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Neverending
12-13-2010, 06:54 PM
Just watched the trailer and I have to admit that it's weird not seeing Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly. It feels more like an Adventures of Jack Sparrow spin-off than a sequel.

Deexan
12-13-2010, 07:03 PM
I also felt it was strange that their faces never popped up; I think I half hoped that they would at one point, then I reminded myself that they were the least interesting part of the sequels and I felt much better.

Neverending
12-13-2010, 07:16 PM
then I reminded myself that they were the least interesting part of the sequels and I felt much better.

Yes and No. Orlando Bloom was a good straight man for Johnny Depp and Keira Knightly served her purpose as the tough hot chick. They'll be tough to replace.

Deexan
12-13-2010, 07:24 PM
Well, any half-decent actor can do the straight man role as good as Bloom so I think that'll be the easiest part to improve upon; it may suffer from the lack of a dashing, noble heroic type though. As for beauty, give me Cruz over Knightley any day of the week.

ViRUs
12-13-2010, 08:28 PM
Eh, I would prefer Knightly myself, but Cruz still looks great, especially for her age.


I kind of agree with Neverending though. It doesnt look bad, it just didnt have the same feel to it.

Neverending
12-13-2010, 08:37 PM
give me Cruz over Knightley any day of the week

Based on the trailer, Cruz is playing a comedic role. So, she's not really replacing Knightly as the badass chick.

MovieBuff801
12-13-2010, 08:53 PM
I prefer Knightley's Elizabeth myself, but like it's been pointed out, Cruz is playing a different kind of character, so we'll see. But I agree that Cruz looks really good in the part nonetheless.

docstop
12-14-2010, 10:06 AM
Cruz looks like Knightley. Keep thinking this through the whole trailer. And yes, it does have a slight spin-off feeling to it.

DarthVader 2004
12-14-2010, 11:44 AM
Cruz Looks more female Pirate like then Knightley and likely is gonna be a bit odd considering her dad is William Teach.

Moviefan
12-16-2010, 09:00 PM
i heard if this movie does good they might make a jack sparro moive. i read it on the net somewere

Neverending
12-16-2010, 10:47 PM
So...these haven't been Jack Sparrow movies?

DarthVader 2004
12-16-2010, 11:02 PM
Yes but people were confused and assumed the movies were about Elizabeth. No i am certain Sparrow was always the main character and Barbossa second. I am sure the whole franchise was not so Elizabeth could finally get Married made love to and left on an island.

My understanding is that they may do 2 more but use the people in this as recurring Characters. I think Black Beard was meant to be the recurring Villian and the young man in this would be back as well.
I say this because Pirates is a house hold name now like HP and Batman. As long as Sparrow and Johnny Depp returns. They likely will make least 6 and then finally end it for good. Cause 6 seem like s good Saga number too me.

Plus Pirates is a good Job for Depp to go back to in order to express his obvious comedic ability.

Deexan
12-17-2010, 06:12 AM
I'm pretty sure this film is the 'Jack Sparrow movie' that was talked about just after AWE was released.

DarthVader 2004
12-17-2010, 07:51 AM
Well yeah for it was discribed as not really a sequel except for Barbossa and Jack of the other 2 film but neither a Prequel for take part after events with Davy Jones.

todd philip
01-10-2011, 04:15 PM
This seems like it will be more of a comedy then the rest, the 3rd one tried to be an epic like return of the king.

Neverending
01-19-2011, 11:12 PM
This seems like it will be more of a comedy then the rest

Without Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly playing the straight roles, that was expected. This is wall-to-wall Johnny Depp with no one to balance things out.

DarthVader 2004
01-24-2011, 12:58 PM
Theres The New Young Man and New Young Girl who is a mermaid i do believe. There is anchors to the team here. Also i think seems like Jack is less goofy and more like Jack in Pirates 1.

Ayemef
02-06-2011, 07:28 AM
I stopped watching after the first

just never could gain any interest in these films, and I love Depp

Sean B.
08-30-2012, 12:01 AM
Just watched the trailer and I have to admit that it's weird not seeing Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly. It feels more like an Adventures of Jack Sparrow spin-off than a sequel.
Piraes 4 is not a spin-off, it is a stand-alone film.