Whos read Watchmen?

[HaDoKen]

Just wanted to know how many have read it....also do you think that Alan Moore is correct that it is unfilmmable?..After reading his comic I think that it is unfilmmable but wont say anything more until I watch the movie...maybe then I could be wrong

[Art_of_crime]

Read it, loved it, had odd dreams after the fact. Still can't see someone in a trench coat and not think of Rorschach.
I think the story is translatable, but not as a hollywood movie. we need some indy company or BBC. Hollywood has a history of changing things just for the sake of changing them.

[Dhamon22]

I've read it. I loved it as well. I have faith that the movie will live up to it.

[FranklinTard]

wasn't too impressed whilst reading it but afterwards when i let it sink in i was quite pleased with it.

[Knerys]

I've read it twice. I don't think anything is truely unfilmable. It's all in how you go about it. But Snyder certainly has his work cut out for him.

[Art_of_crime]

There are many subtle nuances that when withheld from the movie will make it seem cheapened to a lot of hardcore fans.
I'm glad that I'm not a filmmaker trying to make this epic fit into just over two hours.
It deserves at least 6 hours to do it justice. thats why I wish it was being done as a miniseries

[IanTheCool]

How is it not unfilmable? That's just Moore's ego talking.
Fantastic book though. I'm with Franklin, except that I was impressed with itwhen I read it, but even more so when I let it sink in.

[Art_of_crime]

There are many subtle nuances that when withheld from the movie will make it seem cheapened to a lot of hardcore fans.
I'm glad that I'm not a filmmaker trying to make this epic fit into just over two hours.
It deserves at least 6 hours to do it justice. thats why I wish it was being done as a miniseries

[Alien]

I've read the first chapter but I'm so busy these days I find it hard to find time for it.

[Tzarinna]

I read it last year for the first time. I really need to revisit it, I'm sure I missed a lot. It has so many layers that filming is certainly a task. I would assume that's why production is as long as it is. I feel like it will be worth the wait. Hope I'm not wrong.

[Knerys]

Yeah last time I read it was a few years ago. I need a refresher.

[Dracula]

I read it yers ago, loved it. I've been saying it was unfilmable since long before the current project was underway.

[halo7]

I read it and actually thought the whole thing felt very cinematic. Much more so than any other graphic novel I had read before it. Unfilmable my ass.

[MasterChief117]

I love it. Its up there as one of the best graphic novels. The story is very well done.

[Art_of_crime]

I would say that it is unstreamlineable. Its filmable. Just don't try to make it a two hour popcorn hero film. Its not spider-man

[saveus1011]

I read it yers ago, loved it. I've been saying it was unfilmable since long before the current project was underway.

That makes two of us.

Read it a while ago and loved it ever since. Reread it this year and loved it even more.

[Alien]

Any comic can be made into a movie. There might be changes but that's always needed when making an adaption from any source material.

[saveus1011]

Yes, but if you adapted The Godfather into a comic book, you wouldn't change anything would you?

I agree with Moore that it was designed as comic and should stay as such.

[Alien]

Why would you adapt The Godfather into a comic? It's the number one movie of all time, watch it or don't, don't read a knock off comic adaption. (For the record I hated The Godfather)

[petergriffin246]

I read it and believe it or not I believe that it is very filmable but the director and writer must love and understand the source matireal

[saveus1011]

Why would you adapt The Godfather into a comic? It's the number one movie of all time, watch it or don't, don't read a knock off comic adaption.

That's EXACTLY how I feel about Watchmen.

[Art_of_crime]

Why would you adapt The Godfather into a comic? It's the number one movie of all time, watch it or don't, don't read a knock off comic adaption. (For the record I hated The Godfather)
For the record I hated Godfather also, but I see what he is saying. the analogy seems to have passed by you though

[Justin]

Never even heard of it.

[Alien]

That's EXACTLY how I feel about Watchmen.
But it's Hollywood, they seem to think they have a duty to adapt everything into a movie. And then they always have to change things to make it a good movie so Watchmen is no exception.

[Matrix_Fan]

Read it right after returning from comic-con. Read it cover to cover non stop. Fantastic graphic novel. Will revisit it again before the film comes out. It's not entirely unfilmable, the "Under The Hood" was obviously something that wasn't going to fit the theater release, along with "Tales Of The Black Freighter". But both will be featured on the DVD/Blu Ray, with "Under The Hood" being presented at a Documentary.

I do agree that Snyder has a challenge ahead of him, but the things I've seen so far have been fantastic IMO. The 163 Minute runtime is perfect for theaters, but I just know there's probably an even longer version wating in the dvd wings.

[Knerys]

Saw a guy reading this on the subway on my way to work this morning. :)

[Justin]

Why would you adapt The Godfather into a comic? It's the number one movie of all time, watch it or don't, don't read a knock off comic adaption. (For the record I hated The Godfather)

I'm not sure if this is entirely relevant here, but do you realize The Godfather was a book before anything?

[saveus1011]

In that case, you wouldn't adapt Citizen Kane to a comic would you?

That's the point I'm trying to make. It won't work properly in a different medium.

[FranklinTard]

well citizen kane is largely a technical masterpiece... not really the story telling... or maybe im mistaken...

[Justin]

In that case, you wouldn't adapt Citizen Kane to a comic would you?

That's the point I'm trying to make. It won't work properly in a different medium.

Why couldn't you? They adapted Fritz Lang's M to a graphic novel. And it's done amazingly well.

There is no written law that states otherwise.

[saveus1011]

They may have, but M isn't Citizen Kane, which is what Watchmen is hailed as being in the comic world.

[Justin]

That really doesn't make a difference. If anyone here has seen M, they know how extremely relevant it is to the cinematic world -- the lighting alone is legendary. But that's beside the point.

These claims just hold no water. It's unbelievable how many people here are already "hating" the film without ever having seen it. It's absolutely ridiculous.

[Knerys]

It's nerves. Or that's my theory. I understand it has the potential to flop, but I choose to remain guardedly optimistic on this. It's a huge project and he's still fairly untested. This is the Holy Grail of graphic novels to many people and it's going to ruffle some feathers regardless. And I can't deny it would be fun to see the story played out in real time.

But yeah, you can't pass judgement until you actually see it. I believe that even in regards to Star Trek. ;)

[Alien]

I'm not sure if this is entirely relevant here, but do you realize The Godfather was a book before anything?
Yeah I do, I bet the book was just as bad as the movie.

[Knerys]

well citizen kane is largely a technical masterpiece... not really the story telling... or maybe im mistaken...

You would be correct. At least in my opinion. I can appreciate what Citizen Kane did for film making in that regard. But not something I would say I "enjoyed".

[saveus1011]

Yeah I do, I bet the book was just as bad as the movie.

Why did you hate The Godfather?

[Alien]

Why did you hate The Godfather?
It bored me. It might have something to do with my hatred of that mobster gang genre that really turned me off it.

[FranklinTard]

but it was about family....

[Alien]

A family of Italian mobsters.

[Art_of_crime]

It bored me. It might have something to do with my hatred of that mobster gang genre that really turned me off it.

I'm with you on the mob/gang distaste.
i don't like the arrogance and lifestyle associated with "organized" crime.

back to the main subject. Do you think that there could ever be a continuation to this story? Would Alan Moore ever revisit the survivors and give us a 10 year later update?

[Alien]

From what I can tell from Alan Moore I don't see it happening.

[saveus1011]

Why? There's no need for a sequel to this masterpiece.

[Deexan]

Starting reading this again today, got a physical copy this time rather than viewing it on my PC. Ive picked up on a lot more in pretty much every individual panel after making the mistake of focussing on the dialogue first time around and not taking in all of the visual depth.

[saveus1011]

Ordered the Absolute Edition from Borders the other day. Also re-reading this.

[Art_of_crime]

From what I can tell from Alan Moore I don't see it happening.

yeah I don't expect one either. I just want more Watchmen.

[CitizenSteel]

I read it, it was a good read, overrated as all hell.


only character I liked was rorasch, sad origin.

[IanTheCool]

I didn't find it overrated at all. I found it very.... rated.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I have read it a dozen times. Once each year at least, I suppose.

I think it can be filmed, only if they give up a whole lot of details in the book.

[Justin]

I'll say it again, anything can be filmed -- time restraints are the only problem. There is nothing wrong with giving up details of the book, but it must be consistent thematically, otherwise it falls apart.

Edit: Also, I picked up the re-released Absolute Edition today -- pretty nice!

[PsYkOoOoO]

What's new in the re-release? I only have the regular version.

[Justin]

Some bonus sketch materials, much of the same pages included in the original Absolute Edition, but recolored...

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=10206

[Drizzt240]

Finished reading it the other day. Liked it a lot. Had some slow moments but the climax was worth everything.

I think people are saying it's "unfilmable" because there is no way to replicate the texts that readers read that actually exist in the Watchman universe (the articles and letters and such). Also do you think they are going to put in the pirate subplot? If they do I doubt it will be the way it is in the comic, but I could see them doing it as a short 5-10 minute segment once in the film.

[Matrix_Fan]

The Tales Of The Black Freighter will be made into a 20 minute animated short and will be released on a dvd a bit after the release of the movie. Also, the text stuff (Under The Hood) is going to be made as sort of a Documentary, and I think will be included with the Black Frighter dvd.

When Watchmen finally comes out on dvd, there will be a cut of the movie that will not only have more footage, but will also reinsert Black Frighter into the story.

[Justin]

I think people are saying it's "unfilmable" because there is no way to replicate the texts that readers read that actually exist in the Watchman universe (the articles and letters and such).

I don't believe that is the reason. I've found that many believe it's "unfilmable" due to the tremendous complexity and multilayered nature of Watchmen.

Since film has time constraints, it requires that much be cut out of the film (hence the lack of The Black Freighter). That is why many are very concerned about how faithful a film adaptation would be.

[saveus1011]

What's the point of Black Freighter if there's no squid?

[Matrix_Fan]

What does the exclusion of the squid have to do with Black Freighter?

[saveus1011]

Just some guy named Max Shea, but I guess bandwagoners wouldn't know about him.

[Matrix_Fan]

Thanks for no help at all. I read the GN back in august, and I forgot about that detail. Give me a break dude. It's nice to be helpful once in a while instead of being rude.

[halo7]

Let us also point out that Max Shea overall isn't THAT important. So forgetting about him is not exactly a crime against humanity.

[Matrix_Fan]

Saveus seems to think so. That crazy dude.

[FranklinTard]

let us also point out that max shea overall isn't that important. So forgetting about him is not exactly a crime against humanity.

shut up you bandwagoner!

[PsYkOoOoO]

Oh, I hate purists.

[Art_of_crime]

^ boy are you in the wrong place

[saveus1011]

Picked up the Absolute edition today. Incredible. No fan of the book should be without it.

[IanTheCool]

Picked up the Absolute edition today. Incredible. No fan of the book should be without it.

Why? What does it all have?

[saveus1011]

Notes from Gibbons and Moore, complete character breakdowns of all the characters, original sketches of the characters, select script pages with breakdowns. The colors on the pages are gorgeous. I imagine this was how it was meant to look.

[Matrix_Fan]

Restored colors do sound tempting. Personally, I'm happy with my paperback. However, I'll consider this when the holidays come around.

On a side note: The covers for the movie companions (art books, etc.) look really cool.

[saveus1011]

Restored colors do sound tempting. Personally, I'm happy with my paperback. However, I'll consider this when the holidays come around.

If I had the money I'd buy you a copy. I honestly thought you had the Absolute edition.

[saveus1011]

Just nabbed the new hardcover (the one with everyone on the front.) GREAT alternative to the Absolute. It has a few of the extras from that edition and all of the recolored pages present there too.

Honestly, you really can't go wrong with either one.

[Matrix_Fan]

If I had the money I'd buy you a copy. I honestly thought you had the Absolute edition.

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

[saveus1011]

Actually, no. No sarcasm at all.