Superhero Overload in 2012?

[Neverending]

It's being reported that WB has scheduled the new Batman movie for July 20, 2012. That got me excited till I realized that The Avengers and Spider-Man 2.0 are also scheduled for 2012. So, in one year we're going to get movies featuring Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and Thor. Isn't that a bit...excessive?! People wonder when the superhero genre is gonna die. It might happen in 2012.

[Doomsday]

You know I was juuuuuuuuuuuuuust thinking this exact same thing today, weird. I think the whole comic book genre is getting watered down, and the good ones are going to have some of their thunder stolen from the masses of mediocre ones that are sure to be coming. Kinda like how when Gladiator came out, we were given King Arthur, Alexander, 300, etc. There will be some good ones, but again I think we're gonna get a wave of some that are better than others.

[IanTheCool]

Wow, this only strengthens my estimation that the new Spider Man is going to flounder.

[Neverending]

Sony should have just done Spider-Man 4 in 2011 with Sam Raimi. That would have had less risk of underperforming at the box office.

[Moviefan]

dont froget wolvrien 2 and their making new live action ninja turtles moive coming out in 2012.

[New GL of sector 2814]

So what, it's gonna be a good year in movies. With all these superhero flicks they are gonna bring out, maybe we can finally see the death of the worst movie genre of all time, the romantic comedy.

[Tornado]

The more the merrier.

[Neverending]

dont froget wolvrien 2 and their making new live action ninja turtles moive coming out in 2012.

I see those two moving to 2013 - unless Wolverine is released in June and TMNT in August. Even then, they're gonna be ridiculously over-shadowed.

[Tolkien]

Captain America is in 2011, not 2012. I doubt the next Batman movie will be in released in 2012 and we all know that Thor is scheduled for 2011 release.

[Tornado]

I take it you didn't see the big news, Tolk?

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65650

And nobody said Cap and Thor are coming out in 2012. Neverending said films featuring those characters are set for 2012; The Avengers, which is set to feature them, Iron Man, and the Hulk, is supposed to come out in 2012.

[Tolkien]

Well I did not see that Batman news. And now I get it. I thought he said the films would be out in 2011, not the characters themselves in the Avengers film.

[Neverending]

supposed to come out in 2012.

May 4th, to be exact. Spidey has a 4th of July weekend release date. So, the real competition is between Batman and Spider-Man since it's the same month.

[IanTheCool]

May 4th, to be exact. Spidey has a 4th of July weekend release date. So, the real competition is between Batman and Spider-Man since it's the same month.

And Spider man will get killed.

[Tornado]

Yeah.

[Neverending]

And Spider man will get killed.

I wouldn't say killed. There's a 3-week difference. However, it won't dominate the same way that the Sam Raimi movies did.

[Dracula]

2008 saw the release of Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Hellboy 2, The Dark Knight, Hancock, The Punisher: Warzone, and The Spirit.

Overload? Perhaps, but the genre seems to have survived it.

[Neverending]

2008 saw the release of Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Hellboy 2, The Dark Knight, Hancock, The Punisher: Warzone, and The Spirit.

Overload? Perhaps, but the genre seems to have survived it.

To be fair, most of those characters aren't in the same league.

Just getting Batman and Spider-Man in the same year is a big deal. Batman dominated in 1989 and 2008. Spider-Man dominated in 2002 and 2007. These are two heavyweights. It's like if you released a Star Wars and Indiana Jones movie in the same year. And now add Iron Man to the mix. 2012 is going to be a peak in the genre. No question about it.

[Moviefan]

Does any one know whos is goingto be the main vlillian for the new spider-man moive?

[IanTheCool]

Does any one know whos is goingto be the main vlillian for the new spider-man moive?

The Riddler

[Neverending]

Does any one know whos is goingto be the main vlillian for the new spider-man moive?

The Riddler

lol. But, seriously, all these movies are in their early stage. So, we don't know anything about the plot and villains.

[DarthVader 2004]

Ninja Turtles movies is a very cool thing if ask me. But isnt there gonna be The Man Of Steel Opening in 2012.

My figuring is comics need Avengers, Spider-Man and Batman if the Hobbit comes out in December for The Year of Middle Earths return is a big one whenever it is so why not get a good movie year comic wise as well.

Spider-Man reboot may flounder but maybe just maybe they will move and have a better showing not so close to Batman.

[DarthVader 2004]

I Think 2011 will be hard to beat if ask me for its fully loaded comic wise as well.

[MazzaRedd]

Plus all the supposed X-Men spin offs in the pipeline.

[Neverending]

Ninja Turtles movie is a very cool thing if ask me.

They announced it last year, but there's barely been any updates. So, their release date plans could change.

isnt there gonna be The Man Of Steel Opening in 2012.

A release date hasn't been confirmed.

comics need Avengers, Spider-Man and Batman if the Hobbit comes out in December

The Hobbit will be a hit, but it's difficult to tell if it'll dominate at the box office. ROTK is the only installment that beat the competition. The first movie was outgrossed by Harry Potter and the second by Spider-Man.

Spider-Man reboot may flounder but maybe just maybe they will move and have a better showing not so close to Batman.

They don't have much options. May has the Avengers. June isn't high profiled enough and the next Star Trek is supposed to be released in that month. And, August is too low-profile. SONY dropped the ball by not making Spider-Man 4 with Sam Raimi in 2011.

[DarthVader 2004]

Captain America is in 2011, not 2012. I doubt the next Batman movie will be in released in 2012 and we all know that Thor is scheduled for 2011 release.

They refer to them being in The Avengers movie i believe. Cap, Iron Man and Thor.

[DarthVader 2004]

They announced it last year, but there's barely been any updates. So, their release date plans could change.



A release date hasn't been confirmed.



The Hobbit will be a hit, but it's difficult to tell if it'll dominate at the box office. ROTK is the only installment that beat the competition. The first movie was outgrossed by Harry Potter and the second by Spider-Man.



They don't have much options. May has the Avengers. June isn't high profiled enough and the next Star Trek is supposed to be released in that month. And, August is too low-profile. SONY dropped the ball by not making Spider-Man 4 with Sam Raimi in 2011.
My few is substances sometimes is better then money. Harry Potter and Spiderman were good and all but feel LOTR FOTR was a better film and feel Ian McKellan was robbed an Oscar.

[sniktawt]

May 4th, to be exact. Spidey has a 4th of July weekend release date. So, the real competition is between Batman and Spider-Man since it's the same month.

And Spider man will get killed.

I wouldn't say killed. There's a 3-week difference. However, it won't dominate the same way that the Sam Raimi movies did.

I think it will do well, it won't get killed, it'll break 100 mill opening weekend. The Raimi franchise was stale as hell and very repetitive and Raimi and the cast with the exception of Franco phoned Part 3 in. It's time for change, it worked for the Bat franchise when Nolan revamped it. Plus it's Spidey, the kids will still eat it up. As long as Dunst is gone, I'm happy.

[Neverending]

it's Spidey, the kids will still eat it up.

That's the one advantage that Spider-Man has over Batman. It's more kid-friendly.

[Tolkien]

Yup, even if those kids are emo kids. lol.

[DarthVader 2004]

Well i suppose both could have big openings but i think Batman 3 could make more money. As long as they don't have the Threequel curse.

[Tornado]

Just for kicks, I compiled a list of all superhero big adaptations in 2011 and 2012:

2011: Captain America (July 22), Deadpool (no confirmed date), Green Lantern (July 17), Thor (May 6), X-Men: First Class (July 3)
2012: Ant-Man (apparently) (no confirmed date), The Avengers (May 4), Batman 3 (July 20), Spider-Man (July 3)

It's going to be an awesome pair of summers.

[donny]

We don't need to worry about 2012. The world is going to end by then.

[Tornado]

That's December. We'll have the summer before the world goes kablooey.

[Dracula]

We don't need to worry about 2012. The world is going to end by then.

I thought that nonsense wasn't supposed to kick in until December.

[donny]

Roland Emmerich makes all the calls. And word is, he changed the date.

Hell, he could end everything right n...

*BOOM*

[Neverending]

Deadpool (no confirmed date)

Unless they decide to recast Ryan Reynolds I think this movie isn't happening anytime soon.

[southern]

Aren't they making 2 Green Lanterns?


I wonder if Batman will do as well as TDK since there (hopefully) won't be so much publicity for the reason TDK had that much (Heath Ledger).

[DarthVader 2004]

I don't agree i think with Heath alive it still was well worth what it recieved because TDK was best film that year in my book.

[DarthVader 2004]

We don't need to worry about 2012. The world is going to end by then.

If you wish for a thing to happen then it usually does. But don't be too sad if the world is still turning just maybe life as we know them is different. Bare in mind we are basing this off of a civilization that died out a long time ago.

I say the world will end when Gods says it to but i don't think its 2012. I do however believe world could change for it happens but i think Man will be alive still for we are a young race yet.

[Dhamon22]

Just for kicks, I compiled a list of all superhero big adaptations in 2011 and 2012:

2011: Captain America (July 22), Deadpool (no confirmed date), Green Lantern (July 17), Thor (May 6), X-Men: First Class (July 3)
2012: Ant-Man (apparently) (no confirmed date), The Avengers (May 4), Batman 3 (July 20), Spider-Man (July 3)

It's going to be an awesome pair of summers.

Yeah I can't wait.

[Neverending]

I wonder if Batman will do as well as TDK

Very unlikely. If the Empire Strikes Back couldn't outgross Star Wars then there's no hope for Batman 3. $533 million is one of those rare things that only James Cameron can accomplish.

[DarthVader 2004]

Batman has a big audience and the ending in TDK sets up a 3rd movie well and i hope to maybe see Johnny Depp be a villain in the Third movie with Eckhart somehow back as Two Face.

[true fan11212]

Very unlikely. If the Empire Strikes Back couldn't outgross Star Wars then there's no hope for Batman 3. $533 million is one of those rare things that only James Cameron can accomplish.

Agreed. I don't think any franchise has ever produced consecutive $400+ million dollar films. Even Star Wars took 22 years - and three films - to do it.

[Neverending]

Batman has a big audience

Yeah, but $533 million is difficult to repeat. Batman 3 can gross $400 million and it still wouldn't be as successful. That's a $133 million difference.

[Dracula]

Very unlikely. If the Empire Strikes Back couldn't outgross Star Wars then there's no hope for Batman 3. $533 million is one of those rare things that only James Cameron can accomplish.

What are you talking about? LOTR: ROTK, POTC2, Shrek 2, and Transformers 2 all easily outgrossed their predecessors. It happens all the time in this franchise obsessed era.

[ViRUs]

i hope to maybe see Johnny Depp be a villain in the Third movie with Eckhart somehow back as Two Face.

You better not get your hopes too high. I dont see either of those happening.

[donny]

If you wish for a thing to happen then it usually does. But don't be too sad if the world is still turning just maybe life as we know them is different. Bare in mind we are basing this off of a civilization that died out a long time ago.

I say the world will end when Gods says it to but i don't think its 2012. I do however believe world could change for it happens but i think Man will be alive still for we are a young race yet.

....

Maybe I should of have warned ahead of time that I was joking.

[Moviefan]

thats not true now i hear the end of theworld is 2014. as long as we get to see the moive i wouldn't care.

[Wolverine]

You guys can add Kick Ass 2 Balls to the Wall to the 2012 Superhero Movie Trend as well.

[Tornado]

That's not confirmed.

[Neverending]

What are you talking about?

I'm talking about a movie that grossed $533 million at the domestic box office. Even with 3D and IMAX, I bet Batman 3 is not gonna gross anywhere near that.

[Deexan]

With 3D I could see it making around the same amount quite easily; add to that the fact that it may be filmed with IMAX cameras throughout and it's shaping up to be quite the experience. Plus, Nolan comes across as only wanting to make another sequel if there is a way of taking it to another level and improving upon TDK. So I think it's going to be something really special.

[Neverending]

With 2012 around the corner, I wonder how all this is gonna turn out. BTW, someone should move this to the superhero section.

[Nick1988]

I think The Dark Knight Rises will have a huge opening weekend, but i don't see it making it as much as The Dark Knight.

I personally feel that the new Spider-Man movie will under perform.

Avengers will be EPIC, but i am not sure it will be as huge as some people are predicting.

[Moviefan]

im big fan of spider-man i hope it does good i think the agnver anddark night will makae more money.i hope it does good. i love the Tobey Maguire spider-man movies

[Moviefan]

the new trailer looks awesome. i can't wait.

[docstop]

Avengers will be EPIC, but i am not sure it will be as huge as some people are predicting.

Agree with you on that. It will be amazing but... ya, not too sure how it will play out over the summer.

[Ramplate]

I rather like having all the super hero movies - now that technology has gotten good enough to present them properly (anyone remember the rope webs in the TV Spider-man show? lol)

[IanTheCool]

I agree with Ramplate. Also, with Avengers, I think what Whedon should do is accept that this movie should basically be the comic come to life and commit it to that. Have the heroes fighting their enemies on the streets in a bunch of crazy chaos. This is what Spiderman 2 did so well, especially with the train scene. It felt like the comic book action was simply leaping off the page.

[Ramplate]

I agree with Ramplate. Also, with Avengers, I think what Whedon should do is accept that this movie should basically be the comic come to life and commit it to that. Have the heroes fighting their enemies on the streets in a bunch of crazy chaos. This is what Spiderman 2 did so well, especially with the train scene. It felt like the comic book action was simply leaping off the page.

That's what I thought about the Train scene in SP-M 2
This is the comic book come to life at last.

[Wyldstaar]

I rather like having all the super hero movies - now that technology has gotten good enough to present them properly (anyone remember the rope webs in the TV Spider-man show? lol)

I remember the rope, and the terrible stock footage they used over and over of Spidey crawling up the wall of a skyscraper. I was only six or so when that show was on, and it was obvious to me that he was being hauled up the building by a rope. His hands weren't moving nearly fast enough for him to scale upwards that quickly.

I don't think there will ever be a "Superhero Overload." At this point, it's just another movie standard in a long line of them. Nobody ever asks if there are too many buddy cop movies coming out this year. Murder Mysteries, Courtroom dramas, romantic comedies, horror movies, westerns, spy thrillers, sword & sorcery, etc. They all have their highs and lows, but they always continue on every year. The superhero genre was all but ignored for most of the 20th Century in Hollywood. It's only right that they make up for lost time.

[Neverending]

Nobody ever asks if there are too many buddy cop movies coming out this year. Murder Mysteries, Courtroom dramas, romantic comedies, horror movies, westerns, spy thrillers, sword & sorcery, etc.

Most of those genres aren't being over-saturated or even receiving this level of marketing.

[Fanible]

That's what I thought about the Train scene in SP-M 2
This is the comic book come to life at last.

I liked the action during the train scene. It was one of the few moments from SM2 that I enjoyed, but felt it was ruined by the awkward stopping of the train (and McGuire's ridiculous face), and the wonderfully convenient car that just happened to contain all of the nicest and most trustful New Yorkers that day.

[Ramplate]

I liked the action during the train scene. It was one of the few moments from SM2 that I enjoyed, but felt it was ruined by the awkward stopping of the train (and McGuire's ridiculous face), and the wonderfully convenient car that just happened to contain all of the nicest and most trustful New Yorkers that day.

I thought some of the ways McGuire delivered some of his lines were rather silly - and yeah his facial expression is also kind of silly.
I think all those New Yorkers were just happy to still be alive :D Most New Yorkers will be nice to each other in a crisis (9/11/01).

[Fanible]

I think a lot of them would have had their cell phones out, at the very least by the end of it, and then afterwards contacted news stations with their footage and/or pics. ;)

Either way, it was still a super cheesy scene, them crowd surfing him into the train and then all surrounding him creepily, telling him they won't tell anyone... ugh. *shrugs*

[Nick1988]

^Yeah i never liked that scene after the fight in the train car, came across to cheesy.

[Neverending]

Spider-Man saved their lives. So, it would have been incredibly douchy for them to sell him out like that.

[Wyldstaar]

Spider-Man saved their lives. So, it would have been incredibly douchy for them to sell him out like that.

Sadly, the Good Samaritan laws are in place for a reason. If they weren't there, people really would sue their rescuers. A woman in California is being sued because a judge decided that a woman in a car crash wasn't in need of rescue by her friend. She was paralyzed in the crash, and has decided to sue her friend for pulling her from the wreck.

Within any given population, a certain level of douchbaggery is inevitable.

[Neverending]

Within any given population, a certain level of douchbaggery is inevitable.

Yeah, but Sam Raimi didn't want to focus on that. He didn't want his Spider-Man movie to be all dark and cynical like some Batman film.

[Fanible]

Spider-Man saved their lives. So, it would have been incredibly douchy for them to sell him out like that.

People are douchy. It's a fact of life.

Facts of life aside, it was just an extremely corny scene. I didn't particularly care for it, is all.

[Ramplate]

I can understand why.

[Nick1988]

People are douchy. It's a fact of life.

Facts of life aside, it was just an extremely corny scene. I didn't particularly care for it, is all.

Amen to that