Captain America - news, info, previews

[sshuttari]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080506j.php

Matthew McConaughey is rumored to be the front runner for Marvel's early 2011 superhero project "The First Avenger: Captain America" reports Cinema Blend.

The character's real name is Steve Rogers, a sickly young man who was enhanced to the peak of human perfection by an experimental serum in order to aid the United States war effort during the Second World War.

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He does kind of look the part but... he's not that great of an actor.

Depends on the director really if the movie will work.

I honestly can't think of anyone else that can honestly play a good Captain America.

anyways what do you guys think?

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Actually he's a pretty good actor. Reign of Fire showed me that he has acting ability. Problem is, he's just been taking bad roles.

[Frizzo the Clown]

Has acting chops aside, I don't know if I could take Cap seriously if he was talking with that accent of McConaughey's.

[Scorpio82]

Just as long as they don't drop the WWII aspect of the character. Even if it's just in the intro before we go to modern day, we need to see at least one scene where Captain kicks some Nazi ass.

[BygEvyl666999]

Look wise, he is a good fit, but I just don't see him pulling off the role convincingly, especially with the accent he has. Off the top of my head I really can't think of the ideal person to play the role.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Can't he talk without it? I know Kate Winslet can speak without an accent.

[sshuttari]

isn't he american though?

[Diablo]

He is from Texas. That accent.

[Dhamon22]

Interesting... I'm sure he could talk without the accent.

Its hard to tell if someone will be good for a role. Who would have thought Heath Ledger would make a great Joker when it was first announced.

[sshuttari]

yeah but Heath was a really great actor a lot better than Matthew McCoughahey

[HotBoy]

Here's another actor to consider for Captain America:

http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050905/15/610694905.jpg

MARC BLUCAS

[BygEvyl666999]

That dude looks more the part then McConaughey.

[sshuttari]

He's too young

I've seen him in O.C.

We need someone that is about the age of 30-40

[FVD]

Not necessarily. Remember that Steve Rogers was pretty much a weakling who really wanted to join the Army and he was relatively young anyway. And that Marc Blucas is an awesome choice.

McConaughey would be okay but I've yet to see him use other than his accent we all know him for. Steve Rogers is supposed to be from NY.

And I'm all for a WWII period piece. The thawing out can be shown at the beginning of the Avengers film or something. Or a teaser ala Samuel Nick Fury.

[Neverending]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f218/SteveFrame/Actors2/MatthewBomer6.jpg

[drob127]

back in the day i remember someone saying brad pitt

[IanTheCool]

I've always thought that if they did a Cap movie, i would want it about the world war 2 storyline. but now i also think it would be good to have the thawing out story and whatever story they're gonna have in present day intercut with his flashbacks to the war, a la Lost, so that both aspects are presented.

[sshuttari]

The only thing I'm concerned about is what if Captain America fails at the box office?

How is that going to effect Avengers in July?

It is really dumb there having this and Avengers 2 months apart.

[Fanible]

They better make sure it's a dynamite script with a great director then. At least they can cancel these plans should something like the Hulk wind up bad. It's a bit too late to do so with the Captain America and Avengers back to back.

[sshuttari]

Yeah I'm also worried about The Incredible Hulk this summer. I honestly don't think that movie is going to have Iron Man or Spider-man numbers.

I just hope it makes over 100million domestically or else their going to have to do a real small role for the hulk in the Avengers flick.

Also I really doubt Edward Norton would want to come back for Avengers as well.

[Fanible]

Well the amount of money it makes probably wouldn't matter as far as the future films connected to it. It just needs to be good.

Considering Norton's interest in this particular film, I wouldn't be surprised if he did return actually. As long as he liked the script.

[Neverending]

The only thing I'm concerned about is what if Captain America fails at the box office?

How is that going to effect Avengers in July?

It is really dumb there having this and Avengers 2 months apart.

Agreed. Marvel is milking things. For starters, Captain America should come out on the 4th of July. Then, release Avengers the following year.

[sshuttari]

Agreed. Marvel is milking things. For starters, Captain America should come out on the 4th of July. Then, release Avengers the following year.

oh wow I didn't even think about that, what better way for a patriotic superhero to have his movie released than in the time when we celebrate everything good about this country.

Marvel is dumb... they really need to give people time to acknowledge Captain America as a film before shoving Avengers into the Box Office mix.

[SouthsideX300]

Captain America released on the 4th of july is brilliant and obviously should be done. Come on marvel!

[Ramplate]

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Greg%20Kinnear-9.jpg
Greg Kinnear
Yeah he's older but so was Cap realistically when the Avengers formed - 50 years on ice will only stop just so much :D

[drob127]

Agreed. Marvel is milking things. For starters, Captain America should come out on the 4th of July. Then, release Avengers the following year.


i agree with you 110% on the 4th of july thing. also i think they should wait and see how the films do then make the avengers cuz what if like someone said the hulk stinks it might throw some people away from it. but then again people want the avengers so

[Ramplate]

yeah the Avengers rocks so much more than the sum of their parts - I don't think it matters what the Hulk does on its second start - as long as it doesn't suck

[drob127]

i guess so, but did they even say which avengers they are going for?

[HotBoy]

He's too young

I've seen him in O.C.

We need someone that is about the age of 30-40Don't forget his stint as Riley Finn on "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer"!

To me, he looks like he could pull off Captain America quite convincingly!

[drob127]

i would like to see brad pitt...i remember someone saying his name once spiderman 2 came out. i think josh lucas could be in that group even though i dont really like his work

[kfizz]

I think after seeing clips of the hulk. I think cap should fight the way Emil Blonsky/Tim Roth fights since they are almost one in the same in the way they were made. If you are wondering what im talking about check out this link.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/23/the-incredible-hulk-three-new-video-clips/

its the IGN clip that im talking about.

[drob127]

yea you are right both super soldiers in a way

[Fighting American]

http://images.zap2it.com/20070205/markvalley3_bostonlegal_s3_240.jpg


Mark Valley...from Boston Legal.....

This is Steve Rogers

http://images.zap2it.com/20060202/markvalley_sag06_240.jpg


Mark Valley

Mark Valley first became interested in acting during high school but put his aspirations on hold when he decided to attend West Point. He graduated with a degree in math and was then stationed in Germany, where he stayed for five years - except for the time he spent participating in Operation Desert Storm.

His acting career began when he was discovered by an agent in Berlin. His first role was working in John Schlesinger's The Innocent, which starred Anthony Hopkins and was filmed in Germany. He continued working abroad and appeared in several more productions before returning to the United States to pursue his career further.

Valley made an impact on television viewers with his lead role in Pasadena, as well as in recurring roles on ER and Once and Again. Additional television work includes guest spots on CSI, The Lone Gunmen and Gideon's Crossing, as well as a stint on the long-running daytime drama, Days of Our Lives. He also appeared in several telefilms, including Running Mates and Breast Men, and portrayed Senator Robert Kennedy in George Wallace. In feature films, Valley appeared in The Siege and The Next Best Thing.


this guy was actually in the Military, too!!!

[drob127]

^he looks the part

[FVD]

Yeah Mark Valley is interesting. Even Aaron Eckhart would have been a good pick had he not been Harvey Dent.

[André]

I know Kate Winslet can speak without an accent.

I find it funny that americans seem to think that "without accent"= "speaking american".

Oh, and PS: You cant speak without an accent.

[drob127]

why you gotta call us americans? jk

[sshuttari]

No...

I still think Matthew Mc. is a pretty good choice.

[Fighting American]

http://images.zap2it.com/20070205/markvalley3_bostonlegal_s3_240.jpg


Mark Valley...from Boston Legal.....

This is Steve Rogers

http://images.zap2it.com/20060202/markvalley_sag06_240.jpg


Mark Valley

Mark Valley first became interested in acting during high school but put his aspirations on hold when he decided to attend West Point. He graduated with a degree in math and was then stationed in Germany, where he stayed for five years - except for the time he spent participating in Operation Desert Storm.

His acting career began when he was discovered by an agent in Berlin. His first role was working in John Schlesinger's The Innocent, which starred Anthony Hopkins and was filmed in Germany. He continued working abroad and appeared in several more productions before returning to the United States to pursue his career further.

Valley made an impact on television viewers with his lead role in Pasadena, as well as in recurring roles on ER and Once and Again. Additional television work includes guest spots on CSI, The Lone Gunmen and Gideon's Crossing, as well as a stint on the long-running daytime drama, Days of Our Lives. He also appeared in several telefilms, including Running Mates and Breast Men, and portrayed Senator Robert Kennedy in George Wallace. In feature films, Valley appeared in The Siege and The Next Best Thing.


this guy was actually in the Military, too!!!


http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/April08/Previews/4_16/CAP37_Picture9.jpg
http://yirmumah.net/cap-dies.jpg

[morpheus1987]

That guy is freaking perfect for the role. Can he act?

[sshuttari]

he is pretty good in Boston Legal. But he doesn't have the star presence to bring in people to the seats just for his name.

[morpheus1987]

I dont think the star power would be that much of a factor, because captain america's name should be enough of a factor. If they get someone decent to play Red Skull then the movie should be fine. I would love to see Willem Dafoe pull off the Red Skull. So long as he can pull off a good german accent

[André]

But he doesn't have the star presence to bring in people to the seats just for his name.

Considering the star power that Tobey Maguire had before SM......Or Christian Bale for that matter, Eric Bana, Michael Keaton, Brandon Routh?

And people still insist that you need star presence?

Hmmm. ok.

[Fanible]

And people still insist that you need star presence?

I don't know about most people in general, but most producers do. Since most producers don't know how to do much more than throw their money around, they like having "insurance."

*sigh*
But I guess in that sense, a lot of people are superficial, and star power can attract them. Which is why most money grubbers think that way.

[Fighting American]

That guy is freaking perfect for the role. Can he act?

He was nominated for an Emmy.....

[Fighting American]

Considering the star power that Tobey Maguire had before SM......Or Christian Bale for that matter, Eric Bana, Michael Keaton, Brandon Routh?

And people still insist that you need star presence?

Hmmm. ok.

Don't forget someone named Christopher Reeve.

I agree that that some characters are so well-known that their "name" would be the draw. Tobey McGuire??? I was like "who". didn't matter. After I saw the previews of the movie, I was all in. Mark Valley is ex-military as well. Desert Storm.

[FVD]

^ Yeah just like how Gene Hackman was an ex-Marine.

[Fighting American]

^ Yeah just like how Gene Hackman was an ex-Marine.

Huh??

[Naite22]

Actually he's a pretty good actor. Reign of Fire showed me that he has acting ability. Problem is, he's just been taking bad roles.

I completely agree... and take a look at his part in "A Time to Kill", from the mid 90's!... He's pretty good.

[FVD]

Huh??

Mark Valley served in Desert Storm.

Gene Hackman was a Marine.

Get the connection?

[sshuttari]

I would like it better if they went with someone who was in there late 20's instead of someone who is there's 30's or later.

[morpheus1987]

Ryan Phillipe anyone?

[drob127]

i hate to say this but i think brad pitt could do it...i know he is very hollywood for the role but i think he could pull it off. he is built for it and we know he can act

[Fighting American]

Mark Valley served in Desert Storm.

Gene Hackman was a Marine.

Get the connection?

Not really. I only brought up Valley's recent military service making him a natural in getting into "soldier mode" as Cap. Not to mention that he looks just like Steve Rogers AND has acting chops.

So no...I didn't get the Hackman connection. :redface:

[Fighting American]

Ryan Phillipe anyone?

http://fametastic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/ryan_phillippe_reese_witherspoon.jpg

This guy?? Naaaah.......too young looking.
He's a great Clint Barton (Hawkeye) or Johnny Storm or Danny Rand (Iron Fist)

[morpheus1987]

Dude he is perfect in my opinion for an early captain america. He can act as was proven in Crash and Stop-Loss, and fits the part. I think he would do really well if they were trying to make him in his 20s. And is that pic recent because I thought him and reese were done like 2 years ago?

[Fighting American]

Dude he is perfect in my opinion for an early captain america. He can act as was proven in Crash and Stop-Loss, and fits the part. I think he would do really well if they were trying to make him in his 20s. And is that pic recent because I thought him and reese were done like 2 years ago?

http://images.zap2it.com/ltvimages/images/240/ryanphillippe_crash_240_001.jpg

Not working

And that's from "Crash"

[Fighting American]

Ryan has almost a "too pretty" quality to him. Cap can't look girly.

I'd go with Mcconahey before I go with Phillipe.

http://i.dir.bg/kino/films/732/Reign-of-Fire-Izabella-Matthew-McConaughey-2.jpg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dpJOgXhBLaA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t-HJgJo-KB4

[drob127]

i dont like mcconahey for cap, idunno why

[morpheus1987]

^maybe because he has been in nothing but rom-coms lately so we forgot that he is actually a decent actor

[Fighting American]

^maybe because he has been in nothing but rom-coms lately so we forgot that he is actually a decent actor

Great point

[Fighting American]

i dont like mcconahey for cap, idunno why

Did you watch those action clips??

[Fighting American]

He does need to lose that southern twang if he's gonna be Steve Rogers from Brooklyn, NY.

[sshuttari]

I think Matthew Mcchonughey can do a really good job.

Even though he's in his late 30's now

[Ewok Droppings]

I'd boycott this if Ryan Philipe was cast.

[Fighting American]

I'd boycott this if Ryan Philipe was cast.

Amen

[macca]

Has acting chops aside, I don't know if I could take Cap seriously if he was talking with that accent of McConaughey's.

Yep i totally agree,i think they should go with an unknown.

[Ramplate]

He does need to lose that southern twang if he's gonna be Steve Rogers from Brooklyn, NY.

Steve Rogers was born on July 4, 1917 in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, New York City, to Irish immigrants Sarah and Joseph Rogers --Wiki

Sorry, couldn't see him with a Brooklyn accent (And sounding like Tony Danza) so I checked :)

[Fighting American]

Steve Rogers was born on July 4, 1917 in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, New York City, to Irish immigrants Sarah and Joseph Rogers --Wiki

Sorry, couldn't see him with a Brooklyn accent (And sounding like Tony Danza) so I checked :)


No problem. as long as he's not Texan.

[drob127]

im just glad its finally getting made

[Fighting American]

im just glad its finally getting made

Long over due! How movies like Daredevil, Elektra and Ghost rider get made before Cap, is beyond me. But....it's a go now. :)

[Project86]

^ lets hope cap don't go the route those movies went lol

[Fanible]

Long over due! How movies like Daredevil, Elektra and Ghost rider get made before Cap, is beyond me. But....it's a go now. :)

They didn't get made first:
http://www.retroist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/captain_america.jpg

;)

[Fighting American]

They didn't get made first:
http://www.impawards.com/1990/posters/captain_america.jpg

;)

Please don't count that crap Matt Salinger movie.

[drob127]

^LOL. i always thought that the one of the first movies after xmen would have been cap but i guess not

[sshuttari]

Mark Wahlberg = Captain America

He would just need to buff up!

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

Just to throw another name out there....

They could do a lot worse than this guy

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/ryan_gosling/fotos/1161/ryan_gosling.jpg

[drob127]

^maybe i did like him a lot in fracture

[KenMasters]

Actually he's a pretty good actor. Reign of Fire showed me that he has acting ability. Problem is, he's just been taking bad roles.

Damn right, ROF was awesome, I think he would do just fine but supposedly Leonardo Dicaprio is up for the role from what I read recently.

[Project86]

i totally agree i still want MM he gets too much flak i agree i think he is a solid actor who just takes any role he was even good in we are marshall and two for the money

matt looks really intense in ROF look :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dpJOgXhBLaA

[drob127]

i guess i could see him do it

[MegaBlaster]

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http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2328/lineupav4.a2ac553a68.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=209&i=lineupav4.jpg)

Here he is!!!

And here is the new video featuring him!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWDyoO42qIw

What do you think?:omg:

[Ewok Droppings]

it's fake I think

[MegaBlaster]

So you don't think he is real either??

What is Marvel up too?

[sshuttari]

yeah it's a fake, not to mention if there was an actor that was named to play Captain America. They would have announced it and it would have been all over the movie forums and websites.

[DragnFire22]

And those pictures look like they are from an amateur porn

[drob127]

:lol:...he looks like him though

[EnderDeschain]

Lookit:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/EnderDeschain/MattDamon.jpg

There's your dang Captain America, by gum. He's got the perfect look, the right screen presence, the acting ability, the physicality. He's friggin perfect.

And he's getting a little old now, but I still think Jurgen Prochnow is the Red Skull.

http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/prochnow/prochnow_1.jpg

[Fighting American]

Lookit:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/EnderDeschain/MattDamon.jpg

There's your dang Captain America, by gum. He's got the perfect look, the right screen presence, the acting ability, the physicality. He's friggin perfect.

And he's getting a little old now, but I still think Jurgen Prochnow is the Red Skull.

http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/prochnow/prochnow_1.jpg

Matt Damon is Bucky Barnes........that's it!!


http://david.ely.fm/davextreme/images/2007/10/12/bucky.png

[Fighting American]

:lol:...he looks like him though

Yes he does.

[Fighting American]

Mark Valley....Emmy Nominated Actor from Boston Legal



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[Fighting American]

Daniel Craig is the Red Skull

[FVD]

I like Matt Damon but while he may be a decent choice for Cap he's still too damn short. Mark Valley is a great choice if he weren't too old. I believe like in the comics Steve Rogers should be in his mid 20's.

[Fighting American]

I like Matt Damon but while he may be a decent choice for Cap he's still too damn short. Mark Valley is a great choice if he weren't too old. I believe like in the comics Steve Rogers should be in his mid 20's.

Cap's doesn't look to be in his mid-20's....look at those Epting pictures. and Damon is indeed too short. that's why I picked him for Bucky.

[EnderDeschain]

Believe me, I'd thought about his height. He is short for the ideal Cap, sure. But there isn't gonna be an ideal Cap. If we had cast an ideal Iron Man or Joker, we wouldn't have come near what happened. But they were both perfect. Height is a small thing, comparatively speaking, the rest of what needs to be brought to the role is way more important. And Damon has the rest.

As for Bucky Barnes, I hope and pray that there isn't one. If there is, then Dolph Lundgren may as well take the lead, it's gonna equal **** one way or another.

[Fighting American]

Believe me, I'd thought about his height. He is short for the ideal Cap, sure. But there isn't gonna be an ideal Cap. If we had cast an ideal Iron Man or Joker, we wouldn't have come near what happened. But they were both perfect. Height is a small thing, comparatively speaking, the rest of what needs to be brought to the role is way more important. And Damon has the rest.


Downy Jr. looked like Stark. Stark has never been thought about in terms of his height or physique. Cap's whole thing is about a guy who changed into something other than short or skinny. what Cap looks like visually will be very important.

As for Bucky Barnes, I hope and pray that there isn't one. If there is, then Dolph Lundgren may as well take the lead, it's gonna equal **** one way or another.

It'll only be for one movie.

[FVD]

You cannot have Captain America without Bucky Barnes. :nono:

[EnderDeschain]

You cannot have Captain America without Bucky Barnes. :nono:


If they do it like in The Ultimates, where Bucky is more or less Cap's photographer and man-groupie, it could work. But giving Cap a straight-up sidekick would destroy the flick before it even gets made.

[Fighting American]

If they do it like in The Ultimates, where Bucky is more or less Cap's photographer and man-groupie, it could work. But giving Cap a straight-up sidekick would destroy the flick before it even gets made.

true

[drob127]

yea no side-kick and really who cares about height....remember michael keaton as batman everyone said he was too short and that turned out okay

[sabin26]

Give me a few months and I could play Captain America...I already know all the military lingo and everything...cause I am in the service.

[FranklinTard]

by that logic... theres a couple hundred thousand people who could play captain. and does he really use the lingo?

[sabin26]

If he is talking to soldiers he would. Well I think I could pull it off...maybe...as long as Joel Schumacher isn't involved.

[bbf2]

I don't know if this is going to work as a movie. I mean, obviously 65 years of appearing in comics has fleshed out his character, but at his core Captain America is just personified jingoism.

Which would be fine, except the international box office is HUGE now a days.

Personally, I think they should just skip this movie and make him the leader and more or less the main character (along with Downey's Iron Man) in the Avengers movie.

[EnderDeschain]

There's a story to be told with Cap that can't be told with any other Marvel character, and it's a distinctly American story (obviously), so **** international box office. The "man out of time" angle has been done before, but not with a character like him, a character who embodies patriotism and service to one's country and all the things that everyone now thinks of as "jingoism" (yes, I had to look that up). It speaks volumes that something people used to believe in, actually believe in in ways that today's cynical society can't even really grasp, is now laughed at and given generic nonsense labels. Once upon a time, there was a place called the USA that instead of being perceived as the arrogant bully of the free world, was perceived as the hope of the free world. People scoff at that notion now and write it off as so much sentimental, self-aggrandizing horse****, but that's what I mean is that people actually believed it then. They didn't just say it or use it as a political platform, that belief in ourselves was part of the way we lived our lives and set our goals and functioned within our society.

If you took a man from back then, who embodied everything America wants to be (good, self-sacrificing, considerate of others, blah blah) and transplanted him to right now, where America is what it is, that's a perspective and a story that can't be achieved with any other Marvel character. That story deserves it's own movie, with Cap finding his place and getting his bearings in a place that he doesn't recognize anymore, before such an intriguing set-up gets overshadowed by his interaction with the other characters.

That story would have to be approached just right to come across as anything other than blind flag-waving or, more likely from a Hollywood product, rampant anti-Americanism (sorry, I don't know the fancy words). That's a pretty thin line to walk and a pretty delicate balance to achieve. In fact it's probably damn near impossible. But if it were done right it could be a much better movie than any other Marvel character could possibly give room for.

[FVD]

If they do it like in The Ultimates, where Bucky is more or less Cap's photographer and man-groupie, it could work. But giving Cap a straight-up sidekick would destroy the flick before it even gets made.

Yeah I do agree Bucky can do something other than be another blatant Boy Wonder. It just wouldn't hurt for Cap to have Bucky as a fellow comrade in arms. Times have changed and his character has been changed so much. Which brings up the next question.

Should Bucky Barnes survive and become Winter Soldier later on? I mean we don't have to see Winter Soldier on the big screen. We can only assume in our minds that if he'd remain alive, well you know the rest.

[Frizzo the Clown]

by that logic... theres a couple hundred thousand people who could play captain. and does he really use the lingo?
By that logic, I could play Cap. Afterall, I'm a vet too.

Yeah, I think thats a bad idea as well. ;)

[bbf2]

it's a distinctly American story (obviously), so **** international box office.

I agree with the rest of your post, but regarding this quote, "**** international box office" is not really an attitude film makers can afford to have....at least, for a superhero movie where the goal is to have a megahit.

[drob127]

do they even have a script for this yet?

[sshuttari]

Is Will Smith The New "Captain America"?

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/willsmith.jpg

How do you sell a character as anachronistic as Captain America to a modern audience? Get the one actor so wide-appealing that he can sell anything to a global audience.

Out doing press for Spike Lee's "Miracle at St. Anna", actor Derek Luke let slip an interesting casting rumor he heard on the grapevine.

"I heard they offered Will Smith ‘Captain America'...just shows you how times have changed" the young thesp told MTV News. Luke himself said he is keen on certain roles - "I would love to jump into Green Lantern. There are a lot of stories I’m into… [like] Black Panther."

Of course Smith's schedule is highly in demand this report is little more than second-hand gossip for now, but it does bring up some interesting possibilities.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080908r.php

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wtf...

[EnderDeschain]

Well if they ever make a Black Panther movie, I hope Ben Affleck gets the role.

[ShnizMuffin]

This would suck.

[bbf2]

Red Skull: "It's time for you to die, Captain America!"

Captain America: "Aw, hell no."

[DragnFire22]

I would love for Will Smith to play Captain America.

[sshuttari]

To be fair Will Smith probably could pull off Captain America... but I'd rather see him do Green Lantern.

[drob127]

i wouldnt want him to play captain america at all. maybe black panther

[Dhamon22]

I like Will Smith alot, but he gets a big no from me on Captain America. There are plenty of Superheros he could play, I just don't think CA is one of them.

[bbf2]

http://img.waffleimages.com/8f799cf039f89307e23c6a34ab1760fbffc03338/370.jpg

[drob127]

i like dhjimon hounsou as the black panther...i cant wait to see the unseen footage from the hulk. i heard it has something else about captain america, i could be wrong though

[sshuttari]

I hope they get an unknown honestly.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

WTF!??? Will as Captain America!? No...Just no. He is a great actor but this is not the role for him. I wouldn't mind if he became the next Blade in the Blade reboot but...this is no no.

Why don't they get the guy from Eureka to play Captain America?

[drob127]

to be honest...i love this character but it makes me nervous that he hasnt been made into a film. besides spiderman, hulk and the FF (i know im missing a couple) he is one of the most popular...he should of been made before some of the others: electra, ghost rider, punisher IMO

[Fighting American]

There's a story to be told with Cap that can't be told with any other Marvel character, and it's a distinctly American story (obviously), so **** international box office. The "man out of time" angle has been done before, but not with a character like him, a character who embodies patriotism and service to one's country and all the things that everyone now thinks of as "jingoism" (yes, I had to look that up). It speaks volumes that something people used to believe in, actually believe in in ways that today's cynical society can't even really grasp, is now laughed at and given generic nonsense labels. Once upon a time, there was a place called the USA that instead of being perceived as the arrogant bully of the free world, was perceived as the hope of the free world. People scoff at that notion now and write it off as so much sentimental, self-aggrandizing horse****, but that's what I mean is that people actually believed it then. They didn't just say it or use it as a political platform, that belief in ourselves was part of the way we lived our lives and set our goals and functioned within our society.

If you took a man from back then, who embodied everything America wants to be (good, self-sacrificing, considerate of others, blah blah) and transplanted him to right now, where America is what it is, that's a perspective and a story that can't be achieved with any other Marvel character. That story deserves it's own movie, with Cap finding his place and getting his bearings in a place that he doesn't recognize anymore, before such an intriguing set-up gets overshadowed by his interaction with the other characters.

That story would have to be approached just right to come across as anything other than blind flag-waving or, more likely from a Hollywood product, rampant anti-Americanism (sorry, I don't know the fancy words). That's a pretty thin line to walk and a pretty delicate balance to achieve. In fact it's probably damn near impossible. But if it were done right it could be a much better movie than any other Marvel character could possibly give room for.


I think more people would love a patriotic movie than you think. Hollywood feeds us their views all the time. So we now have a generation of young people who think loving your country is the same as putting others down. I ain't cool to be patriotic.....IT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS.

But I suggest that there are more people who are tired of hearing that crap and would love to see Cap as he was created to be! A fighter for justice, country, freedom and defender of those who cannot defend themselves. An enemy to those that have an opposite view of that.

Jack Kirby would be spinning in his grave if we did anything less.

[Fighting American]

Is Will Smith The New "Captain America"?

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/willsmith.jpg

How do you sell a character as anachronistic as Captain America to a modern audience? Get the one actor so wide-appealing that he can sell anything to a global audience.

Out doing press for Spike Lee's "Miracle at St. Anna", actor Derek Luke let slip an interesting casting rumor he heard on the grapevine.

"I heard they offered Will Smith ‘Captain America'...just shows you how times have changed" the young thesp told MTV News. Luke himself said he is keen on certain roles - "I would love to jump into Green Lantern. There are a lot of stories I’m into… [like] Black Panther."

Of course Smith's schedule is highly in demand this report is little more than second-hand gossip for now, but it does bring up some interesting possibilities.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080908r.php

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wtf...



this has got to be a joke. Are we that far into the cosmic PC bunny hole???

Everybody remember how well he filled Robert Conrad's James West character????

No Will Smith as Cap.

[Jedi Potter]

I hope they get an unknown honestly.

I don't want an unknown because it will be another Brandon Routh. They need a well known actor but not necessarily a star. Hugh Jackman, Tobey McGuire, and Christan Bale weren't stars when they were picked for Wolverine, Spiderman, and Batman, but they were known actors.

[DragnFire22]

I guess it depends on your definition of "known" actors.

[FVD]

Uh, please. Will Smith as Captain America??? You have got to be kidding me. This is WWII we're talking about. I wouldn't mind if he played Falcon but I'd prefer somebody older for him.

[DragnFire22]

Smith turns 40 this month

[Fighting American]

Smith turns 40 this month

Doesn't matter if he's 26. He's not Captain America.

[drob127]

i really cant see smith as captain america. he's a great actor but i wouldnt want him to be cap

[FVD]

Smith turns 40 this month

Turning 40 is he? Well why not him play Falcon then. I'd still prefer somebody else though.

[drob127]

i've heard some rumors. is it true that there is some captain america footage in the extended version of TIH?

[sshuttari]

^No

[drob127]

i could of sworn LL said that in an interview

[King_of_Skid_Row]

If they're going to make CA black, why not cast Denzel Washington :confused: ? Will is good but he's not Denzel Washington.

[Fighting American]

If they're going to make CA black, why not cast Denzel Washington :confused: ? Will is good but he's not Denzel Washington.

no.:meanie:

[Ewok Droppings]

Will Smith is Hancock and I don't want to see him as CA. Cast an unknown for the part - it would be the best way.

[DragnFire22]

If they're going to make CA black, why not cast Denzel Washington :confused: ? Will is good but he's not Denzel Washington.

WTF? Denzel Washington? That makes no sense.

[drob127]

Will Smith is Hancock and I don't want to see him as CA. Cast an unknown for the part - it would be the best way.

i think your right. even though i would like a couple people to play him, i think its good to go with an unknown

[SouthsideX300]

I agree Drob. As far as makin capt black. Thats just stupid. Thats worse than making Kingpin black.

[DragnFire22]

Explain yourself.

[SouthsideX300]

Explain yourself.

Me?

Captain America was white. Making him black would be DUMB. Not cause its a different race. Its cause they are changing and tampering with the way he looked in the comics. He should be a COCKASIAN blonde man.

[drob127]

cockasian lmao

[DragnFire22]

me?

Captain america was white. Making him black would be dumb. Not cause its a different race. Its cause they are changing and tampering with the way he looked in the comics. He should be a cockasian blonde man.

lmao!

[SouthsideX300]

I didnt know any other way how to spell it.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Will probably wouldn't accept the role anyway. He turned down the role of Superman because he said 'Superman is white man'.

[SouthsideX300]

He turned down superman? Im sure they offered big willy the role then went with Routh

[abercrombie]

Denzel Washington as Captain America? That just wouldn't be true to the comic book.

[FVD]

I didnt know any other way how to spell it.

Caucasian. :)

[sshuttari]

yeah I agree, Will Smith is a fine actor. But choosing him for Captain America or Superman would be terrible.

He should do Green Lantern he would be perfect for that role.

[SouthsideX300]

I thought Seth Rogen was already Casted as the Green Lantern?

[Tornado]

No, Rogen is going to play the Green Hornet. Not the Green Lantern.

[drob127]

do you guys think that captain america can hold his own movie? i dont know why but i get a bad feeling thinking about this...it would be cool if he was introduced in the avengers, but im not that familiar with his whole timeline

[sshuttari]

Yeah if the directing and story are good.

[drob127]

i really wnna know how they are going to do a thor movie and put him in the avengers...i think its going to be really hard

[Double Down]

From the Licensing Show:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/Avengers.jpg

[Art_of_crime]

No, Rogen is going to play the Green Hornet. Not the Green Lantern.

either way I want to shoot the studio exec who green lit that.

[sshuttari]

Isn't Sam Worthington playing Captain America?

[drob127]

i havent heard that...i think those logos look cheesy. the iron man one is the only one that looks okay

[Diablo]

Only thing I've heard Sam Worthington next to comic book wise is Green Lantern. I think he himself was interested in it.

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

i havent heard that...i think those logos look cheesy. the iron man one is the only one that looks okay

They're pretty much the comic logos... probobly haven't changed them up for the movies yet.

I keep thinking they should move this up a few weeks to Independance Day weekend.... Cap on Independance Day it just makes sense.

[Dogbert0228]

They're pretty much the comic logos... probobly haven't changed them up for the movies yet.

I keep thinking they should move this up a few weeks to Independance Day weekend.... Cap on Independance Day it just makes sense.

I think it had something to do with Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt.II coming out in July, too so they moved Captain America from its original date.

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

I think it had something to do with Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt.II coming out in July, too so they moved Captain America from its original date.

Yeah but Harrys on July 15th now.

[casablanca3]

Isn't Sam Worthington playing Captain America?

I hope so, would be a great choice!

[EnderDeschain]

That's a friggin great choice, actually. IMDB says he's Australian, but he sounded Irish and all kinds of **** in Terminator. I imagine he wouldn't have a problem sounding American, most actors are ridiculous with affecting accents, it makes me sick. I can't do accents worth a darn, not one, and pecker-faces in Hollywood do all of them. Except Harrison Ford. K-19, lulz's. Anyway, yeah, that guy's an awesome idea. The irony of having an Aussie in the role just adds something to it. But his performance in Terminator leads me to believe he'd be great.

[drob127]

i havent seen terminator salvation yet but the scenes i did see him in he was great, but i dont know about him being captain america

[Tornado]

Yeah, I don't see him as Cap either.

[docstop]

Sam was pretty good in Terminator. I'd pick him way over the Dicaprio rumour.
Leo would do a decent job but you wouldn't be able to watch him without thinking about Titanic, Catch Me If You Can, and so on.

Out of all the super hero characters they have a chance to film a hero from the past. IMO, WW2 with Captain Americ, filmed like Saving Private Ryan would be amazing. All the recent movies are modern and it would be nice to see a classic super hero's origin from past history.

[sshuttari]

I'd pick him way over the Dicaprio rumour.
Leo would do a decent job but you wouldn't be able to watch him without thinking about Titanic, Catch Me If You Can, and so on.



If anything we should be glad it was DiCaprio. The man is an actual actor and basically becomes the character.

To say he doesn't qualify to be the iconic character is nonsense IMO.

[FVD]

Worthington is an interesting choice. There's been rumours of Chris Pine being offered the role too. Even Pine would be great as Cap.

I do think Joe Johnston will do a good job with this movie. Loved the Rocketeer. And I'd be fine with those Comic Book logos. The Captain America and Thor logos look awesome to these eyes of mine. ;)

[drob127]

im just throwing this out there and its probably not the best choice and i def have many choices above this guy and he doesnt quite fit but what about josh brolin? i dont know why but he is a good actor and thats a plus, but like i said its just a thought

[FVD]

Brolin is a good actor but I can't see him as Cap at all.

[Tornado]

He's probably a horrible actor, but look at the guy:

http://z.about.com/d/daysofourlives/1/0/O/1/-/-/MikeOHearnasTitan.jpg

[Tardumb]

Dad?!

[casablanca3]

Bahaha I still say Worthington but it's tough to think of people on the spot. An announcement should be soon seeing as how Thor casting is coming along and Cap comes out the same summer.

[Art_of_crime]

If anything we should be glad it was DiCaprio. The man is an actual actor and basically becomes the character.

To say he doesn't qualify to be the iconic character is nonsense IMO.

I have to disagree. I think he is like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. He is just him on screen. He just plays every part as himself. Not since "Whats eating Gilbert Grape" have I seen him really embody a role, and let the character be bigger than him.
I mean no disrespect in my disagreement, and I'm not trying to change your mind. just saying.

[Fanible]

Brad Pitt just plays every part as himself?

[Art_of_crime]

Brad Pitt just plays every part as himself?

have you ever seen him truly embody a character. To the point where you almost forgot who he was playing and only saw the character. Or was it always just "hey look its brad pitt pretending to be ________?"

[Fanible]

have you ever seen him truly embody a character.

Um, yeah. Several times.

[Ramplate]

I think he would be too distracting too

[DragnFire22]

have you ever seen him truly embody a character. To the point where you almost forgot who he was playing and only saw the character. Or was it always just "hey look its brad pitt pretending to be ________?"

Snatch? Benjamin Button? Jesse James?

[Justin]

have you ever seen him truly embody a character. To the point where you almost forgot who he was playing and only saw the character. Or was it always just "hey look its brad pitt pretending to be ________?"

Incorrect. DragnFire just listed several films with characters that he completely embodied. There is some stupid misconception that Brad Pitt isn't a real actor, because of his "persona", but it's the complete opposite.

He's a good actor whether you like him or not.

[IanTheCool]

Yeah, I agree. Brad Pitt is a really good actor. A lot of people overlook that because of his high celebrity status.

[Tardumb]

Do you people really think Brad Pitt walks around acting like Tyler Durden? hahaha....that's sad :(

[casablanca3]

Also add in Fight Club of course and 12 Monkeys which he was insane and insanely good in. You don't even realize it is Pitt in that one.

[Art_of_crime]

what is this the cult of Brad?

[Justin]

Yes.

[Tolkien]

Praise be the Pitt.

[sshuttari]

I have to disagree. I think he is like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. He is just him on screen. He just plays every part as himself. Not since "Whats eating Gilbert Grape" have I seen him really embody a role, and let the character be bigger than him.
I mean no disrespect in my disagreement, and I'm not trying to change your mind. just saying.

Jeez I don't agree at all... Revolutionary Road and The Aviator I didn't see Leo in those films. Some will even say Blood Diamond to an extent.

Brad Pitt???? Snatch and Fight Club... how did you see Brad Pitt in those films is mind blowing to me.

[Double Down]

Unsurprisingly, Steve Rogers is coming back to life in the comics:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2009/06/15/2009-06-15_some_comic_relief_captain_america_is_coming_bac k_to_life_in_a_new_fivepart_serie.html

[Justin]

I can't believe some people think DiCaprio can't act.

[Tardumb]

Apparently they've never seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape....He's been an actor from day one, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to quit watching movies.

[Art_of_crime]

Unsurprisingly, Steve Rogers is coming back to life in the comics:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2009/06/15/2009-06-15_some_comic_relief_captain_america_is_coming_bac k_to_life_in_a_new_fivepart_serie.html

i'm impressed they waited as long as they did.

Hope Bruce Wayne isn't dead for 2.5 years.

[Tolkien]

I can't believe some people think DiCaprio can't act.

I can't believe that of all the no-talent actors out there, people are actually picking on DiCaprio and Pitt, two of the few "great" actors out there...

[FVD]

Yeah what a laugh. I actually think Pitt is okay but nothing amazing. After all I still loathe his performance in Troy. :rolleyes:

As for DiCaprio well that is utterly ridiculous. And I actually can't believe the idiots who post underneath the headlines have labelled Tony Scott a hack director. Moronic I tell you. :nono:

[docstop]

Pitt and Dicaprio are both good actors but the character of Captain America/Steve Rogers needs an unknown or not very well known actor. Not saying that they wouldn't do a good job but when I watch them they never quite become the character they play. For some they must but not for me.

Looking beyond just Pitt and Dicaprio, I woulnd't want the poster to say CAPTAIN AMERICA is (insert big A-list actor).

[drob127]

i like dicaprio a lot but i cant see him as captain american he's too skinny. brad pitt would be a good fit

[FVD]

Steve Rogers has to be young and he's supposed to be depicted as being in his mid to late 20's. I'm all for Chris Pine taking on the role. :D

[EnderDeschain]

Chris Pine's not a bad choice either, really. Sam Worthington was good too, but I still think Matt Damon would be the most awesome. Any one of those guys has the look for it, I think, but the question is whether the movie will handle the character right. I hope they cast him soon. I agree with some folks in this thread in that it'll probably end up being someone we don't really know well, like they did with Thor.

[Tolkien]

I don't know about that Sam Worthington guy. I mean, he's just coming up too fast. He's in everything for crying out loud. lol. Terminator, Avatar, Clash of the Titans...

[halo7]

Glad to see people defending Pitt and Dicaprio. The real question is, how many people would defend Tom Cruise?

[drob127]

i like cruise but not for this lol

[casablanca3]

i like cruise but not for this lol

Likewise. Love the Cruise but clearly not for Cap haha.

[drob127]

i would really like to see cruise in a comic book movie though, hero or villian

[Jordan KO]

who's the villain?Red skull anybody?

[drob127]

they havent said anything yet but i would guess it would be him

[FVD]

It has to be Red Skull. It's a no brainer. Baron Zemo is likely to appear also though.

[casablanca3]

i would really like to see cruise in a comic book movie though, hero or villian

He was originally supposed to be Iron Man way, way back when it was first being talked about. I thought he would make a great Iron Man but Downey was the right and best choice.

[bbf2]

Red Skull should definitely be played by John Malkovich. In his "Rounders" voice (I don't care if the Skull is German and not Russian)

[drob127]

i love malkovich

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

Hmmm Tom Cruise as the Red Skull... I mean no one expected he could play an ******* in Tropic Thunder Either right? ;)

[Jordan KO]

Namor cameo anyone

[FVD]

Yeah I'd love to see the Invaders get together despite the fact that there might be a slight rights issue with regards to the Human Torch at Fox. But the two original Torches I hope don't have any affiliation whatsoever. If they went ahead with it I'm sure Rothman will kick up a big s**t. :mad:

[Evilest Dead]

i would really like to see cruise in a comic book movie though, hero or villian

He's connected to Sleeper which is about a double agent in a criminal organization where most of the members have super powers. The book opens with him trying to come to terms with getting in too deep with the organization and being cut off from the good guys.

I don't know what capacity Cruise is involved, though (producing, lead, villain, etc.).

He would be completely awesome as Tao the main villain.

The comic is by Ed Brubaker and Sean Philips and is really good.

[drob127]

i meant like a well known comic book movie like an iron man or spiderman type thing

[docstop]

Speaking about Tom Cruise. He could be a really old Robin in Batman 14. lol

[drob127]

i could kinda see him as iron fist

[macca]

What about Simon baker for captain i think he could do it.

[drob127]

i dont know why but i keep seeing aaron eckhart as captain americas if he buffed up a little

[macca]

Jensen ackles anyone.

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

i dont know why but i keep seeing aaron eckhart as captain americas if he buffed up a little

My choice as well, but he was already Dent/Two Face, not sure if it would work.

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

I also like Jeffrey Donovan of Burn Notice fame. He was actually my pick to play Hal Jordan way back when the GL film was announced, but I could also see him as Cap.

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Jensen ackles anyone.

Good choice, might look a bit young to be the Captain, but I'd have no problem with Ackles.

[drob127]

if he already wasnt the punisher i'd say thomas jane

[FVD]

Ackles is actually a good choice. Cap doesn't have to be too old either. If they can cast an actor close to 30 years of age then that would be fine.

[Book]

I'm sorry but the whole concept of adapting a frisbee-wielding guy in a suit colored as the american flag to the silver screen is dumb. This will never be good.

[drob127]

thats a first

[Jordan KO]

I'm sorry but the whole concept of adapting a frisbee-wielding guy in a suit colored as the american flag to the silver screen is dumb. This will never be good.

See this is Al Queda in disguise:mad:

[drob127]

damn nazi's

[abercrombie]

the big comic-con international is coming up this week. i'm hoping the actor for captain america will be announced sometime this week.

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

See this is Al Queda in disguise:mad:

So, because he feels a guy dressed in a leotard decorated to resemble the American flag is a lame concept makes him a member of a sleeper cell or something? Maybe he just thinks the costume is corny. Your opinions might be the most useless and inflamatory on these boards lately. I however always seem to have the misfortune of checking up on the topics where you post them.

[drob127]

i dont think we will find out who will be playing him at comic con but i hope we do

[Jordan KO]

So, because he feels a guy dressed in a leotard decorated to resemble the American flag is a lame concept makes him a member of a sleeper cell or something? Maybe he just thinks the costume is corny. Your opinions might be the most useless and inflamatory on these boards lately. I however always seem to have the misfortune of checking up on the topics where you post them.

wow you must really hate America!!! don't be dissin Cappy

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Actually Jordan, I have no problem with America. What I do have a problem w/ is someone who just takes things out of context and refuses to grasp what the person was actually trying to say. I'm sure Book doesn't hate America,(maybe he does, but thats his opinion) he was just saying he thinks Caps suit and giant ass shield might come off as corny. And that's a VERY valid point because the recent trend in the comic book hero genre on the big screen is basing the character in reality. I am on the side of those who like Captain America's costume, but because I feel that way wouldn't give me the right to accuse someone of hating his or her country or being a member of a terrorist organization, I mean what an AMERICAN state of mind, allowing others to speak their mind freely :omg:.

[Tornado]

I think it'd be interesting to base the first half of the film in World War 2, and then have the second half be in the present day where he could face those issues of patriotism, terrorism, and where the U.S. stands in the eyes of the rest of the world. Maybe that'd be better suited for the sequel or something.

[Jordan KO]

Actually Jordan, I have no problem with America. What I do have a problem w/ is someone who just takes things out of context and refuses to grasp what the person was actually trying to say. I'm sure Book doesn't hate America,(maybe he does, but thats his opinion) he was just saying he thinks Caps suit and giant ass shield might come off as corny. And that's a VERY valid point because the recent trend in the comic book hero genre on the big screen is basing the character in reality. I am on the side of those who like Captain America's costume, but because I feel that way wouldn't give me the right to accuse someone of hating his or her country or being a member of a terrorist organization, I mean what an AMERICAN state of mind, allowing others to speak their mind freely :omg:.

thats a really good point, but i was kidding about Book and in a way i feel u egged me on, but whatever its all a joke..nothing i actually meant

[Jordan KO]

I think it'd be interesting to base the first half of the film in World War 2, and then have the second half be in the present day where he could face those issues of patriotism, terrorism, and where the U.S. stands in the eyes of the rest of the world. Maybe that'd be better suited for the sequel or something.

You said it

[drob127]

nice idea tornado. what ya have to remember is the timelines in iron man (shield in the background, i dont know if its true but i heard that tony remakes it for him or something) and the incredible hulk (cap frozen in the snow) i would love to see like a saving private ryan camera style for the ww2 scenes and then i think it would be cool to deal with his issues of this not being his time and all. and if i may comment on the costume. i like it in a comic book, but if it were in a movie it does look a little weird and can be changed in minor detail to make it look cool. i say take the mask off and just have the mask that just goes around the eyes like robin and if red skull is the villian my vote goes for ed harris

[Jordan KO]

i like his WW2 Captain America aror, they should makeit more modernized like a special ops suit today, and i agree with just covering his eyes with a robin type mask

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

I like the idea of the HULK releasing Cappy in the deleted opening of the Incredible HULK. That along w/ the ending of the same film and the shield appearing in Iron Man are nice little tie ins to the Avengers, I just wish the deleted opening from HULK could somehow be incorporated in the Captain America movie to explain how he was released from deep freeze.

[casablanca3]

They sure seem to be taking their time with casting Cap. Thor major cast is all done and they start shooting in January. This comes out less than two months later so shouldn't they be close to picking a Cap?

[Jordan KO]

it would be kool to have Namor find Cappy, so they could easily incorporate him with a cameo.

[drob127]

I like the idea of the HULK releasing Cappy in the deleted opening of the Incredible HULK. That along w/ the ending of the same film and the shield appearing in Iron Man are nice little tie ins to the Avengers, I just wish the deleted opening from HULK could somehow be incorporated in the Captain America movie to explain how he was released from deep freeze.

i agree

the only thing i dont understand is the time line. now i could be off but if iron man and the incredible hulk arent in the same time it doesnt make sense

iron man came out first. we see caps shield meaning that cap is revived and tony is studying it or something else. then the hulk came out and in the very beginning we see cap frozen with his shield. so how does tony have the shield if we see it in the hulk? plus ross knows about the super soldier program aka cap and tony knows about it too and i assume he knows about cap or just the program... i know im disecting this to death but i hope they explain it

[Jordan KO]

here's a theory The Alternate opening then iron man, then the incredible hulk. Becuzz technically i heard iron man 2 takes place 6 months after the 1st so in between that Incredible hulk, and the Alternate happens a bit before iron man. becuzz the way banner travels as an outlaw it would take him a long time to git from Alaska to Central America.

or Tony Stark was just experimenting and creating a new type of armor

or inconsistant writing

or other?

[drob127]

i dont know if its true or not but i did hear that they took place at the same time, but like i said i dont know

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

They sure seem to be taking their time with casting Cap. Thor major cast is all done and they start shooting in January. This comes out less than two months later so shouldn't they be close to picking a Cap?

Cap is much more iconic than Thor... a miscast would be a complete and utter disaster and ruin not only any possibility of a sequel but also potentially sabotage the Avengers movie as well. Personally I'm glad they're taking the time.

[drob127]

you make a good point...i dont like the thor casting at all and i still have no idea how they are going to intertwine him into the other movies

[FVD]

I think Chris Hemsworth ain't too bad a choice for Thor actually. Branagh knows what he's doing.

[abercrombie]

I've been attending the Comic-Con. No real leaks yet on Thor or Captain America. Good panels tho' like Megan Fox showing up and other stars.

[EnderDeschain]

and if i may comment on the costume. i like it in a comic book, but if it were in a movie it does look a little weird and can be changed in minor detail to make it look cool. i say take the mask off and just have the mask that just goes around the eyes like robin and if red skull is the villian my vote goes for ed harris

The costume can work if they base it on how he looked in the Ultimates. Like this:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/EnderDeschain/Cap.jpg

Maybe not the A, I don't think that would play out well onscreen. But other than that I really don't think it would come across as any goofier or stupid-looking than Spider-Man's costume. In fact, it could probably look better. Spidey's is just way too elaborate and impractical in its design, but it translated well anyway. This one for Cap is somewhat realistic, and him basically wearing the American flag is not only true to his character, it's almost essential. He came up during World War 2, and was supposed to represent the country and hope and all that jazz, and back then wearing a flag would have been entirely appropriate. It's necessary that they keep that aspect of his costume design, as it's a visual reminder of who he is and the jarring difference between the world he came from and the one we live in. But yeah, some tweaking would be necessary.

Ed Harris as the Red Skull is a great idea, by the way. It hadn't occurred to me, but now that it has it seems almost just right. Jurgen Prochnow would've been t-totally perfect ten or fifteen years ago, but he's too old now. Harris would be swell, I'm sure.

As far as the concerns about the timelines and the placement of Cap's shield in the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man movies, the explanation could be relatively simple. Cap's shield is a one-of-a-kind item, and it was lost with him after he was frozen. SHIELD, now looking into the super-soldier horse**** again, contracts Tony Stark to try and develop something similar with properties comparable to the unobtainable vibranium of the first. That's what we saw in his lab, just a replica he was working on. The original is still frozen with Cap.