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nine1wing
08-11-2011, 05:13 PM
In “Why more reboots?!” news, CinemaBlend is reporting that the Batman franchise will be rebooted after the release of the third Christopher Nolan-verse Batman film, “The Dark Knight Rises”.

According to the Warner Brothers executive Jeff Robinov in an interview with the L.A. Times, “We have the third Batman, but then we’ll have to reinvent Batman… Chris Nolan and [wife and producing partner] Emma Thomas will be producing it, so it will be a conversation with them about what the next phase is.”

As a longtime Batman fan, I’ve been thrilled with the Nolan-verse Batman films (yes, I’m one of those people who figuratively bows down to Heath Ledger’s Joker). Because I’m such a fan, I’d love for the films to just end after the third one and for Warner Brothers to wait a few years until they jump back into Batman-lore. But to reboot the entire thing right after “Dark Knight Rises”?! Come on, WB! Give me (and other fans) a second to breathe!

Reboots and remakes have been en vogue with studios for years now, but this feels like overkill. Could they just leave Batman alone and move onto Robin or other DC characters like The Green Arrow or The Flash or, my favorite, The Martian Manhunter? Just leave Batman alone for right now.

What do you think about this news? Does it rankle your feathers?



Read more: http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/03/29/batman-to-be-rebooted-after-the-dark-knight-rises/#ixzz1UlFG8VPf

nine1wing
08-11-2011, 05:15 PM
one more question, I thought Nolan only wanted to do 3? Now it sounds like hes up for more. Does this mean batman dies in this next one?????????

Deexan
08-11-2011, 05:56 PM
I think Nolan said a while ago that if they continued with the franchise after the 3rd one (which they'll obviously do in some form) he'll remain on board as producer to oversee things.

PG Cooper
08-11-2011, 06:03 PM
My dream Batman film after Nolan is through is for them to adapt Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. It won't happen because the mainstream would be confused but still, I think it could be incredible.

nine1wing
08-11-2011, 06:18 PM
If Nolan comes back do you think bale will for another? And if not who should replace him?

Doomsday
08-11-2011, 06:38 PM
My dream Batman film after Nolan is through is for them to adapt Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. It won't happen because the mainstream would be confused but still, I think it could be incredible.

I'd love to see Dark Knight Returns too. And I don't think Tim Burton or Michael Keaton are incredibly busy at the moment so.....

Dracula
08-11-2011, 06:47 PM
Maybe Batman dies at the end of rises...

PG Cooper
08-11-2011, 06:50 PM
I'd love to see Dark Knight Returns too. And I don't think Tim Burton or Michael Keaton are incredibly busy at the moment so.....
Tim Burton needs to stay the hell away. He'd make it too Tim Burtony and lose sight of the fact that it's a Batman movie.

PG Cooper
08-11-2011, 09:06 PM
Call me crazy, but a live-action Batman: Year One directed by Martin Scorsese would be really interesting.

DarthVader 2004
08-11-2011, 10:31 PM
I doubt they will kill Batman i mean this is basically his 3 years as Batman. The best way to go is to Do Batman Beyond and cast an old guy as Bruce Wayne. Ian McKellan would be cool

Ramplate
08-11-2011, 10:41 PM
no ^

Doomsday
08-12-2011, 12:31 AM
Tim Burton needs to stay the hell away. He'd make it too Tim Burtony and lose sight of the fact that it's a Batman movie.

You're right, Burton wouldn't know how to make a good Batman movie.

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Fresh Prince
08-12-2011, 12:49 AM
Call me crazy, but a live-action Batman: Year One directed by Martin Scorsese would be really interesting.

Make it more gangster like film? I love it! Batman deals with gangsters his first year anyways. But why are they rebooting again? Why not just continue with Batman being Batman but as a veteran and in a different universe from Nolan's. Nuless for the reboot they do what Burton did with Batman 1989 and just have Batman already Batman but in his first year crime fighting.

ScottysAir
08-12-2011, 12:49 AM
My dream Batman film after Nolan is through is for them to adapt Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. It won't happen because the mainstream would be confused but still, I think it could be incredible.

Maybe the release date will be change. Whether if he decide to do reboot the Batman movie. If they will come out sometime in between 2013 or 2014, if necessary.

Fresh Prince
08-12-2011, 12:51 AM
Call me crazy, but a live-action Batman: Year One directed by Martin Scorsese would be really interesting.

I could see Robert De'Nero as Carmine Falcone, Leo Decaprio as Sal Maroni, Martin Sheen as the corrupt Mayor of Gotham City, Matt Damon as Bruce Wayne/Batman. I joking.:)

PG Cooper
08-12-2011, 01:54 AM
You're right, Burton wouldn't know how to make a good Batman movie.

VRqa47-jv0M

He has made a great Batman film, but he also made Returns which, while I don't hate, is not what I want in a Batman film. Plus, I just don't think Burton has the right sensibilities for The Dark Knight Returns. That's just me.

But I like the Keaton choice.

Nick1988
08-12-2011, 05:23 AM
I loved Batman Returns, i liked it more than Batman 89 actually.

DarthVader 2004
08-12-2011, 08:33 AM
no ^

Well some older British Guy would do. Its a better way to continue Batman without Bale. Batman Beyond is something not done as batman. A futuristic batman. On the other hand I think they should include Robin and BatGirl before they reboot. Simply because it just feels unfinished if they stopped doing this Batman here.

nine1wing
08-12-2011, 09:01 AM
No, no side kicks, if he needs side kicks then that means there are to many villians and we know how that turns out. Spiderman three and batman and robin

Nick1988
08-12-2011, 09:11 AM
Well some older British Guy would do. Its a better way to continue Batman without Bale. Batman Beyond is something not done as batman. A futuristic batman. On the other hand I think they should include Robin and BatGirl before they reboot. Simply because it just feels unfinished if they stopped doing this Batman here.

No,No,No and even bigger no of Ian Mcellean as a older Bruce Wayne. That was a joke right?

And Robin and Bat-girl aren't going to be in any films Nolan sees over, and thankfully so

Batman is better with NO side kicks.

And what do you mean "some older British guy"?Bale's Batman doesn't sound anything likea British guy what so ever, , so it would be very odd ..not to mention stupid if an older Bruce Wayne all of sudden has a british accent. I am not sure how you came to the conclusion that a older British guy should be an older Bruce Wayne.

Fresh Prince
08-12-2011, 09:50 AM
I agree Batman does not need any side kicks. They just slow him down.

Deexan
08-12-2011, 10:35 AM
Vader it probably seems unfinished because you have seen the last third of it yet.

Fresh Prince
08-12-2011, 12:55 PM
I like PG Cooper idea with the Batman: Year One live action film directed by Martin Scorsese.

Movie mogul
08-14-2011, 05:42 AM
You're right, Burton wouldn't know how to make a good Batman movie.

VRqa47-jv0M

:lol:

nine1wing
08-14-2011, 06:57 PM
Yeah they were alright, I guess I'd love them more if I enjoyed prince songs blaring while watching them throw paint onto everything...(gaaaaaaay) just wish Jack wasn't so fat in the original

DarthVader 2004
08-15-2011, 01:40 AM
For starters Burton had not what they can do now effects wise. I consider Batman 89 and Batman Begins 2 of the best Batman films made.

Now I think people assume when I say Robin in a batman movie I am talking holy underwear Robin or something.
Dick Grayson can be done and not make him like in Batman and Robin Robin or 60s show Robin.
I think Robin would add that family feel that I think I liked best about the comics years ago.
I am just saying I would not do a reboot. If need a new Batman get one. Because Bale while good isn't the best thing about them.
I am just saying its unlikely they will kill Batman just beat him up a bit.

PG Cooper
08-15-2011, 11:11 AM
It's not just good special effects that would be required to bring The Dark Knight Returns to the big screen though. I don't think Burton is the right director to handle the material, and no amount of special effects will ever change that.

As for Robin. In a reboot, I wouldn't be inherently oppose to it.

DarthVader 2004
08-15-2011, 01:39 PM
They can Have Barbara Gordon but not nessasarily have Batgirl I suppose. She however could know his secret

ScottysAir
08-15-2011, 01:57 PM
They can Have Barbara Gordon but not nessasarily have Batgirl I suppose. She however could know his secret

Yes, it will work out very well. She can do play the Batman movie. She always welcome to join the movie. How about Dick Grayson as Robin?

SkeleTony
08-17-2011, 08:00 PM
Burton's 1989 Batman movie was absolutely horrible! The fact that Returns and the rest of the sequels were even worse does not change this. 1989's Batman featured a terrible script by a screenwriter so incompetent he almost has not been heard from since his terrible Batman efforts and it complemented that with bad acting, absurd casting(Jack Nicholson is a great actor but he is not the Joker, Michael Keaton is a great actor as well but he is no more 'Batman' than Woody Allen!) and confused plotting/pacing. It comes off as a series of disjointed fan-made films or music videos or some crap.

Bob Ringwood's costume design was great though.

SkeleTony
08-17-2011, 08:06 PM
Thing thing I am dreading is the The Spirit may have been a training film for Frank Miller and they will end up asking him to direct The Dark Knight Returns and as he tried to do to Year One(when Aronofsky was attached and Miller wrote the script) he will try his damnedest to mess it up...replacing Joker with a compulsive gambler named "Jokester", Alfred with the twin Mechanics named "Big Al" and "Little Al", making Batman's costume some sort of Iron Man type suit etc.

Nick1988
08-18-2011, 05:17 AM
Frank Miller is such a prick, can't stand that guy.

Fresh Prince
08-21-2011, 12:14 PM
WB not letting Miller direct a Batman film after what he did with The Spirit.

Moviefan
09-20-2011, 11:45 PM
instead of rebooting it how about making live action batman beyond.

Tornado
09-21-2011, 07:31 AM
I'm on board with them making more Bat-films after TDKR, but I don't feel like a reboot is necessary. With the increasingly dramatic upswing in villains with The Joker, Two-Face, and now Bane, I think they could probably take this realistic approach and bring in whoever they want - Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Killer Croc, etc.

Gmanaz
09-23-2011, 06:26 AM
I wonder if in Nolans contract with WB, it says they cannot continue his ideas or forumla after his run at doing Batman. Otherwise, there are many talented directors who could pick up the mantle and continue the Nolanverse.
As for the 3rd film. would love to see the Nigthfall scene where Bane tears Batman to pieces and cast someone as Azarel.

Fresh Prince
09-23-2011, 12:50 PM
I say after the Nolan films based the new Batman films off of Batman new 52. Do the new Batman movies like what DC did with the new Batman 52.

Moviefan
09-26-2011, 11:07 AM
i wish they would use the new batman and new superman moive theactor like chrisitan bale for justice league moive. just use the newer actor im hope the new superman movie will be god. im not sure if Henry Cavill begood super -manthe pctuer are awesometoo. i have t owait to see the trailer. ido enjoy most of christphor revve super man movies i even enjoeed super- man 3 i know most people didn't likeit i enjoyed it then aging i liked superman returns a lot too.

if they were going to reboot the bat man i would get James Caviezel or guy price both are awesoem actors

Moviefan
09-26-2011, 11:16 AM
can't wait for dark night rises it going to rock:).

the elmo zombie
12-12-2011, 06:23 PM
I'd like to see a Batman film set in the prohibition era. Replace Capone with Penguin perhaps. I think that time would set a cool tone for a Batman film. Plus it would be a new direction.

jonk
12-14-2011, 06:14 AM
I'd like to see a Batman film set in the prohibition era. Replace Capone with Penguin perhaps. I think that time would set a cool tone for a Batman film. Plus it would be a new direction.

I think this is a cool idea, but not sure it would sell at the box office. Could see them doing this as an animated series.

If i'm honest, the only way i want to see them reboot the batman franchise in the next 5-10years is if they plan on setting up a JLA movie. Otherwise they should leave it alone for a while.

Tornado
12-24-2011, 09:35 AM
After thinking more about it, I'd love to see more Bat-films after the current trilogy is done and over. Do another trilogy, don't re-hash any of the villains, bring in Robin halfway through the second film (Tim Drake, no Dick Grayson or Jason Todd), etc. No reboot though! Completely unnecessary. Who doesn't understand Batman's origin by this point? Even if they don't know about his time traveling or his training, they know the basic premise - Bruce's parents died, and Bruce became Batman to avenge them and to fight crime in Gotham. Black Mask is a strong enough character that he could probably function as the primary villain in a Bat-film. I'd love to see Mr. Freeze handled in a way that mirrors what was accomplished in TAS, and I think the Penguin would be a lot of fun too. Deadshot would be good in a supporting role, Poison Ivy would be great if they wanted to go more outlandish with the story. Same story with Killer Croc.

Nick1988
12-24-2011, 12:24 PM
For the Reboot i would love to see Riddler, he would be what the Joker was in Nolans films, Poison Ivy,Mr.Freeze and Killer Croc , with a small role for Penguin.

And i agree i would like to see them incorporate Robin some how, but making it a serious film, i think any Director that could bring Robin in and make it serious and dark toned, but GOOD, and get rid of the whole notion that Robin can't be used in a serious take on Batman. I would give major props, and i think a lot of people in general would give him props for bringing in Robin and making it mature and serious.

Bourne 415 71
12-24-2011, 12:56 PM
Nolan has done 3 amazing films I don't know how many more he can push. Once you start losing actors the movies go down hill.

krushgroove19
12-24-2011, 03:01 PM
When a reboot happens, they should tackle it the same way Tim Burton did. Batman '89 isn't really an origin story at all. There is the flashback to his parents dying but it doesn't take up more than two or three minutes of the whole movie. It's still a great movie.

Nick1988
12-24-2011, 03:46 PM
I am sure they won't do another origin, or at least i hope they don't , WB seems alot smarter then Sony, who is rebooting a franchise that made a billion dollars and hade and origin story only 10 years removed

JBond
12-24-2011, 06:54 PM
No reboot though! Completely unnecessary. Who doesn't understand Batman's origin by this point? Even if they don't know about his time traveling or his training

What?

Neverending
12-26-2011, 01:35 AM
I still have my doubts that the series will be rebooted. We'll get a part 4.

Nick1988
12-26-2011, 11:51 AM
You mean set in the same world as Nolans movies? I don't know he seems to be pretty confident that he won't be doing a part 4....Maybe he could be a Producer, and keep Goyer and Nolans brother as the writers?

Tornado
12-26-2011, 02:37 PM
What?

Whoops! Ha, mental slip. Meant to say 'world traveling'

Tolkien
12-26-2011, 02:56 PM
Doctor who is two fourms over. ;)

JBond
12-26-2011, 08:14 PM
Whoops! Ha, mental slip. Meant to say 'world traveling'

No no, I think we're on to something. I'll get working on the script...

Deexan
12-29-2011, 08:54 AM
"Swear to me...Atilla!"

Neverending
02-02-2012, 03:15 AM
I think it's amusing that there's already an IMDb page for this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/

DarthVader 2004
02-02-2012, 11:41 AM
I don't think they need to do a reboot just have it as a couple years after the last movie.
I mean people get recasting for actors. Why not just make it a continuence. They could do a Riddler on going trilogy with maybe Ivy or Black Mask as side villains

Nick1988
02-03-2012, 11:19 AM
TDKR seems to be pretty obvious that it's the last movie in that world of Batman that Nolan has created. The vibe of this movie really seems to be setting it up to be the last one, I don't see how after this they go to a villain like Riddler, who is a major step down, same thing with Black Mask.

Wyldstaar
02-03-2012, 03:14 PM
Most directors don't want to pick up where some other film maker left off. They have their own vision for how the film should look, work and unfold.

I just hope WB chooses a new director who knows how to handle Gotham and its guardian with the respect they deserve.

Moviefan
02-27-2012, 02:15 AM
i wouldn't know who could play batman ifthey reboot it only peoplecome to mind
Jake Gyllenhaal
if they countie the serie with chriistian bale i would bring in robion iwould make him serieos not make him like batman and robion. i would use the riddler for the next vlillni would get johnny deep to play the riddler
for villian i would use:
peguin
killer crock
the riddler
mr frezze

morpheus1987
02-27-2012, 10:18 AM
I would prefer more of a Zack Snyder/Matthew Vaughn vibe to the next Batman franchise. I think it would be next to impossible to recreate the gritty world that Nolan has amassed. So maybe doing something slightly different would be the best course of action.

Neverending
02-27-2012, 11:39 AM
The best course of action is always to do something different. I wouldn't want 10 Nolan-esque films the same way that I wouldn't want 10 Burton-esque movies. 3 is enough. Let's move on to something else.

morpheus1987
02-27-2012, 11:45 AM
The best course of action is always to do something different. I wouldn't want 10 Nolan-esque films the same way that I wouldn't want 10 Burton-esque movies. 3 is enough. Let's move on to something else.

Completely agree. I like the notion of being able to see villains like Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, and Clayface.

Nick1988
02-27-2012, 01:01 PM
Just like fans wanted to see a proper incarnation of Two-Face and Bane, and we got that for Two face, even though he wasn't exactly a main villain , but still when he was on screen he was awesome.
And Bane, whether you like the direction they are going, this Bane already is ten times better then the abomination we saw in Batman and Robin.

Well now its time to see Mr.Freeze and Riddler done right, I hope in the next franchise they are used.

morpheus1987
02-27-2012, 01:17 PM
Well now its time to see Mr.Freeze and Riddler done right, I hope in the next franchise they are used.

Completely Agree. Although I would love to see what someone like Zach Snyder could do with Clayface. I also think Hush would be awesome, but I don't think that is likely at all.

sshuttari
04-09-2013, 02:44 PM
Great documentary with cast and crew of "Batman and Robin"

Really answers a lot of questions what the film had to go through to it's final installment

eTtuS8CbAxw#!

Wyldstaar
04-09-2013, 05:52 PM
Even if Arnold had turned down the role of Mr. Freeze and Joel had declined to direct Batman & Robin, the movie still would have been a complete disaster. The studio was bound and determined to make a two-hour toy commercial, and no amount of casting or directorial changes would have prevented it.

tubehead
04-23-2013, 02:48 AM
trying not to give much but batman didn't died

Fanible
04-23-2013, 04:02 PM
trying not to give much but batman didn't died

Point well made.