X-Men: First Class

[Spirited Away]

20th Century Fox has hired "Gossip Girl" creator Josh Schwartz to write X-Men: First Class. He'd also been offered a chance to direct the film, but declined.

Schwartz, the creator and executive producer of The CW's hit as well as Fox's "The O.C." and NBC's "Chuck," is expected to inject a next-gen sensibility into the superhero series.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=50644

Schwartz is one of the best writers in Hollywood, so this is brilliant news. He will very easily be able to reach a balance between teen drama and mutant action.

I think one thing I like most about his writing is how the characters are never black or white, but always grey, yet you love them regardless. Gossip Girl, Chuck and The OC are the best series of their genres because of this: they have impeccable characterisations! On paper, audiences should HATE characters like Blair Waldorf, Serena Van Woodsen, Seth Cohen, Summer Roberts and both Chucks, but they don't. And this is purely because of Schwartz ability to make the audience care.

I say we should also expect McG's name to be attached to this somewhere at some point (he and Schwartz are partners on many projects, and also great friends), but I'm hoping it's only as an executive producer, and that Schwartz goes the extra mile and agrees to direct. If he can inject some much life into his writing, I'm sure he could do the same with directing.

Just use Gossip Girl and Chuck as testing ground!

[casablanca3]

and i just died a little inside

[Spirited Away]

Why's that?

[King_of_Skid_Row]

No :( .

[Kitty]

I thought it was bad with X-Men 3: The Last *****, now this? Your better off putting this in the time slot in between f**king Gossip Girl and 90210. Its like X-Men Evolution all over again but with new mutants and higher fashion

[Spirited Away]

I like X-Men: First Class, guess it's not to everyone's taste.

Some images:

http://toontalk.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/05/x-men-first-class-12-cover.jpg
http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2008/04/300px-X-MEN_FIRST_CLASS_007.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2294499648_9a33a78461.jpg

[rosncranz]

If this is more Gossip Girl and less Chuck this will be the worst thing in life.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

^Agreed.

[saveus1011]

Can we change Spirited Away's name to 'The Plant'?

[Spirited Away]

Can we change Spirited Away's name to 'The Plant'?
Stop being a dick, and back off.

[saveus1011]

Fox could come out with a movie that was a guy taking a crap for two hours and you'd say "Thisth is the most original film since Citizen Kane. I'm Spirited Away."

[Spirited Away]

Fox could come out with a movie that was a guy taking a crap for two hours and you'd say "Thisth is the most original film since Citizen Kane. I'm Spirited Away."
Where the heck are you getting this from?

If you knew anything about the comic (X-Men: First Class, which this film is based on), then you'd know Josh Schwartz is one of the best writers for the job, because he knows his comics, cult and pop culture back-to-front, and does amazingly well writing about teenagers FOR teenagers.

[Spirited Away]

THR copied Variety's article, and the Variety one was only [and wrongly] guessing what the film's about.

This is a prequel, hence the title "First Class" - it's about the very first class of students at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. So presumably Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast and Storm before they were X-Men, if they follow the existing movies.

[FranklinTard]

good that beast isn't blue yet... ill wait on the trailer.

[Spirited Away]

You just know FOX are going to call it "X-Men Origins: First Class" or some **** like that. I hate the name "First Class" as well, it sounds like an airline ticket.

To be honest, I'd prefer Schwartz to write a sequel to X3, and just use the existing minor cast and make them into the new X-Men team.

Why not do a X-Men/F4 cross-over film or something? It happens in the comics plenty of times, even in First Class.

[petergriffin246]

I like X-Men: First Class, guess it's not to everyone's taste.

Some images:

http://toontalk.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/05/x-men-first-class-12-cover.jpg
http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2008/04/300px-X-MEN_FIRST_CLASS_007.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2294499648_9a33a78461.jpg

God help us all

[saveus1011]

X3 was crap.

[Ewok Droppings]

I thought all the X-Men movies were crap.

[Spirited Away]

This is really just for us guys who used to follow The OC, I found this little gem earlier: NvIg3wn3eQE

[King_of_Skid_Row]

We can only hope it's as good as X2 or not crappy like X3.

[casablanca3]

Why's that?

im a hugeeeee x-men fan and i was hoping, just praying marvel would steal this back and make the x-men movie we all want to see but instead idiot rothman is giving us seth cohen as x-men haha, having to watch a 13 years of age angel and rogue makes me just so angry. i just really wanted to see the sentinels, gambit, real angel, etc...

[sshuttari]

So a CW teen drama version of X-Men...

Pass

[Spirited Away]

im a hugeeeee x-men fan and i was hoping, just praying marvel would steal this back and make the x-men movie we all want to see but instead idiot rothman is giving us seth cohen as x-men haha, having to watch a 13 years of age angel and rogue makes me just so angry. i just really wanted to see the sentinels, gambit, real angel, etc...
Surely the popularity of "First Class" justifies this film's existence?

[Art_of_crime]

could be worse.
At least its not the Fantastic Four.

[sshuttari]

could be worse.
At least its not the Fantastic Four.

Well we haven't seen it yet...

So it could be worse for all we know.

[Art_of_crime]

Well we haven't seen it yet...

So it could be worse for all we know.

it takes a lot to be worse than the craptastic four.
But yeah I suppose if they really tried they could be worse.

[Kitty]

You just know FOX are going to call it "X-Men Origins: First Class" or some **** like that. I hate the name "First Class" as well, it sounds like an airline ticket.

To be honest, I'd prefer Schwartz to write a sequel to X3, and just use the existing minor cast and make them into the new X-Men team.

Why not do a X-Men/F4 cross-over film or something? It happens in the comics plenty of times, even in First Class.

I don't see the purpose of doing a 'first class' x-men now after these three films. It would've made more sense to me if they had done it right away as the first film. Its like being able to better establish what are percieved throughout the 3 movies as decent but mainly two sided characters into whole persons. Now its just like f***ing a dead horse repeatedly.

The only way I can see some form of a 'crossover' is just via Avengers and Justice League. Anything else (especially with the x-men) includes too many characters that would include one huge cluster f***, and we all know how that was with just the mutants alone in X-3.

[Spirited Away]

So whatever. You can have your Gossip Girl lol. I was just laughing that someone who considers Chuck and Gossip Girl to be quality work has the brass to call Kitty out on her preferences.
I'm now certain none of you have read First Class, let alone seen an issue.

'X-Men: First Class' is the popular re-imaging of the X-Men storyline, but unlike Ultimate X-Men, this series is (A) set in another universe, (B) about the very first students at Xavier's School, (C) focused on the characters' friendships NOT costumes, and (D) pop-culture infested.

Really, it's the Smallville equivalent to the X-Men, and set to permanently replace Ultimate Marvel in February. Now aside from the above, here's why I strongly feel Schwartz on-board as writer is the best decision they could have made.

His writing is always character driven. The OC was always about the relationships between Ryan, the Cohens, and the rest of the neighbourhood. Chuck is driven by the title character's fumbling nature, and Gossip Girl is based entirely on the concept of "frenemies", where your best friend is also your enemy. First Class is exactly the same, about these 5 mutants who have lived their own private lives, struggling to open up to one another and overcome their social barriers.

Schwartz also knows his comics, movies, music and fashion inside out. He's good at making it all blend well with the writing. That's why he was the youngest showrunner in television history. Considering First Class is so heavily laden with all four elements, that's why Schwartz is an ideal candidate in my opinion, and why he was chosen.

[petergriffin246]

is that supposed to make me feel better?

[WuTical]

They need to make Magneto first.

[unity768]

Schwartz has superb writing skills..if anybody would actually sit down and listen to the witty dialogue in The OC you'd see why but people wont be able to look past the teen soap stereotype.

[rosncranz]

Some of the OC had good dialogue but the writing i.e. plots, storylines etc. were horrible. Gossip Girl is just disgusting teenage crap with mediocre writing. Chuck is a fun show but nothing more. The point is that everything he does is very surface level, it's all showy and no depth and the OC has some of the worst plotting I have ever seen in television. Which sounds like X-Men first class is right up his alley because it sounds like crappy teen "drama" too. Put all of this together and you have a potentially huge piece of ****. I do reserve total judgment until I see footage as usual, but it has an up hill battle in front of it.

[Spirited Away]

It might be a huge piece of ****, but First Class is one of the very few comics keeping Marvel afloat.

[DragnFire22]

They need to make Magneto first.

Huzzah!

[Spirited Away]

Magneto already has its script and director ready to go, so it's really all based on Wolverine's returns.

[Spirited Away]

In the comic, the First Class is Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman and Angel. The last two are obviously not going to happen, so I predict the new line-up will be: Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Beast and Bishop.

I've said Bishop because he's a cool character, and his recklessness can be played upon quite easily, especially between him and Cyclops.

FOX already cast Tim Pocock to play young Cyclops in Wolverine, so I guess it's a fair assumption he'll be leading First Class if it gets made:

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Tim%20Pocock.jpg

[DragnFire22]

Magneto already has its script and director ready to go, so it's really all based on Wolverine's returns.

Yeah, a script by David Goyer, with him at the helm. Not exactly a promising formula.

[Spirited Away]

Yeah, a script by David Goyer, with him at the helm. Not exactly a promising formula.
The Dark Knight was obviously a good script, and The Unborn looks okay, but yeah. He really is hit or miss.

I think First Class should be made before Magneto, because it's a natural follow-up to Wolverine. Magneto is a side-track imo.

[saveus1011]

The Dark Knight was obviously a good script, and The Unborn looks okay, but yeah. He really is hit or miss.

He didn't write the script for The Dark Knight, the Nolan's did.

[Spirited Away]

He didn't write the script for The Dark Knight, the Nolan's did.
He co-created the storyline with Christopher Nolan, and the only reason he isn't credited as a writer is because of WGA regulations.

[rosncranz]

He co-created the storyline with Christopher Nolan, and the only reason he isn't credited as a writer is because of WGA regulations.

Goyer has done nothing but crap, it's a fair assumption that his "work" on the Batman films was minimal.

Also Magneto is and always has been a far better idea than a Wolverine or First Class film. And you are making a hell a lot of assumptions about where the series is going, I mean Bishop...really? Maybe you should wait till there is more news before you make so many assumptions about what they are doing.

[DragnFire22]

He co-created the storyline with Christopher Nolan, and the only reason he isn't credited as a writer is because of WGA regulations.

So, you are giving him credit because he may or may not have contributed to the story idea "Batman vs. the Joker"? Goyer's script-writing track record speaks for itself: The Blade Trilogy and Jumper? Thanks, but no thanks. And as a director he has given us Blade Trinity and The Invisible, both very different from what a Magneto film should be.

[Knerys]

Blade and Blade II were good, imo. Blade Trinity was ok but suffered from gimmicky writing and often cheesey dialog- plus an unenthusiastic lead.

Jumper was promising but a wimpy skeleton of a story.

That being said....I think Goyer has some decent story ideas but I'm not all that impressed with his writing ability as a whole. Not all that impressed with his directing yet either.


As for this.......it's becoming reinventing, rebooting, reimagining overload. If you are going to redo something, redo something the hasn't been redone already.

[DragnFire22]

Blade and Blade II were good, imo. Blade Trinity was ok but suffered from gimmicky writing and often cheesey dialog- plus an unenthusiastic lead.

Jumper was promising but a wimpy skeleton of a story.

That being said....I think Goyer has some decent story ideas but I'm not all that impressed with his writing ability as a whole. Not all that impressed with his directing yet either.


As for this.......it's becoming reinventing, rebooting, reimagining overload. If you are going to redo something, redo something the hasn't been redone already.

Speaking strictly from a script point of view, Blade and Blade 2 were nothing to laud.

[saveus1011]

He co-created the storyline with Christopher Nolan, and the only reason he isn't credited as a writer is because of WGA regulations.

He was given a story credit only. That's all he wrote.

[Kitty]

Oh yeah, I was supposed to bring something in here...

...hurm....

...yeah. I remember now. This writer's a hack and this movie will blow hard if his OC writing is any sort of an example.

[Knerys]

Speaking strictly from a script point of view, Blade and Blade 2 were nothing to laud.

Well Blade has been credited with saving the comic-to-film adaptation. Their respective scripts served their purpose.

[Spirited Away]

Who should play the new Jean Grey?

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6663/famke1cg1.jpg
- Famke Janssen -

Haley Ramm played her in X3, so I guess the wisest thing would be to keep it that way, as Ramm is a rising star and more than capable of reprising the role with more action (I saw her in Ben 10).

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/568/croppedblackdd9.jpg
- Haley Ramm -

But I think MTV mentioned casting Leighton Meester, which would be ideal if they properly adapted the source material, but given X3's flashbacks and Jean Grey's bland persona in the films, they probably won't.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3305/00000418192007080114500av6.jpg
- Leighton Meester -

Agree? Disagree? Add to the list!

[Kitty]

They look the same (except the fake curls) to be honest. I've seen Meester on Entourage a few times, I guess she could be ok. But ugh, it just screams teen wannabe soap if you throw her in with that writer.

I want Watchmen to come out.

[saveus1011]

Watchmen > First Class

[Felix Leiter]

Depending on how young they wanna go Danielle Panabaker might be good for Jean.
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Danielle-Panabaker-sh02.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1263939/

Anyways, this movie will probably suck.

[DAN!]

she looks like a good choice

[Spirited Away]

I want Watchmen to come out.
Watchmen > First Class
So do I, but how does that relate to X-Men?

[sabin26]

Is this what is becoming to the whole X-Men Franchise? Seriously, let's leave it alone unless they are going to do separate character movies (Wolverine, Gambit would be nice, Magneto). There is no need to make a stupid tween soap opera movie about the X-Men. That's not why I read it in the first place. After what Ratner did...there doesn't need to be anything X-Men.

[DragnFire22]

Have you read First Class?

[Knerys]

Ok Ratner did not destroy X-Men.

Yes is wasn't in line with the first two and yes he took a few too many liberties, but he didn't kill the frachise a la Spiderman 3.

X3 was a disappointment, not a disaster.

[saveus1011]

Ok Ratner did not destroy X-Men.

Yes is wasn't in line with the first two and yes he took a few too many liberties, but he didn't kill the frachise a la Spiderman 3.

X3 was a disappointment, not a disaster.

Expect a phone call from me later. ;)

[Knerys]

Remind me not to answer my phone today ;p

[DAN!]

Ok Ratner did not destroy X-Men.

Yes is wasn't in line with the first two and yes he took a few too many liberties, but he didn't kill the frachise a la Spiderman 3.

X3 was a disappointment, not a disaster.
yup

[saveus1011]

Remind me not to answer my phone today ;p

I'm not the one you need to worry about. ;)

[DragnFire22]

Ok Ratner did not destroy X-Men.

Yes is wasn't in line with the first two and yes he took a few too many liberties, but he didn't kill the frachise a la Spiderman 3.

X3 was a disappointment, not a disaster.

Explain to me how SM3 killed the franchise, but X3 didn't.

[Spirited Away]

Neither killed either franchise: X3 may be a crap-fest, but its box office proved otherwise, as it is the highest grossing X-Men film to date ($460M). Similarly, SM3 is the biggest of its three films, with $890M in box office.

[Spirited Away]

Casting Storm

Obviously whoever they've got playing her in Wolverine is WAY too young, so it'll be someone new (if she's even in First Class).

Now my knowledge on up-and-coming black and mixed-race actresses is absolutely abysmal, so don't judge me:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7687/820863987lih3.jpg
- Keke Palmer -

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/521/cassie01lj2.jpg
- Cassie -

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3968/rihannaclosegbscw580039ej0.jpg
- Rihanna -

It's not like any of these three could do a worser job than Halle Berry, so why not just cast on looks.

[Kitty]

X-Men 3 was a MAJOR disappointment, and I guess you could say Ratner isn't all to blame for being thrown on there a couple of said weeks before actual filming took place. Then again, he's a complete studio gimp who bends over backwards. In the end he was there for the green, not really being completely into the project at all as he has stated previously with his half assed attempts at trying to save face in front of people who ask him questions about the actual film. Ugh, I loathe that man.

It's not like any of these three could do a worser job than Halle Berry, so why not just cast on looks.

Spirited, I hope that you never are a casting director. Ever.

[DAN!]

i liked halle berry as storm.


i liked the x-men movies, but they each had different problems. I liked singer a lot, but he pretty much trashed cyclops' character. though i did like X1 and really liked X2. X3 was ok, but it was too short.

but i am not huge with the comics, so that is probably why i am so much nicer to the movies. But i never liked the spiderman movies much at all. I wanted a real bad ass villian in those movies that i could really hate and want to be taken down. all their villain could play the sympathy card.

[Kitty]

I won't start with x-men 3's problems because if I do I won't be done until 3 in the morning (my time).

That is one of the things I hated the most from the whole x-men franchise was how cyclops was portrayed. Just some one sided b**ch who happened to be engaged to Jean, it really pissed me off especially as they went further onto the Dark Phoenix saga (or if you wanna call it that with x-3). Wolverine has been so incredibly overused throughout these three movies, the entire Rogue/Iceman relationship bothered me and the guy who played Iceman was a whiny bastard, completely different personality than who he was in the comics. I could go on and on about the flaws that are in the franchise overall or in each movie but again...that'll take forever to explain.

Overall even though these movies have their flaws, I do like the two of them. There still are some strong points from them, some characters they did get right down to the t (like Nightcrawler) and their world really became a three dimensional work that was believable despite their powers.

There is no x-men 3 btw, f*** that movie. Urgh.

[saveus1011]

It's not like any of these three could do a worser job than Halle Berry, so why not just cast on looks.

:lol:

How did you get a job working in or near film?

[bbf2]

Ok Ratner did not destroy X-Men.

Yes is wasn't in line with the first two and yes he took a few too many liberties, but he didn't kill the frachise a la Spiderman 3.

X3 was a disappointment, not a disaster.

I agree with this, if only because the problems with X3 were mainly because of comics stuff. (Killing off all those characters, the weird power removal storyline)

To the average fan who didn't know much about comics, there was nothing wrong with X3. Whereas Spider-Man 3 was considered terrible because of reasons anyone can see (too many plotlines, terrible scenes like the omlette making, the stupid deus ex machina butler, and of course the emo street-dancing Spider-Man) and became a national joke. Now all future Spider-Man movies will be tainted with the knowledge of the crappy Spider-Man 3 stuff whereas X3 won't really affect people going into future X-Men movies.

[rosncranz]

Nobody has given real reason for saying X3 is so terrible. Flawed and disappointing I can agree with, but saying that it is complete garbage is a bit much. I grew up on the comics and know just as much about the X-Men as all the fans that hated the film so it is not indifference or ignorance either.

Kitty, please let me know what was so horrible about, I am honestly curious and not being patronizing.

[DAN!]

it was too short for one thing. Angel's character was a complete waste. he was only in a couple scenes. cyclopes character was killed off too quick. Xavior did nothing. the juggernaut sucked.

and the final battle should have included more characters. the F/X were not special, even though they had a good team.

The whole movie was just sloppy. It had a terrible build up. The movie was supposed to be building up to this really great fight. Neither the build up or the fight were any good. They were very underwelming.

The movie can be looked at as garbage, because X2 was so much better. X2 had a lot of good things going for it, despite its flaws. X3 pretty much had only flaws. the only bright spot in X3 was beast. X3 just wasn't good. Especially when you compare it to X2.

[Kitty]

One of the things that pissed me off the greatest was the overall approach to the Dark Phoenix storyline that actually was neatly builded up at the end of x-2. They finally shoved goddamn Wolvie's story to the side (for the most part) to make way for the next section that obviously looked promising.

Cyclops being shoved to the side and done off was contributed to a couple of things, one I immediately recall is that the filming was intertwined with the filming for Superman Returns. Another was just the story in general, they just killed him for no real reason other than to shove one character out of the way for fifty bajillion more with the Morlocks. Cyclops is obviously a vital character from the saga and for the people who've read that story it would immediately throw them off.

The Phoenix overall ended up becoming this minion that just sat on the side most of the times staring blankly out into nothing, being made into a puppet for Magneto for a portion of the time which really pissed me off. Dark Phoenix is that entity that goes into Jean and basically is like 'don't f*** with me, I'll eat your planet' and here throughout the majority of the movie she's just this flimsy gimp. Oh look at me, I'm going to try to lift up an island.

Don't get me started with Kitty Pryde and the whole love triangle thing. Same goes with Prof X, seriously the death scene was one of the most puzzling and just unnecessary scenes in this movie to me.

One last thing that irritated me greatly was the Morlocks, Juggernaut and Angel. All three of them literally were just there to show off more mutants. I guess it was just to attract people to show them 'hey look, there's some dude who's a porcupine! lets go watch that!'. Morlocks are an underground civilization of grotesque outcast mutants (instead of the wannabe punk rockers) who don't take orders from everyone, and here they are letting Magneto lead a game of Simon Says. Juggernaut was there just to show another cool mutant that can crunch up stuff. I hate that Ratner (yes, this part is on him) actually was the one who suggested to put the f**king youtube line in there. Angel was a total buzz kill for me, its like goddamnit he's one of the original five and all we get is him trying to rip off his wings, see him staring out of a window for five seconds and then he saves his dad, the end. He's a great character but again, just thrown in there to attract more people to see this movie.


Sorry about this being long winded. In actuality though, this is nothing compared to how I get if you cross me with someone who think x-3 is the best of this series (sadly I have a friend who thinks that). Oh and yes, I actually have sat down and watched this movie from start to finish, so this isn't assumptions on how I thought it was either.

[DVDAVE]

I'll pass on this it looks like a teeny bop X-men. I know I havnt read it but I don't even care too. I am a huge comic buff but I dont like the teeny ****. Not for me.

[bbf2]

I like your casting, Spirited Away, especially Rihanna as Storm.
I have some other suggestions.

Cyclops: Zac Efron

http://blog.seedgiveslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/zac-efron-400ds0814.jpg

Jean Grey: Miley Cyrus
http://www.usmagazine.com/files/miley-cyrus-b_0.jpg

Beast: McLovin
http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/08/02/27_mclovin_lgl.jpg

[Spirited Away]

I said I was purely going on looks, why take the piss?

[Spirited Away]

:lol: How did you get a job working in or near film?
By not being a condescending arsehole.

[DAN!]

id rather go with talent over looks, but that is just me. hollywood likes the looks better. evil city i tell ya!

By not being a condescending arsehole.

to be fair, it was condescending when you told some that they had their terminology wrong about exec producer when in fact, you were the one that had the mix up. just sayin though.

[Spirited Away]

to be fair, it was condescending when you told some that they had their terminology wrong about exec producer when in fact, you were the one that had the mix up. just sayin though.
No I wasn't wrong. I am 100% correct about the EP business. I wouldn't get £40K a year if I wasn't, or working on some of the coolest projects around.

[halo7]

No I wasn't wrong. I am 100% correct about the EP business. I wouldn't get £40K a year if I wasn't, or working on some of the coolest projects around.

I will believe you make that kind of money on "cool projects" when you stop replying to posts like a 14 year old comic and anime fanboy.

[DAN!]

No I wasn't wrong. I am 100% correct about the EP business. I wouldn't get £40K a year if I wasn't, or working on some of the coolest projects around.

I have worked on many projects as well, and i would bet a lot that i have had more success than you. i have taken people off the street and turned them into stars.



but look it up. producer trumps exec producer by what the terminology says on the wikipedia crap you referenced to.

[rosncranz]

One of the things that pissed me off the greatest was the overall approach to the Dark Phoenix storyline that actually was neatly builded up at the end of x-2. They finally shoved goddamn Wolvie's story to the side (for the most part) to make way for the next section that obviously looked promising.

Cyclops being shoved to the side and done off was contributed to a couple of things, one I immediately recall is that the filming was intertwined with the filming for Superman Returns. Another was just the story in general, they just killed him for no real reason other than to shove one character out of the way for fifty bajillion more with the Morlocks. Cyclops is obviously a vital character from the saga and for the people who've read that story it would immediately throw them off.

The Phoenix overall ended up becoming this minion that just sat on the side most of the times staring blankly out into nothing, being made into a puppet for Magneto for a portion of the time which really pissed me off. Dark Phoenix is that entity that goes into Jean and basically is like 'don't f*** with me, I'll eat your planet' and here throughout the majority of the movie she's just this flimsy gimp. Oh look at me, I'm going to try to lift up an island.

Don't get me started with Kitty Pryde and the whole love triangle thing. Same goes with Prof X, seriously the death scene was one of the most puzzling and just unnecessary scenes in this movie to me.

One last thing that irritated me greatly was the Morlocks, Juggernaut and Angel. All three of them literally were just there to show off more mutants. I guess it was just to attract people to show them 'hey look, there's some dude who's a porcupine! lets go watch that!'. Morlocks are an underground civilization of grotesque outcast mutants (instead of the wannabe punk rockers) who don't take orders from everyone, and here they are letting Magneto lead a game of Simon Says. Juggernaut was there just to show another cool mutant that can crunch up stuff. I hate that Ratner (yes, this part is on him) actually was the one who suggested to put the f**king youtube line in there. Angel was a total buzz kill for me, its like goddamnit he's one of the original five and all we get is him trying to rip off his wings, see him staring out of a window for five seconds and then he saves his dad, the end. He's a great character but again, just thrown in there to attract more people to see this movie.


Sorry about this being long winded. In actuality though, this is nothing compared to how I get if you cross me with someone who think x-3 is the best of this series (sadly I have a friend who thinks that). Oh and yes, I actually have sat down and watched this movie from start to finish, so this isn't assumptions on how I thought it was either.


See I don't really disagree with any of this, but these are almost all things that are atributable to the X-Men film universe and is not because of Ratner. The triangle of Rogue, Iceman, and Kitty was actually kind of enjoyable to me, it would make sense for Iceman's character. The problems with this are not Ratner but the fact that for some reason Singer made Iceman and Rogue younger, and the romance between them doesn't make sense to begin with which is again Singer's fault.

Focusing on Wolverine is certainly my biggest complaint with the movies, but this is again Singer's fault. Also Cyclops was handled very poorly in X3, but he was handled very poorly in X2, and his death was solely because of Marsden's filming Superman at the same time. If you look at Wolverine's character toward Phoenix in the film you see that he was actually a combination of Wolverine and Cyclops' parts which they had to do because of Marsden, which again is pretty much of out Ratner's hands.

The Morlocks were never really very big characters and were from what I remember a lot like they were portrayed in the movie, though them blindly leading Magneto I don't know, but that sounds kinda like nitpicking to me. Angel and Juggernaut did suck, you are right and that is largely Ratner's fault I agree.

The main problem I have with people who say X3 sucks, is that for one really isn't true IMO, and that it is not Ratner's fault. Singer had created a lot of problems with how he was doing things and where he was taking characters. Not Ratner's fault, almost any director would have done just as bad if not worse in his position. And the film really isn't all that bad, it just has the flaws with the story structure compounding on it.

[Spirited Away]

but look it up. producer trumps exec producer by what the terminology says on the wikipedia crap you referenced to.
A producer only trumps an EP if the producer is an EP themselves, credited or uncredited. (And I didn't reference Wikipedia, thank you.)

[DAN!]

according to wiki

Producer: the individual who has the greatest involvement and oversight among a film's various producers. In smaller companies or independent projects, may be the equivalent of the executive producer.

[Kitty]

I'm not ripping on Ratner, I am ripping on the story for X-Men 3 and how much of an overall cluster f**k it is. Yes, there are some flaws that sustained throughout the series. The story waspoorly put together, written out like a 13 year old would write a fanfic story to cram in as many characters as possible just because. Rather wasn't the wisest choice I must admit but again I an not putting sole blame on X3 on him.

[Spirited Away]

according to wiki

Producer: the individual who has the greatest involvement and oversight among a film's various producers. In smaller companies or independent projects, may be the equivalent of the executive producer.
The problem I have with Wiki articles on filmmaking are they're basic, and don't really grasp anything in much depth or clarity. Even for simple things like breaking down screenplays into budget sheets, it's useless. I just stick with trusted resources (Variety, THR, S&S) and books/journals.

But that summary is actually pretty spot-on imo. The producer is definitely the one most involved in a project out of all the producers (EP, co-producers, associates, line, consultant, etc.), as it should be.

To me, what separates the Producer from every other type of producer is they are both creatively and technically involved, bridging both parts together. Everyone else is either/or.

[Spirited Away]

I'm not ripping on Ratner, I am ripping on the story for X-Men 3 and how much of an overall cluster f**k it is. Yes, there are some flaws that sustained throughout the series. The story waspoorly put together, written out like a 13 year old would write a fanfic story to cram in as many characters as possible just because. Rather wasn't the wisest choice I must admit but again I an not putting sole blame on X3 on him.
X3 was a mess before The Rat climbed on-board.

The mistake was FOX and the producers didn't want to acknowledge this, and instead of hiring a director who would have worked their damn hardest to improve the film, they hired Ratner, who probably couldn't care less about the quality of pre-production. He's a competent director, but that's about it.

He's only as good as the work given to him, not better.

[DAN!]

if he is only as good as the work given to him, he is nothing special.

[Spirited Away]

id rather go with talent over looks, but that is just me. hollywood likes the looks better. evil city i tell ya!
I've done some Googling ("storm x-men first class"), and Rihanna pops up alot, and I now think if they were going to do stunt casting, she'd be a pretty good choice. I have no idea about her acting ability but she definitely looks the part.

Storm:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7045/2431011825stormsuperyo6.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2072/xmenstormtimelineskt2.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7928/storm2zc4.jpg

Rihanna:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/1986/rihanna18df9.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5648/rihanna5100840nx7.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7065/rihannaamasrihanna28993hk7.jpg

Well, I think so. If you disagree, why not show me I'm wrong with a better suggestion?

[DAN!]

i would like Faune Chambers. she is quite talented and has the physique to play an action role. and she looks like the part.

but talent is more important than looks. i don't care if the actor looks identical to storm. if they cant act, then i wont like them.

[Spirited Away]

if he is only as good as the work given to him, he is nothing special.
Agreed. I've yet to find a Brett Ratner film worth my time as a moviegoer (forget about fanboy). I believe he's only got to where he is because he plays it safe, and does whatever the studio wants him to. And like a TV director, he is purely a hired hand, and not actively involved. It's because of the writers, producers and casting directors that films like Rush Hour are successful, not the directing. Evident by the third film, where they gave Ratner control... :nono:

If I was Rothman, I wouldn't have bothered with Wolverine, and just rebooted the series from scratch. "First Class" would be the starting point. Get the characters right from the start: Angel, Iceman and Beast from the beginning, Jean Grey would have a personality, and Cyclops would have balls. The Professor would be younger. Revamp his personality a bit, make him a bit more malevolent (I find he's too "perfect" and "benevolent" for my liking).

No Wolverine, at least not to begin with. He'd definitely never overshadow Cyclops, instead they would develop a brother-like relationship (Cyclops admires Wolverine's free spirited nature, Cyclops envies the safe and secure life Cyclops has). And Storm would be from Africa, possibly an anti-hero they have to face against.

[Spirited Away]

i would like Faune Chambers. she is quite talented and has the physique to play an action role. and she looks like the part. but talent is more important than looks. i don't care if the actor looks identical to storm. if they cant act, then i wont like them.
She would have been a perfect Storm (pun intended) back in '99. But at 32, she's a bit too old for First Class.

[DAN!]

not really. most people who play younger roles are 5-10 years older than their character. the guy that played cameron (a 17 year old) was 32 when he played cameron in Ferris Buller.

[Kitty]

X3 was a mess before The Rat climbed on-board.

The mistake was FOX and the producers didn't want to acknowledge this, and instead of hiring a director who would have worked their damn hardest to improve the film, they hired Ratner, who probably couldn't care less about the quality of pre-production. He's a competent director, but that's about it.

He's only as good as the work given to him, not better.

Ok, AGAIN, Ratner is a bad director but I dont think he is the sole reason for X-Men 3 being a crapfest. I swear, did you even read what I was talking about, the part just on the story and how that wasn't on Ratner?

Btw, even if you gave him more time to better develop it he might end up on his cell a portion of the time half ass directing like he did in Rush Hour 3

[DAN!]

haha, RH3... that movie was the worst movie i saw that year. i liked the first one on average, the 2nd one sucked, and the third one i cannot believe was actually put on screen.

[Spirited Away]

Hypothetically, First Class would be set soon after Wolverine ends, so I doubt they'll include Storm, as she's a baby compared to the rest of them:

http://i36.tinypic.com/1410avc.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/346qfl4.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5611/timpocockjs2.jpg

[rosncranz]

What do those pictures have to do with anything?

Also I like all three Rush Hour films, granted the 3rd is not that great. They are not poorly made. They are clearly competently made, people who say ho w horrible they are are just people who don't like mainstream films, which for the record doesn't mean bad films. It really annoys me when people are all about good filmmaking, and only watch "serious" films, and don't acknowledge that movies can be fun and can be well made.

[DAN!]

these pics speak the future.

buit to understand it, you have to press "alt" and "F4" on your keyboard at the same time ;)

[saveus1011]

The mistake was FOX and the producers didn't want to acknowledge this, and instead of hiring a director who would have worked their damn hardest to improve the film, they hired Ratner, who probably couldn't care less about the quality of pre-production. He's a competent director, but that's about it.

He's only as good as the work given to him, not better.

:lol:

They rushed production to compete with Singer's Superman. Unfortunately both films were crap.

[Kitty]

What do those pictures have to do with anything?

Also I like all three Rush Hour films, granted the 3rd is not that great. They are not poorly made. They are clearly competently made, people who say ho w horrible they are are just people who don't like mainstream films, which for the record doesn't mean bad films. It really annoys me when people are all about good filmmaking, and only watch "serious" films, and don't acknowledge that movies can be fun and can be well made.

It was an assumption on more time filming the third xmen by how he treated his time filming on the third one. Please will you stop with stereotyping people who liked or disliked one film? All because I didn't like Rush Hour 3 didn't mean I dont like the other ones and am an ultra film snob that people like Spirited think. I'm sorry, that just p.o.ed me.

[rosncranz]

Please will you stop with stereotyping people who liked or disliked one film?

You need to realize that just because someone says something about people who share your opinion, it does not mean they are talking about you.

I am not stereotyping people based on whether or not they like one film. I said people who bash an entire type of film and ones that are competently made, doing so only because it is not their taste. They are film snobs. Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2 are quite well made.

[DAN!]

i think it was implied though.

and imo rush hour 2 and 3 were not good at all. they were not good and they were not fun, and i think most people felt that way. the critics and the people diliked it and it bombed in the boxoffice

and i am not someone who only watches serious movies. i like the comedies the most.

here is my top ten for 2008:

1) Tropic Thunder 10/10
2) Pineapple Express 10/10
3) Recount- 9.5/10
4) Charlie Bartlett- 9/10
5) Swing Vote 9/10
6) Definitely, Maybe- 8.5/10
7) Forgetting Sarah Marshall- 8.5/10
8) harold and kumar- 8.5/10
9) Meet Bill 8.5/10
10) Dark Knight 8.5/10


those are hardly "serious" movies. most people didn't like RH3 cause it sucked. it was a bomb at the box office.

[rosncranz]

i think it was implied though.

and imo rush hour 2 and 3 were not good at all. they were not good and they were not fun, and i think most people felt that way. the critics and the people diliked it and it bombed in the boxoffice

and i am not someone who only watches serious movies. i like the comedies the most.

here is my top ten for 2008:

1) Tropic Thunder 10/10
2) Pineapple Express 10/10
3) Recount- 9.5/10
4) Charlie Bartlett- 9/10
5) Swing Vote 9/10
6) Definitely, Maybe- 8.5/10
7) Forgetting Sarah Marshall- 8.5/10
8) harold and kumar- 8.5/10
9) Meet Bill 8.5/10
10) Dark Knight 8.5/10


those are hardly "serious" movies. most people didn't like RH3 cause it sucked. it was a bomb at the box office.


Notice I left part 3 out of most of what I was saying because that one is obviously flawed. However I am not so sure about the general consensus being that part 2 sucked, I am not saying you are wrong for sure but most people I know rather liked it and it is better than part 1 in my opinion.

Also, there is a difference between implication and assumption. I was not saying people who watch one movie and don't like it are film snobs, and I was not referring to Kitty. Also I was speaking about people blaming Ratner for X3 being bad, which in many ways was not his fault. Which I believe I already mentioned, which means I was not talking about Kitty.

Also people who say Rush Hour 1 and 2 are garbage are likely in general people who don't like mainstream films. Which is fine, we all have our tastes. Kitty and you seem to be nitpicking about the grey areas of my opinions. I am not saying if you don't like Rush Hour you are a film snob, I am saying if you say they are bad movies it is likely because that is not your kind of film. I am not saying this about everyone or every film etc. I was speaking in generalizations for the sake of simplicity. Unfortunately this was not picked up on and became anything but simple.

To say a movie is bad because it doesn't fall in your taste is snobby.

[Fanible]

I don't really consider a 140mil take (+120mil overseas) "bombing at the box office". Maybe compared to it's budget, but if you're using it as a point compared to whether or not people liked it, it's a minute point at best. Just sayin'.

And that's the third of course. The second made bank.

[DAN!]

I don't really consider a 140mil take (+120mil overseas) "bombing at the box office". Maybe compared to it's budget, but if you're using it as a point compared to whether or not people liked it, it's a minute point at best. Just sayin'.

And that's the third of course. The second made bank.

i didnt realize it was that high. i think i am one of the few on this site that saw it though. i don't think there was even a review thread for it.

but man that movie sucked. and the 2nd was below average. the 1st was fun, but i would never watch it again

[Kitty]

Y'know, I'm not even going to bother arguing anymore on this topic with film, mainstream and what not, who gives a f***. X-Men 3, Rush Hour 3 both blow to me. If anyone likes it fine, if not then they can suck it (and I'll back up my reasonings too, booyah).


Yeah Dan, it made a good amount of bank unfortunately. Then again, so did X-Men, so its kind of no surprise. Big fanbase = big bucks, regardless on how the movie is overall to the majority of the viewers. Wolvie at least will be fun from the looks of it, detaching myself from my x-men comic knowledge. First Class is still ridiculously up in the air right now, and I'm obviously not getting my hopes up for it at all.

[DAN!]

you elite snob. how dare you sit in your ivory tower and give your opinion? and how dare you think differently than the majority? kill the minority! :P

actually i mean, "i will keel you till you're dead!"

[DarthVader 2004]

They need too bring Xavier aka Patrick Stewart back atleast for he is Xavier. Since this is after Wolverine maybe Gambit should be involved too tie him in as a first X-Men and Beast as well. They can profile Storn Jean and Scott as kids.

[Spirited Away]

They need too bring Xavier aka Patrick Stewart back atleast for he is Xavier. Since this is after Wolverine maybe Gambit should be involved too tie him in as a first X-Men and Beast as well. They can profile Storn Jean and Scott as kids.
Cyclops and Emma Frost are already teenagers in Wolverine (hmm, say 16/17 years old). I'd say there's a 10 year difference between them and Storm.

But I definitely like your idea about Gambit.

[Knerys]

Explain to me how SM3 killed the franchise, but X3 didn't.Ok maybe kill is too strong a word....but I walked out of X-Men shaking my head at what could have been while I walked out of Spiderman wondering if I had walked into the right movie....

Neither killed either franchise: X3 may be a crap-fest, but its box office proved otherwise, as it is the highest grossing X-Men film to date ($460M). Similarly, SM3 is the biggest of its three films, with $890M in box office.
All the studio marketing money bull**** aside....big box office does not excuse bad movie in my mind.

[saveus1011]

Ok maybe kill is too strong a word....but I walked out of X-Men shaking my head at what could have been while I walked out of Spiderman wondering if I had walked into the right movie....


All the studio marketing money bull**** aside....big box office does not excuse bad movie in my mind.

Very true. X3 was in fact terrible, but it wasn't on the magnitude of Spider-Man 3.

[DragnFire22]

I thought X3 was way worse than SM3

[saveus1011]

I agree. But the level of expectations were a tad higher for SM3. X3, all expectations went out the door when Ratner was announced director.

[DAN!]

XI>smI
XII>smII
XII>smIII

[DragnFire22]

I agree. But the level of expectations were a tad higher for SM3. X3, all expectations went out the door when Ratner was announced director.

Maybe your expectations, not mine.

[saveus1011]

Ratner is Hollywood poison. And before anyone starts this whole bull**** again, I hate him because he has no visual style of his own, and is way too generic. He's a prime example of what a rich kid can do in film school.

[DragnFire22]

I had higher expectations for X3 than SM3, regardless of director. I knew Ratner was just a "shoot the page and get paid" director, I was just hoping the story on the page would deliver. I walked out of the theater pissed off and everything they had done wrong.

With SM3, I wasn't as disappointed. I'm not a huge Venom fan in the first place, so the butchering of the character didn't really get to me. And I enjoy the cheesiness in the franchise.

[DarthVader 2004]

I think Wolverine will make up for X-Men 3 but in my opinion X-Men 3 was better then Spiderman 3 by a good bit.
Heck even fantastic four 2 was better then Spiderman 3.
They were on a good track with orginal older villains and Sand Man was fine alone but maybe The Lizard would have made a better second villain.

[R-Type]

I did not like Sandman too much. It would have been a lot better if Spiderman faced off against Lizard and Venom together, because both are effected by the alien blob and they could have done the comic saga in one movie, rather than stretching it out over more movies. Venom was disappointing because he only had a minor cameo and needed to be in half the film as the anti-Spiderman, not black Spiderman.

[saveus1011]

Venom was forced upon Raimi. He said in the beginning he didn't want to do it. The original plan was The Vulture and Sandman.

[R-Type]

What is wrong with Venom? He is the coolest character. Like what Lex is to Superman, and Joker is to Batman, Venom is to Spiderman. "They complete each other."

[saveus1011]

Actually, I don't know about that. I'd say Green Golbin is that to Spidey.

[DragnFire22]

What is wrong with Venom? He is the coolest character. Like what Lex is to Superman, and Joker is to Batman, Venom is to Spiderman. "They complete each other."

You've got to be kidding. Venom is NOT Spidey's Joker. If anyone is, it's GG.

[DAN!]

yeah, Green Goblin is the biggest villain. i always thought venom was more like a villian that is more of a gimic.

[R-Type]

I am not too familiar with the old Spiderman, only the new one.

[DAN!]

well, if by the new spiderman you mean the movies, then venom is quite a small villian.

[DragnFire22]

I am not too familiar with the old Spiderman, only the new one.

What?

[Tiger Lily]

i wish none of the X-Men films were made, so they could be done the right way.

[R-Type]

What?
New one is where Spiderman is a teenager. Old one is where he is an adult. I feel the movies are halfway between new and old Spiderman comics, but they should have just based it all on the new one, because it makes more sense and has better storylines and realism. New Spiderman is more popular than the old one, so it is sad they didn't make it into a movie before it ended.
I hate Ultimatum. I hope Marvel are happy they are killing their best comic book. It is silly.

[DragnFire22]

So, what you meant to say is that you are more familiar with the Ultimate Universe version of Spider-Man, as opposed to the Marvel Universe version?

And no, Ultimate Spider-Man is NOT more popular than the real Spider-Man.

[DAN!]

yeah, that doesnt make sense. unless you are 10 and never heard of spiderman

[R-Type]

Are you telling the truth? I've read Ultimate Spiderman outsells Amazing Spiderman and Ultimatum outsold Batman RIP.

[Spirited Away]

Are you telling the truth? I've read Ultimate Spiderman outsells Amazing Spiderman and Ultimatum outsold Batman RIP.
Single issues of Ultimate Spidey only outsell Amazing Spidey when it's a big story arc, like Venom. It's regular issue sales are 55k (25k less than Amazing Spider-man).

However, Marvel compile each Ultimate story arc into a volume immediately after they finish doing the single issue comics, and these sell bomb loads. So Ultimate Spider-man is overall more popular than Amazing Spider-man, no doubt about it.

Ultimatum has huge sales figures because it's a huge story. And because it's all wrapped up in Ultimate Spidey (I think the Avengers, F4 and the X-Men are all dead and/or out the picture, leaving it Spider-man vs. Magneto!), safely expect Ultimate Spidey to be the biggest selling comic of spring and summer 2009.

(Ultimate Spider-man is also going to be the only regular Ultimates comic running as of April, and the only way fans of the Ultimates can get their fill.)

[R-Type]

That is very cool but you are spoiling a big part of Ultimatum- good thing I already know lol

[Spirited Away]

Sorry about that, fixed!

[Deexan]

James Cameron's Avatar had its premiere in Los Angeles tonight, and MySpace had a television crew on-hand at the "blue carpet" to interview arrivals.

One of the people there was director Bryan Singer, who directed X-Men and X2: X-Men United for Avatar distributor 20th Century Fox at the start of the decade. In recent interviews, Singer has been asked about possibly directing the planned prequel X-Men: First Class, and he always seemed interested, but earlier this evening he let slip that he has in fact just signed the deal with Fox to direct the next "Origins" film, which will reportedly look at the early days of Cyclops, Jean Grey and others at the Xavier Institute for Higher Learning.

You can see for yourself what Bryan Singer told the interviewer about signing to do X-Men: First Class if you go to the Official MySpace site, click on "Next Slide" at the bottom left and then scroll forward to the 27-minute mark where he's asked about what he has coming up next. He tells the interviewers without any hesitation and complete seriousness: "I'm ramping up to do a movie called 'Jack the Giant Killer' at Warner Bros, and I just yesterday signed a deal to do an 'X-Men: First Class Origins' picture, which is kind of cool. I'm very excited."

This is very exciting news for "X-Men" fans who have been hoping Singer would return to the fold and hopefully we'll have more to report on this news soon.

(Thanks to our pals at ScreenRant.com, FirstShowing.net and FlickChart.com for drawing our attention to this.)

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61682

Good tidings.

[Deexan]

In an interview with Bryan Singer and producer Lauren Shuler Donner at the Los Angeles Times about the first two X-Men movies, the discussion veered to Singer directing X-Men: First Class and possibly even X-Men 4.

Talking about why he thinks the "X-Men" movies are suited for him, Singer said:

"I genuinely like the people, and my personality meshes more with this universe than it does with other universes, I think; I see that now at this point... I feel a connection to the X-Men characters and also the ensemble nature of the films. If you look at 'Usual Suspects'' or my last film, 'Valkyrie,' I feel especially comfortable with ensemble juggling. In the space between all the characters you can disguise a central thought that's hidden in all the discourse. I missed that with the singular relationship story of Superman. And, well, it always gives you something to cut to..."

According to the article, Singer says X-Men: First Class will find its axis in the relationship between Professor X and Magneto and the point where their friendship soured. It will also detail the beginning of the school for mutants and have younger incarnations of some characters with new actors (He shrugged when asked if Hugh Jackman might appear as Wolverine).

"Just doing younger mutants is not enough. The story needs to be more than that. I love the relationship between Magneto and Xavier, these two men who have diametrically opposite points of view but still manage to be friends -- to a point. They are the ultimate frenemies."

Shuler Donner also has pitched Singer on doing a fourth installment of the previously established "X-Men" franchise and Jackman had lunch with Singer to coax him into a project as well, which may or may not be Wolverine 2. Jackman has said the sequel will be set in Japan and released in 2011.

In the interview, Singer turned to Shuler Donner and said of X-Men 4: "Hold that one off for just a little, I'm fixated on the other one right now." She nodded and answered, "I will, I will ... I'm holding it open with high hopes. It's totally different [from 'First Class'] and it will be so interesting for you."

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64364

[DarthVader 2004]

Well she should have been patient for 3 and we would not need this retooling mess. Singer was right for this as was Raimi for that series of Spider-Man films. Sure Superman Returns was a mess up but i still feel X-Men was meant for Singer to do.

[Deexan]

You'd think they would wrap the first X-Men franchise up before starting a new one.

[Fresh Prince]

Why they rebooting X-MEn yet having more of the original movies like X-Men 4????

[DarthVader 2004]

Well my guess is its not a reboot for i think First Class is a origin film for Xavier and Magneto. So my guess is will somehow end with Xavier as in Stewart at the end. To link up maybe with X-Men 1.

[Fresh Prince]

Wait??? X-Men First Class I thought was an orgin movie for the original X-Men members, like Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, ect, ect. Magneto and Professor X supposedly getting their own orgin movie.

[Deexan]

Just one week ago, director Bryan Singer and producer Lauren Schuler-Donner were talking to the L.A. Times about Singer's affinity for the X-Men characters, which convinced him to direct X-Men: First Class, the proposed sequel to the blockbuster trilogy. According to Deadline's Mike Fleming, Singer's obligations to begin production on Jack the Giant Killer, his 3D version of the classic fairy tale for Warner Bros., will have to take precedence and Singer will now only be producing X-Men: First Class.

According to Fleming, Fox is already in talks with a few directors they've short-listed who may be able to start production on the proposed first movie in a new prequel trilogy as early as summer or fall for a 2011 release, while Singer is locked into making the other CG-heavy movie through his contract with Warner Bros. Some may remember that WB snagged Singer to direct Superman Returns, preventing him from directing X-Men: the Last Stand.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64592

[DarthVader 2004]

I begining to think Fox wasn't the cause of X-Men 3 falling to Ratner for i don't think Singer is a unreliable director and i would not be surprised if is off the project by next time we hear about it.
After giving this big speech about X-Men fits him so well and looks forward to developing the characters in First Class.
If you are not totally fickle person you don't say stuff then back pedal to a Producers chair. I as an X-Men fan want someone to direct this who knows what X-Men is and what Characters they could make iconic symbols of Americana.

[Fresh Prince]

I begining to think Fox wasn't the cause of X-Men 3 falling to Ratner for i don't think Singer is a unreliable director and i would not be surprised if is off the project by next time we hear about it.
After giving this big speech about X-Men fits him so well and looks forward to developing the characters in First Class.
If you are not totally fickle person you don't say stuff then back pedal to a Producers chair. I as an X-Men fan want someone to direct this who knows what X-Men is and what Characters they could make iconic symbols of Americana.

Yeah I agree.

[FVD]

I begining to think Fox wasn't the cause of X-Men 3 falling to Ratner for i don't think Singer is a unreliable director and i would not be surprised if is off the project by next time we hear about it.
After giving this big speech about X-Men fits him so well and looks forward to developing the characters in First Class.

If you are not totally fickle person you don't say stuff then back pedal to a Producers chair. I as an X-Men fan want someone to direct this who knows what X-Men is and what Characters they could make iconic symbols of Americana.

The whole mess of X-Men 3, Wolverine and other cockups is all Tom Rothman's doing. The sooner that bastard steps down maybe Fox can become a little more respectable again. :nono:

[DarthVader 2004]

Some feel Avatar restarted the repectibility but that was all Cameron.

[Fresh Prince]

Man X-Men just needs a reboot and done all over again the right way.

[FVD]

Some feel Avatar restarted the repectibility but that was all Cameron.

Yup Rothman would never dare to mess with Cameron period!!

[DarthVader 2004]

I think also Stan Lee should have more say then Just a Cameo in all these marvel films. I wish in a way he was a consultant on these movies even if has gotten a bit crazy in his old age and all. Avi Arad prooved he was agree to any lame piece of money poo. So why not let Stan have more say in at least story

[Bobby007]

Well my guess is its not a reboot for i think First Class is a origin film for Xavier and Magneto. So my guess is will somehow end with Xavier as in Stewart at the end. To link up maybe with X-Men 1.

I remember them kicking around "Origins" movies about these dudes, but yeah the "First Class" stuff should be all about Xavier's first studets: Cyclops, Storm, et al.

I'm a huge Xmen fan, so they can keep making movies forever as far as I'm concerned, but you'd like to see some series get closure so there aren't 2-3 different XMen story strands open at the same time.

[IanTheCool]

It looks like the Kick Ass directer Vaughn is going to do this one. Its coming out in June 2011.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65738

[Deexan]

So 4 superhero movies from Whedon, Nolan, Vaughn and hopefully Singer over 2 summers? Bodes well.

[FVD]

I'm cool with Matthew Vaughn taking on this and as long as Wolverine is NOT in this film, I'll give it a chance. And it's a shame that First Class will not focus on ALL the Original 4 which includes Angel. I don't want to see Storm in this.

As for Singer well it's clear to me that he's overrated as a Director. I didn't think too much of Valkyrie. I did enjoy The Usual Suspects though. It's probably my favourite of his films. As for the first two X-Men films I just don't have time for them anymore.

In a perfect world, Fox would be relegated to Distribution and Marvel Studios getting Creative Control over all their properties. A man can dream can't he? :rolleyes:

[Neverending]

James McAvoy is Professor X:
http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/05/james-mcavoy-playing-professor-x-in-xmen-first-class.html

[Psylent]

X3 was crap.

maybe because it was a different producer and director

[Neverending]

It was the same producer.

[FranklinTard]

the other x men movies are nothing to put on a pedestal either.

[sshuttari]

James McAvoy very interesting choice. I don't hate the guy or anything but I'm wondering why the choose him.

We shall see how it turns out.

[Deexan]

First McAvoy now Fassbender?

Michael Fassbender is in the running for two different comic book adaptations, playing the villain in each, Showbiz411 reports.

The Inglorious Basterds actor is allegedly up for the part of Magneto in X-Men: First Class and the unknown villain of Marc Webb's 3D Spider-Man reboot. According to the article, Fassbender can't fit both films into his schedule and will have to pick one or the other.

If Fassbender were to play Magneto, he would be taking on a younger version of the role played by Ian McKellen in three "X-Men" films and acting opposite the recently-cast James McAvoy in the part of Charles Xavier.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=66898

Beast being cast also:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67138

[HotBoy]

Guys, I think I've found the person who could play Storm in "X-Men: First Class". Now, I'm not a casting director, so this is just my opinion.

Besides, this woman is a relative unknown. Her name is:

OSAS IGHODARO

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/osas-ighodaro-cadillac-records-new-york-6F6cLf.jpg

If you need more info on her, look her up on IMDB.com. She's also had a supporting role in "Notorious".

What do you guys think?

[Nick1988]

It's going to be hard to watch another Magneto not played by Ian Mckellelan he was so great in that role, next to Hugh Jackmans Wolverine he was the best character in the x men movies IMO

[Ramplate]

'X-Men: First Class' Director Changes Movie Because Of 'Inception'

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-x-men-first-class-director-changes-movie-because-of-inception.html

[Nick1988]

I hope he mixed his words when he said reboot, last time i checked x men 3 may have been subpar but it wasnt a disaster like batman and robin, the movie made over 200 million dollars for crying out loud. and it wasnt even that horrible

if it is a reboot than wtf are these studios thinking? Batman was rebooted after 8 years since the last movie and Superman , though it failed was a good 20 yeards.

I hope this is just a prequel .

[IanTheCool]

Wow. Why have a press release about that for any reason other than to make yourself sound cool?

[Ramplate]

To make excuses if it sucks 'well, the movie sucked because we had a great idea and someone else used it' :P

[original spawn]

This is going to be a good prequel, not like the last one we had.

[FVD]

Time to bump up this thread now don't you think, especially in light of all the casting announcements and it being a reboot etc.

I'm actually interested in where this is going now that we've learned in the latest report of the film being actually set in the 1960's. Should be interesting. :P

[Nick1988]

reboot? were was it confirmed its a reboot?

I hope its not

[Neverending]

I doubt it's a reboot. It's a prequel. They're still making that second Wolverine movie, by the way. Starts shooting at the end of the year.

[FVD]

Well from all the recent articles I've been reading I'm sure the word reboot was included in there! :rolleyes:

Also I've been having my reservations about the movie not having Cyclops and Marvel Girl (Jean) but seeing that the movie is set in the 1960's makes sense I guess. And I'm assuming that means no Angel and Iceman either. Only Hank it seems which is kinda fair enough though. And if that's the case they oughta change the title from First Class to something else. But it's bizarre having Havok in there though. I mean he's Scott's younger brother so how the hell is that gonna work???? :rolleyes:

[Nick1988]

Not sure what to think of this movie , i think ultimatley i will like it but not including some of the more known mutants is gonna hurt this movie at the box office i mean we have angel salvadore or whatever shes called over jean grey?I

I just dont really find any of the mutants that interesting in this film

[original spawn]

I hope that this isn´t a reboot, x-men hassurvided this long so i don´t want it to be remade like this.

[Johnny Drama]

It needs to be a reboot, they really ****ed up the continuity enough over the last 2 movies (X3 and XO:W)

In Wolverine (which is set in the 80's mostly) we see a young Emma Frost, but First Class is in the 60's and she is an adult leading The HellFire Club? W-T-F...

[original spawn]

Actually, we don´t know if she´s going to lead the hellfire club, from what i heared she was going to be a student and join the hellfire club.

[Johnny Drama]

Either way this movie predates her existence in Wolverine by about 20 years, which hardly makes sense as she was about 15 in Wolverine.

[Nick1988]

It needs to be a reboot, they really ****ed up the continuity enough over the last 2 movies (X3 and XO:W)

In Wolverine (which is set in the 80's mostly) we see a young Emma Frost, but First Class is in the 60's and she is an adult leading The HellFire Club? W-T-F...

Disregard the Wolverine movie that movie was a joke and i wanna bet anything singer and vaughn didnt even consider using that movie for continuity.

[original spawn]

For all i care i wouldn´t mind if they remade wolverine.

[Johnny Drama]

Disregard the Wolverine movie that movie was a joke and i wanna bet anything singer and vaughn didnt even consider using that movie for continuity.

I agree that the movie was lame, but for better or worse I just want to see continuity in tact unless we are talking about a reboot. But that's just me.

[Nick1988]

I think thats impossible right now to keep in tact with Wolverine, that movie was a mess, and honeslty a good majority of the people won't even notice.

[Nick1988]

For all i care i wouldn´t mind if they remade wolverine.

AGREED. That movie was a disgrace to the character they made Wolverine a wimp compared to who he was in comics and even in the 3 movies.

Not to mention i hated the Sabretooth portrayal, he was the same height and weight as Wolverine , not to mention he looked like an emo vampire wannabe and wasn't intimidating . to put it best he didn't look like Sabretooth at all and i couldnt stand how he would run on all fours, looked stupid.

I know i am gonna get **** for this but i prefered the Sabretooth we saw in X1 over the Wolverine movie

The Sabretooth in X1 was huge , scary as hell looking and looked like sabretooth, now i am not saying Tyler Mane is a better actor than Liev Schrieber, but when Mane talked in that movie HE SOUNDED LIKE SABRETOOTH should sound IMO. Not saying id want him to reappear but id like Sabretooth to look somewhat how he looked in the first movie.

[original spawn]

I actually agree, the sabretooth in the first film was good but he only needed to have some dialogue, but wait, in least in the prequels for x-men 2, if you consider it canon, wich i do, sabretooth survived from the fall in x-men and has some background talk with wolverine and is then taken by stricker. I think that making a film about a story of a man that lived so long and had so many adventures can´t be done in only a 100 mins film, it should have in least 2 hours or they could´ve done it in 2 films and make a magneto film too.
I know that i´m going to be flamed and crucifyed for this but:
Wolverine 1: Losely adapt the origin comic wich had a great story that could work on film and use some time after that like when wolverine´s in the army during World War I
Magneto film: Would cover magneto´s story and show the time before magneto met Charles and therefore make it set before first class and show wolverine helping magneto getting out of a concentration camp.
Wolverine 2: Show how he became weapon x and the events that were shown in flashbacks in X-men and X-Men 2

[southern]

hope this works.

January Jones
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2010/startracks/100920/january-jones-435.jpg

[Nick1988]

It looks really stupid at first glance, but at the same time this movie takes place in the 60's so it works i guess.

[sabin26]

I think it looks great. Now if they just have her wearing the original costume that would smoking.

[Freelow]

Anyone else have the theme from Doublemint gum pop into their head?

[southern]

http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/xmenfirstclassphoto.jpg

In related news, MSN has posted an interview with Michael Fassbender on playing Magneto in the June 3 release. Here are a few excerpts from the interview:

MSN: What drew you to play this character and take on the challenge of assuming a role established by Ian McKellen?

Michael Fassbender: Hopefully I won't disappoint the fan base out there, because I know that what Ian McKellen did sort of latched onto a lot of imaginations and was very successful. But what drew me was the script and Matthew Vaughn and the fact that James McAvoy was going to be playing young Xavier. I thought it was a fresh take on the whole story. I've never been a big comic book enthusiast, but I thought it was an interesting concept to go back to when they were both friends and initially came together.

As someone coming to this from a sort of open perspective and not really being a fan, what did you learn about this character?

He's such a complex character, really, and the idea of him being a villain is interesting considering his history (Lehnsherr is a Holocaust survivor who lost his family in the camps, and later lost his wife and daughter) ... he's a very solitary individual, and the pain and grief that's gone on even before we meet him in this film is an interesting pool of information to draw from, in coming up with this Machiavellian character for whom the ends justified the means. You can see where he's coming from. Human beings don't have the greatest track record in what they've done throughout history, so his point of view is, "Well, we are the next stage of evolution -- (humans) are to us what Neanderthals were to Homo sapiens."

He's always been a fascinating character because he's not completely wrong, but thinks that everything he does is right, no matter what the cost.

He's an extremist, and that's always a dangerous place to be. By the time we leave him at the end of this movie, he's become very clear about what he wants and his decisions and his game plan.

Early word on the movie's story line draws parallels between Xavier and Lehnsherr and Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X in terms of the methods they use to achieve their goals. Did that comparison come out for you while making the film?

You don't set out to play these things that way, but it's a good parallel to have in the back of one's mind, as something to take from real life as a reference. I didn't study any Malcolm X videos or anything like that. But it clarifies where both these characters are coming from. Hopefully by the end of the film, the audience is like, "Damn, why didn't these two guys stay together?" They have enough in common and not in common to keep each other in check, and hopefully the audience will feel like they could have worked together for the greater good.

One of the criticisms of "X-Men: The Last Stand" (2006) was that a lot of mutant characters were jammed into the film, introduced and then never developed. There are a lot of mutants in this film as well, but from your perspective are they handled better here?

The cool thing about this movie is that I think it does deal with each individual mutant, and the ones they've chosen are all very much individuals and unique personalities with unique gifts. What's interesting is that we've gone back to a period where the mutants don't know that there are other people out there like them. They just think they're freaks and outcasts from society ... all of these new characters are fearful of their gifts and uncomfortable and misplaced in society, so hopefully when they all sort of come together and realize they're not alone and feel more comfortable in their own skin, that's a discovery for all the characters that you experience.

The film is set in the '60s and Vaughn has said he wanted to capture a certain look -- specifically referencing the James Bond films of that era. He has also said that the costumes will be more like the comics' versions and not the black rubber look of the other "X-Men" films. Can you comment on both of those ideas?

There's a scene where they just sort of transformed this hall in London into Buenos Aires Airport, and I just looked around this mock airport and said to myself, "My God, I've just had a feeling of being in the '60s." From the colors to the costume designs to the production design itself, there's a sort of nostalgia in the air when you look around the room. It's just from my own perception of the '60s, and all that came with it in terms of the music and the fashions and so forth, but all of that comes across in the visual references that we all have. All of that is there to encapsulate the feeling of that era, for sure.

As for our costumes, we went back and forth on so many things. We added things that worked in the comics, took them away again, and stripped them down again. ... When it came to the Magneto suit, you know, there's various stages of what has been done with it, but you will have something that is traditional to the comics. There is a helmet (laughs), which is of course essential to keep Charlie-boy out of my head, and the colors are also kept traditional to the comics, that sort of red and purple. I don't know if I'm giving you too much, but I'll say it anyway (laughs).

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=73367

[Dhamon22]

White Queen is hot as hell. Other than that, meh.

[sshuttari]

I like the poster not so sure about the movie still... I don't think prequels are ever good ideas.

[southern]

As of right now, I'm very much looking forward to this movie.
I really like James, Michael, Rose, & January from other things they have been in.


Though I have no idea who the red face guy and the 2 teens are.

[bbf2]

The cast list of this movie is so freaking bizarre.

First of all, it's supposed to be set in the 60's? But we have an adult Emma Frost, who appeared as a teenager in Wolverine? Or are they just going to say that there just happen to be two blonde female mutants named Emma Frost in this universe? And then Havok, Cyclops' younger brother, is in it and is now the same age as Magneto and Xavier?

And then Azazal or whatever (who is NOT a mutant and is actually a demon from hell used as a stand-in for Satan, only appeared in a few issues, and his only relation to the X-Men is that he was introduced as Nightcrawler's father in a horrible storyline that was immediately retconned because no fans liked the idea of Kurt being the son of Satan) is in this movie? WHY?

Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw is pretty cool though.

[PG Cooper]

Looking forward to this.

[Neverending]

we have an adult Emma Frost, who appeared as a teenager in Wolverine?

I think they're pretending that Wolverine never existed. Funny enough, they're doing the same thing with the Wolverine sequel.

[Tolkien]

Official Cast Photos, be heeere!

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/x-men-first-class-cast.jpg?w=600&h=376

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kevin-bacon-and-january-jones-xmen-first-class1.jpg?w=600&h=400

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/james-mcavoy-and-michael-fassbinder-x-men-first-class.jpg?w=600&h=400

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/01/19/x-menfirst-class-three-exclusive-photos-and-a-report-from-the-stressed-out-set/

[Fanible]

I really like some of the cast, but that's about it where I stand for the moment. As bbf2 said, a lot of this doesn't make much sense. There's just no logic behind Cyclops not being here, but yet his younger brother is.

[Neverending]

The film takes place in the `60s. Why would Cyclops be there? Also, Havok is his youngest brother IN THE COMICS. When have these films ever been faithful to the source material?

[PsYkOoOoO]

My girlfriend is a X-Men nut, and she thinks that the character poster looks awful. "THAT'S Mystique?!" she said. Not going too well with a fan.

[southern]

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/james-mcavoy-and-michael-fassbinder-x-men-first-class.jpg?w=600&h=400

^^ Makes me want to see the movie

[Neverending]

"THAT'S Mystique?!" she said.

She was disturbed by her large forehead.

[southern]

But we have an adult Emma Frost, who appeared as a teenager in Wolverine?

this was listed with the new teaser poster

X-Men: First Class will serve as a prequel to the Bryan Singer original, charting the early friendship and subsequent rivalry of Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr (the man who would become Magneto).

[Fanible]

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/X-Men-First-Class-Teaser-Poster.jpg

[southern]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/magneto1.jpg

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/xavier1.jpg

and in regards to the promo image
There seems to be some kind of communication problem between X-Men: First Class director Matthew Vaughn and 20th Century Fox. Vaughn is claiming that this promo image was not approved to be released, yet we know for a fact that 20th Century Fox distributed the image officially to Yahoo!, MSN, Moviefone and IGN to post along with early interviews with the cast. Vaughn told /Film the following:

"I freaked out on them yesterday. I don't know where the hell that came from. I don't think it's a Fox image. It's not a pre-approved image. When I found out, I said, what the ***** is this *****, and Fox is running around trying to figure out what happened as well. I agree. It's like a bad photoshop, which maybe it was by someone. It didn't reflect the movie. I was shocked when I saw it. I was like 'Jesus Christ'...

[Dhamon22]

Aside from the line up picture I think everything looks pretty good. And after reading Vaughn's quote about it, it doesn't seem as bad.

[sshuttari]

McAvoy = win

Don't know about the guy who's playing Magneto.

Hope hes good too.

[southern]

Don't about the guy who's playing Magneto.

Hope hes good too.

Michael Fassbender has been pretty great in what I've seen him in (Inglourious Basterds, 300, A Bear Named Winnie, Band of Brothers). I'm more excited about him playing Magneto then McAvoy playing Charles.


trivia: Both lead actors were in Band of Brothers. Fassbender as Christensen lasted a lot longer than McAvoy as Miller.

[Dhamon22]

Fassbender was also good in Hunger.

[Fresh Prince]

Azazel being in this film is awesome.

[PG Cooper]

I hope we get a trailer soon. I like Matthew Vaughn and the X-Men are my favourite comic property being adapted this year.

[Tolkien]

I'm thinking Superbowl for the teaser... same with Captain America.

[Neverending]

Captain America is confirmed to have a trailer for the Super Bowl. I think Thor is getting one as well. But First Class seems to be sitting this one out.

[southern]

I'm hoping it'll be there and it's just that they're keeping it quiet (for whatever reason).
I really want a trailer for this.

[southern]

from the director:

The X-Men are heading back to the ’60s, which, considering that the first X-Men comic hit stands in 1963, is maybe where they truly belong. X-Men: First Class (out June 3) explores the initial friendship and eventual schism between Charles Xavier (James McAvoy) and Erik Lensherr (Inglourious Basterds‘ Michael Fassbender, pictured right), two young mutants who later became known as the feuding Professor X and Magneto. But first they’ll have to thwart a bent-on-world-domination secret society, the Hellfire Club.

EW recently checked in with Kick-Ass director Matthew Vaughn (pictured above, inset), who talked about how his version of Magneto will resemble a certain silver-screen icon from the movie’s time period, why he’s not worried about die-hard X-Men fans, and how he returned to the X-Men universe after famously stepping away from X-Men: The Last Stand.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How would you describe First Class to the uninitiated?
MATTHEW VAUGHN: The best way of describing it is X-Men meets Bond, with a little bit of Thirteen Days thrown in for good measure. It’s set in the ’60s, and I basically molded a young Magneto on a young Sean Connery. He’s the ultimate spy — imagine Bond, but with superpowers.
If Magneto is Bond, then what about Charles Xavier?
You’re seeing Xavier become a professor. For me, Magneto is the good guy in the film, but he’s a sort of a good bad guy. He literally kicks off the movie, and Xavier goes along on the ride trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and trying to persuade Erik that you don’t have to kill everyone.

I know you’re under tight restrictions about what you can reveal regarding the plot, but, well, what else can you say?
In the beginning of the film, no one knows that mutants exist, and all the mutants don’t know that each other exist. They’re all in hiding. Kevin Bacon plays a very megalomaniac mutant [Sebastian Shaw] who decides that he can take over the world and that mutants are the future. Erik and Charles then meet each other and hook up with the CIA to try and prevent World War III. You find out everything about what went on between Erik and Charles.

And there are flashbacks with Erik and Charles as young children?
They’re not flashbacks — we start there. It starts in 1942, and then works its way up to 1962.

Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans?
Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.

Is the movie related at all to the First Class comics?
Not really. There are a lot of nods to the X-Men world and the X-Men movies, but it’s definitely its own beast.

You were going to direct X-Men: The Last Stand and then dropped out two months before filming started. The story is that you thought you weren’t going to have enough time to see your vision through…
That’s true. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, I probably would have had more time then than I do now, which is highly ironic. But I also have more experience now than I did then. And I had no idea how big-budget filmmaking worked, so I was just applying small-budget independent-style logic to the wrong equation. And when I saw the film, I realized that Fox would have given me all the tools I needed. I was just stupid enough not to take them. But we both decided to cross the bridge together again. I definitely had burned a bridge. But they asked, so we met and we both kissed and made up and went off to make the film.

How did you settle on James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto, respectively?
Professor X is a very hard character to cast. Out of all the characters, he’s the dullest if you really think about it. He’ll be in a wheelchair eventually, and he’s sort of a sanctimonious preacher half of the time. Patrick Stewart brought so much to that role, and I needed to get an actor who could do the same — who could give him a fourth dimension that’d make him sparkle. James was literally at the top of the list, and he said yes, so I got my first actor very quickly.

Magneto was a juicier role. I’ve been watching Fassbender for a long time, and I knew the guy was going to pop as a movie star. He read it and knocked it out of the park, and the rest of the cast just fell in around them. What makes me laugh is, by this time next year, half of my cast is going to be extremely popular and famous. Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop. Nicholas Hoult [i.e. Hank McCoy/Beast] definitely is. People are going to find Kevin Bacon a revelation, and January Jones [i.e. Emma Frost] has got huge star potential.

And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it.

[PG Cooper]

I'm thinking/hoping his Twilight comment was more of a joke.

[Neverending]

Of course it was a joke, but at the same, these films have always been about teen angst. Rogue in X-Men. Bobby in X2. Rogue/Bobby/Kitty in Last Stand.

[Fresh Prince]

I love it...seems like its gonna be the best X-Men film yet.

[HotBoy 2.0]

It looks good, but why put Havok in the earlier set film before Cyclops? I mean, isn't Cyclops older than Havok???

[HotBoy 2.0]

Also, tell me a bit about James McAvoy!!!

[Fresh Prince]

Also, tell me a bit about James McAvoy!!!

He was the star in that bad action movie Wanted.

[southern]

Also, tell me a bit about James McAvoy!!!

watch Children of Dune. He's fantastic.

[PG Cooper]

Angst works well with the X-Men when executed properly.

[DarthVader 2004]

He sounds alot like Michael Bay sometimes but the lower budget version. He is clearly saying same reason that Bay wanted Optimus with Flames. Vaughn is making it in his vision of X-Men.

[PG Cooper]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_first_class/pictures

[southern]

UPDATE: 20th Century Fox has confirmed that fans won't have to wait much longer for footage. The X-Men: First Class trailer will arrive via the Facebook page tomorrow, February 10th, so click on the image below to "Like" the film and check back soon for the debut.

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=73998

[Neverending]

Midnight?

[Fresh Prince]

This could be the best X-Men film to date.

[Ramplate]

It looks good, but why put Havok in the earlier set film before Cyclops? I mean, isn't Cyclops older than Havok???

Havok is Cyclops' brother. They're pretty close in age.
Cyclops appears in the comic books in 1963
Havok appears in the comic books in 1969

[Ramplate]

The cast list of this movie is so freaking bizarre.

First of all, it's supposed to be set in the 60's? But we have an adult Emma Frost, who appeared as a teenager in Wolverine?

I think they're pretending that Wolverine never existed. Funny enough, they're doing the same thing with the Wolverine sequel.

Wolverine was born in the late 1800's he fought in WWI and with Captain America in WWII
(In fact, I think Logan makes an appearance in the Captain America movie coming up)

[Neverending]

Word is that the trailer will premiere sometime in the afternoon.

[Ayemef]

Wolverine was born in the late 1800's he fought in WWI and with Captain America in WWII
(In fact, I think Logan makes an appearance in the Captain America movie coming up)

interesting, played by who?

[Tolkien]

If it's not Jackman it's not Logan.

[Ayemef]

well we know for a fact that SHOULD Logan make a cameo in Capt. America it's definitely not Jackman

and Jackman's not the only one that can play Logan there Tolkien

[Tolkien]

...may not be the only one who can, but still remains the only one that should.

[Ayemef]

LMAO, stating that like it's fact

[Tolkien]

Know the difference between can and should before you talk.

[Ayemef]

Know the difference between can and should before you talk.

know the difference between FACT and OPINION before you TYPE

you were still stating it like it was

Jackass

but I'm through talking to morons

/Peace

[southern]

trailer will be up this afternoon.

[Tolkien]

know the difference between FACT and OPINION before you TYPE

you were still stating it like it was

Jackass

but I'm through talking to morons

/Peace
That's the third time you've used profanity when arguing with someone. I'm not one of the n00bs, if you're going to argue with me, do it with some sense of maturity. Otherwise don't bother replying.

[Ayemef]

That's the third time you've used profanity when arguing with someone. I'm not one of the n00bs, if you're going to argue with me, do it with some sense of maturity. Otherwise don't bother replying.

so, comedians cuss, actors cuss, I'm a musician, I cuss, it's part of my everyday speech, it's how I talk so it's second nature

got a problem with it?

Good, go F yourself

there I cleaned it up for ya :cool:

[Ramplate]

Keep it Civil - no need for that.

[Neverending]

Wolverine will NOT be in Captain America. Fox has the X-Men rights. Paramount/Marvel Studios does not.

trailer will be up this afternoon.

West Coast time.

[Ramplate]

I know I read the name Logan somewhere while looking up The Howling Commando appearance in the movie, but apparently he won't make it to film

Originally cameo appearances were planned in the film for James Logan Howlett (Wolverine) and Erik Lensherr (Magneto), who were present during World War II (Logan was a soldier and Lensherr was a prisoner of war). These cameos were scrapped due to rights issues.
Marvel Movie Wiki

[Frizzo the Clown]

so, comedians cuss, actors cuss, I'm a musician, I cuss, it's part of my everyday speech, it's how I talk so it's second nature

got a problem with it?

Good, go F yourself

there I cleaned it up for ya :cool:
Thats enough of that.

[Neverending]

Yeah, let's not make Frizzo have to do some work around here.

[Ayemef]

Yeah, let's not make Frizzo have to do some work around here.

Never

[Fresh Prince]

I feel their can be better actors for Logan then Hugh Jackman.

[Jason Krueger]

They need to hurry the hell up now.

[Tolkien]

Seriously must be west cost time. It's already 11:30am in Hawaii, which means it's almost evening in New York, lol.

[Ayemef]

I feel their can be better actors for Logan then Hugh Jackman.

Easily

Hackman makes a good Wolverine, but he's not the END ALL Wolverine

there are other actors that can play the part and should be given the opportunity to do so

[southern]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrbHykKUfTM&feature=player_embedded


http://u2.interference.com/images/smilies/heart.gif Michael Fassbender & James McAvoy http://u2.interference.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

[PG Cooper]

Definitely my most anticipated comic book adaptation of the year.

[cg124]

Trailer was alright althought I'm still confused on how this fits in with the canon of the original films

[sshuttari]

Beast looks a lot better