'm (a little) disappointed the film-makers abandoned. In the book when he removes his hood he has no face.

The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laugh."

The other concept is the fact that he now appears to ride in on his winged steed rather than horse. Now both decisions made by PJ and co. I can understand, but this is one of my favourite parts of the whole book, so I am perhaps being more critical.

I'm sure it will look great though, we've not been let down yet on the visual side of things!

[Necross]

Well when he faces Eowyn he is on a winged beast. As for the no head thing. those pics were not definite and anyway, the blackness is nothingness you know what I mean. There is not head under the crown just darkness....nothingness...

[downflow311]

i think the witch king looks bad ass. very gothic and creepy

[Elf Lady]

I scanned these from the Nov, 2003 issue of "White Dwarf" (GamesWorkshop gaming mag).
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_001_550.jpg
Bigger! (http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_001.jpg)

http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_002_550.jpg
Bigger! (http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_002.jpg)

[downflow311]

nice pics!!! thanks elflady!

[DolAmroth]

wow those are way cool pics

[Samwise Gamwich]

Pippin holding a fallen Merry during the Battle of the Pellenor Fields....

[Samwise Gamwich]

The second one is a photoshop hack.... Decent pic of Aragorn though....

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by Samwise Gamwich
The second one is a photoshop hack.... Decent pic of Aragorn though....

Well, if it's from a magazine, it may have just been a picture of Frodo overlapping that one of Aragorn... I don't think it's a hack, just the way the images were arranged...

[DolAmroth]

So did the witch king only put that helmet on for the battle of the Pelennor fields, cause I mean he hasnt ever worn it before. Also why is the mouth so big and open looks kinda weird.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/9030.jpg

[The Moose]

i dunno. could have put it on for Pelennor, as it would be the defining battle

[Turin Turambar]

Originally posted by Elf Lady
I scanned these from the Nov, 2003 issue of "White Dwarf" (GamesWorkshop gaming mag).
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_001_550.jpg
Bigger! (http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_001.jpg)



Is it just me or does Pippin look like Squeak/Kenny/Lil B**** from Baseketball?

"How am I supposed to get a girl in that (referring to the dog's basket)?"
"Dude, you couldn't get a girl with a $100 hanging out of your zipper."
"Yes I could!"
"Nah, dude, you're a Lil B****!"

Now THAT was cinematic gold! Hahaha...

Ha...

*sigh* It's late, forgive me.

[The Moose]

Pippin sorta looked like Eowyn to me for a second, and then i saw more resemblance to Pippin

[Lizwise Gamgee]

That second pic, was Frodo inserted, or is that just like a change of scenes?

[PsYkOoOoO]

obviously its done by photoshop

[Necross]

I have seen to many people thinking the hobbit with Eowyn is Pippin. Its Merry!!!! Oi!

[adt100]

Which pic are you talking about Necross?

The one with Pippin holding Merry on the battlefield, or Eowyn with Merry on the horse?

[Necross]

I thnk I might have posted that in the wrong thread....oh well I will let it be known. There was a thread with Eowyn holding Merry and like half the people were calling him Pippon. Sorry I can't believe I posted that here. Oh well, I am sure you will find other people's ignorance amusing anyway lol. They would probably have flamed me for exposing them! lol I looked at the above pic too fast.

[Necross]

I did what the moose did, thought it was Eowyn so I assumed, to quickly it seemed, that this was the thread with the morons who acted like they knew everything about Lord of the Rings, but didn't even know the peoples names lol. I apologize for my mistake.

[adt100]

Originally posted by Necross
that this was the thread with the morons who acted like they knew everything about Lord of the Rings, but didn't even know the peoples names lol. I apologize for my mistake.

But we do know everything about Lord of the Rings, (at least collectively.) ;)

Does that make us bad people? :D

[Elf Lady]

The image of Frodo (a full body shot, btw), was just part of the magazine layout, I didn't crop the pic to take him out...actually, in the original picture, Gollum is also shown with gaming miniatures.

[DolAmroth]

Looks like the Witch King was in the trailer

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/9054.jpg

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/9056.jpg

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Elf Lady
I scanned these from the Nov, 2003 issue of "White Dwarf" (GamesWorkshop gaming mag).
http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/whitedwarf_03nov_001_550.jpg
Who do you guys think are behind them?
Looks like Eowyn (or Legolas because of the hair) and Gandalf a little further away. Who is supposed to be there? And I'm pretty sure Pippin wasn't there when Merry got injured in the book...
Since the details are a bit hazy for me, was Legolas and Gandalf there at the time in the book?