The Avengers - Review Thread

[sshuttari]

The Avengers - Review Thread

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I have been waiting to see this movie for 4 years, ever since Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury turned up at the end of Iron Man in 2008 and uttered those words that made fan-boys around the world wet their pants: "I'm here to talk about the Avengers initiative". And after 5 films I can honestly say that my incredibly high expectations were not let down, they were exceeded.

The Avengers is an incredible movie, not just a great superhero movie but a really good film. Marvel has made a big gamble with this picture and it has paid off. The movie starts off with an introduction to each of our heroes and their antagonist: Loki. It's all pretty usual stuff from here. But once the heroes come together, the movie becomes something more. There are a lot of big egos flying around and each one is more used to being the center of attention, especially Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. It's in these heated rows and witty banter that The Avengers becomes something that I really wasn't expecting: it's really funny. All these characters are so different and come from such different backgrounds that there is a lot of fun to be had by bouncing them off each other. The fish out of water gags at Captain America's and Thor's expense are great ("Easy there Point Break") with Tony getting to roll off line after line of witty insults. And in the film's climax, Hulk gets most of the laughs as he smashes everything around him. The Hulk could easily have been the film's main weakness, Marvel had already tried bringing him to the screen twice with little success (Ang Lee's 2003 version being one of the worst superhero movies ever) but he ends up being one of the film's biggest strengths. Mark Ruffalo makes a great Bruce Banner but he actually gets to play both Banner and the Hulk through motion capture (the first time ever that an actor has played both Banner and his massive alter-ego) and it works great. There was a huge cheer and applause when Cap' got to tell him: "Hulk, SMASH!" and he proceeded to do so.

A few of the new characters and ones that were limited to cameos in previous films get their chance to shine here. Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow gets to do more kicking and is given a love interest in Jeremy Renner's unbelievably bad-ass Hawkeye. Samuel L Jackson finally gets to spend more than 5 minutes on screen after showing up in 4 Marvel movies prior to this one in part of his massive 9 picture deal with Marvel. Cobie Smulder's of How I Met Your Mother fame gets to show off her action chops as Maria Hill and the Stan Lee cameo is present of course.

Which brings us to the film's action sequences. They are astounding. Each one better than the last. An early 3 player bout where Iron Man and Captain America try to take down Thor is great, but an aerial fight between Thor and the Hulk is better. But then there's the climactic "glorious war!" which really shows the potential of bringing this group together as they get to fight as a team. The problem with them on their own as demonstrated in previous movies, is that your limited to the adversaries to give your hero. Iron Man has just been fighting other men in suits, Thor monsters, etc. But now you can throw any enemies you want at The Avengers and the action will be incredible.

The only grievance some people will have is with the villains and the Macguffin. At the beginning I thought the whole aliens and gods thing was a bit fantastical for an Iron Man, Hulk or Captain America movie, but in the end it suits the movie perfectly as the Avengers are given a main villain the can all fight with and a whole army to battle against.

The plot is tight and clever and the screenplay brilliantly written with some cracking dialogue. Joss Whedon's directorial style translates perfectly into the blockbuster mold. The perfectly cast actors are all 100% comfortable in their roles and have great fun both bouncing off each other and uniting to fight as a team. The action sequences are breathtaking and the whole movie is terrific fun without being dumb. In terms of where it stands in the pantheon of great comic book movies is strictly down to personal preference. But in my opinion this is the second best comic book movie ever (The Dark Knight wins out due to it's better story and villain) and one of the best action movies ever made.

The Avengers is a truly magnificent film and it will be interesting to see where the Marvel movies go next as they have all been leading up to this film. hopefully will get a few more surprises but I don't see the studio topping this movie.

*****/*****

[DarthVader 2004]

I heard that Robert Downey Jr was better in this then in the two Iron Mans. The Reviewers i heard said that Iron Man and The Hulk really take it to the armies of Loki.

[Neverending]

Awesome!

[morpheus1987]

I am really glad to hear this. How are the more minor Avengers handled (Hawkeye, Black Widow)?

[Tornado]

I am very jealous right now.

[DarthVader 2004]

I have seen allot more here lately of Agent Hill and Black Widow and Whedon likes to use female heroes so i am sure they will do fine. I think Hawkeye will be the biggest question mark because we only saw him briefly in Thor.

[sshuttari]

I am really glad to hear this. How are the more minor Avengers handled (Hawkeye, Black Widow)?

Great! They all get too shine even Nick Fury!

[DarthVader 2004]

Well Sam has always been able to steal a scene and have limited air time in a movie and still is able to make an impact in the movie.

[MasterChief117]

The Avengers - Review Thread

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But in my opinion this is the second best comic book movie ever (The Dark Knight wins out due to it's better story and villain) and one of the best action movies ever made.


*****/*****



Because of you, I can now sleep easy.

[DarthVader 2004]

I am sure others will poke holes in this movie. I have not seen it and i don't like to assume my rating is going to be a high mark. I am hoping sure that it is great so Marvel can make up for messing up X-Men 3 and The Spider-Man fiasco. All am saying is that its early and i am sure we will get people to complain on the movie here.

[sshuttari]

Because of you, I can now sleep easy.

Haha, I specifically posted that just for you Masterchief ;)

[MasterChief117]

Haha, I specifically posted that just for you Masterchief ;)

I did a blow by blow retelling of your review to my Dad, and I had to specifically say that part. Your review got my father and I even more excited for this movie, which is pretty surprising, as well as made me comfortable knowing The Dark Knight might still retain it's top spot against this juggernaut.

[DarthVader 2004]

I Am Not So Sure Batman 3 will make much more then Batman Begins. I think TDK was allot more about Ledger then Batman. I am not sure they can redo Ledgers grand performance and any Villain they chose.

[PG Cooper]

Good review. Excited to hear it's good.

[Ramplate]

Can't wait for this

[saveus1011]

Probably the best third act of any Marvel film ever.

[Moviefan]

how did you get to see it early? lucky you. i can't wait. im more extied for ironman andthe hulk i hope they make another hulk movie soon.maybe after The Avengers.

[Nick1988]

Only question is are the Aliens any race from the comics or something new for the movies?

[PsYkOoOoO]

In Joss Whedon I trust.

[sshuttari]

Im not too familiar with the comics so I have no idea if the aliens are made specifically for the film

[Tornado]

The aliens are the Chitauri, a race from the comics. They are also known as the Skrulls.

[Neverending]

There's a 2006 animated Avengers movie that, more or less, uses the same plot as this movie. And I think it was the same alien race they had to defeat.

[saveus1011]

Everyone's going to want a Hulk sequel after this.

[Tornado]

I do already (and have for a while). It will be interesting to see what happens. I know some of the Marvel bigwigs have said no to that same question, but now that initial reactions are starting to come out with everyone saying the Hulk is a huge highlight (and the fact that the TV show isn't exactly getting off the ground) I have to wonder if they'll change their tune.

[DarthVader 2004]

I Think Ruffalo makes a great nerd if ask me. So maybe the better Hulk is the one Whedon created. Odd isn't it that 2 other attempts and it didn't look as good as the Hulk does in this trailer.

[DarthVader 2004]

I wonder if this will be the biggest comic book Opening Weekend or will Batman 3 make more again.

[saveus1011]

Just another note:

DO NOT go in 3D. Worst since CLASH OF THE TITANS.

[sshuttari]

I liked it fine In IMAX

[Tornado]

Just another note:

DO NOT go in 3D. Worst since CLASH OF THE TITANS.

Yeah I'll be seeing it in 2D. I think 3D is kind of silly and I generally avoid it whenever I can... but I also wear glasses that make it difficult to wear the goggles over the top.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Just checked with my local theaters. So far, I cannot find a cinema that shows IMAX in 2D. This SUCKS.

[Fanible]

The trailer looked awesome in IMAX 3D, so that's how I plan to see it.

[saveus1011]

Yeah I'll be seeing it in 2D. I think 3D is kind of silly and I generally avoid it whenever I can... but I also wear glasses that make it difficult to wear the goggles over the top.

It's a post-conversion job anyway. Those generally are terrible.

That's really the only fault I had with the movie.

[sshuttari]

Saveus post a Review!

[bbf2]

Went to the screening of this, it had its fun moments but they certainly made some really bizarre decisions. The biggest one being, I cannot believe that they killed off JK I haven't seen it yet.!

[MasterChief117]

I do NOT know why they keep doing movies in post conversion. Rumors are swirling around that they might push this on TDK and TDKR. How about NO!

[sshuttari]

Nolan won't let it be 3D. He has a lot of strings he can pull over at WB

[MasterChief117]

Nolan won't let it be 3D. He has a lot of strings he can pull over at WB

This is what I am hoping.

[Fanible]

What's there to hope for? Nolan doesn't like 3D. I would be surprised if Warner tried to do it without his consent, less they lose him as an option for future movies, or they got into some kind of feud and he no longer chose to make movies for them.

Regardless, it's not like a rerelease of those movies in 3D would somehow spoil the already available 2D versions. It would be one thing to be upset about a conversion and it being one of the only options to see the movie now, but a future rerelease? Meh. *shrugs*

[sshuttari]

Yeah what Fanible said. I don't see how they can keep promoting it Filmed in IMAX cameras and add 3D to it. Wouldn't make sense

Also lets keep this thread for Avengers...

[saveus1011]

Saveus post a Review!

I'm embargoed at the moment.

[Neverending]

Everyone's going to want a Hulk sequel after this.

The Hulk works best in small doses. That's probably why he's so cool here and not in his stand-alone films.

[Nick1988]

The aliens are the Chitauri, a race from the comics. They are also known as the Skrulls.

you know this for sure? or speculating....

[Tornado]

I know it for sure.

[saveus1011]

you know this for sure? or speculating....

It's for sure.

[sshuttari]

Joss Whedon!!! Bow Down fellow Nerds!!

Savus1011:it's the movie michael bay's been trying to make. This is what he's wanted to make, switch three transformer movies.

If you guys aren't pumped for this film... God Help you... There's No hope... I can't imagine anyone actually be dissapointed with this movie.

Joss Whedon has pulled off an action movie that Micheal Bay has been trying to do for years and years...

[saveus1011]

Meant to say "with three Transformer movies" there.

[sshuttari]

Yeah that makes more sense. lol

[bbf2]

I can't imagine anyone actually be dissapointed with this movie.

I'm much more likely to be disappointed with it if you guys keep making statements like that. ;)

[Neverending]

I'm much more likely to be disappointed with it if you guys keep making statements like that. ;)

Exactly. Plus, we don't want to get Doomsday all worked up. He's saving his energy for Dark Knight Rises.

[saveus1011]

I'm much more likely to be disappointed with it if you guys keep making statements like that. ;)

If it helps, it's not the best movie I've seen all year.

[sshuttari]

I haven't seen a lot of movies this year so It's definitely the best movie I have seen all year but that doesn't mean much...

[MasterChief117]

Exactly. Plus, we don't want to get Doomsday all worked up. He's saving his energy for Dark Knight Rises.

Mine is saved for Dark Shadows because I love everything Johnny Depp. :rolleyes:



















Not.

[DarthVader 2004]

I Am curious to know at this point what movie Saveus thinks is better then The Avengers. I have not seen it but being from all signs it appears to be better then what we have seen so far this year. I thought JC and Ghost Rider were good movies but they fizzled. Avengers, Batman 3 and MIB3 were my sure Hit summer movies.

[morpheus1987]

I Am curious to know at this point what movie Saveus thinks is better then The Avengers. I have not seen it but being from all signs it appears to be better then what we have seen so far this year. I thought JC and Ghost Rider were good movies but they fizzled. Avengers, Batman 3 and MIB3 were my sure Hit summer movies.

Have you seen Cabin in the Woods, or The Raid? Both of those films were pretty awesome. I can see how either of those would end up higher on someone's list.

[saveus1011]

I Am curious to know at this point what movie Saveus thinks is better then The Avengers. I have not seen it but being from all signs it appears to be better then what we have seen so far this year. I thought JC and Ghost Rider were good movies but they fizzled. Avengers, Batman 3 and MIB3 were my sure Hit summer movies.

There's actually four that I think are better.

[DarthVader 2004]

Care to list these marvels of Cinema.

[Tornado]

You could just go into the 2012 'post your list' thread and look at his list. He posted a recent one.

[MasterChief117]

Care to list these marvels of Cinema.

Going off memory, but I believe 21 Jump Street, The Raid, and a ****, I forgot the rest, are in front of The Avengers.

[saveus1011]

Care to list these marvels of Cinema.

WRATH OF THE TITANS, GOOD DEEDS, JOHN CARTER, and BIG MIRACLE.

[DarthVader 2004]

Your serious about Wrath AND 21 Jump Street. being better then this. Well Wrath Of The Titans was cool in places. I just never liked how they display Zeus as kinda wimpy

[saveus1011]

Sarcasm is in short supply today.

Go read my post in "2012 List" thread.

[MasterChief117]

Sarcasm is in short supply today.

Go read my post in "2012 List" thread.

Know your audience. ;)

[JBond]

This is a review thread, you know.

[Doomsday]

Wow, 14% on RT. Not lookin too good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083461-avengers/

[JBond]

Hey, that's a classic.

[PG Cooper]

Wow, 14% on RT. Not lookin too good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083461-avengers/

Before I even clicked the link I knew what you were doing. Well played.

[Neverending]

Before I even clicked the link I knew what you were doing. Well played.

Yeah, we all know this movie is called Marvel's Avengers Assemble.

[morpheus1987]

Wow, 14% on RT. Not lookin too good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083461-avengers/

Scared me for a second, although once I clicked the link I had a good laugh

[chaotic]

Wow, 14% on RT. Not lookin too good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083461-avengers/

i remember seeing that for my 11th birthday :(

[MasterChief117]

That was one of the first DVDs out, and first one my Dad ever bought. We still have it and it is still a worthless piece of ****. I hate it more then life itself.

[Wyldstaar]

I hate it more then life itself.

You hate life? How can you hate life, with movies like The Avengers and Dark Knight Rises on the horizon, or The Cabin in the Woods which is in theatres right now? Life as a movie fan is good this year.

[bbf2]

Wow, 14% on RT. Not lookin too good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083461-avengers/

Wow, I REALLY got played on this one. The picture didn't load on this computer, and I somehow missed the "1998" in the title, so I actually had time to read and digest the tomatometer, audience score, and total amount of reviews. I was really confused and disappointed for like 45 full seconds before I scrolled down and saw "British tv spy show adaptation" in the description. Well played sir.

On a similar note, how come the real movie doesn't have any reviews yet? Wasn't it screened for the press last week? Are they not allowed to publish reviews until the release day?

[sshuttari]

Embargoed until the week of release for professional critics.

[Neverending]

Critics don't really matter in this case. The public is already sold.

[DarthVader 2004]

I am wondering why in the clip where Loki and Stark are talking. Why is he at Starks home when by this time i assume he has his weapon. Unless he wants to shut down Stark who may have simular technology.

[Wyldstaar]

I am wondering why in the clip where Loki and Stark are talking. Why is he at Starks home when by this time i assume he has his weapon. Unless he wants to shut down Stark who may have simular technology.

Maybe the Cosmic Cube is in a secure lab somewhere in the building? Loki would certainly like to get his hands on that.

[DarthVader 2004]

Couldn't the Cosmic Cube actually be the Eye Of Oden. Odens other eye was blue and this thing gives off a blue light. To us and everyone else its great power but to a God Or Super Being like Oden its just a simple eye.

[Justin]

Seeing this on the 30th.

[Tornado]

Wish I could see this early. :(

Goddamn Wisconsin...

[Wyldstaar]

Couldn't the Cosmic Cube actually be the Eye Of Oden. Odens other eye was blue and this thing gives off a blue light. To us and everyone else its great power but to a God Or Super Being like Oden its just a simple eye.

The movie version of Odin lost his eye in battle against Laufey during the opening scene of Thor, as he described the war between Asgaradians and the Frost Giants. The Cosmic Cube is called the Tesseract in Captain America: The First Avenger, and is described by the Red Skull as once being the pride of Odin's treasure room. Considering the post-credits scene in Thor, it seems clear that it's more to Loki than "just a simple eye."

[DarthVader 2004]

I was never sure what the Cube was I must have forgotten it. I only saw Thor once. And that was almost a year ago.

[Neverending]

SHH is crashing again. So, I'm gonna bump this thread just to attract attention.

[DarthVader 2004]

I have a new question. In the trailer it talked about how we are so out gunned and all but doesn't Stark Supply the weapons for the army. Surely there is some good weapons then shown in the trailer from Stark Industries for the Military. Or was this just the plot to kinda forget that point and focus on the alien threat.

[sshuttari]

If you keep asking questions RedVader I'll give u the answers... But it will ruin your movie experience... Stop asking questions and watch the darn thing and then ask us questions so you don't get stuff spoiled.

[DarthVader 2004]

It wasn't a question about the movie per say but the army seeming to be using old weapons in the trailer. Its just a question about doesn't Stark supply weapons for the Military.

[sshuttari]

Don't you also remember him talking about how Stark Industries is going to stop trying to be a weapon company. I mean all those advanced weapons they made he said hes going to either stop selling and manufacturing them or if he did sell it to them still it would be with a very careful watchful eye.

[DarthVader 2004]

I am sure Shield wanted control of Stark Industries so maybe he'd make weapons for there cause. I did forget about him stopping allot of weapon building by the second movie.

[sshuttari]

I guess you'll just have to wait and see

[Neverending]

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[DarthVader 2004]

What point is this picture. Is this one of your great works of art. I'd stick to debating because your water colors talent needs work.

[carnage4u]

Wish I could see this early. :(

Goddamn Wisconsin...


In madison, we sometimes get lucky with some stuff, but it doesnt appear so with this.

[Deexan]

Ticket booked for Friday, in 2D.

BOOYAH!

[Neverending]

Ah yes, Avenger's Assemble is being released in the UK first.

[DarthVader 2004]

Thats usually always the case because isn't The UK a Friday before we are.

[Deexan]

It's out here a week before the US for whatever reason, though your time zone logic is also sound to an extent.

[Neverending]

It's out here a week before the US for whatever reason

Because foreign box office is more important. American audiences don't care about movie theaters anymore. Attendance has been down for the past decade.

[DarthVader 2004]

I still do and i know some must or they wouldn't go. Just maybe people are tired of crap and so decide to wait for better options to go to the movies for. Also ofcourse the BO over seas makes more money because its the rest of the world. While we are counting North America numbers.
WW or Domestic i think its a safe bet that This, The Dark Knight Rises, and The Hobbit should clean up rather well Globally and so on. I think all the other movies are an unknown guess as to weither they will be a success or not

[Wyldstaar]

Because foreign box office is more important. American audiences don't care about movie theaters anymore. Attendance has been down for the past decade.

Attendance is down, but the studios get to keep a higher percentage of the box office in the US than they do in most foreign markets. In the first week of release, the studios get to keep 90-95% of the domestic box office. The percentage elsewhere is lower, sometimes far lower.

Releasing a movie in the foreign market before the US also invites pirating. Why should I have to wait two weeks to see The Avengers when I can download a pirate copy for free today? While I personally prefer to see it for the first time on the silver screen, there are plenty of others out there who are not so picky. I just ran a quick check on my program of choice, and found hundreds of download sources for it. Now admittedly, at least half of those would no doubt turn out to actually be porn that's been labeled as The Avengers, but the other half is pirate copies of the actual movie.

[FranklinTard]

there is not even a cam version available. and any sort of reputable site would have those fakes taken down in seconds.

granted there will be some come friday, but i don't think you can equate a pirated copy as a lost sale.

probably go second week in, still have to rent thor from the library...

[Neverending]

the studios get to keep a higher percentage of the box office in the US

Not when a movie is grossing a billion dollars worldwide. Eventually those foreign profits add up. That's why these giant blockbusters get released overseas first. With a smaller film, you're right. The domestic profit is key. That's why John Carter is considered a flop even though it's doing well overseas. But a global phenomenon is a different story.

[sshuttari]

This movie is going too hit a Billion or more Worldwide... If anyone is expecting it not to there living in a cave and have no idea what the talking about.

[the elmo zombie]

This film is just so damn fun from beginning to end. The action is great, and the character scenes/dialogue is even better. Downey Jr. is more witty as Stark than in the Iron man films, and Ruffalo makes a fantastic Banner/Hulk. A great spectacle to start off the summer right.

[Deexan]

It will definitely break the billion dollar barrier, I can tell that just by the interest of my own family, who are all seeing it together tomorrow for the first time since Avatar.

[Ramplate]

Ooo one more week for us normal folk - can't wait
I don't like crowds but I think I may go opening night - especially since I bring my own seat anyway :P

[Youngy]

So The Avengers is finally upon us (in Britain anyway, over in the States you still have another week to wait. God knows where the logic in that is, but anyway) and fanboys can rejoice as their favourite superheroes are brought to the big screen together. Since the release of Iron Man in 2008, the excitement has just been building and today what I imagined throughout my childhood was put before me in the cinema.

The Avengers, if you don’t know the story by now, is the tale of these superheroes: Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye and Black Widow. Together they are brought together by Nick Fury and SHIELD to defeat the enemy that one single hero could never defeat alone. There is an army from another world waging war on Earth, led by Thor’s evil half brother, Loki. Family ties and egos get in the way but can these great people overcome their difficulties to save millions of lives?

The cast and director of the biggest superhero film to date.

The cast is incredible. Robery Downey Jr is, as we have come to expect as Tony Stark, fantastic. Joss Whedon’s snappy dialogue really lends itself to Downey’s portrayal of Stark excellently and he really continues to make the character so, just, amazing. Chris Hemworth is the Avenger stuck in the middle, on one side planet Earth and on the other his family, and he pulls off the torn God of Asgard well and the character continues to develop from his own film. Chris Evans as the ever warm hearted and honourable soldier Steve Rogers, or Captain America, is great. Jeremy Renner doesn’t have as much screen time as I would have liked or enough time to showcase his acting abilities but he does what he needs to, along with Cobie Smulders, Scarlett Johansson, Samuel L. Jackson and Clark Gregg. Tom Hiddleston once more continues to play the delightfully evil Loki but it is really Mark Ruffalo who impresses, especially as I was a big fan of Ed Norton as Bruce Banner but Ruffalo puts any doubts to bed almost immediately.

The Avengers is in a very lucky position in which all the characters are all already known to film audiences thanks to their own films. So here, we dive straight into the action and waste no time with character introductions which makes the first act one of the most compelling I have seen in recent times. How the heroes are brought together is very well done, it’s something I had my doubts about before watching and it could have been done very cliched so well done to Whedon for that. Thor’s arrival in the film in particular is well handled.

Hemsworth and Evans have expressed an interest in appearing in each other's sequels.

Most things that fans may question are put to bed almost immediately in The Avengers which leaves ties open to all of the other individual films that will surely follow once more. Things such as where Jane Foster is, why the Avengers are not after the Hulk (something alluded to during The Incredible Hulk‘s final scene) and how Thor returns to Earth are answered very quickly and very sensibly. The only thing is there is no mention of Peggy Carter which I think could have been hinted at (I know a scene that featured Steve and Peggy was cut but it would have been nice to have her name mentioned at least).

The Hulk is unlikely to get another film to himself.

The final war is incredible. These are some huge action scenes, whole sets are blown up and the special effects are phenomenal, especially in the case of the alien ships. Seeing Thor, Hulk, Cap and Iron Man all working together is something that is sure to get the fanboys worked up into a sweat and it will leave them grinning after leaving theatres for weeks afterwards. Watch out for the ‘continuous shot’ in the war scene which is one of the best scenes I have ever seen; in one shot we follow all the action and get to see each individual showcasing their skills. It looks as though one hero becomes the leader (although I shall leave out who so you can find out for yourself) and watching The Avengers one hero really steals the show: The Hulk. Ruffalo’s performance, as I said earlier, is really good! But when he turns into the Hulk you know that ***** is about to go down. Every time the Hulk is on the screen he is destroying things and he becomes the best possible weapon for SHIELD and the Avengers to be in possession of. Words just can not describe how good it is to see these heroes fighting side by side.

The Avengers is everything that a comic book movie should be. We have heroes with a lot of heart, not always getting along (and the insults and little ego battles are really entertaining), we have a villain with motivation and a real sense of evil. There are huge explosions, great action scenes and the dialogue is full of wit. The direction is top class and everything just comes together superbly. The only phrase to describe this movie is with these two words: absolutely orgasmic.

My Rating (a little biased): 10/10


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[nine1wing]

Really wish Norten was in this, but yeah this movie lived up to the hype, hope superman and batman are just as good. On a side note, the studios should have released this movie world wide at the same time, its all over the net now cuz its released overseas

[Deexan]

Well I guess somebody was bound to come into this thread and balance out all the over-the-top praise, I just didn't think it would be me.

Yes, there were some great action scenes here and there and some well placed humour but really it just felt like a series of scenes forced together solely to facilitate a final act that was too coincidental, too crowded and, crucially, TOO LONG.

And where is all this Ruffalo love coming from? The guy was a snooze-fest, where's Edward Norton when you need him? Ruffalo didn't have the look, the feel, the accent and oh-who-am-I-kidding-I-can't-do-this-any-more...

THE AVENGERS IS AWESOME!

Just go see it.

It's a lot to take in with all the references to all previous Marvel movies so I would definitely advise watching as many as you can a day or 2 before you go watch this.

My favourite part, and there were a lot of moments to choose from believe me, was the Hulk turning on his "power" at will. Badass.

Did anybody stay for the post-credits scene? If so, what do you make of it?

9/10

[sshuttari]

you gave it 9/10 thats still pretty high praise as far as some people are concerned

[Deexan]

Thanks for reading my whole review.

[sshuttari]

I did read your whole review. Yes you had minor concerns but over all you did enjoy it. We disagree about Hulk and Mark Ruffalo's character

You said it yourself in the end it was awesome

[DarthVader 2004]

A few of us went to see Pirates A Band Of Misfits but the operator had loaded The Avengers in. The boss had already left because it was 9:30 PM showing.
The Five people there at the time did not complain and so I got to see Avengers by accident a week early. Simply because the person working had left there glasses in there glove box and thought the real said Pirates A Band Of Misfits.

Any who I thought I would give my review. Now I have got to say I had no idea what this movie would be like. Yes I saw the clips and press conference and many things.
Truth be told this stuff gives not as much of the movie away as one would suspect.

The Trailers don't imply that The Hulk and Banner are really the best thing in the movie. You get allot of Iron Man stuff in the trailer mostly.
The Hulk has finally been done right and Ruffalo does the best job at playing Bixby in my view.
I would have liked to had seen more Nick Fury but that is barely a problem really.

Joss should have done the X-Men movies because he mixes these characters in the Avengers so very well.
Black Widow and Hawkeye are pleasant changes from the superpower members of the Avengers and they are just soldiers protecting there own kind.

Cap and Thor have good stuff at times but I would like to see more of Thor in Avengers 2. He was clearly the match for The Hulk and his altercations with Cap and Iron Man were very wicked.
That Brings me to Iron Man. This movie in my view does not fly without Iron Man and he don't work without RDJ. RDJ was fantastic and he and Banners friendship made you believe in the team when it does come together.

Iron Man has many great one liners but really I think this was the best The Suit had looked yet.
Now we come to the Villain Loki. I myself was hoping The Red Skull would have been the Villain or even Thanos. But Loki worked very well I thought and Loki was indeed one of the better Marvel villains that have been done since Marvel started this project with Iron Man 1 through the other 4 movies and this.

I did not stay for the end credits do to bladder issues but I saw the film and can say it does not fail on any level for me. Probably only The Dark Knight was the only better comic book movie in resent years.
I will say this Batman 3 Has a heavy task and Spider-Man reboot needs prayor to be better then this.

This was a fun ride and the Summer has begun and yet may have released the best summer movie since Iron Man 1 and TDK of that year.
They should fire Bay and higher Whedon to do Transformers 4.
Its not easy giving a perfect score so early in the summer and to be honest was not expecting Avengers to be this good.
Bring On MIB3,Promethus and TDKR because They have a heavy task ahead in beating this.
10/10

[Tornado]

Don't you live in the States Vader? I was under the impression that theaters don't get big releases like The Avengers until only a day or two until they're needed.

Anybody else think it's kind of absurd that it seems like every other country is getting this movie ahead of us? I was okay with the Harry Potter movies being released overseas first, that made perfect sense. English books, English cast, English movie, the UK and surrounding countries should get it first. But The Avengers? American comics, American cast, American movie, and the U.S. gets it last? Bull****.

[DarthVader 2004]

I know people who work in theaters and they tell me they get the next Fridays releases The Friday before. Now that may not be true in other theaters. I am just saying the one i go to they get the new releases on a Friday Before because they screen and watch them on wed to make sure they got good digital copies of the film. You don't want to start a movie that goes bad halfway in or something.
The dude put in the release for May 4th instead of April 27th.
If anyone like me who has lost glasses its hard to read small print.

[Ramplate]

I don't know about these days with newer movies, but back about 18 years ago a friend of mine had the job of setting up new films in our local theater - they used to have a couple of days to watch new movies to make sure everything was spliced and threaded correctly

[DarthVader 2004]

Well you can get a bad digital film too. I am sure people get the films before friday they just can't release it until Thursday Night at Midnight

[Ramplate]

Oh yeah lots of things can happen to a copy that's being shipped from place to place :)

[Deexan]

You said it yourself in the end it was awesome

Everything up until that point was tongue-in-cheek. C'mon, dude.

I honestly couldn't pick a single fault throughout.

[sshuttari]

Well giving it a 9/10 isn't going to make people think you some how went against the crowd... I'm just saying

[Deexan]

Well giving it a 9/10 isn't going to make people think you some how went against the crowd... I'm just saying

That's the point, I didn't go against the crowd. The problems I had with the film were fabricated, non-existent, fictitious... Just for s**ts and giggle my friend. Hence, "tongue-in-cheek".

[DarthVader 2004]

Part of his review seemed like he was joking and really did like the movie. It kinda didn't make any sense.

[sshuttari]

Yeah his opening sentence is confusing for once I'm actually saying it wasn't you Redvader and agreeing with you ;)

But anyways... I'm glad everyone seems to be enjoying it I can't wait to see what the rest of the summer is going to look like

[Tornado]

Part of his review seemed like he was joking and really did like the movie. It kinda didn't make any sense.

Oh sweet, sweet irony.

[Neverending]

Anybody else think it's kind of absurd that it seems like every other country is getting this movie ahead of us?

This has been happening for a few years now. I think Spider-Man 3 was the first to lead the pack. Remember all those leaked Venom footage? Studios are just more interested in overseas audiences because they're more consistent than us right now. Pirates 4 grossed a Billion worldwide even though it barely cracked $300 million in the States.

[Tornado]

I'd like to think that's because American audiences are smart enough to avoid drivel like that. The Dark Knight grossed over a billion worldwide, over half of that in the U.S.

And Spider-Man 3 only opened a couple of days earlier worldwide than it did in the U.S. Not a week or more like The Avengers is doing.

[Neverending]

I'd like to think that's because American audiences are smart enough to avoid drivel like that.

Let's not give American audiences too much credit. Twilight and Transformers are HUGE hits. The difference is that overseas audiences are more consistent. American audiences have become unpredictable because we have so many other entertainment options. Someone in a third world country isn't gonna have a home theater with HDTV, Blu Ray, and Surround Sound. So, going to the movie theaters is actually, you know, appealing.

[Tornado]

I'm still going with what I said. Pirates 4 didn't make as much money here because people are ****ing tired of it. The Twilight and Transformers films are brands that are still popular and well received within those circles here. The Pirates franchise burned its audiences with Pirates 2 and 3, making a 4th one wasn't going to go over well with the U.S.

And since when did the UK, Germany, or France become third world countries? Those countries are full of people just like you and me.

[DarthVader 2004]

I think this movie will do well and I think it should be on top until MIB3 or Battleship. Its very weird that Battleship is doing pretty good over seas. Every American critic opinion is Battleship will be horrible.

[Nick1988]

Battleship is looks like the biggest steaming pile of **** ever

[Neverending]

since when did the UK, Germany, or France become third world countries? Those countries are full of people just like you and me.

You're right. Those are the only three countries in the international market to get The Avengers and they will make up 90% of the overseas gross. :rolleyes:

Philippines - $2.4 million
South Korea - $ 2.3 million
Taiwan - $2.4 million

TOTAL - $7.1 million

Compare that to:

Germany - $1.4 million
New Zealand - $1.1. million

And for the record, the Avengers is doing the biggest business in...

Australia - $8.2 million

Australia, the homeland of Chris Hemsworth a/k/a Thor

[Tornado]

I didn't say that. Don't try and twist my words Neverending. You always do that and it's irritating as ****.

And Australia isn't a third world country either. You completely missed my point that a lot of the countries getting the movie early aren't third world, so your point has no merit.

[Ramplate]

http://demeritwear.com/catalog/greeting%20card%20(medicine)web.jpg

[Neverending]

Don't try and twist my words

You were doing the same exact thing. I'm aware that rich countries contribute to the pot as well. Japan and the UK, for example, are among the most crucial in the International market. But you don't reach a billion dollars by relying on one or two nations. Everybody has to contribute. That includes Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe. Right now, the Avengers has grossed $36 million overseas. $7.1 million is coming from Philippines, South Korea, and Taiwan.

As for Australia, I name dropped Chris Hemsworth. He's famous in his home country. He was a celebrity there before he came to the States. So, naturally, the marketing department is gonna take advantage of them and naturally Australia is leading the pack.

[Tornado]

Bottom line, I don't think the producers held back the release date for The Avengers because of a non-U.S. audience possibly being more consistent. I don't think that would cause them to push back the U.S. release date, I think that would just cause them to release it everywhere at once.

I would imagine they're trying to fight off piracy as long as they can.

[Neverending]

Summer 2012 is jam-packed. The first time since 2008. Releasing every major blockbuster nationwide clutters the market. 2007 experienced that when Spider-Man 3, Shrek the Third, and Pirates: At World's End were released nationwide within the same month.

It's better to give these films some breathing room. And if they were released in the U.S. first, they would be pirated overseas, especially Asia which is too important of a market. Sacrificing the U.S. and Canada in favor of Europe and Asia is smarter business at this point.

[Tornado]

Summer 2012 is jam-packed. The first time since 2008. Releasing every major blockbuster nationwide clutters the market. 2007 experienced that when Spider-Man 3, Shrek the Third, and Pirates: At World's End were released nationwide within the same month.

This is not even remotely related to what we're talking about. 2012 is a packed summer, I agree. I'm talking about releasing The Avengers at the same time around the world, not at the same time as TDKR or Prometheus.

It's better to give these films some breathing room. And if they were released in the U.S. first, they would be pirated overseas, especially Asia which is too important of a market. Sacrificing the U.S. and Canada in favor of Europe and Asia is smarter business at this point.

That's what I said. Don't take my point and try to make it your own.

[Neverending]

I'm talking about releasing The Avengers at the same time around the world, not at the same time as TDKR or Prometheus.

Battleship has already grossed $100 million overseas. Johnny Depp and Tim Burton have a big following in Japan. Will Smith has a proven track record and Men in Black 3 is not gonna get lost in the shuffle like most people are expecting. Especially with a Memorial Day release.

This summer isn't three movies, Tornado. June alone is jam-packed with anticipated films like Snow White, Pixar's Brave, and G.I. Joe 2.

Breathing room is essential.

[Tornado]

You would be right if it wasn't still April and The Avengers wasn't the first big summer movie of the year.

And for ****'s sake, you keep talking about giving movies breathing room but you don't seem to remember that there is only a week between The Avengers and Dark Shadows and then it's only another week until The Dictator and Battle****. In order to give said breathing room, shouldn't they have released the movie at the same time around the world?

Don't talk to me like a child, Neverending. Every point you're making doesn't matter in the scheme of what we're talking about, which is the fact that other countries are getting The Avengers ahead of us. I understand the whole piracy aspect of it (a point I made, not you), but everything you're saying is a lousy reason.

[Alien]

I'm only just home from seeing the movie for the first time, I need some time to let it all digest but I think I may have a new fave for all time best superhero movie ever.

[Deexan]

I felt the immediate need to see this again as soon as it finished. That hasn't happened for a long time. I think Batman Begins is still holding steady at the top of my list but this may well topple TDK from the number 2 spot.

[DarthVader 2004]

I am sure there are some Batman die hards who will deny until the bitter end that maybe this could be in the end the better hero movie of the summer. I love the batman movies. He is my favorite DC character but TDKR looks a bit dark and thats fine for Batman but maybe Avengers can be equal good but a different way. As in more fun and has things the Batman will not have.

[Wyldstaar]

I was at Target yesterday, and passed through the action figure section. There is a very large endcap dedicated to The Avengers as well as a section of the aisle. I'd seen it last week, and given it a cursory glance. This time, there was almost nothing to see. It had been stripped bare. Just a few videos, boardgames and Hulk Hands remained, and the movie hasn't even opened yet.

The Green Lantern action figures continue to linger in the clearance section.

[Neverending]

It doesn't surprise me. All these characters are very popular. Green Lantern is still B-list. Although this does bring up another observation. Will Nolan's Batman films ever create a merchandise bonanza? The closest its gotten is Joker costumers for Halloween and t-shirts. Compare that to the Burton-Schumacher films which made Billions in toy sales.

[Nick1988]

Nolans Batman films are a different type of franchise then the one that Burton/Schumacher released, those movies were geared towards the same audience that
Raimi's Spider-man films are geared to.

[Neverending]

You mean... children?

[sshuttari]

Avengers is geared towards TDK and Iron Man crowd.

[DarthVader 2004]

I don't think so. Avengers and Iron Man are not as depressing as Nolans Batman movies. What i mean is the batman movies have this dark tone while Iron Man is serious its also fun. I liked the batman films but they do have a darkness rating of about 75 percent while Iron Man and The Avengers is around 40 percent.

[sshuttari]

What I'm saying has nothing to do with the tone of the movie. Just the crowd I think the same people who will go see Avengers are going to see The Dark Knight Rises.

[Tornado]

I don't think so. Avengers and Iron Man are not as depressing as Nolans Batman movies. What i mean is the batman movies have this dark tone while Iron Man is serious its also fun. I liked the batman films but they do have a darkness rating of about 75 percent while Iron Man and The Avengers is around 40 percent.

What are you talking about?

[nine1wing]

I don't think so. Avengers and Iron Man are not as depressing as Nolans Batman movies. What i mean is the batman movies have this dark tone while Iron Man is serious its also fun. I liked the batman films but they do have a darkness rating of about 75 percent while Iron Man and The Avengers is around 40 percent.


That is why I think the avengers might come out on top this year money wise, I was just thinking about this yesterday. Out of the the 2 hour plus runtime of the avengers, I'd say its got at the most 10 minutes of fast forward spots, and the rest is humor and fun action.

[DarthVader 2004]

What are you talking about?

I have a darkness rating for comicbook movies and and characters. Batman is pretty dark and I just don't feel that Iron Man is as dark. I also think they don't per say have the exact same audience. Because some people who like dc characters hate Marvel ones and some Like Marvel Characters hate DC characters.

I personally have seen all the comic book movies thats been released since The Blade Movies.
I would call myself an X-Men and Batman fan first Spider-Man and The Rest second.

However I do believe RDJ made Iron Man fly and i ended up liking the movie and character more then i had comic book wise.
Batman and Iron Man have the same tones maybe but I think They are different and thus the people who see them are different.
People will favor Batman this year and some will Favor Avengers. Simply because of comic book politics more so then them being the same film genre.

Truth is i don't know how to explain what i mean. I just think Avengers and Batman are different and appeal to different people. So i don't see them attracting all of the same audience.

[Ramplate]

I think my collection of Batman related comic books is about the same size as my Avengers related comic book collection. I have well over 100 of each.

I don't really see them appealing strictly to different crowds

And I also have as many Iron Man comic books - including his first three appearances (in Tales of Suspense) and a near mint copy of Issue #1 of his own comic book.

The only two characters I didn't get into by themselves were the Hulk and Thor - I saw the Hulk as more of a monster than a hero, and Thor and company were always speaking in "thees and thous" like Shakespearean actors, when they should have had Norse accents lol
I do have some of each of those - but mainly for only crossover stories or special issues - I did go to see all three movies though.

[saveus1011]

This thread has a 25 percent darkness level.

[morpheus1987]

This thread has a 25 percent darkness level.

I don't know if I can go see a movie with a 75% darkness level. Sounds scary as ****.

[Ramplate]

I don't know if I can go see a movie with a 75% darkness level. Sounds scary as ****.

Depends upon what you're scared of - if you were afraid of tomatoes then you'd be horrified at Attack of the Killer Tomatoes :meanie:
http://movie-wallpapers.org/pictures/A/attack-of-the-killer-tomatoes/attack-of-the-killer-tomatoes_000.jpg

[DarthVader 2004]

To be honest in this case i am refering to comic darkness rating and thats not quite the same thing as a thriller or horror movie darkness rating. Comic wise the only dark film then Nolans Batman films have to be 300, Watchmen and The Blade Movies.

[Tony Montana]

Just got back (Imax + 3D) and all I can say is: it's all I was hoping for plus Hulk-on-fire!!

9/10 and the best comic book movie made till this day!!

[Ramplate]

To be honest in this case i am refering to comic darkness rating and thats not quite the same thing as a thriller or horror movie darkness rating. Comic wise the only dark film then Nolans Batman films have to be 300, Watchmen and The Blade Movies.

Spawn

Sin City

Punisher

Darkman - although that's not from a comic book - it is Raimi's idea based on the comic book genre (and because thank goodness he couldn't get the rights to Batman or others)

[MasterChief117]

The Crow and Daredevil can be added to that list as well.

[Nick1988]

The Crow is the darkest comic book movie i have ever seen, very dark.

[Nick1988]

I have a darkness rating for comicbook movies and and characters. Batman is pretty dark and I just don't feel that Iron Man is as dark. I also think they don't per say have the exact same audience. Because some people who like dc characters hate Marvel ones and some Like Marvel Characters hate DC characters.

I personally have seen all the comic book movies thats been released since The Blade Movies.
I would call myself an X-Men and Batman fan first Spider-Man and The Rest second.

However I do believe RDJ made Iron Man fly and i ended up liking the movie and character more then i had comic book wise.
Batman and Iron Man have the same tones maybe but I think They are different and thus the people who see them are different.
People will favor Batman this year and some will Favor Avengers. Simply because of comic book politics more so then them being the same film genre.

Truth is i don't know how to explain what i mean. I just think Avengers and Batman are different and appeal to different people. So i don't see them attracting all of the same audience.



I think The Dark Knight and Iron-Man in a sense are in the same level. They are both superhero movies that are very appealing to the adult crowd and also younger, sure Iron-Man isn't as "dark" as The Dark Knight, but it's a bit more of a adult oriented movie that can appeal to all ages, Jon Favreau found an incredible balance in the first film of being a comic book movie but also being not campy or corny at times like we have seen with the Spider-man films but also making it enjoyable for the younger audience as well.


I mean i consider Iron-Man 1 and The Dark Knight, along with Batman Begins, as superhero movies i would recommend to a person who isn't into superhero movies, to give a try and see if they like because i feel it's a movie that comic book fans and non comic book fans can consider great

[DarthVader 2004]

Seriously who gave this movie a 6/10 marking.

[Tornado]

Somebody who hasn't seen it, or is too coward to comment in this thread.

[Diablo]

It was me.


Kidding. I'm definitely checking this out Friday. I would even go to midnight showing but with my work now those days are over. Heh. Can't wait!

[DarthVader 2004]

Now its gotten a 3/10. You gotta love the Troll voters! Not, It gets quite annoying with the fake opinions trolls make.

[Ramplate]

The Crow and Daredevil can be added to that list as well.

I forgot all about The Crow - good one.

And yeah there is a certain darkness to DD too - it has become very ensconced in inner turmoil, religion, redemption, and pretty damn dark.

And speaking of dark characters - I would REALLY love to see a few Deathlok movies - that is such a great character!
I have a pretty good collection of those books as well (old, and newer series from the late 80's early 90's)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathlok

[DarthVader 2004]

I guess Hellboy and V For Vendetta ans Sin City can join that Drak movie club as well.

[Ramplate]

I forgot those too :)

[DarthVader 2004]

I Still think Nolans batman is dark but some of those mentioned. Like Blade and so on were comic book action horror. Blade is targeted to being dark. Sin City and so on are Dark Comics. Batman and Iron Man are for adults its just i think Nolans film have this somber feel. When I Say Batman is dark i mean in mood more so then actual horror or scary factor

[Tornado]

I'm definitely checking this out Friday. I would even go to midnight showing but with my work now those days are over. Heh. Can't wait!

I'm in the same boat. I would kill to go, but with my schedule... not a chance. I'll see it Friday night.

[MasterChief117]

Saturday, earliest showing for me. I've never been one for midnight opening or going on Friday to see a movie.

[Fanible]

My current plan is to see it in IMAX on Saturday morning. If we get a copy up and running early, I may try and see it on Thursday morning as well.

[Neverending]

This is the type of movie that I love to watch at midnight screenings. But tickets have gotten too expensive. We're at $11 in my neck of the woods, which is fine if you're paying for one ticket, but definitely not if you're paying for someone else's as well. Also, knowing what jackasses movie theaters are these days, they'll probably only offer the film in 3D. And they're now charging $5 extra for that. So, I'll just settle for the matinee hours.

[DarthVader 2004]

Well My theater is offering it At 12. Noon This weekend on saturday and sunday for 5.00 in 2d for the early matinee

[MovieBuff801]

Looks like I won't be seeing this til the 13th or so. Got end of semester/college graduation stuff from this weekend, all the way to the 12th.

[Neverending]

I'm sure MasterChief will have spoiled the movie by then.

[Tornado]

Now there has been a 2 and 3 3's in the poll. Goddamn trolls.

[PsYkOoOoO]

9/10. THE DID IT. Tremendous fun. More detailed review coming later.

[JackBauer]

here's a short review. spoilers will be marked.

the transformers-problem:
one of the greatest problems the movie had, was obviously to introduce the characters and their cohasion to the general audiance, which resulted in a 90% exposition-dialogue. due to that the movie was never able to evolve from it's transformers-level in making sense. the problem with extracting a huge green monster, a god, an iron man and captain america from a comic to a movie is that you have to try to make sense with that all of the time, and it worked for some time, but mostly resulted in random characters appearences, silly argumentation for the sake of "making sense", and it might've worked less campy with each character having his own movie, as we've seen but with all hero's gathered together, this movie is too hard trying to be....a movie, where it's just a comic.

the lack of imagination:
it was nearly unbearable how silly some ideas of the writers were. whereas i believe that even the most pointless brain actioner can be fun, with a decent plot, this movie proves another time that the most general plot rules works for the thumb general audience, which is ready to pay each time for the same story over and over. wanna hear it? here we go: it's about saving the world.
only this time the writers found a highly original way to solve the ending:
it's a nuclear rocket launched towards innocent citizens, and our hero manages to direct the thing towards a portal which destroyes the invading enemy wow. as if a nuclear threat wasn't in every action movie, i think this had to be in here. when that part was about to happen i completely gave up the movie. coud've handeled many things so far, already had a 5/10 for the movie, but that just made me believe that the writers and the director had ZERO visionary abilities to make this movie anything more than a cheesy, stupid-ass action fest with a thoroughly hollow plot and overdrawn characters. last movie that sucked plot wise, in case you forgot, was MI4, due to it's repetitive plot and of course the - du dum -:nuclear threat!!! hey i don't know how to build a plot, what coud we make, let's...ah let's make: a nuclear threat!!!!. no no no wait, i have a better idead:: guess what: a nuclear threat!!! god this is awefully boring. that no producer has approved or a writer has managed to write a story that is fast paced, filled with action and yet original and doesn't include the typical elements nuclear threat, and is able to surprise, that fact is beyond my understanding. a good reference would be "thor". a movie that worked, bc it wasn't given such a large scale of destruction, not an enemie who was about to eat the whole planet, it was kind of saying "less is more"...of course that wouln't work for a movie such as the AVENGERS, but still it was a terrible plot and could've been done different.

the only good thing about this movie is the somewhat flashing meet ups between the main characters, and i remember laughing when the hulk punched thor but that was pretty much it. in general i saw where they were heading to, giving each character it's very own profile, but that just didn't make sense with some other useless characters:

that woman under nick fury or whatever his name was
the agent who died and i didn't care for one second
nick fury himself. since jackson takes every role nowdays, it's no wonder he's in this.nick fury is the typical bad ass mother****er who needn't be in any movie except maybe the expendables 4...
the other characters were hawkeye with his silly costume (at least give him a mask) and scarlett johanson with her pistols. if you really make an avengers movie and make everything campy, do it right! draw the characters harder, hawkeye was softcore and very uninspired. could've been way more ninja ass and less about this freaking thechnique. wow, he has different type of arrows...who cares. except of course the exposition, since he has to randomely shot down Loki. very original way to solve typical screenwriting problems.

writer 1: an aircraft-carrier is just so awesome, let's put it in the movie!
writer 2: ok.
writer 1: how about we make it a camouflage aircraft-carrier with hover-ability???
writer 2: sure, want another iced latte macchiato?
writer 1: with some cream on top please.
big ****ing deal...i mean, seriously. that was nearly G.I.Joe suckness, i mean what catfish came up with such an idea..?

some out-of-contest question:
why can't thor think for himself and use his...erm lightning? why does he need another guy to tell him what to do. he's a god!

well, for me this movie was nearly where i expected it to be, especially after all these fanboyish 10/10...i just give up and assume that people demand nothing more nowdays than completely repetitive plots with some silly ass action....

massively overrated movie. very average.

4/10

[JackBauer]

Now its gotten a 3/10. You gotta love the Troll voters! Not, It gets quite annoying with the fake opinions trolls make.

hey catfish, i've been around these forums for almost a decade, why don't you stop calling everyone who hasn't YOUR opinion a troll. since YOU have a true opinion (as a conclusion of you calling every other opinion "fake" which isn't a 9/10 rating or above), i suggest you either tell us the definition of TROLL and explain how someone who don't agree with you is one, or stay away from a keyboard for the rest of your life.

[Frizzo the Clown]

Why don't we all relax with the name calling, or it won't matter how long any of you have been here.

[Ramplate]

Moving right along....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/ramplate/1327677960189.gif

I hate my theater - they're not showing show times in advance online - or maybe that's just Yahoo... they're so bad recently

[Deexan]

There wasn't enough of a
nuclear threat
if you ask me.

The one thing I thought as I left the theatre was "needs more nuclear threat."

[Ramplate]

Cow bell?

[Daniel]

nuclear threat, y'all

[Moviefan]

the movie hand't come out unitl friday iprobbley wontbe able to see it friday maybe sautday

if they make a squeal t o The Avengerswho would you like to see i know some people said ant-man.

i knowth some were inThe Avengers at some pont in time
dare devil
spider-man
fanstic four
ghostrider

[JackBauer]

Why don't we all relax with the name calling, or it won't matter how long any of you have been here.

I'm totaly relaxed. :D

[Hollywood]

For the ones who saw it, is the movie worth getting in 3D or is the 3D not that good in this movie?

[MasterChief117]

All reviews say stay away from 3D.

[saveus1011]

For the ones who saw it, is the movie worth getting in 3D or is the 3D not that good in this movie?

3D is asinine in this movie. DO NOT go in it.

[Ramplate]

nuclear threat, y'all

No, you can never have enough cow bell:meanie:

[Fanible]

I have yet to see a review that said the 3D was outright bad. I would assume the theater saveus1011 went to just had it poorly projected. Some have said it's very good during action scenes, and pointless during anything else. The worst I've seen said is that it doesn't add nor detract. That sentiment, however, means it's still pointless paying for the upcost, so you might as well see it in 2D.

Every review I've seen for IMAX 3D says it looks pretty good, which doesn't surprise me, because the trailer looked fantastic.

I'll find out soon enough. I'll probably see it at least once in 2D and once in IMAX 3D. I have yet to see a movie in regular 3D that has impressed me, so I probably won't bother trying with that. At best, I may just step into one of the regular 3D showings for a moment or two, just to take a look.

[DarthVader 2004]

hey catfish, i've been around these forums for almost a decade, why don't you stop calling everyone who hasn't YOUR opinion a troll. since YOU have a true opinion (as a conclusion of you calling every other opinion "fake" which isn't a 9/10 rating or above), i suggest you either tell us the definition of TROLL and explain how someone who don't agree with you is one, or stay away from a keyboard for the rest of your life.

Well least you have guts to admit that you hated the movie. But i don't think i was addressing anyone in particular. More then often you get low voting but seldom do they admit who voted a certain way.
I am sure many won't like this movie. Because there are those crazy fans who will trash a movie over the slightest detail being off.
Your welcome to hate it people but i just think your wrong and its a shame because its a fun movie and think some need not be film critics and just try to go and have fun at the movies.

[saveus1011]

It's possible, but considering the theater I saw it in, who put the screening on, and that I wasn't alone in my opinion, that seems highly unlikely.

[DarthVader 2004]

For the ones who saw it, is the movie worth getting in 3D or is the 3D not that good in this movie?

The 3d is ok but i have seen 3d so much i have trouble telling major differences. I am seeing it again on Sunday in 2d. If your theater has that option id stick with 2d viewing if you have concerns

What I mean about 3d is this? If you watch 3d too much you don't notice things least i don't Because i got use to seeing allot of movies in 3d. And after a while i didn't notice the difference other then if removed the glasses.

It's possible, but considering the theater I saw it in, who put the screening on, and that I wasn't alone in my opinion, that seems highly unlikely.

I know people who have seen this in 2D and said it was much better viewing then in 3d. Why not check out the movie in 2d to make sure what your verdict is. If 3D was the problem you had.

hey catfish, i've been around these forums for almost a decade, why don't you stop calling everyone who hasn't YOUR opinion a troll. since YOU have a true opinion (as a conclusion of you calling every other opinion "fake" which isn't a 9/10 rating or above), i suggest you either tell us the definition of TROLL and explain how someone who don't agree with you is one, or stay away from a keyboard for the rest of your life.
7 and 6 are honest opinions I think. When You get 2 and 3's it usually means your getting people who never gave the movie a chance to begin with.
a Troll to me is someone who has an opinion but never really tries to defend of explain that opinion. That troll just spreads hate and name calling and yet doesn't make any sense to why he hated the movie.

[Fanible]

It's possible, but considering the theater I saw it in, who put the screening on, and that I wasn't alone in my opinion, that seems highly unlikely.

Well if the theater has older digital projectors, and/or it wasn't setup perfectly, it makes sense that you wouldn't be alone in your opinion. Everyone else there would have probably also thought it looked bad. The possibility is there, if only because the majority of the reviews I've read have been saying this is one of the better conversion jobs done for a 3D movie.

But I'm at an awkward middle ground as far as discussions on 3D go. As I said, I have yet to see a movie in regular 3D (typically RealD) that I thought looked good. So I probably would have thought it looked subpar either way.

My theater is suppose to be getting a complete overall on digital projectors sometime this year. Brand new ones, which most, if not all, are going to be 4K. I thought it would have logically happened already, before the Summer movies began, but it hasn't yet. I will be curious to see if the newer, brighter projectors make an overall improvement on 3D in RealD.

[DarthVader 2004]

To be honest I paid more attention to the movie and less on the 3D effects. For me after a while once I slipped on the glasses and 3D movie to me looked like a movie after I got used to see 3D.
Avatar, Tin Tin and The Guardians Of Gahoole are the only movies i remembered the effects in 3d being good.
To where i really noticed being in a 3D movie. Most of the Comic book movies and the other movies done in 3d I cannot recall that they were obviously using 3D

[JackBauer]

Well least you have guts to admit that you hated the movie. But i don't think i was addressing anyone in particular. More then often you get low voting but seldom do they admit who voted a certain way.
I am sure many won't like this movie. Because there are those crazy fans who will trash a movie over the slightest detail being off.
Your welcome to hate it people but i just think your wrong and its a shame because its a fun movie and think some need not be film critics and just try to go and have fun at the movies.

You're missing my point dude. I DID have fun watching it. It's just think it's a bad movie. Nonetheless, i won't argue as to why, i just think it's not necessary to call people trolls who don't agree with you. I'm sure many others liked it, so the fact that someone else didn't will surely not ruin anything for you, so we can all just talk about movies in a civilized way...



...i still think thor should've AT LEAST ONCE worn his bloody helmet...but oh well.

pumped for the amazing spiderman!!!!!

[DarthVader 2004]

Your pumped to see The Raimiless Spider-Man but disliked Avengers. I hope The Amazing Spider-Man is half way decent but i just have a bad feeling. I hope I am wrong but don't think it will come close to being good as this or Batman 3.

[Nick1988]

The 3d is ok but i have seen 3d so much i have trouble telling major differences. I am seeing it again on Sunday in 2d. If your theater has that option id stick with 2d viewing if you have concerns

What I mean about 3d is this? If you watch 3d too much you don't notice things least i don't Because i got use to seeing allot of movies in 3d. And after a while i didn't notice the difference other then if removed the glasses.



I know people who have seen this in 2D and said it was much better viewing then in 3d. Why not check out the movie in 2d to make sure what your verdict is. If 3D was the problem you had.


7 and 6 are honest opinions I think. When You get 2 and 3's it usually means your getting people who never gave the movie a chance to begin with.
a Troll to me is someone who has an opinion but never really tries to defend of explain that opinion. That troll just spreads hate and name calling and yet doesn't make any sense to why he hated the movie.


You answered his question twice...

[PsYkOoOoO]

I really want to watch this again.

[Tornado]

Be happy you've seen it once. We're still waiting. :(

[PsYkOoOoO]

Well, that's what the rest of the world generally feels like with most movies out there. :P

[Tornado]

Most movies in American cinema are American-made, shouldn't they be released here first by default?

[PsYkOoOoO]

Yeah, I understand, and it does make sense for them to do that. I wonder what's the logic of releasing The Avengers THIS EARLY to the rest of the world, though.

[sshuttari]

For the ones who saw it, is the movie worth getting in 3D or is the 3D not that good in this movie?

All reviews say stay away from 3D.

3D is asinine in this movie. DO NOT go in it.



Every review I've seen for IMAX 3D says it looks pretty good, which doesn't surprise me, because the trailer looked fantastic.

I'll find out soon enough. I'll probably see it at least once in 2D and once in IMAX 3D. I have yet to see a movie in regular 3D that has impressed me, so I probably won't bother trying with that. At best, I may just step into one of the regular 3D showings for a moment or two, just to take a look.


See it in IMAX 3D it was great! I loved it and will probably see it again in IMAX 3D

[chaotic]

Most movies in American cinema are American-made, shouldn't they be released here first by default?

especially when a character in the movie is called Captain America :redface:

[Justin]

Unfortunately I missed the showing on Monday, looks like I'll be seeing it Friday morning....

[DarthVader 2004]

But If pay attention Fury says in the trailer. You threaten my world with war. That makes me very desperate. Fury doesn't say you threaten The United States. My feeling is the Avengers protect all things human more the nation deal.

[Tornado]

O... K...

Doesn't change the fact that it's an American movie.

[DarthVader 2004]

Well Yes Its an american produced film but Avengers are world wide heroes so maybe we americans should not complain and be glad its coming. Patience is a virtue and good things come to those that wait.

[Ramplate]

TinTin was more familiar to European audiences than American audiences - but released here.

I think the studio was thinking "let's see how many more $$ we can get from the rest of the world first (rather than after it is released at home), because we know the American audience will be there, and maybe we can get more bucks instead of it leaking on the internet first for those foreign markets."

Oh and ok so Cap, Ion Man, Hulk, and Hawkeye are American - Black Widow is Russian, and Thor is not of this world but technically Norwegian - sort of.

[DarthVader 2004]

Maybe they saw for a month how well a crappy movie like Battleship was making a killing over seas and decided that maybe early would be extra gold for them. Also by next weekend Avengers could be close to 600 million world wide after weekend 2 globally and whatever monster hall the US brings in its opening weekend.

[Deexan]

The release dates were confirmed way before Battleship came out in any territory.

[Neverending]

Mark Ruffalo is still in Indie Actor mode. In interviews he doesn't give a s--t and reveals more than he probably should. In one interview he said that Scarlett Johansson was messing around with the stunt men in a hot tub. In another he said that Chris Evans and Jeremy Renner got into a Dance Dance Revolution battle. LOL.

[Fanible]

This movie really is going to be amazing!

[Neverending]

This movie really is going to be amazing!

The commentary track on the DVD and Blu-Ray will be hilarious if Mark Ruffalo is off the leash.

[Alien]

hey catfish, i've been around these forums for almost a decade, why don't you stop calling everyone who hasn't YOUR opinion a troll. since YOU have a true opinion (as a conclusion of you calling every other opinion "fake" which isn't a 9/10 rating or above), i suggest you either tell us the definition of TROLL and explain how someone who don't agree with you is one, or stay away from a keyboard for the rest of your life.
"Hey Catfish"? Is that some sort of internet insult I don't understand?
Most movies in American cinema are American-made, shouldn't they be released here first by default?
NO! It should be day/date! I'm sick of Yanks getting movies first and then when that 1 in 10 movies we do get first comes along they do nothing but moan. Day/date on movies fixes that problem!

[DarthVader 2004]

I didn't understand Catfish name at me either. I am sure its nothing too important to even think about.

[Alien]

There is a movie called Catfish that has something to do with internet dating and Facebook, I've not seen it yet so I don't know the details. I don't know if that's related.

[Tornado]

NO! It should be day/date! I'm sick of Yanks getting movies first and then when that 1 in 10 movies we do get first comes along they do nothing but moan. Day/date on movies fixes that problem!

I'm fine with that too. This week early bull**** with The Avengers is just not acceptable.

[DarthVader 2004]

I think a movies should be released everywhere at the same time so it can get on dvd faster.

[Alien]

I understand that it is apparently more expensive to go day/date globally but with summer blockbusters that are going to make the money back there is no excuse. Avengers might have flopped, but really what were the chances?

Day/date helps reduce piracy too. Now, if an American couldn't wait to see The Avengers they could download a UK pirated rip. With piracy such a big and easy thing and the peer pressure to see the movie caused by the global social aspect of the internet, day/date just makes more sense.

[DarthVader 2004]

I like knowing that the movie is doing so well. If i hadn't seen it yet. I would kinda like like to hear word of mouth that the movie is good. Other then some hollywood reviewer.
I am not totally against this movie being released elsewhere simply because all have heard has been good things except for a few minor complainers.

[shained]

Just got back from seeing this in IMAX 3d and it was quality!

Thought it might struggle having so many characters to squeeze in but it does a great job and the film is ****ing hilarious. Not the cheesy funny I was expecting either, plent of times the whole cinema was pissing themselves laughing.

May need to let it settle in but I can't think of many faults, Sam Jackson carrying a block of cheese on his shoulder aside.

[Tornado]

Bought my tickets. Seeing it at 10:25 PM Friday night at an UltraScreen. I've never been to an UltraScreen, so I figured The Avengers would be a good first opportunity. No 3D (intentionally).

[shained]

Would have preferred a non 3D myself but that was the only option for IMAX.

[IanTheCool]

Oh crud, I don't know if my showing is 3D or not...

Damn it, it is. Oh well.

[Neverending]

Oh crud, I don't know if my showing is 3D or not...


Um... didn't you notice when you paid for the tickets? 2D and 3D prices are not the same.

[Fanible]

Seeing it in IMAX tonight. Three hours. :D

[DarthVader 2004]

My theater is showing it in two seperate screens. One will be shown in 3d the Other In 2D and there at different show times. I saw it in 3D and I noticed the movie more then effects and the movie too me was so good that i really didn't think about the 3D tricks and things.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Remember to stay for BOTH the end credit scenes, guys.

[Tornado]

Yeah. From what I've read, the second scene really isn't a big deal. Very Whedon-esque, but not terribly important. But the first mid/post credits scene is necessary to what will be the second stage for the MCU.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Yeah, it isn't important to the plot, but stay till the very end anyway.

[Tornado]

I mostly meant it for the people who've already seen it. If you were inclined to see it again anyway, by all means. But if you were thinking of going again just to see the additional scene, wait until it's on YouTube.

[FranklinTard]

don't want to read too much of this thread, but for those that have seen it, do i need to see thor beforehand?

is it explained, loki's motivation that is, for people that hadn't seen thor?

[DarthVader 2004]

Well Yes Thor should be viewed unless you know who loki is comic book wise and Thor. I'd see the movie anyway because its good and you see Thor's more human qualities then you did in the Avengers. If see Cap and Thors movie you kinda like them more when see them in the Avengers. Then if you just see them in this movie.

[shained]

Too fully appreciate the film I'd say all the marvel films, with the exception of the incredible hulk, are vital.

You'd still enjoy the film without them but as they say the whole is greater than the sum of all the parts.

[DarthVader 2004]

Too fully appreciate the film I'd say all the marvel films, with the exception of the incredible hulk, are vital.

You'd still enjoy the film without them but as they say the whole is greater than the sum of all the parts.

Well actually I say the end of the TIH you kinda get a small hint about Banner and Hulks need for the other which kinda plays a somewhat big role in The Avengers Banner and Hulk evolution into that story.

[JackBauer]

Your pumped to see The Raimiless Spider-Man but disliked Avengers. I hope The Amazing Spider-Man is half way decent but i just have a bad feeling. I hope I am wrong but don't think it will come close to being good as this or Batman 3.

raimi's spiderman films were ok back then, but now looking at them i really am glad he's doing no more spidey-films, since i'm really not keen on seeing MJ screaming through the entire movie and getting kidnapped by someone. so repetitive. and god forbid this dialogue was terribly cheesy.

from all i've watched TAS looks tons better, and i have no doubt that this is a more genuine approach than the raimi rehash campfest.

[MasterChief117]

So, what is this new movie coming out tomorrow called The Avendures? I've never heard of that one...

[DarthVader 2004]

raimi's spiderman films were ok back then, but now looking at them i really am glad he's doing no more spidey-films, since i'm really not keen on seeing MJ screaming through the entire movie and getting kidnapped by someone. so repetitive. and god forbid this dialogue was terribly cheesy.

from all i've watched TAS looks tons better, and i have no doubt that this is a more genuine approach than the raimi rehash campfest.

I do like the look of the Lizard. The couple of shots tells me maybe the low budget isn't a bad thing for Spider-Man remake. This and GI Joe could be the biggest summer unexpected joys. People are so hooked on Batman 3, Avengers and Promethus that maybe we are missing better films.

[MasterChief117]

People are so hooked on Batman 3, Avengers and Promethus that maybe we are missing better films.

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[DarthVader 2004]

It was a joke. While GI Joe 2 looks far better its not going to be as good as Avengers and surely not TDK2 or Promethus. The Amazing Spider-Man will likely be 4th best unless GI Joe to is very amazing.

[MasterChief117]

That was a joke....?

[Alien]

Remember to stay for BOTH the end credit scenes, guys.
Bloody Yanks... :mad:

[Ramplate]

I always stay until the end credits are over - ever since Ferris Bueller told us to "go home"
:P

[Deexan]

The 2nd post-credits scene was apparently not attached to international screenings.

And Franklin you should watch Thor, not just because it's heavily connected to The Avengers but because it's also the best Marvel film to date.

Scratch that, 2nd best...after The Avengers.

[DarthVader 2004]

Thor is pretty good on its own but I for some reason liked The Iron Man movies better. And I know many hated 2. Anyone going to watch Chris Helmsworth in Snow White and The Huntsmen.

[shained]

Didn't stay for either scene :(

I'll just grab them on YouTube.

[Neverending]

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