Pirates of the Caribbean 4 - it's coming!

[Ewok Droppings]

Just saw this on the news, I'll find a better source later on the web:

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20080925/pirates-of-the-caribbean-4-confirmed-only-depp-signs-up/

Can't find another thread for this yet. I'm hoping this one will be better than the third which was a huge disappointment IMO.

[FranklinTard]

they got progressively worse. this one will be awful. you heard it here first.

[Ewok Droppings]

Yeah, they did go from great to really bad, but I'm hoping they figure it out for the 4th installment. I liked Dead Man's Chest, but At World's End was pretty crappy.

[DragnFire22]

I wonder if they will pick up where they left off with the last one - The Fountain of Youth.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

I hope they bring back the fun elements from the first one. The second and third ones tried to be too serious and they went a little over board with the land of the dead stuff. Hopefully this one can put the series back on track.

[sshuttari]

Is Gore Verbinski coming back.

[DragnFire22]

. = statement

? = question

[Ewok Droppings]

I hope they bring back the fun elements from the first one. The second and third ones tried to be too serious and they went a little over board with the land of the dead stuff. Hopefully this one can put the series back on track.

Actually, I thought the second one was more comical than the first with the whole paddle wheel sword fight, etc.

[PsYkOoOoO]

The comic in the second movie went overboard, I feel. Then the third movie came and made it too serious.

[MovieBuff801]

I think I'm one of the few who actually liked BOTH of the Pirates sequels. IMO, they were very entertaining, had interesting mythology behind the stories and great humor.

However, I can't say I'm 100% sold on the idea of continuing the series without Will and Elizabeth. Sure, Jack will still have Barbossa to play off of, but him having Will or Elizabeth to play off of was one of the things numerous fans enjoyed and to not have that will seem kind of awkward. But the whole idea of The Fountain of Youth being the MacGuffin for this one does indeed set up some interesting possibilities.

Guess we'll have to see what they do with everything this time around.

[IanTheCool]

Another case of not knowing when to stop.

[sshuttari]

It will be interesting to see where they will go now, could be another great start to a new reborn franchise.

I think there going to take away the seriousness was started with the 2nd and 3rd films.

Go for the fun entertaining aspect like the first one I say.

[MovieBuff801]

Wait, DMC was serious? As I recall, it was more goofy and humor-driven than COTBP. AWE was the most serious of the three, I'll give you that, but even that one had its funny moments, as well as being entertaining.

[SnoBorderZero]

Oh no not another one. Then again can you blame Disney? Aside from Pirates and Pixar, what else do they have going for them?

[MovieBuff801]

Oh no not another one. Then again can you blame Disney? Aside from Pirates and Pixar, what else do they have going for them?

National Treasure's a pretty fun series.

[SnoBorderZero]

Very true, but even then are they going to just continue milking out the few things they have going for them? Eisner was just... terrible and Disney has seen a real creative slump since Katzenburg bolted for DreamWorks. I'm happy to see things like Tron 2 on the way, but Disney is not what it was 10 years ago.

[MovieBuff801]

I definitely see your point and agree. Disney has had a few good films in the past few years that weren't Pixar-related, but overall they're really losing it. I mean, the next film they have coming out is Beverly Hills Chiuahua, which looks criminally awful.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Bolt>>Chihuahua imo.

But yeah, DMC and AWE were WAY too serious and not nearly as swashbuckling as the first. This is a series that should be fun and lighthearted and not dark and grim. And that's why in a way DMC and AWE failed. It's like trying to make Herald and Kumar into Lord of the Rings.

[MovieBuff801]

Please explain to me how DMC and AWE were dark and grim. I'm curious to hear that explanation.

[SnoBorderZero]

And how you can ever compare Harold and Kumar to Lord of the Rings in any way.

[Ewok Droppings]

I thought AWE's problem was that it was too weird and convoluted. It just felt like poor writing and wasn't nearly as exciting.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

I don't think it was convoluted. Most of the answers are in the movie but...most people don't usually pick it up due to all the weird stuff happening.

[Prak, the Mad]

I liked all three movies also, but they did get a tad too dramatic with the Will/Elizabeth/Jack interactions. The fourth movie should pick up where AWE ended, not neccesarily at the fountain of youth, although that would be a good mcguffin, but with the world changing and leaving little to no place for pirates, and Jack and Barbosa having to find a place and a way for their way of life to survive. Let's face it, piracy was about freedom, and being a master of one's own destiny, Elizabeth would be perfectly happy to move on and take the roles society offers to her in the new world order, but Jack and Barbosa will tell society to take a long walk of a short plank and make their own place and to hell with what the world wants to do. They'll use whatever new tools the industrial revolution makes available, but they'll still be pirates sailing the seven seas as the world shrinks.

[MovieBuff801]

I don't think it was convoluted. Most of the answers are in the movie but...most people don't usually pick it up due to all the weird stuff happening.

The "weirdness", as you say, is something about the sequels I enjoyed. And I agree that one of the reasons many people didn't like AWE was that they didn't expect to actually have to pay attention to the plot, rather than just be amazed by the action sequences.

I liked all three movies also, but they did get a tad too dramatic with the Will/Elizabeth/Jack interactions. The fourth movie should pick up where AWE ended, not neccesarily at the fountain of youth, although that would be a good mcguffin, but with the world changing and leaving little to no place for pirates, and Jack and Barbosa having to find a place and a way for their way of life to survive. Let's face it, piracy was about freedom, and being a master of one's own destiny, Elizabeth would be perfectly happy to move on and take the roles society offers to her in the new world order, but Jack and Barbosa will tell society to take a long walk of a short plank and make their own place and to hell with what the world wants to do. They'll use whatever new tools the industrial revolution makes available, but they'll still be pirates sailing the seven seas as the world shrinks.

Oh yes, having Jack and Barbossa rebel against the tide of change would definitely make for some interesting story elements.

[Tolkien]

they got progressively worse. this one will be awful. you heard it here first.

Yeah, they did go from great to really bad, but I'm hoping they figure it out for the 4th installment. I liked Dead Man's Chest, but At World's End was pretty crappy.

Well, to be fair... They did kind of create this entire series from a themed-park ride.

lmao.

[Tolkien]

. = statement

? = question

Message Board = home of grammer imperfection. ;)

[IanTheCool]

Oh no not another one. Then again can you blame Disney? Aside from Pirates and Pixar, what else do they have going for them?

Their vibrant and exciting classical animation department??

[André]

I don't think it was convoluted. Most of the answers are in the movie but...most people don't usually pick it up due to all the weird stuff happening.

Dont be so condescending and assume people didnt like the plot because they didnt "get it". It wasnt a deep plot, nor hard to understand. It was just bad.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Correction. It was just weird.

[Fanible]

Gotta go with Andrey. It was bad - and boring.

[JT3294]

Bottom line is...

the problem with DMC (which was ok) and AWE (which was trying to be too smart) was that they were tying up loose ends and had to connect. Thing was AWE tried to hard to make the connections all loopy and crazy. Instead of the "Ohhhhhhhhh coooool" reaction they were shooting for when a "twist" came about, they got a "was that really f**king necessary" reaction.

Pirates 4 will most likely in NO WAY refer to the past movies other than the characters. So the story can get back to the fun Action/Comedy that CotBP was. That's why a 4th is a good idea.

Keep in mind that they never INTENDED on having a sequel till they saw how well the first did. So now they're with the same thought... there's no pressure.

[Diablo]

SDCC Exclusive: Pirates 4 Starts Shooting Spring '10!
Source: Edward Douglas
July 23, 2009

Comic-Con is in full swing at this point, and ComingSoon.net got a surprise interview with Disney's Head of Production Oren Aviv where we talked about the genesis of some of the projects they were showing at the con, though we did have a lot of questions about future Disney plans as well. One of the movies that's still on the forefront of everyone's mind is the fourth installment of "Pirates of the Caribbean." Producer Jerry Bruckheimer told us a few weeks back that they were working on a script, but Aviv and Disney are definitely on board as we learned when we discovered that they have plans to be rolling film on the movie as early as next year.

"We're going to shoot 'Pirates 4' in April and May of next year," Aviv told us during our interview. "We are going to release it hopefully in 2011 is the plan." He said that this time they would only be doing one movie this time that would "hopefully be the first of another trilogy."

"It's important to get the story right and it's important to me to scale it down, because we can't get bigger," Aviv admitted. "The movies have subsequently gotten bigger and bigger and very complicated and they were satisfying on so many levels obviously, but I want to kind of reboot the whole thing and bring it down to its core, its essence, just characters." He agreed that there is a lot of Captain Jack Sparrow's back story that we haven't seen yet without confirming or denying that we might see some of that in the fourth movie. Still no word on whether Gore Verbinski might come back for the fourth movie.

Look for our full interview with Mr. Aviv very soon. It will definitely be of great interest to anyone who is wondering how Disney has been making decisions about some of the movies they've been making and will make in the future.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=57429

Hopefully they get a good story down and I like that they are scaling it down. That's what made the first Pirates so good. I like the idea of a prequel.

[Jordan KO]

i thought all 3 Pirates movies were awesome! but i question a fourth, becuzz to many sequels can be a bad thing, just look what happened to Saw

[MasterChief117]

Wow, I thought the first one was pretty entertaining but the other two were extremely boring, choppy and the action wasn't even that great to hold it up. Then, I go on to CS' main page to find that they are making another PREQUEL installment. Sweet jesus, what has this planet come to.

[Jordan KO]

i thought it was a sequel just about Jack? not a prequel?

[MasterChief117]

I'm pretty sure I just read that it was a prequel. Either way, a sequel or another film about Pirates is pretty lame to me.

[DarthVader 2004]

I think a Prequel installment has a better potential then a sequel. Come on don't ya wanna see a Cannon Strapped too Bootstraps Bootstrap.

[SnoBorderZero]

Nothing is more unappealing than a prequel, why do we need unnecessary backstory to a franchise that isn't even good? The first one was great, the sequels were absolute crap. This is just Disney milking the only thing outside of Pixar it has going for it.

[quiksilver022]

Honestly, no matter how ****ty the script is, I will definitely see it. The 'Pirates' movies are the epitome of summer movie going for me, and it's A+ popcorn entertainment.

[DarthVader 2004]

They can only get better for there is No Will and ELizabeth this time to hog all the screen time. Face it the really good key too success here is Depp and Rush.

[sshuttari]

That's True I really didn't like Liz and Will... This time it should just be Sparrow and we should only see him as the main character.

That is the right formula and if the story is right... The film might be the best one of the series.

Also no prequel I really hate that formula a lot. Ever since the Star Wars prequels it's some how okay to go back in a series...

[DarthVader 2004]

Don't diss a Pirates prequel for it has a lot potential too be more like a Pirates 1 for a sequel would include past 2 mistakes and we wanna fresh look not a contenuence of 3.
Too be honest feel DMC was actually good its Just Pirates 3 failed to be as impressive except for Jack , Davy Jones and Barbossa. They did there Parts well did Bill, Johnny and Geoffrey.

I do think Jack needs a kind of serious person too play off of. Jack was funnies by the person he was playing off of. Will and Barbossa we great for his comedy too play off of and he needs that character and maybe someone like Annamaria in this one.

[sshuttari]

Going back sucks it always has and it always will....

[Jordan KO]

it says its a sequel that will look at Jacks background, at least thats what i got from this article. like faces from his past popping up

[casablanca3]

As long as it is Depp, I can't wait! But isn't he filming Dark Shadows next year? Can't see him wanting to do both. This probably comes out in 2012 like they always though.

[MovieBuff801]

I'm one of the few who thoroughly enjoyed all three Pirates films, so this news gets me psyched! I agree with Quicksilver in that all three are great summer entertainments; to me, the movies never get old.

I did rather like the "weirdness" of the two sequels, such as all the Davy Jones/Flying Dutchman mythology, but I admit it is rather encouraging that they'll be getting back to the basics of COTBP for this fourth movie. The first movie was terriffic, but I think I like the 3rd installment the most.

I can't wait to see where they take the story.

[MasterChief117]

Yeah, I tried watching the last two and I'm pretty sure I fell asleep. It was just too much. The only good parts of the last two movies was seeing Keira Knightley wet, beyond that it was meh. The first one was pretty good in my opinion. The action and humor bounced off each other pretty good.

[Ewok Droppings]

AWE was really bad. I like DMC a lot, but AWE just fell flat for me. I hope they can make it better and get back to something decent. AWE was along the lines of the Matrix sequels IMO.

[MovieBuff801]

Yeah, I tried watching the last two and I'm pretty sure I fell asleep. It was just too much. The only good parts of the last two movies was seeing Keira Knightley wet, beyond that it was meh. The first one was pretty good in my opinion. The action and humor bounced off each other pretty good.

No arguments about Keira Knightley being wet and the action/humor, but fell asleep? Really?

[Drizzt240]

Any horror than this.

[jbailey84]

Yeah, they did go from great to really bad, but I'm hoping they figure it out for the 4th installment. I liked Dead Man's Chest, but At World's End was pretty crappy. agreed.

I wonder if they will pick up where they left off with the last one - The Fountain of Youth. hope so.

my sister told me something that she heard Orlando Bloom doesn't want to do a fourth. i would rather see more of Sparrow. i think it would be cool to see Sparrow search for the Fountain of Youth, possibly a new crew, maybe a few familiar faces.

[IanTheCool]

It has a titles. Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. And will be released in the summer of '11.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/d23exponews.php?id=59033

[MovieBuff801]

Can't f**king wait! And if the story really comes from the book "On Stranger Tides", it sounds intriguing!

[jbailey84]

care to give some input about the book?

[Naite22]

Whoopi-****ing-doo!.... The Pirates movies should have ended with the third! They might as well just call this new one "The adventures of Jack Sparrow"! He's the only reason to see these flicks, and YOU ALL KNOW IT!

[DarthVader 2004]

Yes ofcourse but they are good entertainment but where they gonna put this movie in summer 2011.

[halo7]

I am interested/excited. 2/3 of the Pirates movies were good and the third was actually pretty decent in my opinion (save a few of the stupider plot points...looking at you giant voodoo woman). I expect they will put the focus on Sparrow or a new main character since Will's storyline is pretty much over. Hopefully putting all of their energy and concentration into a single movie will help in the long-run.

[MovieBuff801]

care to give some input about the book?

http://http://www.comingsoon.net/news/d23exponews.php?id=59033

Like I said, if this 4th film is an adaptation of this book, it should be interesting. I've always been fascinated by piracy and nautical lore/mythology, hence part of the reason why I love these movies so much.

[Ewok Droppings]

I'm cautiously optimistic for this one. AWE was so bad - fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...

[jbailey84]

yea i agree about AWE, just terrible. i honestly think DMC is the best.

[sshuttari]

The first is the only good one in my book.

[MovieBuff801]

Personally, AWE is my favorite of the three, but I'm well aware I'm in the minority (or perhaps AM the minority) on that one.

[Naite22]

The problem is they went full on trilogy with these movies, because it's become so trendy. They should have made the movies seperate from each other, with a new simple story each time - just like the first (and the best) was it's own movie. Just like the indiana jones movies are seperate from each other. but no, they had to go matrix on them; dumb movie.

[sshuttari]

The problem is they went full on trilogy with these movies, because it's become so trendy. They should have made the movies seperate from each other, with a new simple story each time - just like the first (and the best) was it's own movie. Just like the indiana jones movies are seperate from each other. but no, they had to go matrix on them; dumb movie.

More like they had to go "Lord of the Rings" on em... Ever since those movies it seems like people want to make continuing stories with no end...

[DarthVader 2004]

Hey man the Rings movies ended nicely and the Hobbit was a story before LOTR so thats why ist being told. And lets face it most men as boys were either CowboYS and Indians. Cops and Robbers. James Bond or Pirates.

[sshuttari]

yet only Rings have succeeded and others have failed. Any film that films back to back has not lived up to the hype. Matrix sequels, Pirate sequels...

Well see how Harry Potter 7 will turn out...

[southern]

2 & 3 sucked, I won't be bothering to see 4.

[MasterChief117]

I thought the first one was pretty great, it was exactly what everyone wanted out of a Pirates movie. The second one slowly drifted off became too long and highly overrated. I still consider it 'watchable'. At World's End makes me doubt my humanity. When I watch that I want to kill small children. The plot is stupid, slow and the pacing is incredibly bad. I doubt I'll see the fourth one unless dragged to it by the parents. Keira Knightley was the best part of the last two and she's not even going to be in it. :(

[Tolkien]

yet only Rings have succeeded and others have failed. Any film that films back to back has not lived up to the hype. Matrix sequels, Pirate sequels...

We'll see how Harry Potter 7 will turn out...
Well Potter is different. They aren't shooting two sequels back-2-back, they're shooting just one movie then cutting it in two when they're finished.

[EdReedFan20]

Well Potter is different. They aren't shooting two sequels back-2-back, they're shooting just one movie then cutting it in two when they're finished.

Also, the Potter movies are not made from scratch. They have the well-written books as their main source of story and plot. POTC was made from taking an amusment park ride with little to no story and made a trilogy out of it. Personally, I too would've liked to see each movie as a separate adventure.

[MovieBuff801]

Or at least have them conceive a trilogy story from the get-go, and not rush it when the 2nd movie goes into production. I think that's what anyone wanting to do a trilogy should do.

[Ewok Droppings]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=59407

MTV talked to Geoffrey Rush who says he's ready to reprise his role of Barbossa in Spring 2010 for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. The fourth installment is scheduled to be released in Summer 2011.

He said: "They're waiting for the screenplay writers to put together something that's beyond the trilogy, take it off into a new direction so that it's fresh and hopefully really interesting for an audience, that they're not going to just sausage-machine out something else, which wouldn't be so good."

I hope they stick with the idea of creating something new. Anything besides the track they left off on with AWE.

[jbailey84]

yea create something new but still keep the idea of the fountain of youth would be cool

[Tolkien]

While I really liked the "idea" of the Fountain of Youth, I agree that a new direction is needed.

[Matrix_Fan]

I enjoyed all three films, so I'm open for a fourth. Will and Elizabeth's story has pretty much run its course, so any chance of either of them returning is slim. A entire movie with Jack and Barbossa doing what they do best sounds like a fun time.

[Tolkien]

Actually, doesn't the end of AWE officially end Will and Elizabeth's storyline?

[Matrix_Fan]

Pretty much, unless Disney feels like having the film take place in between the 10 years that Will serves aboard the Dutchman.

[Ewok Droppings]

Well, it's not like Jack Sparrow didn't die in the second one only to come back in the third. So...

[Tolkien]

Jack's character change from film to film is one of the things that bothered me.

He goes from being Crazy Jack, to Paranoid Jack, to Hallucinogenic Jack, lmao.

[jbailey84]

i hope they keep will and elizabeth out of the next film.

[Deexan]

A couple of cameos would be acceptable.

[Tolkien]

Well maybe Will because it would make sense, seeing as how he's the new Dutchman captain and all, but certainly NOT Elizabeth. I really disliked her in the second and especially third films.

[Naite22]

**** off Pirates!!! overated UNintelligent CRAP!!!!

Make a spin-off of the adventures of Jack Sparrow, and maybe I'll watch it! Without Depp, Pirates can go straight to hell!!!!!!!!

[jbailey84]

A couple of cameos would be acceptable.

yea im down for cameos, love em.

Well maybe Will because it would make sense, seeing as how he's the new Dutchman captain and all, but certainly NOT Elizabeth. I really disliked her in the second and especially third films.

keep Will out. it would mess up the whole "10 year deal". just have it be right after AWE like by a few months or somethin.

[Deexan]

Spanner in the works:

Johnny Depp to quit next Pirates?

(UKPA) – 6 days ago

Johnny Depp has cast doubt over whether he is still keen to play Captain Jack Sparrow in the fourth Pirates Of The Caribbean movie.

The Hollywood star called the Los Angeles Times to reveal he was "shocked and very sad" at the sudden departure of Disney chairman, Dick Cook, and implied is not as keen to appear in the film with Cook no longer being part of the company.

Depp said: "There's a fissure, a crack in my enthusiasm at the moment... it was all born in that office."

Referring to Cook, the actor revealed: "He said, 'We're thinking about doing this Pirates Of The Caribbean movie,' I said I was in. This was before there was a script or anything.

"When things went a little sideways on the first Pirates movie and others at the studio were less than enthusiastic about my interpretation of the character, Dick was there from the first moment. He trusted me."

He added that while some Disney executives were "opposed to my body language," Cook "was completely supportive of me."

At the Disney D23 Expo last week, Cook and Johnny Depp - in full Jack Sparrow costume - announced the new title for Pirates four, Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and revealed part of the plot that Captain Jack will set off in search of the Fountain Of Youth.

But the deal is only apparently in place provisionally, quality of the script depending, so Depp is not yet fully committed.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5g424SsCxuGDTNAme-9EeobQEUHkw

[Naite22]

^ They're doomed if Depp doesn't play Jack Sparrow in this fourth installment! He's the only reason to watch them.

[Diablo]

Yeah, there is no point in doing another Pirates if Depp wants out.

[Adamantium82]

Did they get a name for the forth one yet, wonder if it's going to be about the fountian of youth?

[Ewok Droppings]

read the posts above - name and plot details included.

If Depp is out of a 4th installment, I don't see any reason to bother with it. Maybe make some spinoff that goes straight to DVD, but a large production - no way.

[Diablo]

Penelope Cruz Joining Pirates of the Caribbean
Source:Heat Vision
February 10, 2010



Penelope Cruz is in negotiations to join Johnny Depp in the Rob Marshall-directed Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, reports Heat Vision.

Scheduled for a release on May 20, 2011, the fourth installment revolves around the Fountain of Youth. Depp is reprising the role of Captain Jack Sparrow and Cruz's character is expected to be "Sparrow's foil and equal in many ways."

The Jerry Bruckheimer-produced film was written by Terry Rossio and Ted Elliot. Shooting will take place in Hawaii this summer.

Cruz starred in Marshall's last film, Nine.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63187

[Deexan]

So....Sparrow's mrs or sister?

[MovieBuff801]

Not sure what to think about Cruz in a Pirates film, but I'm still excited for it. I got the book On Stranger Tides (which this film is based on) for Christmas and plan on reading it soon.

[Fresh Prince]

Why are they making a 4th film?

[DarthVader 2004]

Because the realized that Barbossa and Sparrow were worth doing a story around and loosing Will and Elizabeth for new characters to make it fresher will help the next stories greatly.
For me new characters like Davy Jones and Sao Feng made the films better in there scenes but will and liz made the films drag.

[Dhamon22]

I'm glad Keira Knightley and Orlando Bloom are out. I might watch the new one.

[pixiness]

I agree with movie buff and vader on this - the movies were entertaining (all of them) and with will and liz gone, it's got nowhere to go but up. I'm looking very forward to this

[Fresh Prince]

So bascially it will be a new trilogy.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Yeah. The movies were always about Jack Sparrow and his adventures imo.

[Fresh Prince]

Jack Sparrow is the best.

[Deexan]

Ian McShane ("Deadwood") is in negotiations to play the villain Blackbeard in Walt Disney Pictures' Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, to be directed by Rob Marshall.

The Hollywood Reporter says McShane will play the legendary pirate--whose real name was Edward Teach--who piloted the ship Queen Anne's Revenge.

McShane will join Johnny Depp, reprising his role of Captain Jack Sparrow, and Penelope Cruz, Sparrow's foil and equal in many ways, in a story that revolves around the Fountain of Youth.

Terry Rossio and Ted Elliot wrote the script for the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced film.

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides is scheduled for a May 20, 2011 release.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63528

I guess there won't be as much of a reliance on cgi for this one seeing as it's due for release in less than 15 months.

[DarthVader 2004]

Does anyone know if Rush is returning for without Barbossa it wouldn't be the same

[Ewok Droppings]

^^ Yes, Rush Limbaugh is confirmed in an epic battle against Keith Olbermann for this one.

[DarthVader 2004]

Ha ha i take this seriously for am a fan.

[todd philip]

Ian McShane is a AWESOME casting choice! I hope Keith Richards returns to!

[sshuttari]

Pirates 2 and 3 are really bad films. Hopefully the 4th entry can turn the franchise around...

[MovieBuff801]

Interesting casting choices thus far, although I would've never thought of McShane. I'm still optimistic about this film, it's sounding awesome thus far.

[Ewok Droppings]

I liked DMC but AWE was awful. I hope they break the downward spiral of the series with this one.

[DarthVader 2004]

Well the low parts in AWE was when they had to cut to what Elizabeth and Wills story was away from Jack and Barbossa. They made Will and Liz first and Jack second and in Pirates 1 we know Jack was the main person but they goofed and made it a soap opera out of Awe and some of DMC

[Ewok Droppings]

The low points of AWE were from the opening to the closing credits.

[MovieBuff801]

Well the low parts in AWE was when they had to cut to what Elizabeth and Wills story was away from Jack and Barbossa. They made Will and Liz first and Jack second and in Pirates 1 we know Jack was the main person but they goofed and made it a soap opera out of Awe and some of DMC

Actually, Will and Elizabeth were always the center of the trilogy. Jack just fit into the equation afterwards.

[DarthVader 2004]

Yes but it was the wrong focus point and most fans like Barbossa and Jack not Will and Liz

[Deexan]

I thought the 3rd was superior to the 2nd, if only for the visual spectacle.

Giant sea Goddess notwithstanding.

[ribonzz]

Well if only depp is signing up, how could the movie can be made?

[Deexan]

In February, we learned that both Ian McShane and Penelope Cruz were joining Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. It was reported that McShane would play the villain Blackbeard, but it wasn't clear which role Cruz would take on.

In talking with MTV, producer Jerry Bruckheimer revealed that Cruz is playing Blackbeard's daughter. "She's the daughter of the bad guy," he said. You can expect "a little romance between Captain Jack and the new character that Penelope plays." He said "she brings a lot of humor to it. And the fact that she's so feisty."

Bruckheimer added that Blackbeard is "the nastiest pirate ever."

The producer also confirmed that Geoffrey Rush, who played Barbossa in the first three "Pirates" films, is indeed returning.

As for more roles to be cast, Bruckheimer said they they are "looking for some new kids to be in it, we're testing right now."

Asked how different this film will be, he said "we're going to take a whole new direction," but he did mention that "it is a continuation of what you saw last time, he's in search for the Fountain of Youth."

The Rob Marshall-directed film is scheduled to start filming in June for a May 20, 2011 release.

Good news about Rush.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=64428

[DarthVader 2004]

There was no doubt for Rush is as big a Pirates success reason as Jack. But i do hope the old crew comes back. For can't have a pirates movies without Gibbs telling some type pf tale in it about someone.

[Neverending]

So, Jack Sparrow is finally getting laid in these movies.

[New GL of sector 2814]

It's about time, lol

[Neverending]

Yeah, Jack Sparrow is a playa. Gotta get that booty and then get slapped the next day.

"I don't think I deserved that."

[sshuttari]

I think the relationship between Liz and Sparrow would have been way more entertaining then what we in the previous films.

[DarthVader 2004]

Liz is not for Jack for she is too ruthless and cause trouble wherever she goes.

I was thinking we should restart the trilogy forums again for With new Spider-Man and Pirates Of The Caribbean and even Star Trek and HP.

It was easier for me with the old format then one forum for all movies.

[Neverending]

I was thinking we should restart the trilogy forums again for With new Spider-Man and Pirates Of The Caribbean and even Star Trek and HP.

I miss the seperate forums as much as the next guy, but there isn't enough activity here for that. This place has been pretty dead since like 2006 or 2007.

[DarthVader 2004]

I figure its because about the same time made changes and well people can rub people the wrong way and not mean too as well.

[Sean B.]

Hello,
I'm new here!. I've never used these forums here on comingsoon.net!. I was wondering if anyone here heard that Penelope Cruz has arrived at the LAX airport???, and is officially getting ready to star in Pirates 4, as Blackbeards daugter named "Angelica", has anyone heard about this yet???. Also, Pirates 4 starts filming on June 14th, 2010, which is in about 11 days from now!. I bet we're gonna all end up seeing a teaser trailer for Pirates 4 in december 2010, because they'll be finished with filming Pirates 4 by november 18th, 2010. Originally they were gonna be filming Pirates 4 from June 7th, to november 11 this year, but now it's going to be filming from June 14th, to November 18th, 2010 !!!!!. Did anyone here about that yet???.

[Sean B.]

I think there there will be a Teaser Trailer for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides on the internet and in theaters, on the same day that the other disney movie arrives to theaters called Tron Legacy!!!. It'll probably be showing in the theaters that Tron Legacy will be showing in, right before each showing of Tron Legacy in each of the theaters showing both the teaser trailer for Pirates 4 and the Tron Legacy movie together, and of course, they would show the Pirates 4 teaser trailer before, they show the Tron Legacy movie in each theater showing both of them together, in the order of it being the trailer being shown first, and then the movie next right after that!. I bet that, thats whats gonna happen when Tron Legacy comes out on December 17th, 2010 Friday!!!!!. That day could'nt come here soon enough!, I Can't Wait!!!!!=).

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I've heard lots of rumors that the OST teaser will play before Tron. What an awesome Christmas present that will be for us POTC geeks! Also, thanks for the info about Penelope at LAX: I hadn't heard that, but knowing she's on her way to start shooting just makes me more and more excited.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, it will definately be an amazing christmas present to see Pirates 4's teaser trailer in the theaters and on the internet, when Tron Legacy gets released to theaters!=), and i totally can't wait to see it either!:omg: . Also, yes Penelope Cruz is on her way, to get to where she needs to be ready for being in Pirates 4, or she she might even already be there!:).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
I thought i'd show you these two website links thats are to one website that has two webpages on there, regarding dvd/blu ray releae dates for most or all the upcoming disney movies, here they are --> http://www.dvdizzy.com/disneybluraylist.html ,and here is the other one which is --> http://www.dvdizzy.com/disneydvdschedule.html

*To go to those websites, highlight the link then left click it, then click the little arrow, then find and use a search engine from there to see them, or in other words, to get to them!. If they don't work, or it does not take you to what i wanted to show you, let me know and i will re-type on here for you to get to see them!.

[CJSFan]

Sean and Angelica,
It has been CONFIRMED that Stephen Graham has been cast as "Scram". Ok, I know that we already knew that he was going to be cast(it was even on the Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides cast list on ComingSoon), but yesterday, it's OFFICIALLY confirmed(meaning it's 150% TRUE)!!! =D Here's the link http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2010/06/03/stephen-graham-joins-pirates-of-the-caribbean-4-cast/
Also, we learn a little more about his character in this article.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
So from what i read in that article there, he plays like Jack Sparrows sidekick or some like that then???. I wonder if that means, that there will be a love interest for his character "Scram", where scram would be like the new William Turner type and a new "yet to be decided" actress, is going to be his love intrest, kind of like William Turner and Elizabeth Swann from Pirates 1, 2 and 3???:confused:. I had a feeling that they would put a new couple in Pirates 4 to replace orlando bloom and keira knighley, since they were not coming back in Pirates 4 !!! :rolleyes:.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I searched around that site and found a description for On Stranger Tides: everytime I read something about it I just get more and more excited!!!!!!!!!

CJS Fan,

I just read the news about Scram this morning: I KNEW he was going to be a new sidekick for our favorite captain. I think Jack probably will meet him when he goes to London because Stephen Graham is British and it would make sense if his character was too.

Also guys, I read on pirates.wikia.com that Megan Fox is in negotiations to star in On Stranger Tides, and when I checked the source the wikia cited it said at the bottom of the article that the producers "did not wish to comment at this time", which usually means its true!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and I thought you might be interested in seeing a snapshot of one of the new ships that'll be in OST (could it be the Queen Ann's Revenge?!?!?!?!?!): check it out here http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEFNNMIInUKUKJ.

On a hillarious note, as I type this Keith Richards just showed up on the talk show I'm watching. He looks awesome: I can't wait to see him as Teague again (hopefully in a BIGGER ROLE!!!!!).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i know about Megan Fox possibly being in Pirates 4, and i had a feeling that she would be in Pirates 4, that is cool news!=), i bet she'll look interesting as a mermaid, if that what shes going to be in Pirates 4 !!!. Also, yes that is probably the Queen Ann's Revenge, but to be honest with you, it does look alot like the Black Pearl after a paint job, that was started but then was stopped at some point!. I saw keith richards on the talk show too, and i also can't wait to see him again as jacks dad Captain Teague!.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I think the very fact we're getting ANY snapshots at this point is a good sign of what we might get as soon as filming actually begins!!! And I wonder how they'll factor in Teague into this movie... maybe he helps Jack against Blackbeard?

[CJSFan]

Sean,
Actually, I was thinking that Scram would be like one of the crewman of the Pearl that is here for comic reasons(like Pintel and Ragetti in the previous films). The only person "I" think that would have a love interest in Pirates 4 is Jack(with Angelica).

Angelica Teach,
I don't know about London, they MIGHT do that, considering the only KNOWN setting of Pirates 4(in the film, not in real life), is Florida. So they might make it to where they meet in London(or somewhere in the Caribbean, depends where the story for Pirates 4 is suppose to take place).
As for the pirates.wikia.com, I am the one who put that information in there(I am a user in there). And yes, the fact that the producers didn't wish to comment DID sound likely that it's true(because of it "being a secret").
And about that ship in the snapshot you showed, that's actually the "Sunset", the ship that played the BLACK PEARL(in Pirates 2 and 3). But in that snapshot, they're probably making it into Blackbeard's ship(I don't know, that's what I've heard from you and a few other people). The only thing I regret about that is, the Sunset won't play the Pearl in Pirates 4(I just hope it won't make a HUGE difference in the film).
As for Keith Richards, yes I can't wait to see him either, and did he talk at all about Pirates 4(in that talk show you mentioned)?

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
I couldn't agree with more about the snapshots of the ship!, it is definately is a good sign, it's a very very good sign, if you ask me!. Also, yes, maybe Captain Teague does help against Blackbeard, i don't see why he actually wouldn't!.

[Angelica Teach]

CJS Fan,

I was hoping Keith would talk about OST, but he was there to promote the rerelease of one of the Stones' classic albulms so it didn't get mentioned. Also, I read on my On Stranger Tides Facebook group that some of the filming for OST will be in St. Ives, England, which is where I think the carriage chase scene will be filmed???

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
I think you might be right about the character "Scram", that would be like a comic type of character in Pirates 4, like Pintel and Ragetti in Pirates 1, 2 and 3 !.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I hope we get new pix every day from now until filming is completed! Also, since we're speculating, maybe Teague, being a pirate lord, used to know Blackbeard or have some sort of association with him, and that's how Jack and Angelica met and became lovers originally (remember Bruckheimer said they had been in a relationship before POTC and it didn't "end well").

[Angelica Teach]

Oh and I totally agree about Scram: they probably brought him in since Pintel and Ragetti aren't coming back. I think the new couple replacing Willabeth will be Jack and Angelica!!!! I wonder if the shippers will start calling them "Jackelica" or something like that.....

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i hope so too, that we'll be getting more pictures, that would be awesome to get to see! =). Yes, i do remeber that, what had bruckheimer said about Jack and Angelica, that is very interesting information to keep in mind for Pirates 4, like fore when go and it finally in 11 months from now!=). I am starting to wonder what Penelope Cruz will look like as Angelica in her outfit for Pirates 4!!!, what exactly do you think she'll look like???, or are you not sure yet???.

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
I have to correct you on 2 things:
1. Teague USE to be the Pirate Lord of Madagascar(it was in Pirates.wikia.com). He is now(and at Pirates 3), "Keeper to the Code"(which is why he can unlock the Pirate Code book).
2. No one confirmed that Pintel AND Ragetti aren't coming back. The only thing that has been confirmed about Pintel and Ragetti in Pirates 4, is that the guy who played Ragetti(Mackenzie Crook), confirmed that he didn't want to come back to spend time with his family(as said on Wikia, which I made sure is true). Also, Lee Arenburg(the guy who played Pintel), hasn't said anything about NOT being in Pirates 4. So it's likely that Pintel will return(someone just has to confirm if he comes back or not).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
That was a good idea for them to have the character Scram in Pirates 4, since Pintel and Ragetti are not going to be in Pirates 4, i agree!. So you think Jack and Angelica will be like the new William and Elizabeth???. That is a very funny name you thought of for Jack and Angelica, i laughed when i read that what you said "Jackelica", or how about this name???, "Jackela"??? how about that for their names being put together as one???=).

[Angelica Teach]

CJS Fan,

Thank you for the info on Teague (I knew he was a Lord at one point but I got confused about whether he still was in addition to being the keeper of the code). Also I know that Pintel and Ragetti not coming back isn't 100% confirmed yet, but I think I remember reading on Wikipedia or another site that Lee Arenberg stated at a convention that he would not be coming back as Pintel. Again I know this might change, but I can't help but think its unlikely considering how close we are to shooting day and they haven't been added to the cast officially.

Sean,

Considering Penelope's Spanish and there's BOUND to be a big Latin theme in the movie (its set in Florida, which used to be controlled by the Spanish, and Bruckheimer said that some Spanish pirates are coming after the fountain), I think there's a pretty good chance that they might put her in some awesome Spanishy flavored outfits to contrast with the rest of the characters' clothing.

[Angelica Teach]

Oh and Sean: "Jackela" = hillarious:lol:

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Can you believe it?, it's now only 10 Days until they start filming Pirates 4, on June 14th!. And oh!, i see what you ment about the spanish clothing for Penelope Cruz's character "Angelica". You have a point there about her having on spanish clothing for Pirates 4 and concidering she is spanish, and yes your right about that too!.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,

Yes, i know!, "Jackela", all i can say about that is --> "MUAHAHAHAHA!!!" ;-) ,because that really is a very funny name!=).

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
It's ok, at least you know now about Teague(although he is AWESOME as Keeper of the Code, as shown in Pirates 3). And the thing on Wikipedia(about Lee Arenburg confirming that he was NOT coming back), that particular information was false(I deleted it as soon as I found out it was false). And I'm not saying they're NOT coming back, I'm just saying we should wait BEFORE they say they're not coming back(to say they're not coming back). But I would like to say I hope Ragetti doesn't come back to Pirates 4(because NO ONE can play Ragetti as good as Mackenzie Crook, and I do NOT want to see anyone else play him, except for Mackenzie himself).

Sean,
I hope the Black Pearl will look, as it looked like in the previous films(even though the Sunset won't portray the Pearl in Pirates 4). Because it was hard trying to accept that the Black Pearl wasn't going to be played by the Sunset in Pirates 4(considering the paintjob of the Pearl they're currently doing in Hawaii).

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

It feels so surreal, that there are only 10 days until shooting begins. I remember finding out that the 4th movie was going ahead the December before last, and now here we are right before the commencement of shooting. It feels like its been FOREVER since At World's End came out: I don't know how I'm going to last another year.

[CJSFan]

Oh and I know, we got 10 days left, I can't believe it!!! I'm so excited B-)

[Angelica Teach]

CJS Fan,

Maybe Lee might come back even if Mackenzie doesnt???? I doubt the producers would be stupid enough to try and replace Mackenzie if he doesn't come back: NO ONE could play that part like him. IDK I guess we just have to wait and see.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
I think the paint job they did on the Black Pearl to play another ship is interesting!!!, isn't there going to be barge used to be the Black Pearl in Pirates 4???.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
I couldn't agree with you more about how long it's been since we found out Pirates 4 !. I wish it would be filmed already and released, so that we all could just go and see it already!, know what i mean?. Oh, and i have an estimated guess on when i think Pirates 4 will be released to dvd and blu ray after its been released to theaters, which would be exactly on December 6th, 2011 Tuesday!, does that sound to you like a possible dvd/blu ray release date for Pirates 4, after its been released to theaters???.

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, as long as they don't ruin what Mackenzie Crook and Lee Arenburg have created for the POTC films(the characters Pintel and Ragetti), then I'm good.

Sean,
Don't get me wrong, I like what they did to the Sunset(the paint job and all that), they made it look(in my opinion), even BETTER than the Flying Dutchman as the enemy pirate ship. The only thing I'm concerned about is what the Black Pearl will look like in Pirates 4(when you see it sail on the ocean or do battle with another ship). And I don't know if they're using a barge or not(no one has confirmed anything yet). But I just hope the Pearl looks as good as it did in the previous films(you know?).

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Yes, i do agree with you about the way they made the Sunset look, does look better then the Flying Dutchman!. I think the black pear will look great in the movie for sure!. I guess we'll find out more soon, if there will be a barge used in the movie, there probably will be, im sure!. I do think that the Black Pearl will definately look as good as it did in the previous films, i'm not too worried about that!, but i do understand why your concerned!.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I could definitely see the producers making an early December release date for the DVD because it would be right before Christmas and people would go into a frenzy to buy it as gifts!


CJS Fan,

I'm really hoping they don't mess around with the "look" of the Pearl too much. It's actually almost a Pirates character in its own right, if you know what I mean: they need to stay true to its original design. I guess we'll know more in a few days.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
The reason i think its coming out on dvd and blu ray on December 6th, 2011 Tuesday, is because the first movie came to dvd on december 2nd, 2003 tuesday, the second movie came out to dvd and blu ray on december 5th, 2006 tuesday, and then the third movie came out to dvd and blu ray disc on december 4th, 2007 tuesday, so that is why i think Pirates 4 is coming to dvd and blu ray on december 6th, 2011 tesday!. Do you see there how each of the POTC movies came out at the begining of each of the those decembers those years that the Pirates of the caribbean movies came out in???.

[CJSFan]

Sean,
Thank you for understanding my concern. Because making the Pearl a lot different from what it looked like before is like recasting Johnny Depp in the POTC films(which I hope will NEVER happen in the future). But, I have to trust the makers of the films to make sure the Pearl stays the way it was in the previous films(at least, by the way it looks, if you know what I mean).

Angelica Teach,
I agree about the Pearl being "its own right" in being a POTC character. And I hope it stays the way it was in the previous films. Except this time, we don't know what object will portray the Pearl: We don't know if they will use a barge(like they did with Pirates 1), and the Sunset(which portrayed the Pearl in Pirates 2 & 3) is redesigned to look like another ship(which we are guessing is the Queen Anne's Revenge).
So, I hope the Pearl doesn't change(at least by the way it looks). But I have to hand it to the people who did the paint job on the Sunset(on the pics on Movieweb.com), it does look like an AWESOME pirate ship(hopefully it is the Queen Anne's Revenge).

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

There's definitely a pattern there: the first Tuesday of December for the DVD release. In all likelihood they'll probably stick to that routine and release the DVD December 6, 2011. I know that as soon as I get my hands on it I'm going to explore EVERY SINGLE featurette there is on the bonus disk like I did for the first three (that's half the fun of the DVD!!!).

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Sure, no problem!=). I highly doubt they'd ever recast Johnny Depp in the future for any Pirates movie, after Pirates 4 !. And yes, i know about you mean about the the Black Pearl.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yeah, me too!. I will also be exploring all the features of the Blu Ray of Pirates 4, when it gets released on dvd and Blu Ray!. I hope though that the blu ray release of it will have a dvd copy of it, and a digital copy and any special features disc too, if thats possible!.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

^? Is this a chatroom now?

[Sean B.]

King of Skid Row,

Yeah, i guess you could call this a chatroom "sorta speak!". What do you mean where the losers roam?, i guess since you commented here too, you just called yourself a loser!;-), but no, none of us here are losers, so if you want to talk to losers, they are not here on this websites chat room, also this isn't a chat room, its a forum for a movie website!, not a general chatroom, sorry dude!=/.

[bbf2]

What in the holy hell is going on with this thread? I feel like I'm in the movie "Identity."

[Angelica Teach]

CJS Fan,

If I hadn't read that they changed the ships that played the Black Pearl between Pirates 1 and 2, I never would have known the difference, so in all likelihood they'll give us a Pearl in pirates 4 that looks just the same. I'm just happy we're getting any set photos at all at this point, considering they haven't even started shooting the movie yet.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan, Angelica Teach,
Have you both found out any new information about Pirates 4, since we talked on here last night???, i'm just wondering =).

[Sean B.]

CJSFan, Angelica Teach,
I forgot to tell you both about this last night, that i recently e-mailed the concept artist of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and asked him when will his concept art be released on the internet, and he said that on his website called "milesteves.com" , he will release his Pirates 4 concept art, when it is finished, i think that would mean that soon, it'll be released on his website, and the rest of internet "movie websites"!. Maybe when they've started or finished the filming of the movie would most likely be when it'll be released!!!. Oh, and he also said that there is concept art too that he did for the character Blackbeard in Pirates 4 also!.

[Ramplate]

Mars,

Send the mother ship :P
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/ramplate/PinkAnt.gif

[Sean B.]

Ramplate,

Thanks, but No Thanks!, for your post!. sorry!=/. Let's keep it "POTC Talk" over here o.k.?.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

That's really cool news about the concept art! I'll be sure to keep an eye on that website you mentioned to see when it gets released. I haven't gotten any more news so far today (just a rehashing that Stephen Graham's been cast, which I dont' understand cause we've known that for MONTHS already).

Oh and Sean, ignore the trolls. They have nothing better to do than to try and cyber-bully people they don't even know. We've done nothing wrong and we can post as we please as long as we stay within the line.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yeah, i have have milesteves.com on my favorites!, i'm also keeping an eye out for Pirates 4's concept art on there too!=). I'm thinking that when it was just announced again yesturday about Stephen Graham, i think that was like an official confirmation that he was indeed going to be in Pirates 4, unlike the time before when he was first mentioned about, it was only said that he been added, but not confirmed that first time he was mentioned about starring in Pirates 4 !, right?.

[Angelica Teach]

Yeah I guess they're making a big deal about it now cause the producers are finally admitting it (even tho everyone technically already knew for ages).

As I reread Stranger Tides, I noticed that one of the pirate captain's names was "Philip Davies". I wonder if there's any connection between him and the missionary "Philip" Sam Claflin's going to play??

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, I hope the Pearl is the same as it was in the previous films(I mean by the look of it). I know that they probably won't use the Sunset as the Pearl for Pirates 4, but I hope the Pearl will look like it was in the previous films(you know what I mean?). And it'll be a while before the Stephen Graham stuff goes away, because it was an OFFICIAL confirmation of him being in Pirates 4(like Sean said).

Sean,
NO WAY! You actually emailed someone from the POTC 4 crew? That's cool! And are you positive that the website is called "milesteves.com"? Because I think I wanna keep that on my Favorites too.

Ok, since Sean revealed that he emailed someone from Pirates 4, I probably have to reveal something I may have kept quiet about. I emailed Terry Rossio(the writer of the POTC films).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i know about the Trolls here!, they have nothing else better to do then burst into a conversation, that their not even involved in!. Also, yeah if you keep an eye out on that website that i told you about, there will eventually be concept art on there at some unknown point in time from Pirates 4 !, but it will be there because that is the official website of concept artist of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides! =). Miles Teves himself "the concept artist" , e-mailed me back saying it will be on his website there soon!, which was when i e-mailed him to ask him about it! =). I can't wait to see it!, how about you Angelica Teach???. I bet it'll look really really cool !=) .

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Yes!, i e-mailed the concept artist from Pirates 4, and he replied back to me saying that his concept art for Pirates 4 will be up on there soon!=). Yes, i'm 100% positive that the website is milesteves.com. You e-mailed terry rossio???, did he reply back to you yet???, if he did, what did he say about Pirates 4???. Please give us all the details on his reply!, I'd love to know what he said on his e-mail reply! =).

[CJSFan]

Sean,
I'm not sure if you remember me telling you this(or I probably forgot to tell you). Did I tell you that I knew that Blackbeard was going to first appear as a LIVE Blackbeard instead first appearing as a spirit?

[Angelica Teach]

CJS Fan,

OMG HOW DID YOU EVEN GET HIS EMAIL???? Dude that is AWESOME!!! Has he replied to you? If not let us know as soon as he does please!

Sean,

I loved the concept art I saw for the first three pirate films, I've been looking everywhere for any images for OST but so far nothing's been released yet. I'm going to add the site you mentioned to my favorites too.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Yes, you told me about that. I think you told me before that he'll appear first as a live Blackbeard, then he'll die, then he comes back as a spirit or ghost, right?.

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
Well, as I've said before, I am a user at "Pirates.wikia.com", and that website has thousands(maybe millions) of sources. One of which is a website called "Wordplayer.com", which Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio are the MAIN people of the website. And I found their emails(actually, I think only Terry Rossio's email), in the website and asked him like 1 or 2 questions about Pirates 4(one of which was important to "Pirates.wikia.com").

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes i loved the concept art for the first three movies too!. Oh!, o.k, so you put the website on your favorites too???, cool !!!=).

[CJSFan]

Sean,
Right, well, I sorta learned THAT from him. Because I was concerned about that because of constant talk about Blackbeard being a spirit in Pirates 4(in Pirates Wiki). You see, there was a POTC comic that came out around when the Pirates 1 was released called "THE BUCCANEER'S HEART!"(and the setting of the comic was around the time that Pirates 1 happened). And in that comic, it said that Blackbeard was a spirit(in that comic that takes place around Pirates 1). But, since Blackbeard was ALIVE in the On Stranger Tides novel, I was thinking that he was going to be ALIVE in Pirates 4. So I said he was going to be a live character in the film, but no one believed me(because of the comic). So, I emailed Terry Rossio, and he emailed me back(a week later), and said "The comic has nothing to do with the movie franchise". So, I took it that Blackbeard was going to be ALIVE in Pirates 4(at least, when he first appears in the film).

[Angelica Teach]

Yeah it really wouldn't make sense if Blackbeard entered the franchise as a "spirit": they wouldn't really be able to take full advantage of his prestige as an actual, historical pirate captain. However, if they find some way to infuse his soul with ghosts ala the On Stranger Tides novel, that would be incredibly cool.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Wow!, thats very interesting!, i would of probably never figured that out!. At least Terry Rossion told you the answer to that!, right?, and now we both know the answer to that!=). If Blackbeard is alive when he first appears in Pirates 4, and then dies at some point in Pirates 4, it'll probably like when when we saw Barbossa die in Pirates 1 , and when we saw Davy Jones die in pirates 3 !!!. But "of course" both of their deaths are different some how, in those two POTC movies!!!, because Barbossa was shot in the chest and Davy jones heart was stabbed!.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,

Yes your right!, you have a point there, I agree!.

[CJSFan]

Angelica,
That's exactly what "I" had to tell them. It wouldn't make sense for Blackbeard to be a spirit THEN a live human(unlike what the novel shows). And yes, it would be could to infuse his soul with ghost(like in the novel) in Pirates 4, mostly because it's POTC, they'll probably make it BETTER.

[CJSFan]

Sean,
I forgot to tell you something else, I also asked Terry Rossio if Teague was immortal(just to make sure if it was true or not). But Teague said no. and this is what he said:
"Teague is not immortal. You're mistaking a demi-god with a god. Only the gods are immortal; for Teague to be immortal would make him not human. Characters such as Jack, Barbossa, Teague, even Davy Jones, are demi-gods at best; they must endure mortality, as do we all. Now, it may be the case that Teague can out-manuver death for many, many years. But he still must face the universe as a human, with death a constant threat."

And back when we found out that Johnny Depp was helping out with the script, I asked Terry about what he thought about Johnny helping out in Pirates 4. This is what he said:
"Johnny Depp has always been in a quality control position on the movies; this one is no different. The story has to work for him, and be true to his character. The only difference with this screenplay is he has been involved earlier in the process, because we had more time."

Terry Rossio, one of the writers of Pirates 4, ACTUALLY wrote these 2 emails to me(and the others that I mentioned about). But I try not to bother him TOO much, considering making sure everything goes right for Pirates 4 is the MOST important thing to happen right now.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
When you asked him about all of that, you e-mailed him though wordplayer.com, right?, because i know that, that's ted and terrys main website. I wonder when their going to put updates on that website about Pirates 4, i've seen the list on there that shows the movies that their writing for next, with Pirates 4 included on there too, as being one of them!.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan, Angelica,

I'll be back on here in a few minutes, i'm gonna go have my lunch!. I'll be back in few mintues =).

[CJSFan]

Actually, a Microsoft Outlook popped up on my computer screen with his email address right beside "To:". So I just took his email, and I emailed him through Gmail(since I have a gmail), and I thought it would be easier to keep track of it. And I don't know, the website is kind of confusing to understand where everything is. But, as of now, I have Terry Rossio's email.

[Angelica Teach]

CJS Fan,

That's really cool info: I was curious as to what the extent of Johnny's involvement with the script was going to be. Also, I wonder if Jack and Barbossa were to drink from the fountain of youth and become immortal, then they would technically become "gods" in the sense that Tia Dalma was one as Calypso. Somehow though, I just have this feeling that in the end, neither Jack nor Barbossa is going to wind up drinking from the fountain. I could be wrong of course, but I think they may both come to learn during the course of the movie's events that immortality is not all its cracked up to be.

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
I think that it was a reference of some sort to the characters that are unique(like Jack and Barbossa, and Teague as it turns out). I think, I'm not exactly sure(I heard it from the Audio Commentary for Pirates 1, which they explain all that).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,

I would think thats was because Jack and Barbossa were both brought back from the dead, and looked the same as they did, after Barbossa died in Pirates 1, and Jack died in Pirates 2.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,

Has Terry Rossio e-maild you back again, since you last e-mailed him previously???.

[FranklinTard]

what the hell is going on here?

quit talking to yourself.

[Sean B.]

FranklinTard,

Who said we were talking to ourselves?. Get over yourself dude!;-) ...

[Angelica Teach]

what the hell is going on here?

quit talking to yourself.


Quit telling people what to do like the universe appointed you the boss over everybody else, troller.

[Angelica Teach]

Angelica Teach,

I would think thats was because Jack and Barbossa were both brought back from the dead, and looked the same as they did, after Barbossa died in Pirates 1, and Jack died in Pirates 2.

Sean,

That's exactly why I think they could be considered "demigods": also the fact that they both had a share of the Aztec curse in Pirates 1 (albeit Jack had it for a MUCH shorter time than Barbossa) might play a part in that.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes!, i think you are right!. I wonder if Barbossa knew at any point in time there that Jack had the gold aztec coin or coin"s" for a shorter time then him???, Could that be possible???.

[krushgroove19]

Oh my God.

Three pages of this.

[Sean B.]

krushgroove19,

Yes, this one of the forums on here to talk about Pirates 4 ! ;-).

[CJSFan]

Well, the last email I sent to him was to ask about Teague's real first name(in the films). Because in the films, it's not revealed, in the Pirates 3 game, he's called Edward Teague, and in Pirates Online, he is called John Teague(so I had to ask, what is Teague's REAL first name). And he hasn't emailed me back. Either he doesn't know it yet(because they just came up with "Captain Teague" for the film), or he's busy(with getting ready for Pirates 4). But hopefully, he'll email me as soon as he can(depending what's going on).

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Captain Teagues "Real" name probably IS one of the ones that you just mentioned!, But i guess, like what you said, we'll have to wait until he e-mails you back to see what his real name is!. By the way!, i wondering, what you think Jacks mothers name was, you know, whats now the shrunken head that Jsck Sparrow has, that was once Jack Sparrows mother. Any idea on that???. Think i might of heard what it was once a long time ago, but since then, i forgot what her name was!=/.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Keep me posted on if he e-mails you back!. When he e-mails you back (if he does), could you tell me what he says in his reply to you?.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
I've gotta go for now, i'm going out to have my dinner!. I'll come back on here again later today to talk you some more about Pirates 4 in a little while!. Bye for now!=).

[Angelica Teach]

Oh my God.

Three pages of this.


If you don't like it, don't read it troller.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

Hopefully we'll find out more about Jack's parents in OST. I do know from reading Pirates of the Caribbean: The Complete Visual Guide that his mother gave birth to him during a typhoon on the Indian Ocean.

[Dhamon22]

Wtf

[Angelica Teach]

(Sigh) Could you people PLEASE stop trolling other people's posts? If we were doing anything wrong, a site official would say something. That hasn't happened because we're well within our right to discuss and speculate Pirates 4 in a thread titled "PIRATES 4-IT'S COMING". So go find something better to do than trying to bully people you don't know over the internet for no reason! Thank you.

[FranklinTard]

its like a train wreck... i can't look away... please continue.

[Ramplate]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/ramplate/iloldcat.jpg

[Angelica Teach]

FranklinTard,

Does it make you feel good to troll strangers over the internet for no reason? Does it? Jeez who appointed you the official critic of what people type in these forums, troller.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
I'm back from my dinner!, sorry i took so long, i had gone out to have my dinner, i'm back though now=)!. Also, Oh my god!, those are very dumb trolls if you ask me!. They clearly don't know how and when to stop!, do they?!. Just remember though Angelica Teach, if we if we ignore them all !, they'll eventually go away, because all their looking for is attention from us!, as we can pretty much see here!=/. Try not to talk to them too much or at all, because that's all they want us to do, and their egging us on to do so, which wont work with us!, because we know how to act like their not even here!, right?;-).

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

You're absolutely right: it just sucks that some people have to treat other posters who didn't even DO ANYTHING to them like scum because we're not doing what "they" think we should be. I mean my God who do they think they are?

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,

As far as i am concerned, they have no brains, period!. If they can't stay on subject here, and reply to us here like normal people, then they should not be allowed to be on here bothering us at all !, don't you think so too Angelica Teach???.

[Angelica Teach]

Yes they should all be banned for being unnecessarily cruel to others. We have EVERY RIGHT to post whatever we want as long as we stay on topic. But that's the nature of bullies isn't it? They just keep jabbing at you as long as you don't conform to what they think you should be doing. Anyway, like you said before just ignore the trolls. They're not worth it.

[FranklinTard]

who is this 'we'?

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i couldn't agree with you more, your absolutely right!.

[Angelica Teach]

who is this 'we'?

The people who are trying to discuss Pirates 4 with each other in this thread genius.

[Angelica Teach]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i couldn't agree with you more, your absolutely right!.

Thank you. Anyway let's get back to speculating about Pirates 4. Do you think that Jack and Barbossa will work together to find the fountain like in the early story conceptions, or that they will be competing to find the fountain?

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,

That is a good question!, actually i have no idea which of those ways of that in the fourth movie that it'll be!. It could be either of them!. But actually, in a way, i kinda think Jack and Barbossa will be competing to find the fountain of youth, i could be wronge though!, right?. What do you think will happen Angelica Teach?, do you think they'll go and find it together or compete against each other to get to it?.

[CJSFan]

Sean,
I have no idea about the name of Jack's mother(there was nothing in Pirates Wiki, so I'm assuming she's unnamed). And if he emails back, I shall let you(and Angelica Teach) know.

Angelica Teach,
I've read that Jack was born in a typhoon too(except that I've learned it from the Jack Sparrow page in Pirates Wiki). And I agree, I hope we learn more about Jack's parents because:
1. Teague is suppose to be in Pirates 4(from what I've read on the Pirates 4 news).

2. Some guy during Comic con(I think his name was Oren Aviv, I don't know, it was somone from Disney), said they wanted to show us a little of Jack's backstory(which I presumed it being flashbacks I think).

And as for if Jack and Barbossa were competing or not for the Fountain of Youth. As far as I know(and by the look of what happened between them in the previous films), they would probably be competing to find it. But I'm just taking one of my many guesses about what would happen in Pirates 4(although I was usually right about most things).

[Angelica Teach]

I think I read somewhere that there might be flashbacks of Jack's life before the events of COTBP, which if they happen I'm assuming would shed more light on his parents and also perhaps establish what took place between him and Angelica before their relationship ended. Also I have a feeling that Barbossa and Jack may go back and forth between competing for the fountain and working together to find it (they are really tricky pirates after all). It would kind of fit with what their relationship dynamics were like in movie 3, if you know what I mean.

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, might thoughts exactly, we might learn a little about Jack and Angelica's relationship in the past(mostly because the most we know about Angelica is that she's Blackbeard's daughter). And this is just what I think, but I think that the flashback scenes should happen during the journey to the Fountain of Youth scenes(like in the book). Also, I believe that Jack and Barbossa's relationship in Pirates 4 will be a lot like in Pirates 3 I think.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Yeah, i think you are right, that Jacks mother might be named, but i think i might remember a possible name for her that i can't remember where i read it before, but i think i "might" of read it possibly somewhere on the internet that her name was something like "Cora Sparrow" or "Corra Sparrow", something like that "I think", i'm not 100% percent sure though!=/. Also, yeah, i was thinking too that Jack and Barbossa, will be competing against each other to see who gets there first or something to that effect, I think they will try and beat each other to its location, i don't think they want to share it wil each other, or something "i think", thats what was going on at the end of the third movie, where Barbossa got a hold of his "previously owned" Black Pearl, and Jack got that little boat, and they each tried to get to it, starting at that point at the end of the third movie, and then we'll see that continue into the fourth movie, which that, i'm 100% sure about that!=).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
I like the idea of the flashbacks in Pirates 4, because that might open up alot of the story of all the POTC movies released so far, of the things in the POTC story in the POTC movies that we never even knew about before!. I would like to see that happen in Pirates 4, i like when we have surprises in the story of the POTC movies!, do you???. Maybe we'll see some things in the fourth movie being revealed, that we would never expect!=), Do you think that'll happen in Pirates 4, that we would never expect???, any ideas on that???.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I remember reading the "Cora Sparrow" thing: before the second and third Pirate movies came out there were these rumors swirling that a young actress had been cast to play someone called Cora Sparrow who would either be Jack's daughter or his mother as a child. Obviously this was all false. And yes, based on the past movies I think there will be A LOT of twists and turns in Pirates 4 we will not expect (I remember being in the theaters during Dead Man's Chest and my mouth flying open in shock when Jack got eaten by the Kraken).

[krushgroove19]

Well, my mind is effectively blown.

[Angelica Teach]

Yes, and we all care soooooooo much.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i was also shocked to see Jack being taken down by the kraken too!. When i first saw that in the movie theaters, that was something i would of never even "expected" to happen, nor did i "think" it would happen, because well, he's Captain Jack Sparrow, who that usually escapes many things trying to take him down, or get in his way!, right?. Also, I too, am expecting the twists and turns in Pirates 4!, i know for a fact that alot of that will happen, with out any question!. That is interesting that the Name Cora Sparrow was just a false rumor about Jacks mother or his daughter!, i did not expect that to be a rumor at all !, i'm kinda surprised about that!=0.

[CJSFan]

Sean,
When I first saw the ending to Pirates 3(Barbossa having the Pearl and Jack sailing to find the Fountain of Youth), I thought THAT was it. I thought there were NO MORE sequels. And I was kinda sad, because I wanted more(but no one said anything about more). But it wasn't until sometime around 2008, I found out that there was a Pirates 4, it gave me hope that I can feel the excitement again(but back then, Pirates 4 was supposedly called "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Fountain of Youth"). And ever since then, I've looked up information for Pirates 4 EVERY DAY(even as we speak, I'm doing it). And right now, it's about 2 years later since then(that I found out that there was a Pirates 4), and we now know the film is called "Pirates of the Caribbean: ON STRANGER TIDES"(not "The Fountain of Youth" like it was assumed, but "On Stranger Tides" is a great title for the film), and that Johnny Depp, Geoffrey Rush, AND Kevin McNally are back for Pirates 4(with more cast to confirm still). And the best part, the movie is being released less than a year(May 20, 2011), and filming starts in less than 9 days(June 14, 2010)!!! How can things get any better?! I could just EXPLODE in excitement right now!!!

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
It looks to me like the Trolls like being out all day and all night. If you get my drift? ;-).

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

You know, if the intelligence levels displayed in their posts didn't indicate that they all have to be around 11-12 years old, it might be pathetically sad.

CJSFan,

I can't believe shooting's only 9 days away either. I've been following this movie since December 2008 when reports said the movie wasn't going to come out til 2012 (thank God that was false: I couldn't stand having to wait another two years). It just hit me though when you mentioned it that we have less than a year to wait before the movie's released. I hope they make at least one more POTC film after this (though I'd love two more to make another complete trilogy).

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Yes, i could explode in excitement too about Pirates 4 !. I'm so glad that there is only 9 days until they start filming on June 14th, 2010, for a May 20th, 2011 release to theaters!. I've noticed that every time we get more and more news about Pirates 4, it just ends up getting better and better every single time!. I can't to see the concept art for this movie, that's probably going to be one of the next things they'll release for Pirates 4, right?, i hope it is!. They'll probably also release the behind the scenes images of them starting to film the movie, some short time after they've started on it, after June 14th, 2010. Maybe we'll even see the concept art too, for most of the individual characters in Pirates 4 too!, i bet that'll be cool to see soon too!. Also, i wouldn't be surprised if we'll soon see another new video interview with Jerry Bruckheimer, where he'll reveal more exciting news about Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides yet again!=).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, i know!, no kidding =/. They probably don't want to say what their age is, because they know, that we know, what they would say their age is then!.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

I think what I'm really looking forward to the most is seeing pictures and concept art of all the new characters in their pirate garb. I also really want to see concept art of the mermaids and the fountain itself so we can get an idea of what they may look like.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
Yeah!, me too!. I want to see all that too in the pictures and concept art also, I bet the concept art will be very cool!=). There is also the music of the fourth movie, that i can't to hear, that Hans Zimmer will be doing this time around, like he did for Pirates 2 and 3. I can't to read what the titles of each of the songs that there will be for Pirates 4, one things for sure though, that there will be a theme for is Jack Sparrow, Blackbeard, The Mermaids, Angelica or Angelica and Jack, and the Fountain of Youth Scene, a whole more too!. I love the POTC movie music, i have all three of the POTC soundtracks, and i'm planning on getting the soundtrack for the fourth movie too!, i bet it'll be released to stores on May 17th, 2011 Tuesday, on the same week that Pirates 4 comes to theaters on May 20th, 2011 Friday!.

[CJSFan]

Angelica Teach,
Yes, I'm glad that the information about Pirates 4 being released in 2012 is false(because 2011 sorta seems like a better date to release it, in my opinion). And I hope that we have a trilogy after this(although it would depend on the success of Pirates 4 and if Johnny Depp wants to play Jack again). If they plan to make another trilogy, AWESOME, but if not, well at least we have a good Pirates of the Caribbean film(On Stranger Tides). And me too, I can't wait until the concept art for the Mermaids and the Fountain of Youth scene.

Sean,
I also hope that the behind the scenes of Pirates 4 will be released soon. And I am planning on getting the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides too! Also, speaking of the concept art, that guy you emailed(the one who told you about milesteves.com). Did he happen tell you when the concept art was released? Or did he tell you that it's "coming soon"? I'm not in any rush, but if he told you, I needed to know.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
Miles Teves said it was "Coming Soon". He did not tell me an exact time, or anything like that, or a date he was planning on finishing it on, But i do think we'll get to see it on his website "milesteves.com", when Walt Disney Pictures/Studios says it's o.k. for him to release it on there, some short time after he finishes it all.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan, Angelica,
Have you both noticed that the website called disney.go.om/disneypictures was taken down and replaced with home.disney.go.com/movies/ ???. It's been like that for a few months now, and i wish they would put it back up on the internet and on their website, the way it was before, so that when Pirates 4's trailers come out, we can watch them directly from there!, instead of what they have on there now, that poorly replaceses it!=/, What i mean by that, is that now it looks even more cheap then before!. I can't believe they did that!, i even e-mailed them once or twice, the people in control of the website, and i told them how very unhappy I was that they did that!!!. I bet there are people out there who noticed that, and feel the same way about that, and complained to them about it too!, who that are very familiar with the Disney website, like i am!. Are you both familiar with Disney.go.com???.

[Angelica Teach]

Sean,

The music for Pirates has always been awesome. I think my favorites so far are Jack's theme, because it's just so, "Jack", if you get my drift, and the Davy/Calypso locket theme, because its so hauntingly sad and romantic (yes I'm a shipper, I admit it :rolleyes:). I think Angelica's theme should have a Latin edge to it considering she's Spanish. Oh, and I hope that when Miles Teves said it was "coming soon", he really meant "soon" and not "eventually".

[Angelica Teach]

Oh and I didn't realize about the Disney website until you mentioned it. That's pretty sucky but I guess we'll be able to just go to YouTube or Apple to watch the trailer if we have to.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
I totally agree with you about the POTC music, everything you said about it!, especially the fact that Jacks theme is so "Jack"=). I hope so too, that when he said to me that it was coming soon, that he really ment soon, and not just eventually!. As for the movie trailers, i would choose Apple movie trailers over Youtube, but Youtube is o.k. too!. Apple movie trailers is only for movie trailers, but i like it that way!=).

[CJSFan]

The music for POTC suits well for the films(actually, it's good for ANY pirate film if you ask me). And Jack's theme is perfect, whether it's the slow and steady theme(like when he walks or something) or the heroic theme(the music that you hear when he first appears in each film), and I REALLY hope that the heroic theme is in Pirates 4. The best battle music in my opinion(other than the POTC theme, "He's a Pirate", which is the PERFECT theme for the films hands-down), is "I Don't Think Now is the Best Time"(and the other music that you hear in the Maelstrom battle in Pirates 3 that you DON'T hear in the soundtrack, if you know what I mean). And I am looking forward into hearing the music for Blackbeard(bad guy themes are always good), and the music for the battle scenes(because they usually fit the battle scenes). And I also would like to hear the heroic Jack theme(just to hear a newer version, because it suits how Jack is).

[Angelica Teach]

Yeah I hope they bring back some of the original themes in addition to the new ones they'll have. They HAVE to have Jack's theme at the very least (it just wouldn't be a POTC movie without Jack's theme). I'm sure the mermaids will get their own theme too because I read somewhere that the ladies cast as mermaids had to have operatic singing voices (in addition to the whole "real breasts" thing).

[Sean B.]

CJSFan,
I think the heroic theme for Jack Sparrow will be in Pirates 4, because it was in the first three movies, so why wouldn't it be in the fourth movie?. Yes, the "He's a Pirate" one is awesome!, i like that one alot!=). I think the Blackbeard theme will probably be the best "bad guy" theme we've heard yet!. I like that too, when they have new Jack themes , because they sound like music that always fits Johnny Depps "Jack Sparrow" character!.

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
The ladies cast as Mermaids had to have operatic singing voices???, Does that mean that they'll be singing or will like be doing mermaid singing of some sort???, i wonder what that'll sound like???.

[Angelica Teach]

I'm assuming it means that the mermaids will be doing some singing at some point in the movie, which I think is going to make for an awesome track.

[Sean B.]

I think so too, that it would make for an awesome soundtrack. How many mermaids do you think there will be in Pirates 4???.

[Angelica Teach]

I think there will be a lot of them because the casting call for the models was huge, and I just have this feeling that they're going to introduce us to this whole POTC "mermaid world" mythology. It may even be like the Jack Sparrow books in certain ways.

[Sean B.]

CJSFan, Angelica Teach,
I'm gonna go ahead now and go!. It's getting kinda late as i type this, so i'll talk you both tomorrow on here starting around noon or so, to talk with you both, more about Pirates 4. If either of you find out more information about Pirates 4 while i'm not on here, let me know what you've found out tonight, when i come back to chat more with you tomorrow!. Bye=).

[Sean B.]

Angelica Teach,
That would be cool if they did that with mermaids in the POTC movies, i like that idea!=). Did you read my reply to you right before this one?, i was saying that i'm gonna go ahead now and go, because it's getting kinda late now, so i'll talk to you and CJSFan tomorrow!, let me know if you find out anything new about Pirates 4, when i come back here, to chat with you both some more tomorrow!.

[Sean B.]

Hey CJSFan, Angelica,
Are you both back on here today???, I'm sorry i left you both here so abruptly last night!=/, i was planning on coming on coming back on here again today!!!, so here i am! =). Has anything new popped up on the internet about Pirates 4, since last we talked on here late last night???, i'm just wondering.