Go WWE!

[ChaCho]

would it be possible if Matt joins TNA?

[IamMrDJ]

Matt is under contract with WWE for a little while longer and if he asked for his release he would have to sign a waiver stating that he will not work for another rival promotion for a period of time ranging from a month to 6 months. Matt will also not leave WWE without taking Lita with him. Lita is happy with her current status in WWE right now so it is not going to happen most likely.

[Colorado Cajun]

Matt's happy where he is. He takes the business really seriously and is still one of the WWE's brightest stars. He does need to come back into a good, strong angle though

[ilovecandace]

what ever happened to mordicia i thought that maybe he would be more it to a story line or what happedn to scott stiner and nathan jones?

[IamMrDJ]

what ever happened to mordicia i thought that maybe he would be more it to a story line or what happedn to scott stiner and nathan jones?

Nathon Jones pulled a Lesner before it was even a term. Jones came back from filming his scene in Troy and was starting to get a big push when out of nowhere he decided to quit and go back to Australia. He had some troubles though beforehand. While waiting in line at the airport once in NY he said "I Hope I don't have a bomb." Bomb is not a word you use at an airport so that got him in some hot water. He was also talked to a few times about being a stiff wrestler and being too rough on some wrestlers.

Steiner has been on the DL quite awhile adn will probably stay there for some time. Hopefully when his contract expires WWE will drop him like a bad habit.

[sniktawt]

yeah but Shannon should not be just on Velocity. He is an awesome talent and can do amazing things in the ring. He should be a regular on SD or in a tag team on Raw with another mid card talent

Those wins will get him on there against Spike , whether he does anything is anyone's guess.

[ilovecandace]

hey man thanks for the info ...................by the way where do u get it

[sniktawt]

DJ is a behind the scenes guy for WWE.
He never reveals it because he's too modest.
He 's probably on the Phone right now touching up storylines with Vinnie mac himself.;)

[Inval1d]

DJ convinced Vince to drop the pregnant angle with lita :D

[IamMrDJ]

DJ convinced Vince to drop the pregnant angle with lita :D

NOw that is not true. I threatened to Sue Vince because the Idea for the Angle was my Idea but it involved me impregnating Lita not Kane. After he went with Kane as the father I threatened to sue him.

[sniktawt]

You did Hire my boy Snitsky tho , so Your aces in my book , DJ!!;)

[Inval1d]

he is also the main guy for anything involving Mae Young :D

[IamMrDJ]

he is also the main guy for anything involving Mae Young :D

OK now that is going way to far. If you really think I am the one involving Mae Young in anything maybe I wil just send her to your house to perfomr a striptease. I am sure you will like that ;)

[Inval1d]

oh god....that reminds me of the Tough Enough challenge a week ago... *vomits*

[ilovecandace]

who do u think will win the tough enough challenege i think puter will win

[ChaCho]

Right now anyone who wins is good, the remaining four are very good athletes i think.
DJ you a guy backstage for real?
coz if u do u must be the most knowledgeable
poster here
;) :D

[Inval1d]

there has been talks of this years TE is fixed.

[Colorado Cajun]

it is fixed. It's a guarantee that if they keep performing that Puter, Reeves, Justice, and yes even Miz will all get some sort of developmental contracts. Puter is the one who can easily be a star in the shortest amount of time though. He can pull off the same type of role that Shamrock did

the others will need to be in OVW for a few years first

[ilovecandace]

tonights show stunkso far i was really wanting an over the top title match

[LS2002]

Ok Everybody who is the Champion? I think it was Benoit he tapped before that 3rd count came down.

[Colorado Cajun]

Tonight's show was pretty lame from start to finish

All I can say is they better damn well not make HHH champ again since there was no clear winner

[chewie]

I also was looking forward to the battle royal being for the title. A little disappointed when I saw they were changing it. What they will do is have a rematch probably. Of course Jericho will probably want a piece of that also. I do kind of like this "everybody going for the title" thing the WWE is going with now. A lot better than just one or two guys.

[Colorado Cajun]

honestly I"m hoping they'll hold up the title and have a tournament for it or make it Edge vs Benoit for the title next week

[ilovecandace]

i believe edge won it because the bell rang beofre he taPED FOR THE THIRD TIME

[sniktawt]

The title will probably be held up , surely a Benoit/Edge rematch because there was
, no clear winner and if they do give it to Edge , expect that company to close a few weeks later , Edge is not world title material , he's a lame ass mid carder who probably cried to the Higher ups that he deserves a title push , due to the lack of talent in the company now they obliged.

What's next give Val Venis and Viscera Title pushes ?;)

[ilovecandace]

lol he did cry alot i cant stand it bu ti think he won and i ahte to say it but it's true

[jbailey84]

The title will probably be held up , surely a Benoit/Edge rematch because there was
, no clear winner and if they do give it to Edge , expect that company to close a few weeks later , Edge is not world title material , he's a lame ass mid carder who probably cried to the Higher ups that he deserves a title push , due to the lack of talent in the company now they obliged. the thing i dont get, Edge says he's never had a WWE Title shot, but I remember when Smackdown had a House Show in Abilene, TX November 2002, he and The Big Show(Champion at the time) were feuding for the title? :confused: I agree, Edge is not World Title material. just Intercontinental material. maybe on Raw is Jericho next week we'll see a rematch

[ilovecandace]

i agree too u kn ow i remeber that match he almost beet the big show but paul haymean intrefeard wow that was like two years aog

[Colorado Cajun]

The title will probably be held up , surely a Benoit/Edge rematch because there was
, no clear winner and if they do give it to Edge , expect that company to close a few weeks later , Edge is not world title material , he's a lame ass mid carder who probably cried to the Higher ups that he deserves a title push , due to the lack of talent in the company now they obliged.

What's next give Val Venis and Viscera Title pushes ?;)
you're kidding right? Snik Snik Snik

Edge has been one of the best things the WWE has had to offer since he arrived years ago. He was big time with The Brood, even bigger time with Christian, one of the best IC Champions ever, and would be a damn good WWE Champion. He's great on the stick, outstanding in the ring, and has one of the best characters ever in the WWE

[Rogue]

.....and he's hot. ;)

[Colorado Cajun]

.....and he's hot. ;)
yeah that too :D

[sniktawt]

you're kidding right? Snik Snik Snik

Edge has been one of the best things the WWE has had to offer since he arrived years ago. He was big time with The Brood, even bigger time with Christian, one of the best IC Champions ever, and would be a damn good WWE Champion. He's great on the stick, outstanding in the ring, and has one of the best characters ever in the WWE

Edge is so lame it's sinful.

[Se7en the movie]

you're kidding right? Snik Snik Snik

Edge has been one of the best things the WWE has had to offer since he arrived years ago. He was big time with The Brood, even bigger time with Christian, one of the best IC Champions ever, and would be a damn good WWE Champion. He's great on the stick, outstanding in the ring, and has one of the best characters ever in the WWE


What exactly is his character? I cant even remember his time as IC Champ. But i will agree he was great with christian and genius on the mic when in that team.


Oh and The Brood ruled.

[jbailey84]

Edge's character is......um.........hmmmmm..........yeah The Brood was awesome! like it when they were with the Undertaker's Ministery of Darkness. what was i talking about again? oh yeah, Edge's character....

[Se7en the movie]

Seems WWE are interested in Birchell (I don't think this was mentioned here before), if you haven't seen him, he is from FWA and is quite brilliant. A guy as big as Brock Lesner but can do standing shooting star presses and backflips splashes (ala RVD). He is truly impressive.

[Rogue]

Edge is so lame it's sinful.

*searches for the ban button* What was that, snik? ;)

[ilovecandace]

lo

[Colorado Cajun]

Edge is so lame it's sinful.
this coming from the man who likes ****sky :P

[chewie]

I don't have anything against Edge. He's pretty decent in the ring. I wish he would use something else as a finisher besides the spear. Tall, slender guys shouldn't use the spear as a finisher, maybe a set-up move and that's it.

[carnage4u]

what happened monday night?
they changed the battle royal for title?

[ChaCho]

Edge is a great wrestler, it was real cool when he came back, i was happy, but now that role he has, damn, its annoying, man it pisses me of .... " I should be the champion blah blah blah" its gay man damn.
Also neither Benoit nor Edge won, edge started tappin' out just when he counted to three, i wish they make this like a KOTR kind of thing, a tournament for the World title, the eight people should be, umm, Edge, Benoit, Jericho, Batista, HBK, HHH, Orton because the stipulation is gone now, and Snitsky. that would be real nice. HBK winning of course, 'coz im tellin yall, HBK WILL BE THE NEXT WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION.

[chewie]

HBK WILL BE THE NEXT WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION.

I don't think so.

[filmstudent04]

ya cho shmo needs to cool his jets wit hbk thing...he's more of a guy who pushes others now...i mean he was great and still is great ya buut wwe is lookin to its younger generation to start carrying the torch..so i dont think hbk will be getting the title ne time soon..even if all of us fans want him to(remembering the glory days of dx..sighhhh)

[sniktawt]

(remembering the glory days of dx..sighhhh)

That was what ? Just 7 measly years ago , That My friend is certainly not the Glory Days. ;)

[filmstudent04]

ya i know...just reminiscing

[ilovecandace]

but that was back when it was the wwf so it is glory days

[LS2002]

Is anybody thinking that we will see HHH vs Batista at New Years Revolution or even at the Royal Rumble? I mean he is still hinting at a turn when Flair asked him if he was just going to lie down if he won the battle royal and he said nothing. And then there was that part where Orton threw Batista and Flair both out and Batista just laughed when he went up the ramp.

[ilovecandace]

i hoping it will happen that would be a good match....i am starting to become a fan of batista

[ChaCho]

I always liked with Batista, especially when he had that lil role with Goldberg, that was tyte, he should turn on them and fast, like make a nice impact by making HHH loose the title, i also know that WWE is trying to make youn' talents rise, but HBK still has a lot to offer and he will be the next World Champion, i know its annoyin and ****, but just watch, if you all didnt notice, HBK deserved the World Title all of this year, and was cheated out of it one way or another, he will be. ;) just watch.

[IamMrDJ]

but that was back when it was the wwf so it is glory days

Again why does it matter that thier name was WWF. HOw does that make it the glory days. Hell 7 years ago I was still in high school waiting to get my first job. Wrestling has always been wrestling to me. 7 years ago was when WWF was losing in a ratings battle week in and week out to WCW. It was not until the Raw after WrestleMania with Mike Tyson that WWF saw the turn around that it did.

And ChaCho no I am not a backstage guy with the WWE. I wish I was but I am just a loyal and diehard fan for almost the last 20 years.

[ilovecandace]

u know u always have something smart to see i wish u would shut the f$$$up man ur getting on my nerves .....it was the glory days back when it was the wwf EVEN MY MOM THINKS THAT ........................whenever the became one nig company i went away as a fan but when vince brought back hulk hogan i began watching it again and now im starting not to like it cause it is getting so preditcable

[Colorado Cajun]

u know u always have something smart to see i wish u would shut the f$$$up man ur getting on my nerves .....it was the glory days back when it was the wwf EVEN MY MOM THINKS THAT ........................whenever the became one nig company i went away as a fan but when vince brought back hulk hogan i began watching it again and now im starting not to like it cause it is getting so preditcable
how old are you?

[IamMrDJ]

u know u always have something smart to see i wish u would shut the f$$$up man ur getting on my nerves .....it was the glory days back when it was the wwf EVEN MY MOM THINKS THAT ........................whenever the became one nig company i went away as a fan but when vince brought back hulk hogan i began watching it again and now im starting not to like it cause it is getting so preditcable

Wow you are the same age as my brother and even he does not freak out as easy as you do. You may not like what I have to say but guess what, you cannot get me to stop. This is a public message board and well this is one subject I am very fond of and very intelligent about. Also, I really don't pay attention to orders given to me by someone 4 years younger then me. You have been here a few months and think you run the joint. Look, I have more posts in this thread then you have total. If someone misquotes or misrepresents an older fact related to wrestling I will point out the mistake because I do not like people who present false information. That is good your mom thought that wrestling was in its glory days 7 years ago, how long has she been watching it?

You say you did not like WWE when they became the one wrestling company around until they brought Hogan back. My question to you is, did Hogan really make a difference as a whole during his return. Yes he put on a few god matches against very good talent and also had his grudge match against Vince but that was about it. He was brought back to re-join the NWO and we all saw how well that went. It went down the toilet pretty fast.

Also, take a look at what you are typing before posting because half the time I can barely make out half of what you are saying.

[ilovecandace]

ok whatever by the way age means nothing

[IamMrDJ]

ok whatever by the way age means nothing

Well knowledge and experience sure do.

[ilovecandace]

.u think i care?

[IamMrDJ]

Hey I am not the one telling you to shut up, that was all you.

[ilovecandace]

Hey I am not the one telling you to shut up, that was all you.
... i dont recall telling my self to shutup............................but anyways

[sniktawt]

To me the Glory Days were when Deacon Batista , "Insert Whatever Stripped Spandex" John Cena , Brock Lesner and Maven all debuted.;)

Now that goes waaaaay back;)

[IamMrDJ]

To me the Glory Days were when Deacon Batista , "Insert Whatever Stripped Spandex" John Cena , Brock Lesner and Maven all debuted.;)

Now that goes waaaaay back;)

Don't forget around that time was the Chuck and Billy "Tag-Team" Angle with Rico as thier manager. :D

[sniktawt]

LOL , Don't forget Rev.D-VON !!!and his failed tag team with Ron Simmons.;)

[IamMrDJ]

I jsut remembered another Glory day tag Team. T&A with Trish as the manager.

[sniktawt]

Lo Down With Tiger Singh !!!

D'Lo and Chaz in Turbins!!!LMAO!! ;)
Those were the Days.

And I can't Forget Los Boricuas and Their 100 year feud with D.O.A.;)

[sniktawt]

how old are you?

I think he's 6;)

[IamMrDJ]

What about Beaver Cleavage or the very very short lived Gimmick with Steph's Personal Trainer Muffy or B.B.

[IamMrDJ]

I just had the ultimate flashback to the Glory Days.

How could anyone ever think the WWE could get any better then
The RTC featuring Steven Richards, Goodfather, Val Venis, Bull Buchanan and Ivory.

[IamMrDJ]

Is anybody thinking that we will see HHH vs Batista at New Years Revolution or even at the Royal Rumble? I mean he is still hinting at a turn when Flair asked him if he was just going to lie down if he won the battle royal and he said nothing. And then there was that part where Orton threw Batista and Flair both out and Batista just laughed when he went up the ramp.

I saw the Poster for New Years Revolution and it features Batista on it. This leads to some people speculating that we could see Batista going up against Triple H or headlining the PPV in some way.

Also Royal Rumble falls on January 30th next year. It is the week after the AFC and NFC Championsip Games and a week before the SuperBowl.

[sniktawt]

I think he's 6;)


**** I meant 16.sorry.

[sniktawt]

I saw the Poster for New Years Revolution and it features Batista on it. This leads to some people speculating that we could see Batista going up against Triple H or headlining the PPV in some way.



That's not usually True tho , Kane was featured on a few PPV posters and He was in The Mid card and The Big Show is on this one for the Next SD PPV and he's not Headlining it or anything.

Torrie was on The Great American Bash Poster and she never Headlined.
Batista may be In there in some capacity but the Poster Headliner isn't always the main eventer.

[IamMrDJ]

That's not usually True tho , Kane was featured on a few PPV posters and He was in The Mid card and The Big Show is on this one for the Next SD PPV and he's not Headlining it or anything.

Torrie was on The Great American Bash Poster and she never Headlined.
Batista may be In there in some capacity but the Poster Headliner isn't always the main eventer.

Your right but with the way the seem to be hinting at things it could go that way. You are right though about headlining a poster adn not the event.

[sniktawt]

What about Beaver Cleavage or the very very short lived Gimmick with Steph's Personal Trainer Muffy or B.B.


That was Just horrendously great!!

Then Chaz started with his gimmick of a "Guy Who just wants to have fun" wearing his Smilie Boxers losing each week on Jakked.Then he got in that terrible angle where he beat his woman Marianna up.

Then he became a Headbanger again , then he hooked with D'lo Without Turbin complete with Track pants then they found Tiger and wore turbins and the Rest is Toilet bowl material.

He had more bad gimmicks than rikishi.lol.Heck they were both Sheiks.;)

[sniktawt]

Your right but with the way the seem to be hinting at things it could go that way. You are right though about headlining a poster adn not the event.

Well they are hinting at a huge push , Batista's getting better , He may be ready.His mic work has improved 100% since coming in back in Spring 2002 with D-Von.
Being with Flair has helped him big time.

[IamMrDJ]

Well they are hinting at a huge push , Batista's getting better , He may be ready.His mic work has improved 100% since coming in back in Spring 2002 with D-Von.
Being with Flair has helped him big time.

SInce his return last year when he came back and attacked Goldberg (which I had to re-watch a few times because it looked like he destroyed Biily Boy) he has really grown in to his character and has really focused on his skills like you said in and out of the ring. HE is a big guy who was not rushed to the spotlight and to the gold but instead was trained and groomed which in the long run could pay out more then they could have hoped for.

[IamMrDJ]

I remember an article I read last year that Alex Marvez did about Batista. He wrote about BAtista home life and about his succession of injuries. In the article he interviewed BAtista who said that if he did not get injured and then re-injured while jogging that he might no longer be married. Batista said that during his rehab he saw how much he was missing at home while on the road and how much he was neglecting his family. Batista spent most of his rehab time rebuilding his relationships at home and he stills has strong relationships today. I thoguht taht it was interesting that he got in to wrestling after meeting Animal and Mr. Perfect ata body building show. WCW initially gave him a Try-out but passed on him and WWE snagged him up for OVW. Well I guess you can add Batista up as another big miss by WCW.

[Birdy]

I saw the Poster for New Years Revolution and it features Batista on it. This leads to some people speculating that we could see Batista going up against Triple H or headlining the PPV in some way.



They put together those posters months before they start planning the PPV's. So Batista being on that poster could mean nothing. Especially when if you think about it they are gonna hold off for a minute on him turning on Triple H. Their gonna milk it for awhile.

[sniktawt]

Yeah Trips was in WCW and was dropped after just a few months , jeesh he was losing on WCW Saturday Night To Buddy Lee Parker and lost a lot to Alex Wright , Now look at him.

[jbailey84]

i dont mean to sound all cocky or something, but i think its funny when just a few months ago i said that they should give Batista a push, they are. just like May 2003 i said that it would be interesting to see Brock Lesnar and Goldberg fight, it happend March 2004 :D

[chewie]

just like May 2003 i said that it would be interesting to see Brock Lesnar and Goldberg fight, it happend March 2004 :D


Yeah, that one was a tough call.

[ChaCho]

Everything in wrestling comes to the way the roles are made.
Batista, he came in with D-Von and admit it, no one wanted to see him, he left and came back with a great impact, you see that kind of impact and you know the man is gonna get something good in the long run.
He has beaten many great wrestlers, and the way they are hinting abot it now makes it the more obvious. All he has done all leads to trun against HHH, but headlining a PPV aint gonna happen, not anymore anyways.
He would have headlined if HHH was gonna stick around but he will eventually leave to promote Blade III, now he will probably go on some other match probably against Flair. that be good. Than he probably would go against whoever is the next World Champion. Then he might main event, the Royal Rumble probably.

[IamMrDJ]

Everything in wrestling comes to the way the roles are made.
Batista, he came in with D-Von and admit it, no one wanted to see him, he left and came back with a great impact, you see that kind of impact and you know the man is gonna get something good in the long run.
He has beaten many great wrestlers, and the way they are hinting abot it now makes it the more obvious. All he has done all leads to trun against HHH, but headlining a PPV aint gonna happen, not anymore anyways.
He would have headlined if HHH was gonna stick around but he will eventually leave to promote Blade III, now he will probably go on some other match probably against Flair. that be good. Than he probably would go against whoever is the next World Champion. Then he might main event, the Royal Rumble probably.

I do not know how much promotion Triple H will be doing for Blade: Trinity seeing that it opens her ein the states and in the UK next week. The Premiere was the other night. Usually if you are going to be doing press for a movie you do it leading up to the release of the movie. I can still see BAtista headlinging a PPV in the next 4-6 months but it will not be a joint PPV unless they start pushing it now. It is hard for a wrestler to headline a joint PPV without enough lead time to build up thier character. Royal Rumble is in a little less then 2 months. If they want Batista to be the next World Champ at the Rumble they need to start pushing for it now. New Years Revolution is still a possibility for him seeing that at the smaller PPV's you do not have to have a World Title Match as the headlining event (Look at some of the old IN Your House PPV's from the Glory Days)

[sniktawt]

It's so funny seeing Arn Anderson , Dean Malenko , and SKINNER (LOL) running out to stop THE Orton /Edge Brawl.
Seems every old dude is a road agent now.lol.

I think Christian should keep the Captain Charisma Costume , it's hilarious.

[IamMrDJ]

It's so funny seeing Arn Anderson , Dean Malenko , and SKINNER (LOL) running out to stop THE Orton /Edge Brawl.
Seems every old dude is a road agent now.lol.

I think Christian should keep the Captain Charisma Costume , it's hilarious.

Well just think if Ron Simmons was not fired he would be runing down there as well.

Rumors are floating around that recently signed Chilly Willy might move up the OVW ladder pretty fast and be brought in to the WWE to face off the Arab American. Chilly Willy recently returned from Iraq.

[sniktawt]

I still don't see what You guys see in Batista , he's not ready for any push , imo.
He's stiff and has zero Charisma.

[IamMrDJ]

I still don't see what You guys see in Batista , he's not ready for any push , imo.
He's stiff and has zero Charisma.

Did you say no Charisma?

Maybe he should have a talk with Capitan Charisma (The outfit was great. It reminded me of Rosey's Super Hero In Training Costume)

[sniktawt]

I liked The Captain Charisma Costume , it reminded me of the old Masked Jobbers from Saturday Morning Superstars back in the 80's.

[IamMrDJ]

I liked The Captain Charisma Costume , it reminded me of the old Masked Jobbers from Saturday Morning Superstars back in the 80's.

It also reminded me of The Blue Blazer costume that Owen use to wear.

[sniktawt]

Yep it did ,I can see The WWE keeping the Charisma Costume tho , it could be a funny angle.

WWE.COM is getting pretty quick with their updates recently , They got the Lita Championship pic up just minutes after she won it.
But it helps , knowing the results.lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/sniktawts/WWEBIOSDEC62004.jpg

[filmstudent04]

the clock is ticking down before batista finally leaves evolution....and was it just me or didnt ne one else lovvve hhh's role this week. he's gotten a lottt of **** being known that he has a lot of push behind the scenes but lately he makes himself look vulnerable...lotta respect for him. Also what do people think of maven's heel turn, idk if i like it....hahah and captain charisma...wow. and for once i actually think it was cool to have the women's title as the main event..killer match. rko and edge... idk what to think on this one just yet..

[Colorado Cajun]

not a bad Raw at all

also man I hope lita is ok. That landing on the suicide dive was brutal

[TakingDown]

A woman's main event is really surprising to me. I think it goes to show that the WWE is working on the WWWE (Womens World Wrestling Entertainment) Good bye dudes in tights, hello DOA-IRL! :D

[sniktawt]

Yeah the Lita Trish match was definately one of the top 20 matches in the WWE of 2004.
Very Impressive.

[chewie]

That was one of the best women's matches in a long time.

[sniktawt]

Yeah , Too bad it happened in December , It could have been a contender for PWI match of the year but the deadline for that was in November.
Also The NWA-TNA 6 sides of steel with AMW AND XXX which was The best match of 2004 missed the deadline as well.

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah , Too bad it happened in December , It could have been a contender for PWI match of the year but the deadline for that was in November.
Also The NWA-TNA 6 sides of steel with AMW AND XXX which was The best match of 2004 missed the deadline as well.

I read the results from the PPV the other Night SNik adn that match sounded like it was off the hook.

[ilovecandace]

hey who won the match between the crusierwieghts on lastnight smack down

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Funaki

[Se7en the movie]

A good smackdown AND a great main even on RAW? Holy crap, what will we see next undertaker take the title at armageddon?!?

[IamMrDJ]

OK so I got this off of Rajah.com last night and thought it was interesting.

Brock Lesnar Considering Return To Wrestling?
Filed under: News- Brian Cantor @ 10:13 pm EST

* In what could be potentially breaking news, Sid Hartman of the Minneapolis Tribune provided an ambiguous statement in his article that hinted at a return for former WWE headliner Brock Lesnar:

“Friends of former Gophers and pro wrestler Brock Lesnar say he is ready to make a comeback.”

While the statement is extremely vague and never gave the identity of to what Brock Lesnar was considering returning, one can only assume the article was referring to pro wrestling. Although Lesnar gave the NFL a shot, a return to professional wrestling, what he recently truly ‘left,’ is the only “comeback” that would make sense.

No further word is available on Lesnar’s wrestling return, but with Royal Rumble and WrestleMania just a few months away, now would be an ideal time for a comeback.


So he realized that he could not make it in the NFL and now wants to come back to the WWE. If VInce takes him back which I am sure he will then they better not push the guy to the top right away or his head will grow once again and he will want to leave once again. They need to give this guy some more in-ring training as well as mic training before he moves up the ladder again.

[jbailey84]

^^^ yeah true. i honestly won't mind seeing Brock come back

[ilovecandace]

u know waht would be cool if kurts angles *invatation went to minneastota and then he said something about the hometown hero ........out comes brock ....that would be a good return match

[Se7en the movie]

Anyone ever notice that Heat frequently have better matches then the ones on Smackdown or RAW. Also 'The Coach' is a far better colour commentator then The King, who is starting to get a little stale as of late.

[ChaCho]

Aiight Yall Armaggedon is tonight so make the picks now!



Fatal Four Way for the WWE Championship.
JBl vs Eddie Guerrero vs Booker T vs The Undertaker - The Undertaker of course.

WWE Tag Team Championship match.
Rey Mysterio & RVD vs Rene Dupree & Kenzo Suzuki - Rey & RVD

United States Championship match.
John Cena vs Jesus - I LOVE the way Cena is, but he can't be 100%, and you need to be 100% when you go in a street fight, unfortunely i see Jesus winning the match :(

Dawn Marie vs Miss Jackie Special Guest Referre Charlie Hass
There is no winner in this match because is only gonna be a cat fight hahaha :cool: , but i see Haas doing something nice and prohibited to Dawn Marie :nono:

Handicap Match Big Show vs Kurt Angle/ Mark Jindrak/ Luther Reigns
The Big Show is Incredibly a great wrestler and he will win the match.

Dixie Dog Fight match
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha i dont even care. :cool:

Cruserwheight Title match
Funaki vs Spike Dudley - DAMN Funaki deserves this match and the title i hope the Dudley Boyz dont mess it for him, I really hope he wins.

[ChaCho]

Also Brock Lesnar coming back nice, will make a great competitor to The Undertaker once he becomes WWE Champion

[sniktawt]

Funaki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

FINALLY Wins The Cruiserweight Title!!!

Indeed!!!

Updated SD Champions...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/sniktawt/WWEBIOSSDCHAMPIONSDEC122004.jpg

[Se7en the movie]

Brilliant! What it a good event? Cause I gotta admit on paper I was actually looking forward to this one.

[sniktawt]

It was good ,about as good as last weeks
TNA PPV
, I'm not a SD fan so I wasn't looking forward to it but I get the PPV for free so I gave it a chance and it was alright.
There were a few crap matches , especially the Bashems Vs.Holly/Haas , The pathetic Tough Enough boxing match and the Women's waste match .

The crowd was pretty dead though.

The West Side Story Royal Rumble Promo was one of the best promos they ever aired.It was Hilarious.

[ilovecandace]

jbl is a ****ing cheater

[Se7en the movie]

He retained! Fantastic!

[ChaCho]

I HATE JBL LIKE HE WAS AN ITCH ON MY BALLS, HE CANT NEVER MAKE HIM WIN A TITLE MATCH ON HIS OWN. MAN I HOPE HE DIES SO A FAIR CHAMPION CAN COME UP TO DEFEND IT. MAN that title was Undertaker's, it was his,damn.

[filmstudent04]

the chambers back...idk who to call on this one...i kinda think maybe batista might win it or possibly thats is where evolution will end finally

[Colorado Cajun]

here's who I think will walk out of the chamber as champion in order of first choice to third

Benoit
Orton
Batista

here's who I'd like in the same order
Batista
Jericho
Orton

It was a good Raw tonight on all levels imo

[ilovecandace]

it sucked three matches?
or 4 come on

[chewie]

It was good seeing Mick Foley again.

[Mr. TV]

man all i have to say is that i want carmela decesare back. haha.

[ilovecandace]

lol i agree but she needs to learn how tomake a speech

[filmstudent04]

idk i thought foley's speach was kinda distasteful...i dont really like politics in the wwe, and especially did not like muhammed coming out and foley and him feuding. Did like hhh's pathetic role though this week, really showed how much he cares about that dang belt. I personally think that wwe has got too many faces right now, they need some good established heels and some fresh rivalries. If brock did come back i kinda think it would be good for him to go to raw to feud with hhh...they've never fought before, might be pretty good...and also i kinda think benoit needs to go back to smackdown to feud with either jbl or taker...cuz in my opinion taker needs to fight guys with good technical qualities...benoit and him could be a good matchup

[Colorado Cajun]

it sucked three matches?
or 4 come on
umm the matches were all damn good and lasted for more than three minutes. I don't know what kind of show you want

[jbailey84]

idk i thought foley's speach was kinda distasteful...i dont really like politics in the wwe, and especially did not like muhammed coming out and foley and him feuding. Did like hhh's pathetic role though this week, really showed how much he cares about that dang belt. I personally think that wwe has got too many faces right now, they need some good established heels and some fresh rivalries. If brock did come back i kinda think it would be good for him to go to raw to feud with hhh...they've never fought before, might be pretty good...and also i kinda think benoit needs to go back to smackdown to feud with either jbl or taker...cuz in my opinion taker needs to fight guys with good technical qualities...benoit and him could be a good matchup not to be rude, but how long did take for you to realize how much HHH cared about the World Title? like i said, didnt mean to sound rude. the Brock HHH feud can work or Brock and Batista can work too if done right. guess we'll find out at the Royal Rumble on Brock

[filmstudent04]

ya i knew how much the world title meant to hhh...i meant it like it was weird to see him vulnerable without it..thats all. it wasnt rude...it was just hard to explain it at the time

[ChaCho]

DAMN Angle almost won that WWE Championship, man i wished he would have won.
But now the Big Show is after the title, he better win that. Imagine this, BIg Show vs The Undertaker at Wrestlemania 21 for the WWE Championship.
Read around also that HBK comes back just in time for the Royal Rumble.
Brock Lesnar is coming back at the Royal too? nice, yes he should go to RAW fight with all those guys he hasnt fought, like HHH, HBK, Batista, Orton, that would be nice.

[Se7en the movie]

DAMN Angle almost won that WWE Championship, man i wished he would have won.
But now the Big Show is after the title, he better win that. Imagine this, BIg Show vs The Undertaker at Wrestlemania 21 for the WWE Championship.
Read around also that HBK comes back just in time for the Royal Rumble.
Brock Lesnar is coming back at the Royal too? nice, yes he should go to RAW fight with all those guys he hasnt fought, like HHH, HBK, Batista, Orton, that would be nice.

Brock going to RAW would make no sense, since RAW already have too many headliners to deal with.

[filmstudent04]

i actually think it would make perfect sense i mean he hasnt really fought anyone over there that are big names and it would make some really great matches and i personally think that benoit needs to go back to smackdown because his gimmick of "i worked hard for 18 years to get the title belt.." and "i made my dream come true at wrestlemania!" idk to me its getting kinda old i mean i like benoit but i think he could have some good matches over at smackdown and maybe feud wit jbl or even taker which would make some really great matches.

[jbailey84]

^^^ agree.

anyone read about a possible ECW PPV in June? from Onlinewrestling.com newsletter

ECW PPV RUMORED FOR JUNE
- Rumors are running wild that WWE is preparing a one time ECW
pay-per-view to be held on June 5th at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New
York. The 12,000 square foot Hammerstein at Manhattan Center Studios was
the site for the last ECW PPV under the direction of Paul Heyman.
There's not much information about this pay-per-view yet and who will be
in charge or what will go down but considering the success of the ECW
DVD and the amount of ex ECW wrestlers on WWE payroll the PPV could be
one of the best things - financially - for the company.

[ChaCho]

See the thing is that Benoit has been on SmackDown! for a while now, and trading to RAW was a great choice. if he goes to SmackDown! who will he feud? JBL yeah maybe for a while, then stop. Undertaker, that wont make such a great headline. Big Show they fought before. There really isnt much of a role for Benoit in SmackDown!. In RAW he can still develop nice rivalries. With HBK, Kane, maybe even Mick Foley when he is traded back.

[IamMrDJ]

i actually think it would make perfect sense i mean he hasnt really fought anyone over there that are big names and it would make some really great matches and i personally think that benoit needs to go back to smackdown because his gimmick of "i worked hard for 18 years to get the title belt.." and "i made my dream come true at wrestlemania!" idk to me its getting kinda old i mean i like benoit but i think he could have some good matches over at smackdown and maybe feud wit jbl or even taker which would make some really great matches.

Benoit's "I worked hard for 18 years" really is not a gimmick it is the truth. Also he does not play off of it every single time he is on air like Edge does now with the "I have never been Champ" routine. Lesner going to Raw would not make sense. Look at what hapened to Goldberg. He would get buried in the pool of more deserving and better trained talent (Moonsault anyone). Benoit was on SD since he returned from injury adn did have some good matches but he has had some great matches on Raw as well since joining the roster. The match between him and HBK back in May I believe it was, was a great match and a candidate for match of the year in my book. Benoit does not do good aginst large wrestlers though like Big Show or Undertaker. He is a more technical wrestler and is suited better against guys more his size like Triple H, HBK or Edge. Those wrestlers are also better prepared to put on the type of match that Benoit works well in. UNdertaker is not a very good Technical wrestler he is a hard hitting guy who just goes blow for blow with guys. I mean the match between him and JBL at SummerSlam was just back and forth Punches and Kicks there was no real technical skills in the match.


anyone read about a possible ECW PPV in June? from Onlinewrestling.com newsletter

This has been rumored for awhile now. It is less likely to happen now though. Paul Heyman was taken off of the SD writing team a couple weeks back out of the blue. He has also not been at the last 2 SD tapings which is very unusual for him. The closest we might get to a ECW PPV is at the No Way Out PPV in Feb. There is rumored to be a Barb Wire Steel Cage Match.


See the thing is that Benoit has been on SmackDown! for a while now, and trading to RAW was a great choice. if he goes to SmackDown! who will he feud? JBL yeah maybe for a while, then stop. Undertaker, that wont make such a great headline. Big Show they fought before. There really isnt much of a role for Benoit in SmackDown!. In RAW he can still develop nice rivalries. With HBK, Kane, maybe even Mick Foley when he is traded back.

Don't look for Foley to return full time. He is not interested in a full time in-ring return. HE was only on Raw this week because he was there to promote his visit to see the Troops which he really does love doing. The best we moght get is a match at Mania which si a toss up right now. Foley almost did not go on the air last week because early in the show Ric Flair adn FOley almost came to blows after they got in to an arguement. The two men do have some ill will towards one another after Flair called Foley more of a Stunt-man then a wrestler in his book.

Filmstudent, you say you do not like politics being involved in the WWE. Well guess what Politics are involved everywhere. So what if a guy makes a political comment on air. Foley said one on Monday night that went against the crowd adn you know what he reacted to it in a light-hearted fashion.

Lastly, it is looking more and more like Lesner will not be returning to WWE by Rumble. Lesner has made it known to the WWE that he is interested in coming back but the WWE is not ready to bring him back yet. They are still unsure about bringing back a guy who turned his back on them so abruptly earlier this year. NOw that his plans for the NFL did not work out he wants to come back. Some inside the WWE are wondering how long before he decides to leave again. The WWE has until the end of MArch to make up thier mind about Brock. That is when his year-long no-compete clause runs out and he is able to sign with TNA or go overseas to wrestle in Japan. I think that the WWE might also be a little concerned about getting involved with him again as he is engaged to Rena Mero (Sable) who they let go a few months back yet again.

[slinger]

I guess its up to Vince if he wants to make money off Lesner or some other company. He'll get true heat that's for sure. Probably wouldn't last too long unless he has accepted that this is what he's going to have to do for a few years.

[FVD]

What!!! Lesnar's coming back??? I'm not surprised at all. And what??? He's engaged to Rena Mero??? Bloody hell. She's like 10 years older than him. Ah well good on him.

FVD.

[filmstudent04]

Benoit's "I worked hard for 18 years" really is not a gimmick it is the truth. Also he does not play off of it every single time he is on air like Edge does now with the "I have never been Champ" routine. Lesner going to Raw would not make sense. Look at what hapened to Goldberg. He would get buried in the pool of more deserving and better trained talent (Moonsault anyone). Benoit was on SD since he returned from injury adn did have some good matches but he has had some great matches on Raw as well since joining the roster. The match between him and HBK back in May I believe it was, was a great match and a candidate for match of the year in my book. Benoit does not do good aginst large wrestlers though like Big Show or Undertaker. He is a more technical wrestler and is suited better against guys more his size like Triple H, HBK or Edge. Those wrestlers are also better prepared to put on the type of match that Benoit works well in. UNdertaker is not a very good Technical wrestler he is a hard hitting guy who just goes blow for blow with guys. I mean the match between him and JBL at SummerSlam was just back and forth Punches and Kicks there was no real technical skills in the match.



This has been rumored for awhile now. It is less likely to happen now though. Paul Heyman was taken off of the SD writing team a couple weeks back out of the blue. He has also not been at the last 2 SD tapings which is very unusual for him. The closest we might get to a ECW PPV is at the No Way Out PPV in Feb. There is rumored to be a Barb Wire Steel Cage Match.




Don't look for Foley to return full time. He is not interested in a full time in-ring return. HE was only on Raw this week because he was there to promote his visit to see the Troops which he really does love doing. The best we moght get is a match at Mania which si a toss up right now. Foley almost did not go on the air last week because early in the show Ric Flair adn FOley almost came to blows after they got in to an arguement. The two men do have some ill will towards one another after Flair called Foley more of a Stunt-man then a wrestler in his book.

Filmstudent, you say you do not like politics being involved in the WWE. Well guess what Politics are involved everywhere. So what if a guy makes a political comment on air. Foley said one on Monday night that went against the crowd adn you know what he reacted to it in a light-hearted fashion.

Lastly, it is looking more and more like Lesner will not be returning to WWE by Rumble. Lesner has made it known to the WWE that he is interested in coming back but the WWE is not ready to bring him back yet. They are still unsure about bringing back a guy who turned his back on them so abruptly earlier this year. NOw that his plans for the NFL did not work out he wants to come back. Some inside the WWE are wondering how long before he decides to leave again. The WWE has until the end of MArch to make up thier mind about Brock. That is when his year-long no-compete clause runs out and he is able to sign with TNA or go overseas to wrestle in Japan. I think that the WWE might also be a little concerned about getting involved with him again as he is engaged to Rena Mero (Sable) who they let go a few months back yet again.

Ha i just knew my comments would somewhat stir dj. I am fully aware that Benoit's hard work is not a gimmick and is the truth, however, I do feel that with so many people after the title belt that the gimmicks have all gotten a little shall we say whiny. I still stand by that Benoit to me seems like he is always basing his whines towards how he lived his dream at wrestlemania...to me it has gotten old as well as other gimmicks from the wrestlers. It would be very nice to see someone else step into a role like HHH's and be the dominant one or even to see HHH as a face again. It does seem though, Mrdj, that whenever someone makes an opinion, that you tend to respond with a "I've watched longer than you and know more than you" type of attitude. It is almost as if you look down upon everyone else on this forum. I do think that Benoit going back to smackdown would make perfect sense mainly because he is a big name wrestler and could easily make Smackdown a better show. Feuds with JBL would actually be great considering that JBL is such a hated heel as of right now. And as for a feud with Taker, I also stand by my opinion in that it would do well. Taker has fought technical wrestlers in the past and actually did fairly well against them. I think that possibly Benoit could be heel in this matchup since Taker no matter what is always going to be a face. People just love him. And politics is everywhere, a true statement by you dj, however, it does not need to be in the wwe in that manner. Having Muhammed come out and bash Americans for 911 was I feel could have been treading on thin ice. To me it was just distasteful, I was not into the segment at all and it sounded like a lot of the fans were not interested as well either. Yes, the wwe has had similar feuds like that in the past (slaughter and hogan) and yes it was during a time as well when America was goin through some struggles (Gulf war) however, I just think that the wwe needs to get past that.
Now as for Lesnar going to Raw, I truly feel would be a great asset to that show. Course they would have to start him off small and even lose a couple matches to start off, but he could really have some good feuds with big guys like Batista and HHH. Course, I do not think that these feuds would necessarily start right away they would be far into the future after many different feuds would occur. Of course these are just my opinions and I stand firm on them...just be a little more tentative to others. And this response is really not aimed towards you, it is just a response of how I have felt about situations...We respect you, now give others the same respect that we give you
FS04

[carnage4u]

I really dont like the new angle with Raws newest member... I dont think the Arab amaerican angle is very amusing, and i know we have passed the time, where its ok, for every tv show to mention 9/11, but i really dont think its very amusing.

in fact i sort of hate it.

but thats just me.

[ChaCho]

Its all about what you want to see.
You want to see politics great, but you know many people dont want to talk about 9/11. And WWE is entertainment, people will be thinking, "Oh Hey! is monday night i'll go and watch RAW, i'll have a nice relaxing night". And the first thing they see is an Arab/American saying "I have been neglected for the last couple of years because of 9/11" You know it's not our fault or the guy trying to have a nice night. WWE should be WWE nothing more. Politics leave that to our President. Have a nice day!~! LOL

[IamMrDJ]

just be a little more tentative to others. And this response is really not aimed towards you, it is just a response of how I have felt about situations...We respect you, now give others the same respect that we give you
FS04

Wel sorry to let you know but I do not talk down to everyone around here. I show respect to quite a few members. The reason you are not one of those members is that you have yet to show me that you know what your talking about. Guess what I tell the same thing to people I work with. If you want my respect you gotta earn it. And you know what they are fine wth that because they are the same way, and now I respect them adn they respect me.


The comments I meant about politics in the WWE were geared towards Mick Foley's comments before the Arab-American segment. The Arab-American Gimmick will fail just as fast as the last one did. Anyone remember Tiger Ali Singh.

[filmstudent04]

Wel sorry to let you know but I do not talk down to everyone around here. I show respect to quite a few members. The reason you are not one of those members is that you have yet to show me that you know what your talking about. Guess what I tell the same thing to people I work with. If you want my respect you gotta earn it. And you know what they are fine wth that because they are the same way, and now I respect them adn they respect me.


The comments I meant about politics in the WWE were geared towards Mick Foley's comments before the Arab-American segment. The Arab-American Gimmick will fail just as fast as the last one did. Anyone remember Tiger Ali Singh.

All comments that I respect, but in reality, I feel that you should give respect to just about anyone on this forum about this subject. No one has to earn your respect by proving their knowledge of the wwe. And I almost feel that anyone's opinion is worth listening to whether you agree with it or not. It is not like you are the editor in chief of this forum and we are all little staff writers for you. We are all equal in this forum. I dont think anyone needs to ramble off facts that they know about wrestling in order to gain your respect. Now that being said, I am certainly not standing up for my opinions or anyone elses to gain your respect, I respect you just as I would anyone else who has a comment to make...and I am not going to dwell on this topic either, so moving on...
Tonight's Raw? It's the best of 04...seems like a lot of those shows are airing lately (vh1, mtv, comedy central and now raw) what are peoples predictions of what will be shown?

[ilovecandace]

ummmmmmm i think the iron man match......and......the draft night where benoit and ryhno fought......is that all it's going ot be are just old matchs?

[Se7en the movie]

Speaking of Rhyno, what an underrated wrestler. I mean he may not be a great techniqual wrestler but he has the look and the skill as a brawler (See the Raven vs. Rhyno match at backlash a few years ago) that he should be making it big! I've always liked this guy, ever since ECW and he has always played his character to perfection. Also the man can use the mic like a crazyman!

[glsspder]

Hate recap shows .

[ChaCho]

I loved the Best of 2004.
They showed The Rock doing it's great apperances. Wrestlemania XX Main Event - Even though i had already seen it i felt the same excitement.
Survivor Series. It was good. I LOVE THE WWE! HAHAHA

[jbailey84]

hey does anyone know what PPV it was where HHH & Jericho fought in a Hell In A Cell?

[IamMrDJ]

Jbailey it was Judgement Day in May of 2002.

[Inval1d]

More On ECW PPV, Location Revealed, More


Written by Dougie Nunny on 12/21/2004



Kylie's Tight Ass, Carmen Electra Wet Top & lots more babes!

Many backstage are reporting that there are plans for WWE to present a live ECW brand PPV on Sunday, June 5 from the Hammerstein Ballroom at the Manhattan Center in New York City, which was the site of ECW's final two PPVs in December 2000 and January 2001.

However, many questions remain as to who will be the creative leader of the PPV. Specifically, many wonder if Paul Heyman and Tommy Dreamer will have any creative input for the show or if it will be done by WWE writers.

Many are also wondering if talent not under WWE contract will be at the event. One of the big criticisms for the WWE/WCW/ECW Angle in 2001 was that they never signed the big, recognizable names, even if temporarily. If people like Sandman, Raven, and Shane Douglas don't appear on the PPV, many expect it will be a flop with only sub-par ECW wrestlers.

Many say that this could either be the greatest PPV of the decade, or the next XFL.

~ Wrestling-Edge


if this is done right, it will be the greatest. i will definetely be ordering this if they do come through.

[jbailey84]

Jbailey it was Judgement Day in May of 2002. sweet! thanks DJ

[jbailey84]

dont know if this is true, from ewrestlingnews.com

Playboy is going through another round of talks with WWE for a future Women of WWE magazine and has gotten some to agree while others are holding out.

Confirmed: Torrie Wilson, Dawn Marie, Miss Jackie, Victoria, Chirsty Hemme, Joy Giovanni, Amy Weber, Michelle McCool, and Lilian Garcia

Still Negotiating: Lita, Molly Holly, Ivory, and Maria.

Definitely out: Trish stratus, Stacey Keibler, Stephanie McMahon.

Look for a pictorial around SummerSlam.

[IamMrDJ]

dont know if this is true, from ewrestlingnews.com

DO not count on Ivory appearing in it. It was a stretch to get her to do the Diva Shoots. She is not very happy with women using thier looks and posing nude. Molly Holly is along the same line as her. The others still negotiatiing, I am not sure about.

[jbailey84]

who would want to see Ivory and Molly anyways? no, but i respect them for that.

[IamMrDJ]

who would want to see Molly anyways?

Don't let Snik hear you say that. :D

[glsspder]

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/15752.gif

[carnage4u]

i just realized i was staring at forum for about 30 minutes :0

[ZombieMan]

who would want to see Ivory and Molly anyways?

OHHH MEEE MEEEE! Not Ivory, but I would give anything to see Molly in there, she is extra hot with longer hair. I haven't watched it for awhile, did she grow her hair back out yet? Anyhow, the only two that I would really want to see the most is Molly Holly and Lita.

[ZombieMan]

The Arab-American Gimmick will fail just as fast as the last one did. Anyone remember Tiger Ali Singh.

God, I hope so. This is one reason that I quit watching WWE, I'm just sticking with the local indy shows that I am not able to work lately. I've been ill so I haven't gotten to wrestle for quite sometime or referee. But yeah, the Arab gimmick is pretty weak right now and is not a good idea at all. Everyone in the NWA-Missouri agrees with that because I've been talking to all of my wrestling friends about that actually and they hate it as much as the next person.

[Inval1d]

i'd like to see ivory but not molly.

but most definetly Lita! :D :D :D

[chewie]

Even though most of the matches weren't long, at least there were plenty of them.

[Se7en the movie]

A few long good matches is far better then loads of short average matches.

What are you talking about anyway?

[da_Nutz1]

i dont mind WWF..

But people who are too into it are a little silly..

[Se7en the movie]

But people who are too into it are a little silly..

Define TOO into it.

[ZombieMan]

Yeah, I'd like to hear the definition of "too" into it.

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah, I'd like to hear the definition of "too" into it.

Well I have a feeling no matter his definition I am definetly "too" into it in his opinion. Oh Well I don't mind.

[ZombieMan]

Here is an update for those interested in the WWE Divas/Playboy rumors. Apperently, the source is a photographer with connections with Playboy that has posted on the www.cndb.com message board, which is a celebrity nudity database/reference site. By the looks of his postings, the guy seems to have some valid information, particularly when looking at the other information that he has posted regarding this rumored Playboy spread. Here are the relevant posts the source has made in regards to his story.

On Dec. 20, "Photographer" posted:

They are negotiating right now with the WWE to do a Women of the WWE issue, so far the only Divas that have agreed is Torrie Wilson, Dawn Marie, Miss Jackie, Victoria, Christy Hemme, Joy, Amy Weber, Michelle McCool, and Lilian Garcia, they are still trying to get Lita, Molly Holly, Stephanie McMahon, Ivory, and one other. Trish Stratus, Stacy Keibler and someone else said no.

On Dec. 26, "Photographer" posted a follow up to this rumor with a lot of details.

I found out this week that Stacy Keibler and Molly Holly have both agreed. But both have stipulations. Molly will only appear topless and nothing else will be shown, however, her hands will be covering her breasts in the photo. Kind of like the old Janet Jackson Rolling Stone Issue. Stacy Keibler will show her legs and butt in the pictorial but nothing else. So most likely it will be shot from behind with her turning towards the camera wearing a shirt. With Playboy okay with these stipulations it is now possible that both Trish Stratus and Stephanie McMahon will appear but with provisions like Stacy and Molly. Stephanie wants to appear but has only agreed to be wearing something sexy or see-through, and Trish said she would agree along the same lines. No word on Ivory, as of this point it looks like she will not pose at all. The pictorial is said to be over at least 10 pages, and will hit newsstands around July, not August like originally planned.

Another post....

Sorry I forgot about Lita. Lita is confirmed and will appear all-nude in the pictorial.

And in one last post to recap....


OK here is the info I gathered about the WWE Women:

Victoria -Topless & Full Frontal
Dawn Marie - Topless & Full Frontal
Miss Jackie - Topless Only/Lingerie
Stacy Keibler - Ass and Back only
Stephanie McMahon - See-through Nightie/Lingerie
Michelle McCool - Topless & Full Frontal
Amy Weber - Topless & Full Frontal
Maria - Topless only
Lita - Still Negotiating Poses
Joy Giovanni - Topless & Full Frontal
Christy Hemme - Topless & Ass only
Candace - Topless & Full Frontal
Torrie Wilson - Topless Only/Lingerie
Lilian Garcia - See-Through Nightie/Lingerie
Molly Holly - Topless Only/Lingerie

Please Note, that the Spread is 10 pages, however some of the Divas will only appear once, while others may get one or two pages.

For the time being, we should take this as rumors until it is confirmed by WWE or Dave Meltzer or someone like that. You should decide for yourself if you believe these rumors are true, but I think there is a great possibility that these rumors are indeed true. This is directly from http://www.lordsofpain.net

[ZombieMan]

In more news, Harley Race's new book was just released last month. If you get a copy and get the address for his wrestling school, I know Harley would sign the book if you sent it to him requesting an autograph. He's a really nice guy and it was a great priviledge for me to get to train under his direction. The book should be very good, I'm sure of his stories that he told me personally will be in there. He has some VERY interesting situations that he has been in and you might be shocked by some of the stuff you learn of his life. Harley had a really rough life and some of his stories should be very tear jerking. You can get the book at Barnes and Noble, I know that for sure. I need to order myself a copy as well. I think its like 20 bucks, I'm gonna have to get it and go up and have Harley personalize it, lol, that would be cool. I'll have him put "To my favorite student". :)

[Colorado Cajun]

Here is an update for those interested in the WWE Divas/Playboy rumors. Apperently, the source is a photographer with connections with Playboy that has posted on the www.cndb.com message board, which is a celebrity nudity database/reference site. By the looks of his postings, the guy seems to have some valid information, particularly when looking at the other information that he has posted regarding this rumored Playboy spread. Here are the relevant posts the source has made in regards to his story.

On Dec. 20, "Photographer" posted:

They are negotiating right now with the WWE to do a Women of the WWE issue, so far the only Divas that have agreed is Torrie Wilson, Dawn Marie, Miss Jackie, Victoria, Christy Hemme, Joy, Amy Weber, Michelle McCool, and Lilian Garcia, they are still trying to get Lita, Molly Holly, Stephanie McMahon, Ivory, and one other. Trish Stratus, Stacy Keibler and someone else said no.

On Dec. 26, "Photographer" posted a follow up to this rumor with a lot of details.

I found out this week that Stacy Keibler and Molly Holly have both agreed. But both have stipulations. Molly will only appear topless and nothing else will be shown, however, her hands will be covering her breasts in the photo. Kind of like the old Janet Jackson Rolling Stone Issue. Stacy Keibler will show her legs and butt in the pictorial but nothing else. So most likely it will be shot from behind with her turning towards the camera wearing a shirt. With Playboy okay with these stipulations it is now possible that both Trish Stratus and Stephanie McMahon will appear but with provisions like Stacy and Molly. Stephanie wants to appear but has only agreed to be wearing something sexy or see-through, and Trish said she would agree along the same lines. No word on Ivory, as of this point it looks like she will not pose at all. The pictorial is said to be over at least 10 pages, and will hit newsstands around July, not August like originally planned.

Another post....

Sorry I forgot about Lita. Lita is confirmed and will appear all-nude in the pictorial.

And in one last post to recap....


OK here is the info I gathered about the WWE Women:

Victoria -Topless & Full Frontal
Dawn Marie - Topless & Full Frontal
Miss Jackie - Topless Only/Lingerie
Stacy Keibler - Ass and Back only
Stephanie McMahon - See-through Nightie/Lingerie
Michelle McCool - Topless & Full Frontal
Amy Weber - Topless & Full Frontal
Maria - Topless only
Lita - Still Negotiating Poses
Joy Giovanni - Topless & Full Frontal
Christy Hemme - Topless & Ass only
Candace - Topless & Full Frontal
Torrie Wilson - Topless Only/Lingerie
Lilian Garcia - See-Through Nightie/Lingerie
Molly Holly - Topless Only/Lingerie

Please Note, that the Spread is 10 pages, however some of the Divas will only appear once, while others may get one or two pages.

For the time being, we should take this as rumors until it is confirmed by WWE or Dave Meltzer or someone like that. You should decide for yourself if you believe these rumors are true, but I think there is a great possibility that these rumors are indeed true. This is directly from http://www.lordsofpain.net

damn if that is true it will be the greatest issue ever!

I'd be happy with just lita, Christy, Stacy, Maria, Lilian, and Trish

[Se7en the movie]

I just want Dawn Marie.

When is Royal Rumble? I havent seen RAW or Smackdown in a good while.

[ZombieMan]

I'm all for seeing Michelle McCool, Amy Weber, Maria, Lita, Joy Giovanni, Christy, Lillian Garcia, and Molly Holly. Too bad Molly is only doing topless but with her hands on her breasts at that, lol. I am a big Molly Holly fan! About Joy Giovanni, I wonder if she is related to the porn star Aria Giovanni? LMAO ;)

[jbailey84]

[QUOTE=Se7en the movie]When is Royal Rumble?QUOTE] Jan 30

[ilovecandace]

go batista

[chewie]

I wonder if Bischoff will put any pressure on the RAW guys like he did last year. I think a Smackdown guy has won it the last two years.

[ZombieMan]

go batista

Actually, I kind of like how Batista's attitude was on Monday night. I think that the WWE should continue to play his character like that and if they play their cards right then he could become one of the top stars. He's improved alot this year from what I can see with his in-ring abilities. :cool:

[filmstudent04]

It'll be cool if it does come down to like H and Batista, or Batista and Orton, and having the shocker be that Batista comes out on top. It's really tough to say though right now who is going to win it.

[Se7en the movie]

I'm gonna go with Batista and I'm gonna get even more radical and wild by saying that he will be left against HHH. HHH will probably expect batista to let him win but he won't. Batista seems to really getting over recently and seems like someone who could do well with the belt put on him.
Now bear in mind that I haven't seen RAW in a good while.

[chewie]

I would say that the Wrestlemania 21 match would be Orton vs HHH. I think HHH will win Sunday. I don't think that Batista will turn on HHH just yet. Maybe at Wrestlemania.

[jbailey84]

yeah i think HHH will win Sunday with a little help from his friend ;)......HBK.

i'll post more later!! gotta go to work! its 11:46am on my side of the world:D

[ZombieMan]

I would say that the Wrestlemania 21 match would be Orton vs HHH. I think HHH will win Sunday. I don't think that Batista will turn on HHH just yet. Maybe at Wrestlemania.

I think that your absolutely right chewie. He will probably wait to make a babyface turn at Wrestlemania.

[jbailey84]

well we start off the New Year with the Raw Brand's PPV, New Years Revolution. here are my picks. *means Winner

ELIMINATION CHAMBER
Triple H* vs. Batista vs. Edge vs. Randy orton vs. Chris jericho vs. Chris benoit

WOMEN's Championship
Lita* vs. Trish Stratus

Kane* vs. Gene Snitsky

INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Shelton Benjamin* VS. Maven

WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
Regal & Eugene VS. Christian & Tyson* NEW CHAMPS

Jerry "the king" Lawler VS. Muhammad Hassan*

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I agree with all of your picks jbailey except one. I think that they might give Maven the IC title and make that feud last quite sometime. I wouldn't mind seeing that personally, as I think it would make for some interesting outcomes. I think I might rent the PPV tonight actually. Looks like a pretty good lineup. But I would like to see someone other than Triple H win the elimination chamber match. I'd like to see Orton or Jericho win it.

[jbailey84]

yeah i have a feeling that they just might give the IC title to Maven. seeing Jericho win the title again would be great! but i have another feeling that HHH just might walk out with it....again. he's 2-1 for the EC match

[ZombieMan]

Well, Triple H won the damn world title again. I'm really getting sick of seeing this happen to be truthful. Orton didn't get to hold the title long enough, so I would give it back to him. I think that the officials backstage didn't feel as if he was a worthy enough champion, for one he didn't have the statistics that they usually like, and two he just wasn't getting enough love from the crowd. There were alot of ****ups tonight. Eugene hurt his knee really badly (dislocated the kneecap) and broke character, he wasn't being kayfabe at all. Then, Lita hurt her knee also in her match against Trish. In the elimination chamber match, Chris Jericho accidentally knocked a camera guy out, LMAO!

[sniktawt]

Some more **** ups were having the Borefest known as the Lawler /Hussien Match have no commentary to add to an already crappy match.
I do think this Hussien dude is fantastic on the mic though.

Another **** up was Maven breaking character for a "Brief second" and snapping at a fan with his outburst "I don't know what you're saying".
If you have access to this match , watch him , he blows his cool for about 3 seconds and catches himself.I may be wrong but it sure looked like he really was pissed for a few seconds.
I know the WWE wants heel heat on this guy but In all my 29 years watching wrestling i have never seen anyone get that many boos, any wonder he snapped.

[jbailey84]

didnt do too bad on my picks, 4-2.

[ZombieMan]

Another **** up was Maven breaking character for a "Brief second" and snapping at a fan with his outburst "I don't know what you're saying".
If you have access to this match , watch him , he blows his cool for about 3 seconds and catches himself.I may be wrong but it sure looked like he really was pissed for a few seconds.
I know the WWE wants heel heat on this guy but In all my 29 years watching wrestling i have never seen anyone get that many boos, any wonder he snapped.

I thought that Maven was still in character when he snapped at that fan. But the commentators play it off as if Maven was really angry with the fan. They were kind of like "ohhh, uhhh, wow". But I think it was part of the show as I don't see why he would mad at a fan for not being able to speak English, lol.

[spiderman_2k]

Pretty disappointed with this PPV, I knew that the WWE really only intended it to be a one match PPV with the rest of the card being pretty weak, but I was hoping for a bit more from the thing as a whole.

[carnage4u]

the maven match was so funny.Had a crowd over at our place,, and that was the 2nd most enjoyable part of night. sure it was short, but the first time ever i thought maven was doing a great job, and the reaction he was getting was priceless

it sucks two peoople got hurt.. that first match was going at a good speed till then and the 2nd never got to go anywhere.

yeah the lawler match was the low point to me as well. good final though.

kane match had the restult i wanted, but could have been a better match.

[carnage4u]

Pretty disappointed with this PPV, I knew that the WWE really only intended it to be a one match PPV with the rest of the card being pretty weak, but I was hoping for a bit more from the thing as a whole.


2 injuries in first two match didnt help at all either..

[DangerMouse]

Anyone wanna post a quick recap?

I can't access a lot of wrestling sites on my work computer. The WWE site is one of the many that is 100% blocked.

Believe it or not, I have to get the majority of my wrestling news from here. :omg:

[ZombieMan]

kane match had the restult i wanted, but could have been a better match.

Yeah thats what I kind of thought. I think that the two could have put on a much, much better match than they did. I was looking forward to it, but was dissapointed when I actually watched it.

[Se7en the movie]

Who was Kane against?

[spiderman_2k]

Snitsky

[ZombieMan]

Alot of wrestling sites are reporting that both Eugene (Nick Dinsmore) and Lita (Amy Dumas) were both seen in the local airport early in the morning, both in wheelchairs. Apparently as it stands, Eugene did dislocate his kneecap and Lita just sprained her knee and most likely she won't need surgery. Wonder how long they will keep her out of action for. I thought that her injury looked worse, how she fell on the Lou Thesz Press. It looked mighty damn painful! But Eugene was clearly in the most pain, with breaking character and all. I can't blame him!

[Inval1d]

i was mad at NYR. i really thought Batista would take it.

[slinger]

NYR sounds like one of the crappiest PPVs in the last year.

What did Eguene do when he broke character?

[ZombieMan]

He was just not acting "retarded" anymore, he was just acting normal and kind of rolling around the ring holding his knee. I don't blame him for just going out of character, I know that he was in a great deal of pain with that kind of wrestling injury.

[sniktawt]

"breaking Character " During an injury is not uncommon , I mean he dislocated his knee cap , the furthest thing from his mind would be acting like an idiot.

I still say Maven snapped at that fan , and it had nothing to do with speaking Spanish , he gave Maven the Universal Language , Which was the finger.;)

[jbailey84]

Anyone wanna post a quick recap?

I can't access a lot of wrestling sites on my work computer. The WWE site is one of the many that is 100% blocked.

Believe it or not, I have to get the majority of my wrestling news from here. :omg:

HHH regained the vacant World Title
Shelton Benjamin beat Maven TWICE to retain his Intercontinental Title
Kane beat Snitsky
Trish regained the Women's Title from Lita
Eugene & Regal retained the Tag Titles beating Christian and Tyson
Hassan defeated Jerry Lawler

[ZombieMan]

"breaking Character " During an injury is not uncommon , I mean he dislocated his knee cap , the furthest thing from his mind would be acting like an idiot.

LOL, well that actually shocked me that he went so much out of character still. I've been in the business for 3 years and saw my good friend Warren Polo break his leg and the bone was hanging out of the skin, and he finished the match in character. In this business, you get hurt and the show must continue, which really sucks ass sometimes but thats the way it is. I've never broke character yet and been hurt very badly. Its all because I would risk getting fired. I've yet to see a man break character during the show in any promotion that I've ever worked for. :D

[onelegasy]

And you are ____?

[carnage4u]

I honestly never thought Batista would amuse me as much as he has last few weeks..


i just hate how slow some of these angles build sometimes though

[ZombieMan]

And you are ____?

An independent wrestler and referee that most likely you have never heard of before. I've wrestled and referee'd in the following states. Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Florida. My ring name is Big Ben. I have worked for NWA Missouri, WLW, KYDA, RHW, ASWF, NWA-TNA, Bad Boys of Wrestling. Here is a picture of me below at an NWA Missouri show threatening to whip Billy Ray Henderson's ass while refereeing the match, he upset me. ;) I have been refereeing more lately do to the injuries that I have.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/ZombieMan/SalemShow7.jpg

[ZombieMan]

I'm quite impressed with the match that they have signed for Raw this coming Monday between Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho. I'm really looking forward to it, and I personally would like to see Benoit make a heel turn and feud with Jericho in the near future. That would make one hell of a Wrestlemania matchup for this year! The WWE should really take that into consideration.

[Se7en the movie]

Cool match, too bad RAW has been moved to Sky Sports and no Heat on Sky One anymore so I won't see it. Just bought the Rise and Fall of ECW DVD yesterday, only watched an hour but I am loving it. Paul Heyman is a GENIUS.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I have really been wanting to see that DVD. I think DirecTV is showing that on pay-per-view though, so I might just rent if off there.

[FVD]

Great news for NZ viewers. As of the end of January, SKY is gonna be screening the Raw and Smackdown coverage up to date with the US. And on a greater note we're finally gonna get the PPV's live starting with the Royal Rumble.

This is great. It's about time. We're currently 2 weeks behind the US. Over the next couple weeks Raw & Smackdown will be played back to back in order to meet the rest of the world. I can't wait.

FVD.

[FVD]

And another question/s.

Can anybody tell me what the names of Edge's and Christian's new theme tunes are called? The new Christian theme sounds like Pat Benatar is singing it. They both sound great.

FVD.

[ZombieMan]

FVD, I answered your question in the music forums. :)

[sniktawt]

An independent wrestler and referee that most likely you have never heard of before. I've wrestled and referee'd in the following states. Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Florida. My ring name is Big Ben. I have worked for NWA Missouri, WLW, KYDA, RHW, ASWF, NWA-TNA, Bad Boys of Wrestling.


Didn't you also do a "Sunday Night Heat TV taping ?"

[ZombieMan]

Yeah but lets not talk about that, lol, I did a really poor match and jobbed big time.

[sniktawt]

I have every Heat Taped up until 2004 , Do you know which year it was or when it Aired , who did you Job Too .
I'm sure no one cares if you did a poor match , it's awesome you got there.
Most of the guys here don't leave their basements let alone get a shot in The WWE.;)

[ZombieMan]

My bad, it wasn't Sunday Night Heat, it was Velocity or something like that. My wife just informed me that it wasn't showed on Heat but I thought it was. I never actually got to see the match, and didn't care to because I know it sucked, I executed a couple of bad moves because I was so damn nervous. I've been on Velocity twice then. Once I went up against Crash Holly (got my ass kicked bad, thats the one that I thought made Heat) and the other time I ran in on Funaki and took his flag, then beat him down alongside Nunzio.

[ZombieMan]

Who are your top 10 favorite stars as of now on both Raw and Smackdown? Here are mine...Also, 1 being your most favorite!

Raw
1. William Regal
2. Batista
3. The Hurricane
4. Shawn Michaels
5. Randy Orton
6. Kane
7. Chris Jericho
8. Chris Benoit
9. Eugene
10. Maven

Smackdown
1. John Cena
2. The Undertaker
3. Funaki
4. Rey Mysterio
5. Nunzio
6. Kurt Angle
7. Big Show
8. Hardcore Holly
9. Eddie Guerrero
10. Kenzo Suzuki

[sniktawt]

My bad, it wasn't Sunday Night Heat, it was Velocity or something like that. My wife just informed me that it wasn't showed on Heat but I thought it was. I never actually got to see the match, and didn't care to because I know it sucked, I executed a couple of bad moves because I was so damn nervous. I've been on Velocity twice then. Once I went up against Crash Holly (got my ass kicked bad, thats the one that I thought made Heat) and the other time I ran in on Funaki and took his flag, then beat him down alongside Nunzio.

Were you billed as "Big Ben" ?

[FVD]

FVD, I answered your question in the music forums. :)

Yeah I know. I posted here before I thought at the last minute about the Music Forums. So my bad :)

[FVD]

Anyway, when did Maven turn heel?

[FVD]

My Top 10 on either brand? Hmm here goes:

RAW:

Chris Benoit
Shelton Benjamin
Batista
Randy Orton
Chris Jericho
Eugene
William Regal
Edge
Rhyno
Tajiri

Favourite Diva: Stacy Kiebler (closely followed by Trish Stratus)
Most hated: Tyson Tomko (followed by Triple H)

SMACKDOWN:

Rob Van Dam
Kurt Angle
Booker T
John Cena
Rey Mysterio
Eddie Guerrero
Ultimo Dragon
Billy Kidman
Charlie Haas
JBL

Favourite Diva: Definitely Torrie Wilson
Most hated: Nobody really. I don't care too much about The Bashams though.

[chewie]

RAW In no order

Jericho, Orton, Batista, Christian, Edge, HBK, Regal,Maven, Hurricane, Shelton Benjamin

Smackdown In no order

Kidman, John Cena, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, The Undertaker

Divas: Stacy Keibler, Christy Hemme, Torrie Wilson, Trish Stratus, Miss Jackie, Maria, Candace.

[ZombieMan]

Were you billed as "Big Ben" ?

Actually I'm not quite sure. But they had a list that we could pick from using names and I picked Steve Fender and don't know if they used it for me or not.

[ZombieMan]

By the way, my favorite diva from Raw is Molly Holly, then and my favorite diva from Smackdown is Joy. My most hated wrestler on Raw is Triple H and most hated diva of there is Stacy Keibler. My most hated wrestler on Smackdown is Luther Reigns and my most hated diva on there is Amy Weber.

[HotBoy]

Anyway, when did Maven turn heel?Shortly after Survivor Series. It started with a battle royal, where he was eliminated by Eugene.

[HotBoy]

I don't know if this has been posted on any other board, but get a load of this:

Vince McMahon Lauches WWE Films
Source: World Wrestling Entertainment January 18, 2005


In keeping with its expansion as a global entertainment company, Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Entertainment and Stone Cold Steve Austin have come to an agreement for a three-picture deal under the WWE Films banner. WWE Films will produce and fully finance the films under the supervision of Joel Simon, President of WWE Films. Most recently, Steve wrapped a supporting role in The Longest Yard, starring Adam Sandler and directed by Peter Segal, scheduled for release by Paramount later this year.

Vince McMahon, Chairman, World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. states, "Having successfully submerged itself in the world of television and generated a host of superstar talent, WWE is ideally positioned to bring its unique and powerful cultural sensibility to the motion picture industry. I am extremely excited about showcasing the talents of Stone Cold Steve Austin, John Cena and Kane; as well I truly believe these and other WWE Superstars will achieve new artistic and commercial successes on the big screen."

Stone Cold Steve Austin's first project for WWE Films will be The Condemned, written by Rob and Andrew Hedden. The film will be executive produced by Vince McMahon and George Vrabeck. The film will be produced by Joel Simon in association with Sidestreet/New Wave Entertainment. The story deals with a cop on death-row who is given a second chance when chosen to compete on a deadly reality show. Pursued by ruthless killers, his survival and the key to his freedom depend on him surviving long enough to take down the one person responsible for putting him behind bars.

Aside from the Stone Cold Steve Austin deal, WWE Films, will produce and fully finance another two to four films a year. The first film out of the gate is The Marine, currently in post-production in Los Angeles after wrapping production on location Queensland, Australia. The film stars and marks the motion picture debut of WWE SmackDown! Superstar John Cena (currently seen every Thursday night on WWE's Smackdown! on UPN from 8:00pm-10:00pm EST.), and co-stars with Robert Patrick (Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Ladder 49) and Kelly Carlson (Nip/Tuck). The Marine is directed by commercial helmer John Bonito (represented by ICM), based on an original spec script by Michell Gallagher that was subsequently rewritten by Alan McElroy (represented by Hohman Maybank Lieb). The film is executive produced by Vince McMahon and produced by Joel Simon, Kathryn Sommer, and Jonathan Winfrey. WWE has completed a deal with 20th Century Fox to distribute The Marine theatrically.

WWE Films is also in post-production on the tentatively titled Goodnight, starring WWE RAW Superstar Kane, also making his motion picture debut. The film is described as an intense horror movie with a unique and unusual setting. "We've created the classic bad guy, the classic monster," Simon states. "We're trying to create a villain franchise in the vein of Jason, Freddie and Pinhead." The film is written by Dan Madigan (repped by ICM) and Harris Levine Wilkinson (repped by Justin Silvera) and directed by Gregory Dark (repped by ICM). The film is executive produced by Vince McMahon and produced by Joel Simon. WWE has completed a deal with Lions Gate to distribute Goodnight theatrically. WWE RAW Superstar Kane can currently be seen every Monday night on WWE Monday Night RAW live on Spike from 9:00pm-11:00pm EST.

The Marine and Goodnight were produced with the assistance of Queensland's Pacific Film & Television Commission. Village Roadshow Production Management handled production services on both films.

How much you want to bet that's part of the reason why Austin is going to be holding a press conference?

[spiderman_2k]

His first film sounds alot like Manhunt.

[ZombieMan]

I have to admit that I'm really looking forward to The Longest Yard. I think that it could be pretty successful!

[HotBoy]

His first film sounds alot like Manhunt.To me, it sounds a lot like The Running Man(just not set in the future).

[DangerMouse]

I'm willing to bet Austin plays the "Maximum Security" prisoner who's into Martial Arts and is pretty much a head case.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Thats a pretty good assumption DangerMouse. ;)

[HotBoy]

I'm willing to bet Austin plays the "Maximum Security" prisoner who's into Martial Arts and is pretty much a head case.You might get 1 out of 2. Somehow, or another, I don't see Austin doing martial arts!!!

[carnage4u]

but then he could get an action figure with kun fu grip

[stonefaced_1]

This sounds like a trainwreck in the making.

[carnage4u]

It will be as good as the XFL

[sniktawt]

Vince McMahon "Executive Producer" this can be summed up in...6 words ..."NO HOLDS BARRED" starring Hulk Hogan.;)

[DangerMouse]

You might get 1 out of 2. Somehow, or another, I don't see Austin doing martial arts!!!

You've obviously never seen the original "Longest Yard". Austin's made for the part.

[DangerMouse]

Hey ZombieMan, maybe you've done this in the past and maybe not.

I'd actually like to hear from an "insider" exactly what each belt "means" inside the industry.

And I don't mean give a definition of the title. What I mean is, you find out you will be pushed for a certain title belt and are scheduled to win it at the next pay-per-view.

What does that mean as far as your career goes and your perception in the lockeroom?

[sniktawt]

Goldberg's in the Longest Yard too , isn't he ?

[onelegasy]

Austin is a much better actor than Hulk Hogan so it should be not bad at all seeing him on the screen.

I pray we dont see HHH in any more movies.

[ZombieMan]

Hey ZombieMan, maybe you've done this in the past and maybe not.

I'd actually like to hear from an "insider" exactly what each belt "means" inside the industry.

And I don't mean give a definition of the title. What I mean is, you find out you will be pushed for a certain title belt and are scheduled to win it at the next pay-per-view.

What does that mean as far as your career goes and your perception in the lockeroom?

I haven't won but just 1 title so far and it was the cruiserweight title. In the independent wrestling scene, if you win certain titles then you gain alot more respect from other promotions of course and are asked to come and work for them. As far as being in the locker room after winning a title belt, its really nothing. The other guys know that you are going to win it and just kind of keep to themselves usually after you win a title. There is a sort of jealousy that does lurk around in the locker rooms from time to time though after one guy wins a title, then the other guy that thought that he was more fit for it gets pissed off and talks **** behind your back and then will work you stiff in the ring the next match that you have with him. That has happend to me twice with this other cruiserweight who thinks that he deserved the title more than me. But in this business, you just have to shrug that **** off and go on because it doesn't do much to ***** about it. Usually the promoters don't really give a rip and nobody else does either. You just have to kind of fend for yourself and watch your back, because its a backstabbing business. Most promoters around here won't really jip you out of your title, so thats pretty good.

[Tony Montana]

Is it like, they call you and tell you that you are going to be the new champ? Then you get with the other guy and you scheme the fight and you win after some spectacular actions and then you wait somebody else gets the call?

[ZombieMan]

Well, actually it can happen alot of different ways. The way that I found out that I was winning the title was my boss Chuck came up to me as soon as I got to the armory and told me "Your winning the cruiserweight title tonight, the fans are tired of the other guy and they seem to like you." So I was shocked because I was a new wrestler at the time, lol, but I was pretty happy. Sometimes the promoter will call you up and discuss whether you want to be a champion or not, but usually thats only for the heavyweight title or the main promotion title. Yeah, we always get with the other guy and talk about how the match will go down and when to "go home" which means, how you will end it and how far into the match. Like that day, I grabbed my opponent and was like "Lets get in the ring and plan this **** out and make it good so I don't **** it up." LOL... I have seen matches though where one guy was suppose to win the title away from the other one, and then they get hurt in the middle of the match and let the champ keep his title because the other guy will be out of action for awhile. No need to continue the feud with an injured man, HAHA!

[DangerMouse]

Actually I was wondering why certain guys are pushed for Intercontinential Champion, but not pushed for Heavy Weight. Or why some teams win the Tab Team belt, while some don't.

It just seems like some titles are used to see how well a "face" or a "heel" can get over before they decide if they're ready to be prime time.

[Tony Montana]

Thanx Zombie, I always wanted to know that...

Its obvious that you have to be popular to be a champ and that "bad" guys win matches only by cheating ;)

Not to think of all that "good turns bad/bad turns good" so noone gets bored by it. Think Shawn Micheals or Hitman...

[ZombieMan]

Actually I was wondering why certain guys are pushed for Intercontinential Champion, but not pushed for Heavy Weight. Or why some teams win the Tab Team belt, while some don't.

It just seems like some titles are used to see how well a "face" or a "heel" can get over before they decide if they're ready to be prime time.

Well thats the case sometimes. Where they want to see how a wrestler will get over with the crowd as an Intercontinental champion or US champion, so they can see if they need to push them to higher standards. As for the tag team titles, its usually who can work the crowd better. There are certain situations that a good tag team of wrestlers can do better than other teams to make things look better. Such as interference and getting the referee to look the other way while their teammate will be kicking, choking, or applying a submission to the other legal guy involved from the other team. Some wrestlers just don't think of that while they are in a match, but all of them should be trained highly professionally to learn these things. The academy's that I attended was tight on showing you how to work a tag match the right way so you will get pushed better, etc. Also about the guys who only ever get the Intercontinental belt, its not because they aren't a good wrestler, but sometimes they just lack the charisma that a heavyweight champ might have.

[ZombieMan]

Thanx Zombie, I always wanted to know that...

Its obvious that you have to be popular to be a champ and that "bad" guys win matches only by cheating ;)

Not to think of all that "good turns bad/bad turns good" so noone gets bored by it. Think Shawn Micheals or Hitman...

No problem man. If anyone or you have any other wrestling questions, about the behind-the-scenes or whatever, then I'd be more than happy to answer. Wrestling isn't as secretive as it use to be, as alot of the secrets were already released to the public in the last 6 years or so through specialized television shows about professional wrestling. I'm always up for telling people what its about, its really interesting to learn what really goes on behind-the-scenes. Though you may not want to know. ;)

[Se7en the movie]

Ever see that "Secrets of Pro-Wrestling Revealed", it shows stuff like the old trick of pushing down and old ladies in the crowd, who in case you didn't know was a plant and gives a reassuring wink to the wrestler to let them know she's ok.

[ilovecandace]

is it just me or is Batista become a fan favorite even thouh he is a bad guy........im starting too reall y like him

[DangerMouse]

I've got one last question for ya.

How in THE H*LL can a guy as old as Rick Flair still be able to wrestle and actually "sell" things convincingly.

That guy has to be single handedly keeping his chiropractor in business.

On a serous note, what moves actually hurt and what moves that don't "look" like they hurt, hurt like a b*tch?

[onelegasy]

Lots of wrestling moves can hurt like a ***** when done wrong or stiff.

The worst pain I have ever been in was when I let an idiot put a full nelson on me, and he used his full strength.

I wanted to puke all week and my neck was really messed up.

The Ric Flair knife edge chop on a sweaty body stings like a b*itch.

Moves that involve stretching of the back, and joint manipulations (arm bars, leg locks, wrist locks) can hurt if your opponent/trainer applies more pressure than is necessary for the move to look convincing.

I remember at camp we joked about the figure four leg lock, but I made my friend (who potatoed me earlier) actually cry in session when I clamped it on.

I took Judo then migrated to Wrestling and now Brazilian JJ.

Like sparring or wrestling, if you are not looking out for your opponent/partners interest, you can serious hurt them with anything.

[DangerMouse]

Wow. Just looking at the "figure 4" it really doesn't look like it would hurt at all.

[chewie]

The Ric Flair knife edge chop on a sweaty body stings like a b*itch.


I remember watching some of the old Flair/Sting matches and Sting's chest would be bleeding by the end of the match.

So who does everybody pick to win the rumble. I'll pick a Smackdown guy in John Cena. I think Flair will somehow cost Batista.

[onelegasy]

Wow. Just looking at the "figure 4" it really doesn't look like it would hurt at all.


Sit in a chair, cross your legs so that one is pressing underneath the right side calf muscle, keep your toes on the ground so they don't move and now apply pressure. Try the maximum amount of pressure you can take to the second leg and imagine someone else's leg trapping yours and doubling that pressure.

When done for show, no, it doesn't hurt, but if you did want someone to hurt...believe me, it's real easy.

Kinda hard to pull off during a street fight though.

:D

[ZombieMan]

Lots of wrestling moves can hurt like a ***** when done wrong or stiff.

The worst pain I have ever been in was when I let an idiot put a full nelson on me, and he used his full strength.

I wanted to puke all week and my neck was really messed up.

The Ric Flair knife edge chop on a sweaty body stings like a b*itch.

Moves that involve stretching of the back, and joint manipulations (arm bars, leg locks, wrist locks) can hurt if your opponent/trainer applies more pressure than is necessary for the move to look convincing.


Yeah, your pretty much right on all of those things. I would say that the moves that have hurt me the worst are the knife edge chops, figure four leglock, superplex from the top rope, sharpshooter, and a chokeslam from a wrestler who stood at 7'1", that was a long fall and it knocked the breath out of me pretty bad. Some wrestlers will apply more pressure to their submissions holds if you are a rookie, or if they don't like you period. Thats when it becomes a "shoot" fight match, because then the moves get very real and sometimes the ref has to call it early when you have two wrestlers really mad at each other. I've only had 1 shoot match but it didn't get too brutal, we finished things in the locker room, lol.

[DangerMouse]

Got any examples of any well known "shoot" matches from WWE or WCW that you know of?

I know when wCw was still in business, it was rumored that a Goldberg/Kevin Nash match was a shoot because the two of them couldn't stand each other.

[ZombieMan]

Yeah I know of a few shoot matches from WWE. Alot of Hardcore Holly's matches are shoots I've noticed, especially with rookies. I see shooting happen all the time on Raw or PPV's, the other night I saw Benoit shoot on Christian. Goldberg vs. Lesnar at last year's Wrestlemania had some shooting going on, but it wasn't hardly ****.

[DangerMouse]

Are shoot's pretty easy to spot?

I've seen some wrestlers mess up a move where you can tell the opponet landed wrong or didn't hit where they were supposed to. Then the wrestler on the "receiveing" end gets up and he's no longer "scripted" mad, you can tell he's PO'd. Normally the move after that is a real one meant to maybe send a message.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Yeah I've seen that happen many of times. Its easy for me to spot a shoot because I've been in the same situations before in the ring.

[DangerMouse]

Thanks for the info. I've been watching Pro-Wrestling since clear back in the regional TV days (Pre-WWF/E) and I'm glad the people in the profession are more open to exlaining a lot of how the industry works on the "inside".

One last question. Blading. Do you guys ditch the razorblades "around the ring someplace" or have you guys prefected a way to cut your foreheads open without the use of razor blades?

[ZombieMan]

The only term I've ever heard for it was "blade-job". Usually the referee will have it on him somewhere. I referee also and I usually will take a small plastic bag and put it in there and then slip it out and to a wrestler when I'm "checking" them after a big bump. Some wrestlers would prefer to keep the blade hidden in the tape on their wrists or in their elbow or knee pads. I saw one wrestler at a show in Illinois that put it in his boot, lost it in the ring and the other wrestler landed on it and cut his back open pretty bad. It was kind of funny, there were no hard feelings over it and the wrestler who got hurt (Tray Young) had a good laugh over it even though he had to get stiches. LOL

[onelegasy]

Don't forget the "Brock Lesner Special" Shooting star press for moves that hurt.

I thought he broke his neck. A smaller man likely would have.

Shoots? Razor Ramon kicked one of the Nasty Boys in the face and broke his teeth.
I was watching that PPV thinking that they looked a little stiff in there then WHAM
I think it was Brian Knobs.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ LMAO, I didn't see that one I guess! DARN! Anyhow, speaking of shoots, this past month the promotion that I started with (WLW) had my good friend Trevor Rhodes vs. Billy Gunn and Gunn kicked Rhodes in the eye really hard and the fans that were there are saying on the internet that his eye looked pretty nasty afterwards, lol. I bet it was a shoot because Trevor was always pretty rough (worked stiff) in the ring and didn't realize it. He probably hit Billy and Mr. Ass probably got pissed and nailed him back for it.