Superman: Man of Steel news, pics, info [Archive]

Dogbert0228

07-13-2007, 03:32 PM

So, we know the sequel to Superman Returns is Superman: Man of Steel and Routh and Spacey are returning, and Brainiac and Metallo are rumored to be tied into thhis film somehow. This sequel two years away with an unfinished script, but we can still speculate away. The Superman Returns sequel thread seemed to have become just a bunch of Superman Returns bashing.

I'm glad we have Lex back. Superman needs Lex Luthor, and now that Luthor knows about Lois and her kid, that dynamic should be exploited in this sequel, and James Marsden should return to have it out with Clark. But the action! Everyone said Superman was a pussy in Returns, and I agree, but that was kind of the point, him sacrificing himself. This new one has to have some action! And since Luthor is a sniveling ***** without kryptonite, Brainiac and/or Metallo seem like a great choice for villains that will bring some action.

Also, any robots or technology LuthorCorp builds would provide for some great fight scenes too. Any other ideas on plot? Will a lower budget hurt this film? It seems like maybe it will force them to make a big expensive fight scene and save it for the end?

FranklinTard

07-13-2007, 04:24 PM

yes please do not close this thread, the other one is strictly sora kahn defending that stupid opinion of his.

Sora Kahn

07-13-2007, 06:21 PM

It's good to know Spacey will be back. As for a supervillain, I'm hoping for Metallo because he'd be good super powered henchman for Luthor.

FVD

07-13-2007, 09:22 PM

Why not have the three of them. I am sure Singer is aware that the majority of the fans want Brainiac for the primary antagonist in the next feature.

If Metallo can play the henchman kinda role and used correctly then no worries from my end. :)

Apparently Keri Russell lost out to Bosworth in the previous film. Damn what a bummer that would have been. Russell would have been wonderful as Lois. And at the right age too. :(

Sora Kahn

07-13-2007, 09:36 PM

^At this point, we just have to pray that Bosworth settles in to the role. I'm also hoping that they really focus in on the father/son( Superman/Jason)story arc. It has potential to be quite a powerful story.

Somehow I get the feeling that Luthor will be the main, MAIN villain and there will be a side villain. Like in X2, the main villain was Stryker but the side villain was Deathstrike. Which is why I think Singer might go with Luthor and Metallo.

FVD

07-13-2007, 09:46 PM

Well if he does I would hope to see some elements of Lexcorp being introduced. I'm sure he still has some fortunes in his possession. And please I want Kitty gone gone GONE!!! Bring in Mercy for crying out loud. Actually let's take that bad. I suppose some bickering between Kitty and Mercy would be a little entertaining. ;)

Sora Kahn

07-13-2007, 09:49 PM

Mercy and Kitty. That would actually be cool. And having Lex create Lexcorp would also be cool. He can be the sly businessman and the ruthless gangster roled into one. One things for sure, he's definitely going to come after Jason and sadly, I think he's going to kill Richard.

Dogbert0228

07-14-2007, 12:10 PM

Lex killing Richard would make things interesting, and if Singer is following Superman II continuity, I think LexCorp is already in place, assuming it wasn't taken down when he was in jail.

Scorpio82

07-15-2007, 10:07 AM

At this point, I don't care what the story is anymore. Just as long as there's no scene where he and his kid fly around fighting supervillains like father and son. One of the biggest nuances about Superman is that the bad guys always use kryptonite to kill him, and I'd like to see him get clobbered the normal way for once.

Sora Kahn

07-16-2007, 02:25 AM

I don't think Singer will have Superman and Jason flying around saving people. But it depends on Jason's future. For all we know he might become the big screen's take on Bizarro. Imagine, he grows up and thinks that the best way to help others is to use his powers to brutally kill people. A Superman that rationalizes destruction.

EmperorJoker

07-25-2007, 04:39 PM

Is anyone anticipating this? I AM!!!

Sora Kahn

07-25-2007, 11:53 PM

^Surprisingly, I'm excited about this movie. I have a feeling that it's really going to deliver.

Nick Kitt

07-26-2007, 12:12 AM

SUPERMAN RETURNS was brilliantly conceived. Depending from which universe you hail, the movie can be appreciated on two levels.On one hand it follows the Chris Reeve movies and on the other it is a perfect sequel to SMALLVILLE. Roush could pass for an older Welling,especially after being away for five years in space, Bosworth does look like a slightly older Erica Durance,which is probably why they cast her instead of following Margot Kidder's Lane. Spacey follows Rosenblum's TV Lex real well. On SMALLVILLE,you know there's a war coming and just may be the results of that war left Luthor with nothing which is why he kinda swindles the rich widow in the beginning to gain to the financing to fight Supes. So I favor that the movie sequels the TV show. No slight to the great Chris Reeves and his wonderful efforts,it's just, to me, it makes more sense that SMALLVILLE is a prelude to SUPERMAN RETURNS. Everything seems to fit.

SouthsideX300

08-06-2007, 12:59 AM

So now there is a confirmed two villians in this any guesses? and i hope that doesnt mean lex luthor is one of them.. DarkSeid would be a fanboy's dream.

Sora Kahn

08-06-2007, 01:34 AM

^No, Lex is definitely one of them. I'm hoping Metallo is the second villain because I think he'd be the right fit for this movie's story. Metallo's story should be depressing and should in some ways mirror Superman's situation. Also it should make Lex look like a real evil son of a bi***.

Alien

08-06-2007, 09:25 AM

It'll probably be Lothor and Brainiac.

I can't see Darkseid being used in a movie without confuseing movie goers with the Apokolips and New Genesis storys.

Metallo could be done well as long as it's not the same as the Lois & Clark episode, Metallo.

nyxboxnyboy

08-06-2007, 03:45 PM

I bet Superman Man of Steel will better than Superman Return. I want to see Metallo and Brainiac are next supervillain against Superman.

SouthsideX300

08-08-2007, 06:23 AM

Doomsday and Darkseid to kill Superman and send this franchise in the grave.

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

08-08-2007, 01:57 PM

Doomsday and Darkseid to kill Superman and send this franchise in the grave.

Yeah, thats right, because no Superman franchise is better than one that has a few flaws or is different than the one you'd like...or are you not a Superman fan at all?? I'd rather have this current direction than any of the previous aborted concepts, or have Smallville's bastardized version of the Superman mythos tossed up on the big screen. I'm not totally sold on some of Singer's ideas of Superman, but it's closer than Kevin Smith,Tim Burton, or the retards that run Smallville could produce. And killing Superman would only create another sequel for you to whine about, because no way would they kill him off and leave it that way, even in the comics they brought him back.

Alien

08-08-2007, 03:21 PM

I wouldn't call Smallville's take on the Superman tale "bastardized" it's a unique take on an old story.

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

08-08-2007, 04:05 PM

I wouldn't call Smallville's take on the Superman tale "bastardized" it's a unique take on an old story.

Maybe calling it "bastardized" is a bit harsh, especially since I do sometimes enjoy SV on occasion. However, I'm not sure if it's so much "unique" as it is just taking a bunch of events that happen in the comics and the characters Clark meets and throwing them into one big pot and seeing what they can serve us on a weekly basis. I do tend to make believe that SV is an Elseworlds like reality because of the inane order in which the characters and events have happened in the SV timeline. Now, in some peoples view I'm sure thats how Superman Returns seemed to them so, it's really just a matter of ones own opinion.

Alien

08-08-2007, 04:18 PM

Well it kinda is Elseworlds coz it's not in continuity with the comics.

Movie Nerd

08-09-2007, 04:29 PM

Maybe calling it "bastardized" is a bit harsh, especially since I do sometimes enjoy SV on occasion. However, I'm not sure if it's so much "unique" as it is just taking a bunch of events that happen in the comics and the characters Clark meets and throwing them into one big pot and seeing what they can serve us on a weekly basis. I do tend to make believe that SV is an Elseworlds like reality because of the inane order in which the characters and events have happened in the SV timeline. Now, in some peoples view I'm sure thats how Superman Returns seemed to them so, it's really just a matter of ones own opinion.

Smallvilles take on the history of Superman has been one of the most creative and innovative ways Ive ever seen the story portrayed.

It is head and shoulders above any Superman tv show that has come before it. And as far as movies go, only the original 2 Superman movies beat it.

Not to mention the way theyve come up with storyline arcs have been incredible.

How they brought about Bizarro last season was probably the coolest and most plausible story theyve ever had for him, including the comic books and cartoons.

Alien

08-09-2007, 04:38 PM

Smallvilles take on the history of Superman has been one of the most creative and innovative ways Ive ever seen the story portrayed.

It is head and shoulders above any Superman tv show that has come before it. And as far as movies go, only the original 2 Superman movies beat it.

Not to mention the way theyve come up with storyline arcs have been incredible.

How they brought about Bizarro last season was probably the coolest and most plausible story theyve ever had for him, including the comic books and cartoons.
Superman the Animated Show was nearly on a par and then Justice League (Unlimited) was better than Smallville but they are cartoons and JL/JLU was more tha just Superman.

Tolkien

08-09-2007, 05:45 PM

Alien

08-09-2007, 05:49 PM

First off, Superman: The Animated Series was never just on par with Smallville, it is Superman at his best. The entire thing is an ode to the Man of Steel in every way possible. Superman: The Animated Series is not on par... It is better by far. Sooooo much better.
Actually to tell the truth, I've never seen see Superman: The Animated Series, I don't know if it was shown in the UK and if it was I was probably really young and it would've been 6am or something. (Do kids really get up that early to watch cartoons at the weekend?)

I just really love Batman: The Animated Series and JL/JLU which were they same style so I guessed they were as good.

Tolkien

08-09-2007, 07:51 PM

Actually to tell the truth, I've never seen see Superman: The Animated Series, I don't know if it was shown in the UK and if it was I was probably really young and it would've been 6am or something. (Do kids really get up that early to watch cartoons at the weekend?)

I just really love Batman: The Animated Series and JL/JLU which were they same style so I guessed they were as good.

What are you talking about? I didn't start watching that show until I was already out of high school, lmmfao. Actually, in the U.S., it was a Saturday Morning thing. Kids would be up even before their parents to watch cartoons and eat crap foods before their parents made them breakfest. Anyways, I started watching the show during my first year in the university as something to pass the time while I was up late at night doing paperwork for my early morning classes.

Being a comic book junkie in my early years, the show not only pleased it's loyal originality fans, but also opened the door to the younger generation. And Batman's Animated Series... They were in the same universe and time slots. They would air back 2 back, and they would even have multiple crossovers. I loved the Batman one more... But Superman was right up there.

SouthsideX300

08-10-2007, 03:08 AM

Alien

08-10-2007, 06:04 AM

What are you talking about? I didn't start watching that show until I was already out of high school, lmmfao. Actually, in the U.S., it was a Saturday Morning thing. Kids would be up even before their parents to watch cartoons and eat crap foods before their parents made them breakfest. Anyways, I started watching the show during my first year in the university as something to pass the time while I was up late at night doing paperwork for my early morning classes.

Being a comic book junkie in my early years, the show not only pleased it's loyal originality fans, but also opened the door to the younger generation. And Batman's Animated Series... They were in the same universe and time slots. They would air back 2 back, and they would even have multiple crossovers. I loved the Batman one more... But Superman was right up there.
Well :P to you... I might start watching what I can find online, it's never on TV so internet is the way to go.

I was never good at getting up, I remember watching Saturday morning shows and seeing trailers for shows that would come on earlier and I'd be annoyed coz it was too early.

Sora Kahn

08-22-2007, 04:39 AM

You know what would be weird. If in the sequel, the villain was Brainiac and something happens where Supe and Lex have to work together to stop him.

P.S- I don't want Lex to die. There are rumors saying that Singer is going to kill him off. But I do not, repeat, do not want Lex killed.

Movie Nerd

08-23-2007, 03:09 PM

drob127

08-31-2007, 07:00 PM

first off superman returns wasnt good...it was okay and i am a super superman fan the sequel should have either brainiac doomsday or darkseid i think that they shouldnt have told us bout his kid until the last one to me it kinda throws things off for right now and with singer who i think only made one good movie usual suspects helming it again i dont think it will be good, but ihope im wrong, because i believe every generation should be presented with a great superman tale and i am still waiting for ours

SouthsideX300

09-01-2007, 04:50 AM

Man of Steel: Superman and Superboy face off against Darkseid and Doomsday.

Hypestyle

09-16-2007, 02:38 PM

I want some villains he can actually fight in the next film--

Darkseid, Zod & phantom zone villains, Bizarro, Parasite, etc..

the fight scenes should have lots of punching, kicking, throwing cars and buildings at each other...

Sora Kahn

09-16-2007, 04:27 PM

I think Superman would look weird if he attempted to kick someone. He should stick to punching.

drob127

09-22-2007, 05:09 PM

SouthsideX300

10-03-2007, 07:09 PM

Yeah but knowning thats what we want, we'll get more love story and being a deadbeat father.

drob127

10-03-2007, 08:50 PM

yea haha. if they stick with action instead of romance it should be good im just not a singer fan

moonlightpictures

10-23-2007, 12:55 PM

Scorpio82

10-23-2007, 01:20 PM

moonlightpictures

10-23-2007, 04:01 PM

These people should really just sit down and watch the Saturday morning cartoons for once. The Superman portrayed in "Justice League Unlimited" is an excellent reference for what they're trying to achieve. Both his character, as well as Lex Luthor, are a lot more realistic and mature than any of the movie versions.

Not to mention it's a good reference on how to use Superman's powers properly. Superman is so darn inconsistent in the movies on how fast and strong he really is. Not to mention they keep inventing powers for him. It's a good reference on how make an invincible man vulnerable without giving him illegitimate children.

I completely agree. Someone needs to sit down and plot out three movies or so, stay consistant, make Lex Luthors character more believable (kinda like they did in Smallville; I love the villian/businessman/scientist lex) and stick with the Superman story -- a life a death trilogy or something.

I actually wrote and outline and wish I wrote a script so I can send it in for a pitch, but I would likely get thrown on the huge pile already without having any true connections with Warner Brothers.

MasterChief117

10-23-2007, 05:22 PM

Yeah bad think bout the Superman Returns is Lex Luthor never did the kicking ribs while on ground little dirtier than it was.

drob127

10-23-2007, 08:33 PM

here's a idea for a superman movie...STOP SHOWING US HOW HE BECAME SUPERMAN AND MA AND PA KENT AND JUST GIVE US A SUPERMAN ACTION MOVIE, kids will love it and so will everyone else. remove the child thing cuz that was a terrible idea well atleast for the first one it is. if that were done in the last one maybe, but i still dont think u should put a kid in there. and listen im a big fan of lex luthor, but c'mon now give is a villian besides him or put him in there with another villian. im sick of watching just lex, i know im not the only one. and i also expect more out of spacey if he's in it, i was surprised at him in returns.

King_of_Skid_Row

10-27-2007, 10:12 PM

I don't know, I don't think Superman will ever be a popular icon again. Every where I go, it seems like everybody hates Superman. Maybe the world doesn't need him or want him.

I'd personally like to see an epic Supe film with him taking on Dark Seid, but DC has to follow what's popular. And Supe just isn't popular it seems.

drob127

10-28-2007, 07:59 PM

he is popular its just that movies like SR downgrade the character and make us despise him instead of the people who made it

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

10-28-2007, 11:37 PM

So, the writers are not returning to Man of Steel, meaning there are going to be some pitches for the new superman, and Mark Miller is pitching a story that will revamp the entire mythology. Personally, I think Superman needs a revamp to get kids involved. Superman Returns was awkward, it was like made for the kid back in the 70's when the original first came out, and the kids today didn't understand because it didn't show much back-story like krypton etc etc.

It'll be interesting to see if Superman will fall back into hibernation because of lack of writers. We will see.

Well, unfortunately, you can scratch Millar off the list of writers. According to Millar himself in this interview w/ SuperheroHype.com http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6441 his employment w/ Marvel means he won't be involved w/ any upcoming Superman or DC film projects. What a shame DC can't find a way to make an exception for it's most well known hero to be shown in a worthy big screen adaptation. Instead they'll hire a couple of college kids who only know Superman from the Superfriends and the less than Super version on Smallville. If the brainiacs over at Warners/DC could just pull their collective heads out of their asses and use comic book writers to write the story, maybe we could finally have a Superman film that stands up to the legend. I've always loved DC over Marvel, and I hate seeing awesome Marvel adaptations and sub par watered down dreck like the WB serves up. Supposedly this franchise is gonna get another re-boot ala' Ang Lee's HULK, so why not start fresh. No more homages to Chris Reeves and Richard Donner, no more skrawny little Supermen that have a hard time battling Lex Luthor and his common thugs. I want a Superman than looks believable, that looks invincible. I'm sure the first criticism of that line of thinking is, a big musclebound actor can't act. We're talking comic books here boys and girls, not Shakespeare, we don't need a thespian (which Routh definitely was not) so why not go for a big strong Superman,who's a decent actor. I also think the big pitfall for casting Supes is they cast him more for his resemblance to Clark than Superman, so if they can come off as gawky, awkward and clumsy than they will try to work out the Superman part by bulking them up. I'm sure DC will find a way to disapoint nonetheless, so I'll just have to be satisfied w/ the excellent work being done w/ Batman and the upcoming TDK and just face the reality that these clowns will never get t right when it comes to the greatest Superhero ever, Superman.

King_of_Skid_Row

10-29-2007, 02:35 AM

^Well....can we at least hope for a Superman on the same level as Fantastic Four?

drob127

10-29-2007, 08:09 PM

i just get annoyed of how they keep showing us the same thing. i dont want them to change the history or origin of the character just show us what hasnt been done yet, a great action filled, goosbumps all over, clapping in ur seat and cheering for the man in blue, superman movie

King_of_Skid_Row

10-29-2007, 08:36 PM

^It's never been done. And I'm not sure if it can be done.

drob127

10-30-2007, 08:57 PM

your right

kakarot069

10-31-2007, 02:37 PM

as far as I'm concerned, I hope this movie never gets made

drob127

10-31-2007, 09:47 PM

i wish i could write this movie...they wouldnt even have to pay me

SouthsideX300

11-01-2007, 02:06 AM

This movie would rock if doomsday or darkseid came out in it.

Alien

11-01-2007, 05:11 AM

This movie would rock if doomsday or darkseid came out in it.

You want a movie were Doomsday or Darkseid is coming out? I didn't even know they were gay! ;)

SouthsideX300

11-01-2007, 07:59 PM

woah.. have you seen doomsday? or Darkseid?? I think thats the first time anyone ever referenced them as being gay

drob127

11-01-2007, 08:39 PM

i like doomsday but he looked corney as shi+ in superman:doomsday...atleast he did IMO. i would take darkseid or doomsday, but id rather have darkseid first and then do the whole doomsday/death of superman in the last one or the one before last ya kno?

SouthsideX300

11-03-2007, 02:32 AM

Yes, Do It.

drob127

11-03-2007, 09:43 PM

i would write this movie for free as a matter of fact i would pay them, i have so many ideas its unreal

IanTheCool

11-04-2007, 10:45 AM

First off, Superman: The Animated Series was never just on par with Smallville, it is Superman at his best. The entire thing is an ode to the Man of Steel in every way possible. Superman: The Animated Series is not on par... It is better by far. Sooooo much better.

I agree! animated series rocks. i still cant get that image out of my head of darkseid marching down the streets with superman on taht tank thingy all chained up and helpless and whatnot.

IanTheCool

11-04-2007, 10:49 AM

well according to movies.com, they are talking about orlando bloom as zod.

http://movies.go.com/comics/feature?featureid=898096

King_of_Skid_Row

11-04-2007, 12:50 PM

Terrific. I heard they fired the original writers who were going to use Dark Seid as the villain. Instead they hire new writers who are going to use Zod.

SouthsideX300

11-04-2007, 01:32 PM

Ugh, idiots.

Alien

11-04-2007, 04:34 PM

well according to movies.com, they are talking about orlando bloom as zod.

http://movies.go.com/comics/feature?featureid=898096
Bloom as Zod... They have more sence than that, surely!

King_of_Skid_Row

11-04-2007, 05:51 PM

Well...you know, I think Bloom would be better at playing a villain than a good guy.

MasterChief117

11-04-2007, 05:58 PM

as far as I'm concerned, I hope this movie never gets made

True quote from aTrekkie but then again its not been so happy go lucky in the last 6 years for Star Trek, understandable.

Scorpio82

11-04-2007, 09:44 PM

Well...you know, I think Bloom would be better at playing a villain than a good guy.

I agree. I'm actually watching "Superman II" right now, and I can seriously picture him in that role. Just grease back his hair, get that funny mustache back on him, and have him work on his "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD." It'd be like casting Heath Ledger as The Joker.

drob127

11-04-2007, 10:45 PM

i could see him in that role but to be honest id like someone older dont ask me y

drob127

11-04-2007, 10:45 PM

he might look like him a lil but wont have the evil behind him

Movie Nerd

11-04-2007, 10:46 PM

I agree! animated series rocks. i still cant get that image out of my head of darkseid marching down the streets with superman on taht tank thingy all chained up and helpless and whatnot.

Yea but see for most adults, the animated series....doesnt rock. Its a cartoon. Once you get past a certain age unless a cartoon is obscenely adult oriented and funny (Family Guy, South Park) most adults dont tend to be interested.

Considering the cartoon is about Superman and Smallville was a new take about the origins of Clarke Kent and others, they really are completely different. And like I said, since Im actually an adult, I like the live action version alot better.

drob127

11-04-2007, 10:54 PM

^same here, but i did like superman doomsday. the one thing i hate bout the animated stuff is they way they are drawn, thier head and chins are all bulky

SouthsideX300

11-05-2007, 04:37 AM

yeah i hated the drawings. Though i liked the movie.

Alien

11-05-2007, 06:10 AM

I agree. I'm actually watching "Superman II" right now, and I can seriously picture him in that role. Just grease back his hair, get that funny mustache back on him, and have him work on his "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD." It'd be like casting Heath Ledger as The Joker.
Are you f**king kidding me? Bloom is the worst choice ever! Why not just have Warwick Davis play Zod's lieutenant while we're at it.

Bloom is just one of those names that internet fan boys throw around coz he's a big name after LOTR.

Scorpio82

11-05-2007, 12:02 PM

You just made me want to see a movie where Superman beats up midgets.

Yea but see for most adults, the animated series....doesnt rock. Its a cartoon. Once you get past a certain age unless a cartoon is obscenely adult oriented and funny (Family Guy, South Park) most adults dont tend to be interested.

It depends on the viewer's imagination. I try to ignore mediums as much as possible when I'm watching a show, and all I can say is that kids are getting the better deal. Had the JL series been filmed in live-action, it would've blown your mind (and the producers' wallets.) The stories on JL are more creative and risk-taking and the fights are more innovative (and satisfying) than anything you'll see on "Smallville," let alone most superhero movies.

It also depends on how comfortable you are with telling people you still watch cartoons. But I see no shame in watching a mature children's show if everyone else isn't ashamed to watch immature adult programming.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-05-2007, 02:16 PM

Are you f**king kidding me? Bloom is the worst choice ever! Why not just have Warwick Davis play Zod's lieutenant while we're at it.

Bloom is just one of those names that internet fan boys throw around coz he's a big name after LOTR.

Yeah, we all said these things about DiCaprio. Look what happened to him after a few years. We got to give these actors a chance so they can develop. And I think Bloom is meant to be playing bad guys instead of good guys. Assasins, crazy cold killers...those would be perfect for Bloom.

SouthsideX300

11-05-2007, 04:36 PM

Ive always hated Orlando Bloom. "I always thought he was a real streisland..."

King_of_Skid_Row

11-05-2007, 06:11 PM

^A what? Well anyway, I think he has potential to play a really evil, cold scary villain.

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-05-2007, 07:03 PM

Yea but see for most adults, the animated series....doesnt rock. Its a cartoon. Once you get past a certain age unless a cartoon is obscenely adult oriented and funny (Family Guy, South Park) most adults dont tend to be interested.

Considering the cartoon is about Superman and Smallville was a new take about the origins of Clarke Kent and others, they really are completely different. And like I said, since Im actually an adult, I like the live action version alot better.

Isn't there a Marvel related movie you could go comment on and not belittle everyone who likes to read DC comics and watch the cartoon series related to them (and the movies for that matter)?

King_of_Skid_Row

11-05-2007, 07:11 PM

Yea but see for most adults, the animated series....doesnt rock. Its a cartoon. Once you get past a certain age unless a cartoon is obscenely adult oriented and funny (Family Guy, South Park) most adults dont tend to be interested.

Considering the cartoon is about Superman and Smallville was a new take about the origins of Clarke Kent and others, they really are completely different. And like I said, since Im actually an adult, I like the live action version alot better.

You do you know that the Superman movies get more childish than the cartoon, right? I don't know, I always thought Luthor was more colorful and cartoonish in the movies than in the cartoon.

Alien

11-05-2007, 07:24 PM

Yeah, we all said these things about DiCaprio. Look what happened to him after a few years. We got to give these actors a chance so they can develop. And I think Bloom is meant to be playing bad guys instead of good guys. Assasins, crazy cold killers...those would be perfect for Bloom.
DiCaprio? The same DiCaprio who hasn't been in a good movie since Titanic?

Scorpio82

11-05-2007, 07:52 PM

You do you know that the Superman movies get more childish than the cartoon, right? I don't know, I always thought Luthor was more colorful and cartoonish in the movies than in the cartoon.

It's true. The cartoons have done more justice to Lex Luthor than any other show. In the movies, Lex Luthor is nothing more than a comic relief goofball who's always got some kind of hare-brained real estate scheme in mind. And in Smallville, he's a clueless dope who gets knocked unconscious every episode. At least in the cartoons, he gets real character development (as sad as that may sound.)

King_of_Skid_Row

11-05-2007, 08:23 PM

DiCaprio? The same DiCaprio who hasn't been in a good movie since Titanic?

Uh....Blood Diamond, Catch Me If You Can, The Aviator, The Departed??? Where have you been?

Movie Nerd

11-05-2007, 09:19 PM

You do you know that the Superman movies get more childish than the cartoon, right? I don't know, I always thought Luthor was more colorful and cartoonish in the movies than in the cartoon.

1st of all, the original 2 Superman movies are still number 1. Over any cartoon, movie or tv series that has been there before or since them. The bottom line is Lex Luthor sucks as a super villain. Your talking about Superman. The super hero with more power and abilities then just about any other super hero, and his archenemy is......Donald Trump with a bad attitude. He has no super powers. Its stupid. If they want to make this next Superman movie good, Lex wont be in it. Id rather see Darkseid or Zod or even Bizarro because at least they can fight him in a real fight. At least on Smallville I can see an idea on how and why Lex went from being a spoiled rich kid to an arch villain.

Isn't there a Marvel related movie you could go comment on and not belittle everyone who likes to read DC comics and watch the cartoon series related to them (and the movies for that matter)?

I didnt belittle anyone. He gave his opinion on Smallville and the Superman cartoon and I gave mine. Sounds like I hit a little close to home.

What it comes down to is this. I dont have a problem watching cartoons, or telling people I watch cartoons. I watch Superman and Batman the animated series. They are entertaining. But this is 2007. There is nothing that can be done in a cartoon that cant be done in live action if the money is there. The cartoons are good for some entertainment sitting on my couch. But if you want to WOW me (or most adults) your gonna have to go live action. Warner Bros. realized that when those horrid rumors about Justic League movie being all computer animated were floating around.

drob127

11-05-2007, 10:24 PM

DiCaprio? The same DiCaprio who hasn't been in a good movie since Titanic?

are you serious dude? departed, gangs of new york, catch me if you can, the aviator all great movies

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-05-2007, 10:43 PM

1st of all, the original 2 Superman movies are still number 1. Over any cartoon, movie or tv series that has been there before or since them. The bottom line is Lex Luthor sucks as a super villain. Your talking about Superman. The super hero with more power and abilities then just about any other super hero, and his archenemy is......Donald Trump with a bad attitude. He has no super powers. Its stupid. If they want to make this next Superman movie good, Lex wont be in it. Id rather see Darkseid or Zod or even Bizarro because at least they can fight him in a real fight. At least on Smallville I can see an idea on how and why Lex went from being a spoiled rich kid to an arch villain.

I didnt belittle anyone. He gave his opinion on Smallville and the Superman cartoon and I gave mine. Sounds like I hit a little close to home.

What it comes down to is this. I dont have a problem watching cartoons, or telling people I watch cartoons. I watch Superman and Batman the animated series. They are entertaining. But this is 2007. There is nothing that can be done in a cartoon that cant be done in live action if the money is there. The cartoons are good for some entertainment sitting on my couch. But if you want to WOW me (or most adults) your gonna have to go live action. Warner Bros. realized that when those horrid rumors about Justic League movie being all computer animated were floating around.

It's the general attitude of your posts. You act like comic book fanboys (and in other threads Trek fans) are all losers that act like kids and do nothing but whine all day about who's gonna' play Superman in the upcoming JLA suckfest. You always state how it's your opinion, well eventually why don't you try posting something w/ factual basis instead of just telling us how much DC's heroes and villains all suck and how lame they are and expect people who are obviously passionate about the source material to bow down to your great and wise opinion.
You definitely have the right to your opinion, and this is a great place to express it, just don't get all bent when it rubs someone the wrong way.

And not to be the devils advocate but I have to agree w/ the other posters about the Animated medium as the best way to go, because its like a comic book come alive, not like most live action films that feel it necessary to rework everything. Animation is a natural progression from page to celluloid. Plus, it's not hampered by poor acting, bad casting and there is no limits on the creativity due to a special effects budget. 9 times out of ten the cartoons win out, but thats just MY opinion.

Movie Nerd

11-06-2007, 12:48 AM

It's the general attitude of your posts. You act like comic book fanboys (and in other threads Trek fans) are all losers that act like kids and do nothing but whine all day about who's gonna' play Superman in the upcoming JLA suckfest. You always state how it's your opinion, well eventually why don't you try posting something w/ factual basis instead of just telling us how much DC's heroes and villains all suck and how lame they are and expect people who are obviously passionate about the source material to bow down to your great and wise opinion.
You definitely have the right to your opinion, and this is a great place to express it, just don't get all bent when it rubs someone the wrong way.

And not to be the devils advocate but I have to agree w/ the other posters about the Animated medium as the best way to go, because its like a comic book come alive, not like most live action films that feel it necessary to rework everything. Animation is a natural progression from page to celluloid. Plus, it's not hampered by poor acting, bad casting and there is no limits on the creativity due to a special effects budget. 9 times out of ten the cartoons win out, but thats just MY opinion.

That first paragraph may be the gayest thing Ive ever read. You obviously have some repressed memories of being tormented for liking comic books and Star Trek. While I feel Star Trek is the barometer in which all loser magnets are measured, I have never once trashed it. Yet you continue to bring it up.

I also made very valid and factual points on why I feel Lex Luthor blows camel as a super villain, yet you continue to misquote me by saying I feel all DC heroes and villains suck EVEN THOUGH I PRAISED DARKSEID, BIZARRO AND ZOD in the paragraph you quoted. And after I said I watched Batman and Superman animated series. But those cartoons could never be taken seriously as a movie, or a prime time tv show. They are 20 minutes of short entertainment that are good enough for Disney tv.

As far as staying true to the comic material, that takes balls after that garbage that was Superman vs. Doomsday. They ignored alot of what happened in the comics.

See I do use facts to base my opinion. I also use logic and truth. Try it sometime the next time you decide to cry because Id rather watch live action tv and movies like most adults instead of sitting there pining for animation. I think youre just pissed because WB is taking the logical approach to the Justice League movie by using the technology we waited for so long to develop to make it a movie for children AND adults instead of alienating half of their audience by making it a 2 hour episode of JLA the cartoon tv show.

Alien

11-06-2007, 05:11 AM

Uh....Blood Diamond, Catch Me If You Can, The Aviator, The Departed??? Where have you been?

are you serious dude? departed, gangs of new york, catch me if you can, the aviator all great movies
The Departed, I'll give you that one. But the rest were over hype crap.

Anyway, the point is he might've been suggested by crazy people but he's never been in a move like this and Bloom shouldn't be either.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-06-2007, 12:26 PM

^......................................Okay. Personally those films were awesome. Including Blood Diamond.

Scorpio82

11-06-2007, 01:29 PM

Not too mention that like 'em or not, they're critically-acclaimed and DiCaprio's had several performance nominations and wins for his roles in those things - so he does count as an A-list actor at this point.

drob127

11-06-2007, 09:43 PM

i agree. alien, but he and his movies win oscars(dicaprio)

King_of_Skid_Row

11-07-2007, 12:24 AM

Yep. And I hear he's going to do another movie with Scorcese. So he has Scorcese's respect.

Alien

11-07-2007, 07:56 AM

Yep. And I hear he's going to do another movie with Scorcese. So he has Scorcese's respect.
Don't get me started on Scorcese, most of the time he makes some sucky-ass movies that evey one loves coz they seem to think he is god or something and so hump his leg like a Pairs Hilton dog, but if you say one bad thing against him you will be flamed to hell and back... I'm not a fan.

Movie Nerd

11-07-2007, 11:02 AM

King_of_Skid_Row

11-07-2007, 04:11 PM

I can't believe this. But i'm going to have to agree with Movie Nerd.

Alien

11-07-2007, 04:59 PM

Sorry Alien but your off base there. Sure Scorcese has had his share of suck ass movies, every director has, but the guy has also made alot of classics.

- Mean Streets
- Taxi Driver
- Raging Bull
- Goodfellas
- Casino
- Cape Fear
- Gangs of New York
- The Departed

How many other directors have a resume like that? Come on.
And that is my point... Now I haven't seen them all but The Departed is the only good one on that list but like everyone else you are humpping his leg saying he's the greatest. All I can really put it down to is different strokes for different folks, but I really don't like the guys movies.

Movie Nerd

11-08-2007, 12:32 AM

Now I haven't seen them all but The Departed is the only good one on that list

That may be the most ridiculous statement Ive ever read on here.

Alien

11-08-2007, 05:36 AM

I'm not happy that the Dicaprio/Scorcese conversation has hi-jacked this thread.That may be the most ridiculous statement Ive ever read on here.
So I take it you believe we should be like the Borg and all think alike, we should all like the same movies and TV shows?

Scorpio82

11-08-2007, 08:34 AM

That would certainly save us time on internet debates. :P

Movie Nerd

11-08-2007, 10:22 AM

I'm not happy that the Dicaprio/Scorcese conversation has hi-jacked this thread.
So I take it you believe we should be like the Borg and all think alike, we should all like the same movies and TV shows?

I agree this discussion is best suited for another thread.

Im not saying we should all like the same movies, but how you can say that Goodfellas, Casino, Raging Bull or even Cape Fear were not good movies is beyond me. Im scared to think what you consider a "great movie".

Handsome Rob

11-08-2007, 10:26 AM

While I feel Star Trek is the barometer in which all loser magnets are measured, I have never once trashed it.

Isn't this a contradiction in terms?

I agree this discussion is best suited for another thread.

Im not saying we should all like the same movies, but how you can say that Goodfellas, Casino, Raging Bull or even Cape Fear were not good movies is beyond me. Im scared to think what you consider a "great movie".

Now don't flame me for saying this, but they were all beautiful specimens of cinematic genius, but that (IMHO) does not always mean that they were entertaining. A movie can be one or the other but NOT ALWAYS both, it's a matter of taste.

Scorpio82

11-08-2007, 03:22 PM

SouthsideX300

11-08-2007, 05:03 PM

Goodfellas is Classic

IanTheCool

11-08-2007, 05:52 PM

um, goodfellas, is great and all guys, but, um...... how about that superman?

Alien

11-08-2007, 06:05 PM

I'd have to agree with that. Get a group of 20 friends into one room and have them vote as to whether they want to watch "Goodfellas" or "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." You'll end up having a few grumpy pouters in the room, but 9 times out of 10, the killer rabbit wins.

(Yep, I think this calls for a thread-split.)
Monty Python anytime, hands down!

um, goodfellas, is great and all guys, but, um...... how about that superman?
I did say I didn't like that we had high-jacked this thread.

Movie Nerd

11-08-2007, 06:41 PM

Isn't this a contradiction in terms?

I shouldve said "before this post, I have not once trashed it."

Now don't flame me for saying this, but they were all beautiful specimens of cinematic genius, but that (IMHO) does not always mean that they were entertaining. A movie can be one or the other but NOT ALWAYS both, it's a matter of taste.

I agree no movie is entertaining to everyone. Believe me, if it were my group of friends, that vote would be 10 - 0 Goodfellas over Monty Python. But that doesnt mean The Holy Grail wasnt awesome as well. Just because that person doesnt find a movie entertaining doesnt make it a bad movie.

And if the people behind Man of Steel would give us something to talk about this thread wouldnt be so off topic.

drob127

11-08-2007, 07:02 PM

this thread is gonna be like this for awhile there just isnt going to be any news on this movie because of the justice league movie. this movie might not come out until 2009 if were lucky

Scorpio82

11-08-2007, 07:33 PM

But that doesnt mean The Holy Grail wasnt awesome as well. Just because that person doesnt find a movie entertaining doesnt make it a bad movie.

I was just using that as a better example. I've had cases where the group picked movies like "Eurotrip" and "Bring It On" over movies like "Goodfellas." Adults too, mind you. Once again, it depends on the group of people.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-08-2007, 07:48 PM

Hey, with the writers on strike, does this mean that Singer has to write the script?

drob127

11-08-2007, 08:22 PM

Hey, with the writers on strike, does this mean that Singer has to write the script?

i hope not

King_of_Skid_Row

11-08-2007, 08:50 PM

If he does, Zod is a sure bet.

drob127

11-08-2007, 09:56 PM

singer to me is...eh

Scorpio82

11-08-2007, 10:13 PM

According to his IMDB profile, Singer's never actually written a film. He just comes up with stories and has someone else write them.

I guess this is where we separate the men from the boys.

Movie Nerd

11-09-2007, 12:42 PM

I was just using that as a better example. I've had cases where the group picked movies like "Eurotrip" and "Bring It On" over movies like "Goodfellas." Adults too, mind you. Once again, it depends on the group of people.

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DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-09-2007, 05:48 PM

The SWG strike shouldn't mean Singers gotta write the script, but Warner's will be hiring a new writing team, because Dougherty and Harris opted out of Superman: Man of Steel. Personally, I'd like to see them bring in some comic writers (sadly Mark Millar won't be allowed to) to inject some sense of the actual character into the big screen version. If you have a show on television that some feel is unique, or at the very least a new twist on the Superman lore (I'm tryin' Movie Nerd, I'm REALLY tryin') then why not follow the mythos more by the book for the movies? That to me is what made Superman: The Movie so good. It was so close to the heroic Superman from the comics. I'm not saying that other incarnations make Superman out to be the bad guy necessarily, but Reeves version compared to the more brooding, angst filled SR may fit todays standards more, but it's still not a better Superman.
I'm all for moving w/ the times (despite how many of my posts may sound) but some ideas, even ones invented in the 1930's can still be relevant, and refreshing, and entertaining if done well, and w/ respect to a good character. So much material to work w/, hopefully a new writing team can get it right, if not Superman:MOS is doomed to fail, and I really hope thats not the case.
I want a great Superman film for the times especially w/ the technology to make films these days. Maybe comic writers aren't part of this whole SWG strike and they'll look to them first, not sure if they are or if Warners would be interested. That's the route that WB chose for the proposed Green Lantern film, so maybe they'll use that strategy here. Either way,I just hope they do this thing right.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-09-2007, 06:37 PM

I think people of today would prefer a Clark Kent and Superman that acted like the one on that one Superman show. I think it was....George Reeves?

drob127

11-09-2007, 08:11 PM

i just hope they dont destroy this character

King_of_Skid_Row

11-09-2007, 09:46 PM

Well, I'm not really sure about Superman anymore. They've tried but on every attempt they come up with a very lame idea to ruin it. SR was pretty good, but would've been so much better without the kid. The kid issue kind of brought the film down several notches.

By the way, why did Singer and his crew bring in the kid?

Scorpio82

11-09-2007, 11:13 PM

It's all explained in this video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytqV6GEHW24)

King_of_Skid_Row

11-09-2007, 11:17 PM

LMAO!!

Okay, so that's why. LOL

SouthsideX300

11-10-2007, 03:53 AM

Yeah.. that was a horrible idea. Superman is a dead beat father?? seriously who thinks this ***** is good??

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-10-2007, 12:58 PM

Thats why I think they almost have to pull a HULK and reboot this franchise yet again. Superman: Man of Steel sounds like a good title to actually focus on Superman, the heroic, powerful hero and get rid of some of this angst and romantic drivel, and most of all get rid of the kid angle. I thought, first time seeing SR the ending, with the kid at the hospital and Superman saying that line that his father said to him was very touching and all, but it just seems all wrong. Superman doesn't need a kid or a sidekick, he's the most powerful hero ever he doesn't need the help or the burden of protecting a child. Plus the whole way they went about it was wrong. Not just the deadbeat dad angle, it's also the fact that Singer wanted the average film goer, not Superman fans per say to go see SR and connect the dots from the "If this Fortress is a rockin' don't come a knockin' " scene in Superman 2 to the fact that Lois, who despite having her memory wiped by Clark's Super Kiss is hiding the fact that her child is actually Clark's from that one night stand at the Fortress. Instead of all this drama why not show the footage from Clark's journey to find Krypton? They had the silver suit and everything and it was used for like a half a scene. They don't explain why if this was a continuation of Superman 2, like Lois' pregnancy suggests, why there is a new suit, why does Lois remember everything, WHAT HAPPENED TO SUPERMAN 3???? So much for even the most ardent of Superman movie buffs to understand, so how is the average movie goer, especially kids (who always get forgotten when it comes to making these movies) who might not have seen a film from 27 years ago and made the connections that are vital to actually understanding where the **** the storyline for the film is going, let alone coming from.
It could be so easy to make a great Superman film by following a simple formula:

1.Stay true to the source material, not word for word, but true.

2.Plenty of action and light on the backstory EVERYONE knows Superman's origin.

3.No romantic drama, or at the very least it should be a minor part of the storyline.

4.Give us a Superman we can cheer for, not some angst ridden emo, with nice abs.Though I like Routh, a more mature actor with a bigger build might be in order. Even if the acting is a bit less, it won't matter (see rule 2 to find out why).

5.Don't paint yourself in a corner w/ stupid plot devices like say....SUPERMAN HAVING A CHILD. Adopt the K.I.S.S rule and you'll be fine ;)

Scorpio82

11-10-2007, 02:08 PM

No disagreements there. On top of those ones, maybe it'd be nice to go back to the roots of "Superman II" and give him an arch-nemesis who can actually kick his butt. And if they can go an entire movie without saying the word "kryptonite," I'll be happy.

Between this, "Hulk, and "Spider-man 3," I think Hollywood's been give plenty to think about when it comes to writing their superhero movies. Audiences aren't interested in seeing their favorite heroes being emotionally crippled. They're allowed to have their personal problems, yes, just as long as we don't have to watch them cry into their pillows for 40 minutes. If a hero's response to "I'm in love with someone else" is anything other than a violent rampage, we don't want to see it.

EDIT: Actually, skip the "I'm in love with someone else" part. If the world's about to explode, we don't need that insignificant side-plot.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-11-2007, 05:37 PM

Well, Hulk is getting rebooted and Spiderman is going the stand alone movie route.

Superman needs someone who will give him some justice on the screen. Problem is, you get someone who is afraid to do something cool( like bring in Dark Seid and have Clark act less nerdy) because they fear it will ruin Supe's image. Instead they settle on something stupid like the kid plot and Lex real estate scheme.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a Superman movie that is truly epic. Something on the scale of Lord of the Rings or a Bruckheimer action movie.

drob127

11-11-2007, 08:01 PM

this franchise if you can call it that, needs a reboot with a better director than singer and a great superman story one where we can all chear and say "damn now that is how you do a superman movie"

Scorpio82

11-11-2007, 10:17 PM

The first person who can do something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnq2D4PtvI) in a Superman movie will be my hero.

There's also this really nice one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BvSqqmidM) where he fights Captain Marvel and kills possibly thousands of innocent bystanders.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-11-2007, 10:44 PM

I don't think we've ever seen Superman throw a punch on the big screen. We've seen him grab and throw. Problem is, the films haven't established Superman as much as a fighter. I remember Superman 2 when he didn't have his powers. He got his a** kicked.

But I do hear he's going to briefly be a supervillain in Justice League. The producers said his battle with Wonder Woman and Batman is the BEST part in the movie.

Scorpio82

11-11-2007, 11:49 PM

It makes sense that he's not much of a fighter. On Earth, he's like a kid stepping on ants. A trained Kryptonian soldier would level him.

drob127

11-12-2007, 10:27 PM

we need an action packed superman forget the drama make the action, superman and the villian the main parts

SouthsideX300

11-12-2007, 11:21 PM

we need an action packed superman forget the drama make the action, superman and the villian the main parts

I agree. That being said, i hope they ditch Bryan Singer.

drob127

11-13-2007, 09:13 PM

me too. cant stand him

abrooks77

11-21-2007, 07:32 AM

drob127

11-21-2007, 08:23 PM

yep probably

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-25-2007, 01:35 AM

Noone has seemed to have touched on the whole "Rebirth of Krypton" story which will probably be told here. I mean it was kind of obvious from beginning to end that Superman was hoping to find remains of his homeworld but only found a graveyard, at the beginning. Now that Lex has thrown the crystals into the sea and basically created Krypton all over again the Kryptonians might live again. Albeit a cross breed but nevertheless. I think this will make for the most interesting storyling going forward and obviously tells me that ZOD will most definitely be the next villian to be visited...again.

Where has it been said that they will use that storyline for this film, never heard that before?As far as Superman looking for his homeworld, he's always wanted to know about Krypton, what it was like to live there. In SR he found it destroyed. The crystals were from the fortress, and Superman has seen the effects they had on the Earth, he wouldn't try to recreate Krypton. The ones that were dropped at the end, they fell into the chunk of Kryptonian land that Superman threw into space. If they're in the sea, they would have spawned more land.
And btw..... If ZOD is in this next film I'm done hoping for a good Superman movie in my lifetime, and I'm only 32.

SouthsideX300

11-25-2007, 11:45 PM

Anyone remember superman giving up his powers, then getting his ass kicked in that diner?

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-26-2007, 12:05 AM

And then getting them back and going back and kicking that guys ass.

I remember that that guy chewed like a ****ing cow.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-26-2007, 01:49 AM

That kind of confirms that Superman isn't much of a fighter. He has no powers and gets his a** kicked by some no name. He needs to go to Chuck Norris or Jet Li.

abrooks77

11-26-2007, 10:31 AM

Where has it been said that they will use that storyline for this film, never heard that before?As far as Superman looking for his homeworld, he's always wanted to know about Krypton, what it was like to live there. In SR he found it destroyed. The crystals were from the fortress, and Superman has seen the effects they had on the Earth, he wouldn't try to recreate Krypton. The ones that were dropped at the end, they fell into the chunk of Kryptonian land that Superman threw into space. If they're in the sea, they would have spawned more land.
And btw..... If ZOD is in this next film I'm done hoping for a good Superman movie in my lifetime, and I'm only 32.

Nothing has really been said about the storyline for this movie buddy. Actually they don't even have a script yet so ummm ever heard of speculation? Yeah that's pretty much what is going on here. I'm SPECULATING that this will be a storyline. As far as Superman re-creating it..I never said that. Here is what happened 1. Lex Luthor threw them into the sea 2. They began to grow into Krypton 2 3. Superman threw it into space while it was growing 4. It will have to abide by the laws of physics once it grows to full mass because Lex only meant to drop 1 in the sea but Kitty threw them all in, therefore it could be as large or a larger chunk of real estate than the earth and will settle in orbit around the sun. Maybe I'm insane to think this will be a central plot piece going forward but if so then lock me up because I think it sounds awesome.

Movie Nerd

11-26-2007, 04:49 PM

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-26-2007, 05:45 PM

Nothing has really been said about the storyline for this movie buddy. Actually they don't even have a script yet so ummm ever heard of speculation? Yeah that's pretty much what is going on here. I'm SPECULATING that this will be a storyline. As far as Superman re-creating it..I never said that. Here is what happened 1. Lex Luthor threw them into the sea 2. They began to grow into Krypton 2 3. Superman threw it into space while it was growing 4. It will have to abide by the laws of physics once it grows to full mass because Lex only meant to drop 1 in the sea but Kitty threw them all in, therefore it could be as large or a larger chunk of real estate than the earth and will settle in orbit around the sun. Maybe I'm insane to think this will be a central plot piece going forward but if so then lock me up because I think it sounds awesome.

WOW, not sure why your being so hostile towards me there killer, I can't seem to catch a break these days.

1.I know there is no script for this movie yet, what I was trying to say, and because you chose to take my comment as a slap in the face instead of an innocent question about a theory, is that I'd honestly never heard that idea before,however you decided to just assume I thought your idea was crap.

2.I don't think your idea is crap, in fact if that chunk of rock in space somehow creates Doomsday, or maybe get's Brainiacs attention, therefore bringing him in as the baddie in TMOS, then I think your theory already sounds alot better than most of what was Superman Returns.

3. I've seen SR many times, no need to refresh my memory. My point was, and Movie Nerd alluded to this as well, is that you don't really know where the Crystals that Kitty dropped ended up, I was however SPECULATING that they landed on the ground of what Singer reffered to while filming as "New Krypton" or the land mass that Lex created where he attempted to kill Superman. So my belief was that the crystals are now a part of that mass and now somewhere in space. They never even teased anything at the films close about those crystals playing a part in the sequels storyline. Does that mean they won't? No....but they paid more attention to wrapping up the romantic drama than what happened to the crystals, so maybe we'll never know.

4. Your not insane, and far be it from me to judge ones sanity on the basis of how passionate they are about a specific topic, or a character, or idea that they enjoy or hope to come to fruition. By all means \S/peculate away. ;)

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-26-2007, 06:01 PM

I was just about to bash this theory but I think I understand what your saying now. Your trying to say that the chunk of rock he threw into space was all of the crystals forming into a planet and not just the one crystal Lex through in.

I understand but its way to big a stretch to have for a plotline. Besides, we never saw the rest of those crystals fall into the water not to mention the rock never seemed to grow after that point.

When ya' think about it, it's not really any bigger of a stretch than the Superman 2 tie in plot that they expected the average non Superman movie fan to get. They basically expected you to forget Superman 3, remember that they got busy at the Fortress, and now, even though Lois knows the child is Clarks, after he supposedly erased her memory at the end of Superman 2, now theres this kid that is gonna have super powers...like Clark's not gonna' notice. Is his theory anymore complicated or a stretch than that mind spinning crap? :nono: :)

drob127

11-26-2007, 10:26 PM

a memory erasing kiss, damn i wish i had that power

SouthsideX300

11-27-2007, 03:07 AM

Id take his super strength and bullets being able to bounce off of me.

abrooks77

11-27-2007, 06:52 AM

abrooks77

11-27-2007, 07:13 AM

WOW, not sure why your being so hostile towards me there killer, I can't seem to catch a break these days.

1.I know there is no script for this movie yet, what I was trying to say, and because you chose to take my comment as a slap in the face instead of an innocent question about a theory, is that I'd honestly never heard that idea before,however you decided to just assume I thought your idea was crap.

2.I don't think your idea is crap, in fact if that chunk of rock in space somehow creates Doomsday, or maybe get's Brainiacs attention, therefore bringing him in as the baddie in TMOS, then I think your theory already sounds alot better than most of what was Superman Returns.

3. I've seen SR many times, no need to refresh my memory. My point was, and Movie Nerd alluded to this as well, is that you don't really know where the Crystals that Kitty dropped ended up, I was however SPECULATING that they landed on the ground of what Singer reffered to while filming as "New Krypton" or the land mass that Lex created where he attempted to kill Superman. So my belief was that the crystals are now a part of that mass and now somewhere in space. They never even teased anything at the films close about those crystals playing a part in the sequels storyline. Does that mean they won't? No....but they paid more attention to wrapping up the romantic drama than what happened to the crystals, so maybe we'll never know.

4. Your not insane, and far be it from me to judge ones sanity on the basis of how passionate they are about a specific topic, or a character, or idea that they enjoy or hope to come to fruition. By all means \S/peculate away. ;)

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Well said! I apologize for having hostility on my breath there. I guess I'm just used to being defensive from other BB's. Anyway I like where you have taken this to say the least. Brainiac finding New Krypton. Doomsday showing up through this storyline...the possibilities are endless.

One of the reasons I feel that the crystals are "gone" is that Superman has gleened all the information from them he could..this is up for discussion but it's something I'd like to think is true. No facts to really base that on btw. Anyhow, let's say the crystals are now just relics, what better way to send some of them off than to re-create his homeworld. Also, we have no idea how much land mass one would create (according to Lex's map, something a bit bigger than North America ABOVE sealevel) so maybe 1 is sufficient to create K2. Then he could recover the rest in TMOS and have a new Fortress of Solitude <---greatest name of a hideout ever btw, on K2. Anyway, I know this is far fetched but it's the 1st thing that popped into my head when I saw him hurl that piece of real estate into space.

drob127

11-27-2007, 10:39 PM

yea i remember reading something bout singer or someone talking bout man of steel and they said...now dont quote me, but it was something along these lines..."well we have a new krypton now so there will be some kryptonians" like i said dont quote me on it, but something like that was said...im tryin to look back on superherohype and all ,but i know i read that somewhere

SouthsideX300

11-28-2007, 05:06 PM

What year did superman returns come out?

Yoda

11-28-2007, 05:38 PM

A man of steel Brandon Routh certainly is not.

SouthsideX300

11-28-2007, 05:51 PM

A man of steel Brandon Routh certainly is not.

You ran to Exile in fear of darth Sidious!!!!!!!!!!

drob127

11-28-2007, 10:23 PM

he def has to bulk up a lil more in this one

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

11-29-2007, 12:17 AM

What year did superman returns come out?

Released in 2005.

King_of_Skid_Row

11-29-2007, 03:56 PM

I kind of want to see him take on an Earth super villain like Metallo or Parasite. I mean, it seems like whenever Supe isn't taking on Lex he's taking on someone from Krypton or another planet. For one movie, I kind of like to see him take on an Earth born super villain like Metallo.

SouthsideX300

11-29-2007, 09:50 PM

I thought Kevin Spacey played a good Luthor. Im just sick of the character already. Does he have to be the villian in every movie??

theeroyalblue

11-29-2007, 09:53 PM

we all know lex luthor is going to be in anything that has superman in it thats just going to happen and you gotta accept it.
What im waiting for is for DC to come out with some cartoons like marvel did with the Ultimate Avengers. I'd love to see a Superman trilogy dealing with the full death, reign and return of superman or the knightsfall, quest and end for batman.
THATS WHAT I WANNA SEE.

drob127

11-29-2007, 10:27 PM

get singer away from this movie

King_of_Skid_Row

11-29-2007, 10:30 PM

Well the original writing team was going to use Dark Seid according to sources. But the WB got rid of them. Now I'm hearing that Zod might be your villain and Orlando Bloom might get the part. Personally, he'd be a better Metallo because Bloom can do good playing the emotionless, heartless killer.

SouthsideX300

11-30-2007, 04:21 PM

oh man... from Dark Seid to an Orlando Blood villian. Seriously who makes these decisions??

drob127

11-30-2007, 09:52 PM

bloom as a villian...please no!!!

your tellin me they cant find anyone else?

King_of_Skid_Row

11-30-2007, 10:57 PM

Well I guess they want someone young to take on Routh's Superman. Although it will be kind of odd that Zod is younger than Superman.

drob127

12-03-2007, 10:50 PM

they should stay away from bloom

King_of_Skid_Row

12-03-2007, 10:58 PM

It could be a done deal though when the Writer's Strike ends. I mean, Singer and this other guy from the Superman team was talking to Bloom a few months ago. I remember that article. I wonder what happened to it. However the him playing Zod rumor is kind of new.

drob127

12-04-2007, 10:13 PM

i think it would be a terrible casting call. not to be someone who likes type casting, but you have to go with someone who acts evil in movies, but at the same time not someone who is totally obvious...either way stay as far away from bloom as you can

jokes.on.you

12-18-2007, 10:24 PM

Terrance Stamp could so still play Zod, are you kidding me? Wtf orlando Bloom. This isn't a remake of Superman, like The new Batman movies, this fits into the series. Terrance Stamp IS Zod. They should keep him. I'm sure he;d want to do it. I mean he does the voice of Jor-El on Smallville and they used his face for the Zod Character in that show to.

drob127

12-18-2007, 10:34 PM

i just dont want orlando fruit of the bloom

Scorpio82

12-19-2007, 10:31 AM

And the best part is that it's slated for 2009, meaning there's still a year's worth of whining left to do in this thread.

drob127

12-19-2007, 09:08 PM

<----whining as we speak

Ravn

01-04-2008, 03:45 AM

I'll be depressed if Singer doesn't return. If Routh doesn't return.. I won't go see any new Superman film. Ever.

King_of_Skid_Row

01-04-2008, 04:49 AM

Well, it's looking like Superman's seperate series is cancelled. It seems he will continue on in Justice League even though the movie focuses more on Batman than Superman.

It's kind of a sad end for such a great superhero.

sshuttari

01-04-2008, 06:02 AM

Man it tooks like someone took a crap on the Superman movie. Singer isn't back and now were hearing that Brouth isn't coming back either.

Honestly it seems like there's really no hope for this movie too be any good now.

Alien

01-04-2008, 10:43 AM

Routh was a good Superman/Clark Kent, Singer was a good director but the story was the flaw. If they get good writers they can fix it for the sequal.

sshuttari

01-04-2008, 10:49 AM

I liked returns and I think they could have made a really great sequel it's too bad it's not going to happen.

King_of_Skid_Row

01-04-2008, 12:25 PM

Superman is dead. Maybe they should've did something new instead of using the Donnerverse.

Handsome Rob

01-04-2008, 12:30 PM

I don't understand Hollywood. Why not just have Routh star in the Justice League movie as Superman? Which in turn would make it a pseudo Superman Returns sequel and keep continuity to the character.

trekscribbler

01-04-2008, 01:46 PM

Honestly, Singer & Routh's departure is the best thing that could've happened in all of Supermandom. RETURNS was a huge fart (who in the right mind spends $200+ million to make $200 million?), and I, for one, am glad that they're both gone.

Hypestyle

01-04-2008, 01:47 PM

I agree.. Singer isn't doing anything with "Returns 2" at the moment.. Routh could probably use the work.. why NOT do Superman in a group movie? duh... already you have tom welling in the smallville show.. adding another guy means THREE active "supermen" in different projects, not great for visual continuity..

Handsome Rob

01-04-2008, 01:50 PM

^^^Yeah, thats where I was going with it. I mean why have all of these visual representations of Superman. It convolutes (my word of the day apparently) the character with too many variations.

drob127

01-04-2008, 08:23 PM

i dont care for singers movies, routh was okay..if that and please give us a superman movie without lex luthor or atleast put another villian in there im gettin sick of just seeing him vs luthor and i know im not the only one

King_of_Skid_Row

01-05-2008, 03:09 PM

What I don't understand about Superman fan is that, why are they happy that Superman's series gets cancelled for a series where he's going to have as much screen time and development as Cyclops in the X-Men movies? That I don't understand. Since Superman is the one kind of suffering on screen and not Batman, it would make more sense if the Justice League was told through Supe's point of view. Instead it sounds like Supe is a side character and only used to give Batman a fight scene.

sshuttari

01-05-2008, 03:28 PM

Brandon Routh is still go in the sequel. I'm glad he's sticking around he made a good Supes/Clark.

Now who shall direct? ohhh the possibilites...

King_of_Skid_Row

01-05-2008, 03:30 PM

Peter Jackson. I want Peter Jackson to direct it. But knowing Warner, they'll get Brett Ratner.

saveus1011

01-05-2008, 03:37 PM

If I had more experience (and a short film worth showing), I'd try my damnest to get my mits on Superman.

As for big names, the only one I can think of is Peter Berg.

clrb15

01-05-2008, 06:29 PM

Brandon Routh is still go in the sequel. I'm glad he's sticking around he made a good Supes/Clark.

Now who shall direct? ohhh the possibilites...

I agree he is very good as Kent. I just dont like how Singer doesn't stick to making these superhero movies work. I mean he did great directing both X-Men films and he ONLY ONLY ONLY had ONE more to do but backed out to make "Returns" and Brett Ratner came on board and (while it was still satisfactory) it could've been MUCH MUCH better with Singer still directing and finishing it off right.

Now he brought back Superman (which was great) but maybe? possibly? not coming back? Question, why even bring it back in the first place if your not going to stick to it? I mean the original trilogy was great in the first place, right?

On a side note, I applaud Christopher Nolan for doing things RIGHT. While I wasn't a fan of Batman Begins, I am SOOOOOO PUMPED for The Dark Knight and have FULL respect for him not only for sticking with the franchise but (from what I saw in the IMAX footage) and making it the best.

Neverthless, I'm glad Routh is still on board whatever the outcome of the Superman franchise may be as of now.

SouthsideX300

01-05-2008, 11:53 PM

I thought Routh was booted in favor of the new actor from Justice League?

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-06-2008, 12:18 AM

All of this talk of Singer and Routh not returning for the sequel is based purely on speculation and rumors, some of which, if you believe even more unconfirmed nonsense has already been debunked by AICN. basically, until an actual announcement is made by Warners, and don't expect anything before the WGA strike is over, why should we believe they won't return? In the case of Singer, sure he's got projects planned to work on, but seeing how they won't make any progress until the strike is over, that doesn't sound out of the ordinary. It's been known for awhile now that the JLA film will be filmed and released before a Superman sequel, So more than likely a new film wouldn't be out until 2010, how is that not enough time for him to be available? Routh has done nothing since Superman Returns, so his schedule is pretty much open. I agree w/ others that Routh should be in the JLA film, for the sake of continuity and to give him more exposure, AND to possibly send the character in a different direction than the events of SR (like being a dad) so that a sequel could be all about the action. Maybe, if they were smart they could bring Darkseid in at the end of the JLA film as a lead in to the next Superman film, but I KNOW they wouldn't think of something like that in a million years. They only own the characters and all the source material, why use it properly? Well, I'm getting off on a rant here so I'll just finish by saying, until you hear it from the actual company producing the film try not to take everyones opinion and all these rumors as proof that either Singer or Routh aren't a part of the next film.

drob127

01-06-2008, 07:26 PM

idunno if this is a bad choic of director(s) but why not the wachowski brothers they made neo fly great, they based neo on jesus and superman has that feel as well. i think they could pull it off. plus they know how to make a movie look great

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-06-2008, 09:43 PM

^^^NO!! Absolutely not them. I don't need to see Superman fly in slow motion, stopping and floating backwards like he's doing the eagle kick from The Karate Kid. If Singer doesn't return, I'd like them to go all out w/ Millar and make a truly great Superman. And enough of the Jesus allegories already, just let him be a freakin' Superhero.

Tardumb

01-06-2008, 10:39 PM

And enough of the Jesus allegories already, just let him be a freakin' Superhero.

Hasn't he kind of always had the Jesus allegories going on??

King_of_Skid_Row

01-07-2008, 12:58 AM

Back in the old days, he was just a superhero. It was in the later years where all this religious stuff started. He was always a sci fi superhero. Not a biblical one.

Ravn

01-07-2008, 07:25 PM

Honestly, Singer & Routh's departure is the best thing that could've happened in all of Supermandom. RETURNS was a huge fart

:lol: haaaaaaaahahahahahaha guess that's what they call "piss poor taste". Thanks for a great laugh :D

King_of_Skid_Row

01-07-2008, 11:26 PM

Superman's main flaw right now is his son. His son is destroying his sequel chances.

abrooks77

01-08-2008, 07:11 AM

Jesus allegories? Did you ever see the old Superman movies? Read the comic books? All throughout Superman, new and old, are messianic overtones. It's just part of the story and a key part at that. As far as Routh in the next film.....It's been debunked and if any of you think that ditching Routh for the doosh that is going to be in JLA is a good idea....well I'm sorry about the mental deck you were dealt and I'd hate to have taste such as yours. JLA will suck and it's a good idea in theory but here is where they will mess up. Marvel is poised to make an Avengers film with the likes of Ed Norton, Robert Downey, etc...this would be a HUGE film. They are rushing JLA and it won't be a big film..continuity is everything in something like this. Regardless, I'm not paying attention to it, The Man of Steel helmed by Singer and Routh would be wonderful. Superman Returns was an amazing film imo and I really hope I get to see another stab at the franchise by these two. Bring on Bizarro!

drob127

01-08-2008, 10:59 PM

superman has always been looked upon as a "jesus" character

King_of_Skid_Row

01-08-2008, 11:41 PM

^Well, I think it should stop. Superman should be sci fi. Not biblical. He's freakin extraterrestrial for crying out loud.

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-09-2008, 02:37 AM

I'm not the first person to make the connection, or have that opinion ABrooks. Although Messianic overtones would be more logical due to the fact that Superman's creators Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel were in fact themselves Jewish. Agree wholeheartedly w/ the rest of your post though.

drob127

01-09-2008, 11:13 PM

i agree i think he should be sci fi but he will always be seen that way.

Love The Spawn

01-12-2008, 05:38 PM

It really upsets me that this writer strike is having an affect on the Superman film. How come it just can't pick itself up like the Batman movies and get going!?

SouthsideX300

01-12-2008, 05:52 PM

They should forget returns ever happend and start from scratch. Or go with the death of superman vs doomsday on the big screen.

drob127

01-12-2008, 10:45 PM

this movie wont get made until 2010...thats alot of time either to make it great or to make it worse than returns which idunno if you can do that

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-13-2008, 03:41 PM

It really upsets me that this writer strike is having an affect on the Superman film. How come it just can't pick itself up like the Batman movies and get going!?

The script for TDK was already written and the film was already in production before the WGA strike, such was not the case with Man of Steel. Due to the writers from Superman Returns jumping ship new writers are needed and that won't happen till the WGA mess is over.I hate the fact that everytime a Superman movie is in the works something delays the project for a decade or so. If this film isn't to be made until 2010, 5 years will have passed between SR and the new movie, they might as well just go in a new direction ala' THE HULK, keep Routh but say goodbye to Singer, bring in Millar and make a really EPIC Superman film.

WuTical

01-13-2008, 06:14 PM

They just need to give up on making Superman movies. They tried 5 times and all have been pretty weak.

Just keep making Smallville episodes.

SouthsideX300

01-13-2008, 07:07 PM

What ever happend to that one guy that hated Superman returns in every thread? Sarah Kahn or something..

saveus1011

01-13-2008, 07:51 PM

Just do what Singer did with the franchise, only you retcon his movie too.

drob127

01-13-2008, 10:13 PM

yea where has sora gone? LOL

abrooks77

01-15-2008, 02:42 PM

You know I really really liked Brandon Routh as Superman and all this talk about the franchise being ditched or revamped...AGAIN...sucks. I'll admit that Superman Returns might not be the action packed piece that everyone was dying to see but even if it's SUPPOSED to be the 3rd film..in Singers eyes...you almost have to do some revisiting of old characters since they are brand new, actor wise, and then have the 2nd movie to go forward. I really hope they let him have 1 more chance with this because I can see this movie being as good as we all know the Dark Knight will be.

I think of so many cool scenes and how they could incorporate multiple villains. I mean I was thinking how badass it would be to bring Bizarro in and have him working with Metallo or Brainiac in some way only to eventually help Superman out in the end...kind of like the Vader turns on the Emperor thing but not really...doubt that makes any sense but to some it may.

I mean think about it....Brainiac has gotten the best of Superman with Bizarros help...Superman is locked up somewhere being guarded by Kryptonite type walls...pans to a scene of Bizarro sitting on the surface of Mercury or something, like the "Thinking Man" pose contemplating what he has done. I mean the CGI could be so great here....you can see the blistering solar winds and the huge yellow sun in front of him...the visuals of this are endless!

King_of_Skid_Row

01-15-2008, 02:55 PM

Superman appears to be on hold. JL is even having problems. Once the strike is over, I think everything will get back on track.

SouthsideX300

01-15-2008, 10:48 PM

Superman appears to be on hold. JL is even having problems. Once the strike is over, I think everything will get back on track.

Heard the same thing. I still wanna see Justice League get made. Even though i think it'll be a total failure. Im hoping im wrong.

drob127

01-15-2008, 11:16 PM

ever since hearing rumors of nicholas cage and tim burton being attached to superman back in the day i would write stories of superman the way i think it should be not changing anything just doing stories about it and some people actually thought they were good

King_of_Skid_Row

01-15-2008, 11:19 PM

I just think Superman needs a little more sci fi and adventure thrown in. It could be real epic and amazing. I mean, Superman can do lots of things besides fighting earthquakes and stopping airplane accidents.

drob127

01-15-2008, 11:22 PM

agreed i would have luthor in the background as like a puppet master. but the thing i always wanted to see was like superman tried to save someone but accidently killed them and that persons husband or something goes to luthor for help and this guy actually fights superman-obviously he isnt the main villian but i always wanted to see like someone who is an everyday man put on some kryptonite gloves and fight superman. cheesy i know

prizm

01-17-2008, 09:48 AM

yea where has sora gone? LOL

who cares... glad he is gone

King_of_Skid_Row

01-17-2008, 03:09 PM

Who's this Sora you guys speak of?

rosncranz

01-17-2008, 03:11 PM

Stop! If you guys say his name three times he will come back!

King_of_Skid_Row

01-17-2008, 03:20 PM

Yeah, but who is he though? Sounds like he was a KH fan. Not a bad game. Not the best though.

drob127

01-17-2008, 10:47 PM

it was a guy or kid and his name was sora kahn and everyone thought it was a girl cuz of the avatar he had and that sora kinda sounds and looks like sara...forget what it was but it wasnt what a guy would have so people started callin him sara as a mistake but then it just stuck sara kahn and it was funny and no matter what thread he was in he would find a way to talk bout superman and how wb hates him and so on and so on

King_of_Skid_Row

01-17-2008, 10:55 PM

Oh. Well, I recognize the name Sora. It's from that Kingdom Hearts game series. So everyone kept calling him a girl. Heh. Funny.

Well, we know for a fact WB doesn't hate Superman. But they do need to make some different decisions regarding franchise. Like add some more sci fi and adventure. And this kid thing could be effective if written right.

I hope this Sarah....Sora comes back. I'd think we'd have quite a debate regarding Superman.

SouthsideX300

01-18-2008, 12:41 AM

Sara Kahn was notorious for ripping apart Superman Returns every chance he got, im sorry i brought him up.

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-18-2008, 07:35 PM

drob127

01-18-2008, 10:56 PM

it wasnt just in the superman thread in was in every thread he had a way of turning any conversation into how WB hates superman and superman this and superman that

King_of_Skid_Row

01-18-2008, 11:58 PM

Well...from the sound of it he's definitely not like the KH character. He'd be really hyper if he was.

But back on topic, if they do continue the series, what do you guys think they should do with the Superman/son subplot?

Agent Deadpool

01-19-2008, 08:18 AM

rosncranz

01-19-2008, 01:16 PM

In all honesty, if I got railed on the way Sora did, when he continued to tell people time and again he was a guy, and the immaturity that was shown to him (even though I hear he could be a tad immature at times) I would probably get frustrated and stop posting my opinions as well. If anyone cared to read what he was posting instead of being 5th graders and calling him a girl, he just felt that the way Superman was being treated on the big screen was possibly a sign they didn't care for the character as much as say Batman, though he said it in a much more nonsensical manner. I agree he liked to stir up trouble, and I wasn't around these boards during his legendary run in the Superman Returns thread so I just think he was bashed a bit and he left.

Sounds a lot like Sora.

First of all I was not aware of any immaturity toward him but I am sure it was deserved. He was the most immature person on these boards and constantly brought up SR when it was not even part of the topic.

But I am sure you knew all this...and the term is not legendary more like infamous, and even that is giving him too much credit.

drob127

01-19-2008, 10:35 PM

^lol

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-20-2008, 05:53 AM

Sounds a lot like Sora.

First of all I was not aware of any immaturity toward him but I am sure it was deserved. He was the most immature person on these boards and constantly brought up SR when it was not even part of the topic.

But I am sure you knew all this...and the term is not legendary more like infamous, and even that is giving him too much credit.

I'm nothing like Sora, just thought he got a rough ride. As I stated, I wasn't even around when all the crap went down in the SR discussion. I don't like seeing anyone on these boards get ganged up on, whether it might be somewhat deserved or not. If someone was going off on him for being a prick about SR, then so be it, but it wasn't that. It was like watching a bunch of 5 year olds, Sora included and it took the Star Trek XI thread WAY of topic, kinda like this stupidity is to the Superman: Man of Steel thread.

King_of_Skid_Row

01-20-2008, 04:28 PM

Okay, I just went and read some of Sora's comments. He did take it over board from what I saw. But I also noticed that some of the other users also showed an extreme level of immaturity. So from what I read, everyone was acting immature.

I mean serious people, it was just Superman. And, Sora, whereever you are, Superman isn't a dead beat father. The only reason he left at the end is because had to do the famous Superman film exit in space.

P.S- I think everyone should make up with each other. Sora and everyone. Let's be a happy family.....okay, that sounded cheesy.

drob127

01-20-2008, 10:24 PM

speechless

Sora Kahn

01-21-2008, 01:46 PM

I've been around. I just haven't signed in up until now.

To Skid: Okay, so maybe he isn't a dead beat. Perhaps I did take the SR bashing too far. Maybe SR wasn't as bad as I made it out to be. But still I wouldn't mind seeing a better S film.

Oh and in response to your PM...no, that's not my wife. I'm not even married yet. It was just some immature joke from some idiot on these boards. And, Skid, I already tried to make up but everyone decided to become a bunch of whiny pieces of you know what. So I'm not apologizing for nothing. Everyone on here should learn to accept peoples opinions and not resort to childish antics.

As for Superman, the sequel is not going to happen for a long time. The WB is too locked on Justice League. Question is will they do big blue justice in that film. He is partly a supervillain according to the script.

DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE

01-21-2008, 03:03 PM

Forget Superman Returns, the big story of the day is...Sora Kahn Returns!!!

I hold nothing against you because like I said before, I wasn't here when you got your rep, but I still think an apology might go a long way to ending all the ill will Sora. Oh, and BTW, I'll give you L.o.E.G truly was a mess, but Hellboy was an awesome adaptation, and I can't wait to see the sequel.

King_of_Skid_Row

01-21-2008, 03:22 PM

Yeah, it would help, Sora.

Sora Kahn

01-21-2008, 03:25 PM

Alright. I'm sorry for all the stupid things I said. I also apologize for dragging
SR into every topic. I hope you all forgive me for all that stupidity. This is an apology to everyone.

And detective, I agree. The sequel to Hellboy looks real good. I saw a preview of it in my showing of Cloverfield.

Stop! If you guys say his name three times he will come back!

I'm back for now. I missed you, rosncranz ;) .

drob127

01-21-2008, 10:50 PM

SR? Sora Returns

how the hell did u kno that we were talkin bout you ? either you have ESP or you know someone on here...good to have ya back

King_of_Skid_Row

01-22-2008, 01:02 AM

Well...I kind of PMed him. But still it is interesting that he just popped up like that.

abrooks77

01-22-2008, 07:14 AM

So I'm not apologizing for nothing.

Double Negatives make me laugh! :lol:

drob127

01-22-2008, 10:35 PM

maybe sora has 2 names on here you never know

henry80

02-18-2008, 02:01 PM

I really think the Superman sequel is going along alot more than we think. With WB giving it the official go head a while ago now and yeah Singer has been filming Valkerie but he works with the same group of people on his films so the amount of pre-production that could be finished is certainly enough to start early this year. I think that Bryan has known the direction and even specific plot points for almost two years. With all the things he has said about "Wrath Of Khan" and giving hints of two villians I just feel that they are really being quiet about the whole thing. I mean c'mon they obviously has the means to do so....none of them have to spill the news on this project. All the finances and resources are at their disposal to keep this quiet or blow it up. Last year sometime Spacey met with Singer and attached himself. And Superman Returns was by NO means a box office failure...I see so many comparing it to Batman Begins but it was only 5 million shy domestically of that one which is nothing and obviously Batman is going ahead. Besides at the very least we still have 16 months to a possible release date...that is sooo much time to make this now granted they should get on the ball if they have'nt already but it's not down to the wire or anything. And I seriously don't think that WB would skip another year and not push this franchise into production! They do after all have hundreds of millions riding on it. It is hard to believe that Justice League was going to start....with the exception of Common I don't think anyone fits the bill. But after all this time GL and WW are still the only "confirmed" of the cast...meaning the only ones that have come out publicly stating "yes, i am in justice league!" Nothing about the supposed premise excites me and I absolutly love DC but I don't like the choice of director,actors or for that matter the exclusion of the two actors you NEED! I have to stop ranting now...but I will say that we should be hearing something about MOS within the next month and a half or so.

King_of_Skid_Row

02-18-2008, 07:38 PM

What was Lex Luthor in the movies anyway? Was he a real estate agent gone bad?

Also, in a way, I actually view SR as Superman V. I've found that the movie could actually take place after Superman IV.

drob127

02-18-2008, 10:34 PM

if you were in the JLA movie would you want to admit it...lol

henry80

02-19-2008, 01:12 PM

hahaha i guess yo're right drob127!
here are some more thought on MOS and beyond:
Braniac-Ed Norton(think about it,you know it rules!)
Bizarro-Bruce Campbell(see above)
Metallo-the bankrobber from SR
Mongul-Michael Clarke Duncan(also would make a cool Darkseid)
Eradicator-Eric Bana
Cyborg Superman-Tom Welling
Green Lantern(Hal)-Hayden Christensen
Green Lantern(John)-Common
Martian Manhunter-Doug Jones
Sinestro-Hugo Weaving
AquaMan-Armie Hammer
Some of this has already been said I know

henry80

02-19-2008, 01:15 PM

Lobo-Tyler Mane!!!!
Parasite-Doug Jones(tasking him out as if I were directing a Hellboy flick)

King_of_Skid_Row

02-19-2008, 03:44 PM

Do you think Lex Luthor is going to come up with a better and different real estate scheme? I wonder if he'll try something against Australia.

I wonder what Zod will do in the movie.

drob127

02-19-2008, 10:55 PM

to be honest i really am gettin sick of them puttin lex luthor in these movies, i would rather him be out of this one

King_of_Skid_Row

02-19-2008, 11:59 PM

He's actually the greatest comic book movie villain due to the fact, he survives at the end of each film. And that's the way it should be :) . If there is a sequel, it should have a supervillain and Lex Luthor.

I watched SR again. And I think the only flaw the movie had was the twist of Jason being Superman's son. I would've prefered if Jason wasn't Lois or Superman's son. Just an adopted kid. Besides adopting sounds like something the Donnerverse Lois would do.

henry80

02-20-2008, 07:50 PM

I think Lex should and obviously will be in the sequel but his death at the hands of oh someone like Braniac would be great.....totally unexpected(especially to him)just imagine the look on his face when he realizes he's not so in control of the situation. Like Braniac double crosses Lex and kills him in some great way.
The sequel should be Braniac and Metallo with Luthor in a smaller but no less signifigant role.
The third should be Batman and Parasite and Bizarro.
The fourth could be Green Lantern(Hal),Eradicator,Mongul and Cyborg...and the destruction of Coast City!

drob127

02-20-2008, 11:11 PM

i dont think they should kill lex off, i just would like to see someone other than him or like king of skid row said have lex and another villian i would go for that.

Naite22

02-23-2008, 08:23 AM

I think it ****ing sucks if We dont get that sequel to Superman Returns. It had it's flaws yes, but damn it's still an awesome movie! And it ticks the hell out of me that an ULTRA crappy movie like Fantastic 4 keep getting lamo sequels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Singer should truely get to make his man of steel picture, he deserves it!... Brandon Routh was more than amazing as Superman, if they replace him I'll ****ing kill the son of a (MAJOR) ***** who was responsible for it!

I WANT THAT SEQUEL!!! (it's full of potential)