Smallville

[Baadshah]

i have no clue, i was in a rush. I have no clue why i used HW, oh well

[Freelow]

Originally posted by Freelow
By far, one of the best episodes of Smallville to date.

Thought it was great when Clark was walking through the looney bin to see Lex - seeing faces from his past.



Now for some fun......Who found the Easter Egg in the episode and what was it?

Hint....another DC comic character was mentioned in the show. It was only in the show for approximately 3 to 5 seconds.


Go Partiots


In the show, when the H.I. kid is walking in to Lex's cell while Lex is tied down, he asks Lex if he wants a magazine, newspaper, etc.

As he is leaving, you can read the headline on the Daily Planet announces something about the Themiscarian (SP?) Queen.

Later

[Baadshah]

ya, so?

[spiderman_2k]

The 3rd episode was just shown in the UK, Very cool episode, the Kryptonite bullets were a great novelty..And the way the episode linked all the way back to the last season was great too.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by Baadshah
ya, so?


Themyscira is where Wonder Woman and all the other Amazons are from. The Themysciran Queen would be Wonder Woman's mother, Hippolyta.

[sphericthor]

Watched the 3rd episode last night and just like Spidey I thought the kryptonite bullets were a great idea. Can't wait to see more episodes to see what's gonna happen

[Baadshah]

3.10 Whisper
awesome show, thee best i seen so far. It was awesome how we see Clark put on the glasses, very great scene, hope he wears them later on the shows. I know this episode was about his new power hearing, it was obvious.

[cg124]

ok i need to ask a hugh favor(sp) i missed the show and can anyone tell me what happened in last nights episode

[Baadshah]

oh no, not again :(, I think this will help
You should really watch, or if you can't and you have to leave in the middle of it, just tape the rest. But here:
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/episodes/s3/fullnews.php?id=12

[Baadshah]

Whisper (http://i.cnn.net/thewb/trailer/quicktime/SM310-trl.mov)
Delete (http://i.cnn.net/thewb/trailer/quicktime/SM311-trl.mov)

[sphericthor]

Woohoo another good episode last night, Katharine Isabelle in a kind of Nightmare on Elm Street episode where she appears at a lake first ala Friday the 13th all coinciding with the Region 2 release of Freddy vs Jason on DVD

[spiderman_2k]

It was a cool episode, but I was pissed that the preview of it last week gave away that Clark was In a dream for the first 20 mins After Lex hit him with that Katana I would have guessed anyway, but upto that point I would have been oblivious.

[sphericthor]

I must've missed the preview then because I wasn't aware he was in a dream when that happened until he woke up

[Baadshah]

jjjjjeeeezzzzz, you guys are way behind. Download the episodes on Kazaa, they are like on HDTV quality. You will love the episode Whisper, I promise you

[cg124]

Originally posted by Baadshah
oh no, not again :(, I think this will help
You should really watch, or if you can't and you have to leave in the middle of it, just tape the rest. But here:
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/episodes/s3/fullnews.php?id=12

thanks i won't miss anymore episodes

[Baadshah]

well, we got to here Lois Lane's name mentioned in this week's show. Very interesting, so she is Chloe's cousin, i feel sorry for Chloe

[UnicornBlood3]

I noticed that too. I was like uh oh. I wonder when she'll come along.

[Baadshah]

i hope not soon. I didn't like the fact that she made her Chloe's cousin. But, they didn't anyway, i hope we don't see her so soon, i hope maybe in the last season. She better be better looking than Lana

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
She better be better looking than Lana

Why?
IMO Lana is pretty hard to beat.

[Baadshah]

Lois Lane has to be. She must. She must be the perfect girl for Superman, so she has to be better than Lana

[Klimber]

Originally posted by Baadshah
well, we got to here Lois Lane's name mentioned in this week's show. Very interesting, so she is Chloe's cousin, i feel sorry for Chloe

I think that you guys are missing the point, It is not so much that Lois Lane is Chloe cousin (chances are that we may never meet cousin Lois) more importantly it is that Chloe might continue to write for the Daily Planet under the pen name of Lois Lane. She said that her cousin has no intrest in jounalism or writing so she would not care if her cousin Chloe used her name as a Pseudonym. What the show is laying the ground work for is that Chloe is The Daily Planet's Lois Lane in the future. It is a clever plot twist. Much like the episode with Perry White. I mean in the world of writers would you really care if Samuel Clemens had a real cousin named Mark Twain...not likely nor would you care if he was better looking than Lana.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that with the editor position now open at the Daily Planet we are going to see Perry White slip into the position and Chloe strikes a deal to continue to write stories as Lois Lane.

Damn I should do this for a living...

[Baadshah]

so your saying is that Chloe is Lois?

[spiderman_2k]

I remeber hearing a rumour of this a while ago.

[Klimber]

If you have the show taped rewatch it. Chloe is going to become the Lois Lane character in Clark's Future.

[Cartagia]

Anybody else even more suspicious of Adam being Bruce Wayne after his major butt-kicking sequence?

[Baadshah]

no, it will be too wierd, and makes no sense, since he is supposed to be a rich kid. I for Chloe to be Lois Lane, that makes no sense, that would mean she was born in Smallville, which she wasn't

[spiderman_2k]

Was she born in Smallville?
We know that Clark and Pete have been best friends since pre-school, but do we know how long Chloe has lived in Smallville?

[Baadshah]

but Chloe isn't suppose to know Clark. That is fact. In comics, movies, and television and cartoons, Lois meets Clark in the Daily Planet. I think that is why they created a character Chloe, so she could be a link between Clark and Lois, i think

[spiderman_2k]

Yes, but also Fact is that Smallville is not so close to Metropolis.
Smallville is reworking the mythology of Superman, new twists and story lines.

Chloe Sullivan
Lois Lane

Like someone said you can make the name Lois Lane, out of Chloe Sullivan, with only a few letters left over...Chulv

[BlakeAE77]

I had thought for a long time that Chloe would end up being Lois Lane or at least using the pen name. I watched the show last night and, although they didn't come out and say it, it's pretty obvious that Chloe will actually be Lois Lane. It's either that or Lois gets the job at the Planet only because of the stories that Chloe wrote, which would be wrong of Lois since she's had no interest in journalism. I like the idea of Chloe being Lois personally, it's a good twist.

And about Adam possibly being Bruce Wayne...after last night's kung fu Adam, I had actually thought that. Then after visiting Rumorville, there's does seem to be a possibility.

[Baadshah]

or, she has a cousin named Lois Lane.

[Baadshah]

oh yeah and also. It doesn't matter now since that guy died who was suppose to publish the article under the name of Lois Lane

[UnicornBlood3]

Lex took the article didnt he?

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by Baadshah
or, she has a cousin named Lois Lane.

Well, we know that she has a cousin named Lois Lane. My thing is that Lois has no interest in journalism, so Chloe uses her cousin's name to continue writing for the Daily Planet. And I definately think we'll be seeing something about the discs with articles that Chloe wrote again in future episodes. If Chloe doesn't end up writing under the pen name of Lois Lane, the discs wll be part of the introduction to Lois' character.

[Klimber]

Originally posted by Baadshah
oh yeah and also. It doesn't matter now since that guy died who was suppose to publish the article under the name of Lois Lane

Well you never know, I think if my Perry White senerio pans out he could continue the column under Lois Lane. He kind of owes Chloe a favor since she helped to get his life back on track.

[Baadshah]

but why would they use Lois Lane. The guy who only knew about her name died, by a pencil hehe

[Jack_Bauer247]

I just saw the episode, and i have to agree adam could be bruce wayne he deffinately has the batman moves.

[Alien]

Originally posted by Cartagia
Anybody else even more suspicious of Adam being Bruce Wayne after his major butt-kicking sequence? I haven’t seen him but as soon as I read he has secretes of his own and he’s not a kryptonite ‘freak’ I started thinking other famous DC character, most likely the Bat but I don't know.

[bbf2]

Plus, of course his fake name would be Adam, after Adam West....clever eh?

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by Baadshah
but why would they use Lois Lane. The guy who only knew about her name died, by a pencil hehe

I don't know why Chloe chose her own cousin's name to be printed with the stories. If the stories about Summerholt were actually printed in the Daily PLanet, she could have put Lois in the same kind of danger that she put herself in. Perhaps it's that she actually has no cousin. But whatever the case, Chloe can't use her own name to write, because Lionel wouldn't allow it.

[Lackey]

The only reason they mentioned Lois Lane's name is to confirm to everyone that her and Chloe are indeed cousins.

Clark cannot meet Lois until he gets a job with the Daily Planet and starts his "career" as Superman... and I'm certain the writers won't have them meet before.

The writers have not and cannot use Bruce Wayne in Smallville because of legal reasons... and with the new Batman movie already in pre-production, it's not going to happen.


my feeling on this is that somewhere along the line...maye the last season, Chloe is going to die.

[Baadshah]

i was looking through the season one dvd of Smallville to see if they mention Chloe's cousin, and they do. It's in the show Obscura, Pete and Chloe's dad mention a cousin of Chloe, but doesn't mention the name Lois, it has to be her

[spiderman_2k]

People do have more than 1 cousin you know....And if you are going to refer to another family memeber, saying Cousin is the simpilest.

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by Lackey
The only reason they mentioned Lois Lane's name is to confirm to everyone that her and Chloe are indeed cousins.

Clark cannot meet Lois until he gets a job with the Daily Planet and starts his "career" as Superman... and I'm certain the writers won't have them meet before.

The writers have not and cannot use Bruce Wayne in Smallville because of legal reasons... and with the new Batman movie already in pre-production, it's not going to happen.


my feeling on this is that somewhere along the line...maye the last season, Chloe is going to die.

The writers of Smallville have been known to alter the story of Superman to make it more interesting. I've heard rumors at KSite about having Lois appear on the show. And now that they've mentioned Lois' name, I think it's only a matter of time before we see Lois (or find out that Chloe is indeed Lois). I think they might be trying to bring in Lois earlier than we expect because Smallville may not run that much longer. Welling said that he has no interest in playing Clark Kent after high school, which means Smallville's run could end at the end of season 4. :( . Damn it Welling!

[Baadshah]

you got to be kidding. Tom Welling can't not do this to the fans

[spiderman_2k]

He can do what he wants, he would have given 4 solid seasons, which is more than I ever hoped.

[UnicornBlood3]

Aww..That would break my heart :(

[Baadshah]

for hit show like this, i don't think it would be only 4 seasons. It's not like every season is one year in high school

[spiderman_2k]

If one of the major cast do not want to return (Tom, Kristin or Michael) I cant see the series working anymore, I would rather it end on a high note then get dragged down by replacing characters and bad storylines (X-Files and Buffy)

And about the Chloe being Lois thing, I just rewatched the episode "Slumber" and even though when Chloe takes down the wall of wierd is in Clarks dream, the way Chloe talks about serious journalism Makes me believe strongly in the idea of Chloe being Lois.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by BlakeAE77
Welling said that he has no interest in playing Clark Kent after high school, which means Smallville's run could end at the end of season 4. :( . Damn it Welling!

It's not really Welling's fault, the creators have said that they will not extend the show into the "college years"

[spiderman_2k]

I thought they would go on for 7 seasons though IMO It is a fairly average run, but if one of them want to pull out, they should just end the show there.

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by Baadshah
for hit show like this, i don't think it would be only 4 seasons. It's not like every season is one year in high school

Well, so far during the run of the show, hasn't each season been like a year? I think it has.

[BlakeAE77]

By the way, for those who didn't hear. Season 2 will be released in May! :applaud: :applaud:

[spiderman_2k]

Yes in the "Perry" episode Perry said that Lex drove his porshe off of the bridge 2 years ago....

That episode was just shown here in the UK, and have to say It was my favourite so far, great storyline with Perry at the end, I love the way they are handling this new Mythology, and the part where His powers went into turbo and he sent the tractor flying was great.

I didn't expect Season 2 to be out so quickly that is great news.

[JediPaul]

Best moment of season 3 (from a UK viewpoint) as been when Clark got shot by the kryptonite bullet, that was brilliant. So far, both seasons one and two have been a full school year.

Is Clark now in his last year at school? What will they do about that for season 4.

I would still like to see Tom Welling wear the tights for a Superman movie, or the least they could do would have him rip his shirt off in the very last seconds of the last ever Smallville episode, with the John Williams score blasting out in background and Clark revealing the 'S' on his costume and then he just shoots off into the sky.

[spiderman_2k]

Thats how I have always envisioned Smallville coming to an end.

[JediPaul]

It would be the right thing to do. Wonder when he's going to develop that ice cold breath of his.

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by JediPaul
Is Clark now in his last year at school? What will they do about that for season 4.

No, this season he's a junior. So he has a little less than a year and a half before he graduates.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by JediPaul
It would be the right thing to do. Wonder when he's going to develop that ice cold breath of his.

Probably In Season 4.

[Alien]

Originally posted by JediPaul
Best moment of season 3 (from a UK viewpoint) as been when Clark got shot by the kryptonite bullet, that was brilliant.Yes that was good but Skinny-dipping Lana was better.

[JediPaul]

Yes, that too was a great moment, but you can't beat the Lana moment when she's stripping down in the school pool in 'Nicodemus' episode of season one.

[Klimber]

I will take Clark's mutation into KEL any day of the week as my vote.

[Alien]

Originally posted by JediPaul
Yes, that too was a great moment, but you can't beat the Lana moment when she's stripping down in the school pool in 'Nicodemus' episode of season one. I'd say the 2 were pretty equal.

[JediPaul]

Ummmmmmmmmmm Lana

[spiderman_2k]

Yes they are very much equal.

[LS2002]

Well what a very shocking ending to a good episode.

Adam Died? Does that mean hes a ghost? Well actually that makes no since to me at all. And what Happened to Johnathan? That was truly a shocker at the end wasn't expecting that to happen at all. Is he dead or just badly injuried I guess we will find out although the Preview doesn't show anything with I guess is a good thing

[Kyle Katarn]

What happened in the ending...Also happened in the movie, with fatal results! Pa Kent may still be alive in the comic mythos, but this IS a whole different take on it...!

Also an interesting revelation on Adam...I was half hoping the precog boy was gonna say he saw a bat in his future, or that he's killed by a clown, or something! ;) But I guess not....IMO, this weeks ep kills any remaining "Adam is really Bruce Wayne" ideas...!

[LS2002]

Damn that would of been cool if he said that!

[Kyle Katarn]

I was literally on the edge of my seat waiting for it....! :D I haven't been watching faithfully, but as a huge Bat fan, the idea of having Bruce Wayne in Smallville - even "incognito" - was sweet!

[LS2002]

You know I think I know what is happening to Johnathan he is facing the price of his deal to Jor-El

[Lackey]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
I was literally on the edge of my seat waiting for it....! :D I haven't been watching faithfully, but as a huge Bat fan, the idea of having Bruce Wayne in Smallville - even "incognito" - was sweet!


I thought it was cool that the kid told Clark he wasn't going to die... but what would've been cool to see is a quick vision of Doomsday or something that alluded to that.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by LS2002
You know I think I know what is happening to Johnathan he is facing the price of his deal to Jor-El


Oh, good theory, I had forgotten about that.

[Kyle Katarn]

Lackey - now THAT would have been cooler than Bruce Wayne!

[Baadshah]

i say the best scene in the whole Smallville Series so far was the vision that the boy had of Clark's future. That was amazing scene, gave me goosebumbs

[Baadshah]

i heard of the name Adam Knight before? but where
Adam Knight = Dark Knight :)

[Klimber]

Great episode but I really hate how the writers just morph the story line to fit their episode purposes. Like Lana being on the cross country track team...since when? That chick has no free time as it is so now she's on the track team???

[Klimber]

Originally posted by LS2002
Well what a very shocking ending to a good episode.

Adam Died? Does that mean hes a ghost? Well actually that makes no since to me at all. And what Happened to Johnathan? That was truly a shocker at the end wasn't expecting that to happen at all. Is he dead or just badly injuried I guess we will find out although the Preview doesn't show anything with I guess is a good thing

What I could not understand is why Clark just sat there calling for his mom at the end of the show. Hello you run faster than a speeding bullet...run Dad to the Emergency Room and Call mom when you get there!!

[UnicornBlood3]

I was wondering the same thing. Or at least pick him up and take him into the house..

[Baadshah]

he might not know what to do. It is his father, so he isn't thinking straight, so the first thing he does his call his mother, pretty reasonable

[Baadshah]

has anyone thought that when the kid told Lana that Adam is died, couldn't he mean metaphorically. If Adam is Bruce Wayne, which i think he is, he could be dead inside because of his parent's death

[BlakeAE77]

Last night's epsiode was good. Although, we've seen psychics and fortune tellers before so I was kind of disappointed when they brought back another fotw with powers we've seen too many times before. But I agree with Baadshah about the scene about Clark's future...it was awesome. And it looks like Adam is not Bruce Wayne. Kind of a disappointment. And about Jonathon...*spoiler warning*...he's not dead...at least not yet. I was reading that he has open heart surgery in a later episode, and I have a feeling he won't make it. And if they "lose" a character this season, I think they should bring in Jimmy Olsen next season as a freshmen at Smallville High...just a thought.

[Baadshah]

you know. I thought Clark Kent is the only Smallvillian at the Daily Planet, which is what made him different, a country boy in the big city. They can't have everyone from Clark Kent's future to be involved in Smallville. Perry White was reasonable and understandable. That is why Chloe isn't Lois Lane, that would be stupid and wrong, and won't make any sense.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
That is why Chloe isn't Lois Lane, that would be stupid and wrong, and won't make any sense.

Explain to me why.
Chloe is not really a small town girl, We dont know how long she had lived in Smallville, shes not exactly a farmer is she, she is upto date on everything, she is more town than farm.
And It would make sense, As people have said you can rearrange the name Chloe Sullivan and get Lois Lane with only 3 or so letters left over. She is a vey keen reporter and very story driven, much like Lois, It seems even dumber to believe that both Chloe and Lois have a love of reporting so strong, Also after watching the Perry episode, I believe that Chloe is definatly Lois, the seeds have been sowed for a career in journalism.

[Baadshah]

because Lois and Clark meets for the first time in Daily Planet. And so what if you could rearrange her name to form Lois Lane, there is still 3 letters left over isn't there. Chloe being Lois Lane will really skrew up the show. I thought it was evident that she already mentioned that she has a cousin named Lois Lane, and that enough. I don't know why people are anxious for Chloe to be Lois Lane, because i surely don't.

[spiderman_2k]

In normal mythology yes they met in the Daily Planet, but as you may or may not have noticed Smallville is changing the mythology, the ends justify the means, Clark will always end up as Superman no matter what.
And so what if there is 3 letters, its certainly better then not being able to get anything out of the name.

[Baadshah]

would u want Chloe to be Lois Lane? And i think Lois Lane is Chloe's cousin, and they justified that in the show already...

[Baadshah]

nice
first pic is spoiler, so watch out for the UK folks


edit: Removed pic because of possible spoilers from an excellent episode called Hereafter

[BlakeAE77]

I think we'll find our answers in Smallville soon enough about the whole "Chlois" question. It might be next season before we find out, but we WILL find out. I personally would like Chloe to be Lois Lane. I didn't like the idea at first but now I think it fits.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by BlakeAE77
I think we'll find our answers in Smallville soon enough about the whole "Chlois" question. It might be next season before we find out, but we WILL find out. I personally would like Chloe to be Lois Lane. I didn't like the idea at first but now I think it fits.

It doesn't fit anything! How many Smallville people can be connected the Clark's future? We have Lex, his parents, and Perry White.... Aside from a few irrelevant comic characters, and perhaps maybe one or two big ones like Batman and Wonder Woman in the next season or two, leave the ties to his future at a minimum... Smallville is supposed to be a show in and of itself...

Chloe is Chloe.

Adam is, well, Adam, perhaps a clone of Lex's dead brother Julian or a clone of even Lex or Clark, but NOT BRUCE WAYNE!

And Johnathan? He'll be fine for another few episodes, maybe even the next few seasons... Not a big deal yet...

[Baadshah]

exactly. How don't see how they could justify Chloe being Lois Lane. It doesn't make sense. And yes, they are changing much of the Mythology, but how much do we know of the Smallville stories. Not much, they show Smallville in the Superman movie, but only for like 15 minutes. And i doubt there are stories that take place in Smallville in the Superman comics.

Trust me, Chloe isn't Lois Lane. There is like no evidence that Chloe is Lois Lane.

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by Baadshah
would u want Chloe to be Lois Lane? And i think Lois Lane is Chloe's cousin, and they justified that in the show already...

They also justified that Lois Lane has no interest in journalism. A person like Lois Lane doesn't just wake up one day and decide that she wants to be a journalist. She has to have the passion and the drive do something like that. Chloe has that passion, and it wouldn't be fair if Lois ends up writing for the Daily Planet when it's been Chloe's dream her whole life. So I don't know how it will happen, but I think Chloe will end up writing for the Daily Planet under the pen name of Lois Lane. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I don't care. Whatever happens the writers of smallville will answer our question, and their decision will be a good one. They won't disappoint.

[Baadshah]

but that was Chloe's opinion for saying that Lois Lane is not interest in journalism. And, she must be a high school student like Clark, so she probably doesn't know what she wants to do.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
is like no evidence that Chloe is Lois Lane.

Is there any evidence that she isn't?

[Alien]

Originally posted by Baadshah
nice
first pic is spoiler, so watch out for the UK folks
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/imagegallery/albums/Season3/312/Hereafter_170.jpg

what is this, is this the sun???????
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/imagegallery/albums/Season3/312/Hereafter_178.jpg Now you've done it... What are they pics of?

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Alien
Now you've done it... What are they pics of?

well, you could right click the pic if it appears to be an 'X'. then paste the image link to your browser. If you are a UK person, than you won't know what i mean because it's from a future show that aired already here in the US>

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Is there any evidence that she isn't?
yes, she said she has a cousin named Lois Lane. Why would she use the name Lois Lane to do her articles in the future if she is Lois lane. that doesn't mean she safe from Lionel.

Let me see more evidence:
- Chloe Sullivan has a father, but no mother, where as Lois Lane has both parents
- Lois Lane meets Clark at the Daily Planet.
- Lois falls in love with Clark after getting to know him in Metropolis, not Smallville
- Lois Lane didn't go to Smallville High
- It's everywhere, comics tv and movies, that's evident that Lois Lane meets Clark at the Daily Planet.
- The only man that knows about the name Lois Lane so they could use it for the articles died, so her name won't be used for the Chloe articles.

What more evidence do you need?

[spiderman_2k]

When did she say she had a cousin named Lois Lane? Which exact episode?

1.Lois Didn't know her mother too well.
2.You are basing this off of normal mythology
3.You are basing this off of normal mythology
4.Ditto
5.Ditto

You dont seem to get that for Smallville they are keeping the characters that will play an Intergral role in Superman's future in the show.

Lex was never in Smallville, he didn't lose his hair as a result of the meteor shower, He never was best friends with Clark, yet the writers have chosen to have one of the most influencial characters in the Superman mytholgy in the series.
Perry White shows up...Once again another Major Character that had no need to ever be in Smallville, but the writers chose to put him in...If Bruce Wayne does show up, that will be a foreshadow to the future.
It seems the only Integral character left out is Lois, and Chloe is basically the same character as Lois, both determined, both hard hitting reporters, both in love with Clark.
Seeing as though the cast have said they dont plan on doing a Metropolis series, IMO the writers are fitting the entire new mytholy into the one series, so they have to set up Lois and Clark before the series ends, and what better way then to make it someone who he knows and has known, it will have no devestating effect on the future as there will be no show after Smallville.

[Lackey]

I agree with Baadshah...
I don't know why people think the Chloe is Lois Lane

(or why they thought Adam was Bruce Wayne, for that matter).


When Clark Kent meets Lois Lane, he will fall in love with her... (she is a combination of the attributes that he likes of Chloe and Lana)
Lois Lane will develop an infatuation with Superman when he shows up in Metropolis... but will not think much of Clark Kent, some small town fish out of water, and in fact, somewhat grow to dislike him and he proves his worth as a reporter and she has to compete with him for the best stories.
From the moment he meets Lois, he wants to be with her... but she doesn't feel the same way.

If Chloe was Lois, then Clark would have no problem getting together with her... and Chloe would have no problem putting two and two together and figuring out that Clark was Superman.


As for Lois not having the passion for journalism like Chloe does... she probably doesn't... she's still in high school. Clark, who eventually becomes one of the best journalist in the world, doesn't have a passion for journalism right now either.

[Alien]

Originally posted by Baadshah
well, you could right click the pic if it appears to be an 'X'. then paste the image link to your browser. If you are a UK person, than you won't know what i mean because it's from a future show that aired already here in the US> I'm in the UK which is why I'm asking. What is it? :waa:

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
When did she say she had a cousin named Lois Lane? Which exact episode?

1.Lois Didn't know her mother too well.
2.You are basing this off of normal mythology
3.You are basing this off of normal mythology
4.Ditto
5.Ditto

You dont seem to get that for Smallville they are keeping the characters that will play an Intergral role in Superman's future in the show.

Lex was never in Smallville, he didn't lose his hair as a result of the meteor shower, He never was best friends with Clark, yet the writers have chosen to have one of the most influencial characters in the Superman mytholgy in the series.
Perry White shows up...Once again another Major Character that had no need to ever be in Smallville, but the writers chose to put him in...If Bruce Wayne does show up, that will be a foreshadow to the future.
It seems the only Integral character left out is Lois, and Chloe is basically the same character as Lois, both determined, both hard hitting reporters, both in love with Clark.
Seeing as though the cast have said they dont plan on doing a Metropolis series, IMO the writers are fitting the entire new mytholy into the one series, so they have to set up Lois and Clark before the series ends, and what better way then to make it someone who he knows and has known, it will have no devestating effect on the future as there will be no show after Smallville.

ok, i think it's dangerous for you to come to this forum know :applaud: , i don't want to spoil anything so i will keep my mouth shut

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Alien
I'm in the UK which is why I'm asking. What is it? :waa:

don't open or view the pic at all, trust me. Actually i will remove it now so u guys won't be spoiled. But trust me, you will love the episode Hereafter after one single scene.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Lackey
I agree with Baadshah...
I don't know why people think the Chloe is Lois Lane

(or why they thought Adam was Bruce Wayne, for that matter).


When Clark Kent meets Lois Lane, he will fall in love with her... (she is a combination of the attributes that he likes of Chloe and Lana)
Lois Lane will develop an infatuation with Superman when he shows up in Metropolis... but will not think much of Clark Kent, some small town fish out of water, and in fact, somewhat grow to dislike him and he proves his worth as a reporter and she has to compete with him for the best stories.
From the moment he meets Lois, he wants to be with her... but she doesn't feel the same way.

If Chloe was Lois, then Clark would have no problem getting together with her... and Chloe would have no problem putting two and two together and figuring out that Clark was Superman.


As for Lois not having the passion for journalism like Chloe does... she probably doesn't... she's still in high school. Clark, who eventually becomes one of the best journalist in the world, doesn't have a passion for journalism right now either.

Yes but the point is they are not having anything after Smallville...And as I have said many times, things from any original mythology doesn't really count, Smallville writers already messed around with Lex's story, im sure they would mess with Lois too.

[Alien]

Originally posted by Baadshah
don't open or view the pic at all, trust me. Actually i will remove it now so u guys won't be spoiled. But trust me, you will love the episode Hereafter after one single scene. I've seen the pics already. Just tell me!

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Lackey
I agree with Baadshah...
I don't know why people think the Chloe is Lois Lane

(or why they thought Adam was Bruce Wayne, for that matter).


When Clark Kent meets Lois Lane, he will fall in love with her... (she is a combination of the attributes that he likes of Chloe and Lana)
Lois Lane will develop an infatuation with Superman when he shows up in Metropolis... but will not think much of Clark Kent, some small town fish out of water, and in fact, somewhat grow to dislike him and he proves his worth as a reporter and she has to compete with him for the best stories.
From the moment he meets Lois, he wants to be with her... but she doesn't feel the same way.

If Chloe was Lois, then Clark would have no problem getting together with her... and Chloe would have no problem putting two and two together and figuring out that Clark was Superman.


As for Lois not having the passion for journalism like Chloe does... she probably doesn't... she's still in high school. Clark, who eventually becomes one of the best journalist in the world, doesn't have a passion for journalism right now either.

that's so TRUE. Chloe would put two and two together about Clark and Superman, it wouldn't make sense for Chloe to be Lois lane. And about Adam you never know, he could be Bruce, but highly unlikey given the fact that he seems like a bad guy from the preview for Velocity

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Alien
I've seen the pics already. Just tell me!

no, i can't, from one Smallville fan to another, trust me. You don't want to get spoiled about that scene one bit. Trust me, you will love me

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Yes but the point is they are not having anything after Smallville...And as I have said many times, things from any original mythology doesn't really count, Smallville writers already messed around with Lex's story, im sure they would mess with Lois too.

But people from Superman's mythology came to Smallville (ex. Perry White and Lex), people don't turn into to crucially characters in Superman's future, like Chloe and Lois

[Alien]

Originally posted by Baadshah
no, i can't, from one Smallville fan to another, trust me. You don't want to get spoiled about that scene one bit. Trust me, you will love me If you don't tell me I'll find someone who will.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Baadshah
ok, i think it's dangerous for you to come to this forum know :applaud: , i don't want to spoil anything so i will keep my mouth shut

spiderman_2k, don't read the last page for possible spoilers

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
But people from Superman's mythology came to Smallville (ex. Perry White and Lex), people don't turn into to crucially characters in Superman's future, like Chloe and Lois

There's no real difference they are still directly involed in the early development of Superman..

Alien I am going to PM you.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Alien
If you don't tell me I'll find someone who will.
nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo, trust me. If you really want to be spoiled, than tell me what you saw in the pics, but use spoiler tags

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
spiderman_2k, don't read the last page for possible spoilers

I already know something about the last episode aired in america that is simply amazing.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
I already know something about the last episode aired in america that is simply amazing.

did you see the episode?

[spiderman_2k]

No but I have seen some screen captures of something breathtaking

[Baadshah]

omg, than you got spoiled incredibly, you should have seen it in motion, it was awesome, best scene in the Smallville series

[Baadshah]

i will try to paste a clip of that scene, it might take awhile if you guys want?

[spiderman_2k]

Im currently downloading the scene.

[Baadshah]

where

[Lackey]

Kazaa maybe.

oops (http://www.wideopenwest.com/~whenthecut/cape.JPG)

[spiderman_2k]

Just saw the scene...****ing amazing.

[Baadshah]

where

[spiderman_2k]

I downloaded it from a link on the Kryptonsite message boards.

[Alien]

Originally posted by Lackey
oops (http://www.wideopenwest.com/~whenthecut/cape.JPG) See, now that's what I thought it was.

[spiderman_2k]

Oh I guess it is only a picture link in here.

[Baadshah]

found the video clip

[Baadshah]

you should seen the whole episode to understood what happened

[Alien]

After watching the video I've decided it's nothing bigg, it's not like he's getting it.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
you should seen the whole episode to understood what happened
I understand about the kids Powers and stuff

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Alien
After watching the video I've decided it's nothing bigg, it's not like he's getting it.
whos getting what?

[Alien]

Originally posted by Baadshah
whos getting what? No one is getting the thing that is clearly visible in the kid’s vision. But unless the kid sees something that we don’t why doesn’t the kid think CK1 is dieing in space?

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Alien
No one is getting the thing that is clearly visible in the kid’s vision. But unless the kid sees something that we don’t why doesn’t the kid think CK1 is dieing in space?

well since you read the spoilers, i will tell you
the boy doesn't see Clark dying in space, he sees him live on, he tells Clark about the vision he had and tells him that Clark will live forever, and of course Clark denies and is confused

[Alien]

Originally posted by Baadshah
well since you read the spoilers, i will tell you
the boy doesn't see Clark dying in space, he sees him live on, he tells Clark about the vision he had and tells him that Clark will live forever, and of course Clark denies and is confused How can Clark live forever anyway? Superman must die of old age at some time even if Doomsday isn't involved. What's to have stopped the people of CK's home world to have come here to all live forever before to exploded?

[spiderman_2k]

Kryptonians think earth is savage, but it is the only chance of survival for Kal-El, thats why they send him....
I know that Superman grows older slower than normal people, but I never knew he could live forever

[Alien]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Kryptonians think earth is savage, but it is the only chance of survival for Kal-El, thats why they send him....Well take over with there new super powers kill all humans and rule the world...

[spiderman_2k]

I dont think they believed in conquering like that, they loved there planet and i doubt they would ever want to leave it, Jor-El wants Clark to rule over them so it would be some trace of Krypton still dominate in the Galaxy.

[Kobolos]

Long post, and I have too many rampling thoughts for spoilers….you’ve been warned. I have a year to reply to, bear with me. :)

On Adam Knight:

Who is he? Two main theories I’ve been looking at:

He’s Bruce Wayne:
Pro: Adam=Adam West, Batman from 1966 TV show
Knight=Dark Knight

As Clark dresses in reds and blues, he dresses in blacks and grays

Bruce Wayne traveled extensively during his early years, it was the basis of the “Bruce Wayne” TV show that Smallville eventually became…and the actor was rumoured to be the actor chosen to play Bruce Wayne in that series.

Adam’s parents are dead

He is an exemplerary student….skilled in computers, kickboxing, and can play Rachmaninoff.

Cons: What’s this drug stuff about? Perhaps performance enhancing drugs? It’s been explored in the comics with “Venom”

Cross said he’s dead? Baadshah shares my theory that he’s dead inside. It’s been said many times that Bruce Wayne died on that fateful night in Crime Alley when Joe Chill killed his parents…it was the night the Batman was born.


Second theory: (spoilers)

Adam is a clone of Lionel.

Wednesday’s episode revealed that he has a security clearance at Luthercorp (I had it on tape and stared at the screen that Lex was looking at on his laptop)

Lionel’s parents are dead….wasn’t it in a fire? Hmmm….

The drugs are a side effect of the process

A clone could technically be confused as dead by Cross?


Cons: I’ll be pissed if it isn’t Bruce Wayne.




On Is Chloe Lois Lane?

WOO HOO…..Spiderman_2K is still keeping my theory alive a year later! Chloe Sullivan is an anagram for Lois Lane with only a 2-3 letters remaining….I knew you guys wouldn’t let me down….Whether it is true or not, It's nice to see people still bringing it up. Thanks for keeping it alive. :)

Here are the links to when Uncle Los brought this all up:

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4202&perpage=25&pagenumber=33

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4202&perpage=25&pagenumber=36

[Alien]

Originally posted by Kobolos
WOO HOO…..Spiderman_2K is still keeping my theory alive a year later! Chloe Sullivan is an anagram for Lois Lane with only a 2-3 letters remaining… Thanks for keeping it alive. :)Can you make a possible middle name out of "Ch ulv" the only letters remining from Chloe Sullivan when making Lois Lane? Does any one know is Lois Lane has a middle name?

[spiderman_2k]

Her middle name is Joanne

[Alien]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Her middle name is Joanne Lois Joanne Lane? :confused: That really doesn't go.

[Kobolos]

Joann according to what though?

The problem with Smallville is this...it is a canon unto itself....sure there will be similarities to events from the movies, tv series and comics, but they are beholden to none.

Just because he never met Lois Lane in the movies til he went to Metropolis means nothing here...he never met Perry White in the movies til then, yet lo and behold you've already seen him on Smallville....and isn't it a bit suspicious that Chloe has written for the daily planet at her age but her "cousin" will later on?

PS. After seeing it Wednesday....with Jonathan in Clark's arms bring memories of the heart attack scene from Superman 1...Anyone think Jonathan was affected worse by Jor-El's power granting than we all thought? I think it may be the what sends Pa Kent to the grave...


And the only thing I can think of with Clark aging slowly....Frank Miller brought up that very subject in Dark Knight Returns.

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah I know,
Out the letters left you can almost make Lucy, who is Lois's sister.
A very general connection, but something I spotted

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Kobolos
Joann according to what though?

The problem with Smallville is this...it is a canon unto itself....sure there will be similarities to events from the movies, tv series and comics, but they are beholden to none.

Just because he never met Lois Lane in the movies til he went to Metropolis means nothing here...he never met Perry White in the movies til then, yet lo and behold you've already seen him on Smallville....and isn't it a bit suspicious that Chloe has written for the daily planet at her age but her "cousin" will later on?

PS. After seeing it Wednesday....with Jonathan in Clark's arms bring memories of the heart attack scene from Superman 1...Anyone think Jonathan was affected worse by Jor-El's power granting than we all thought? I think it may be the what sends Pa Kent to the grave...

According to The Ultimate Guide To The Man Of Steel book.

I have been saying about how Smallville holds no relevance to the normal Superman mythology for quite some time now.

[Alien]

Originally posted by Kobolos
Just because he never met Lois Lane in the movies til he went to Metropolis means nothing here...he never met Perry White in the movies til then, yet lo and behold you've already seen him on Smallville....and isn't it a bit suspicious that Chloe has written for the daily planet at her age but her "cousin" will later on?Maybe Chloe puts in a good word for her cousin once she has moved on to bigger and better things.

[spiderman_2k]

The thing I dont get it, if people do want to say that this somehow relates to normal Mythology...Well, we know what Happens to Pete after Smallville, We know what happens to Lana, but I dont think there ever was a Chloe Sullivan in smallville, let alone after.

[B_Irish]

Hey,
Does anyone know where you can download new episodes of Season 3? BitTorrent or KaZaA don't work for me as I'm behind a firewall.
Help would be appreciated!
Thanks

[spiderman_2k]

Nope sorry, they are the only places I know where you can get them...

[Baadshah]

people aren't realizing that just because Perry White showed up doesn't mean Lois lane is Chloe. Maybe in some grand finale, they might skrew the audience by saying that Chloe is Lois Lane. but she already established that she has a cousin named Lois Lane. I think the people who are talking about this theory are UK folks who haven't seen the episode "Delete" yet

[spiderman_2k]

No-one said that just because Perry showed up that Chloe is Lois, but we are saying that the Superman mythoogy is being greatly changed in Smallville

[BlakeAE77]

Originally posted by Baadshah
people aren't realizing that just because Perry White showed up doesn't mean Lois lane is Chloe. Maybe in some grand finale, they might skrew the audience by saying that Chloe is Lois Lane. but she already established that she has a cousin named Lois Lane. I think the people who are talking about this theory are UK folks who haven't seen the episode "Delete" yet

Actually, I'm not in the UK and I believe this theory. It wasn't until I saw "Delete" that I really started to believe this theory, and I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying it's a possibility, and I know she has a cousin named Lois Lane. I'm not saying that she herself will change into her cousin. I'm saying that she could use her cousin's name to write for the Planet.

[spiderman_2k]

Just saw the episode about Jor-El being on earth...A great episode indeed.

[Tony Montana]

Why dont you download the episodes? They are usually online only a day after being on TV in US...

[Tony Montana]

Originally posted by BlakeAE77
Actually, I'm not in the UK and I believe this theory. It wasn't until I saw "Delete" that I really started to believe this theory, and I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying it's a possibility, and I know she has a cousin named Lois Lane. I'm not saying that she herself will change into her cousin. I'm saying that she could use her cousin's name to write for the Planet.


This never will happen, because it is a fact that Lois meets Clark first when they start working at Daily Planet...

[spiderman_2k]

Read the last 5 or 6 pages.

[Tony Montana]

Im too lazy...

[spiderman_2k]

Well to sum it up, your comment has been discussed.

[Baadshah]

even though they are changing the mythology of Superman, they aren't really changing it that much. I mean, what have they changed? There aren't many Smallville stories that people are familized with. Perry coming to Smallville isn't what i call a drastic change to the mythos of Superman. Perry isn't like a big character in Superman's life, so it was ok to introduce him in the show. But Chloe being Lois is too much of a change. Even though it's a slight possiblity, it's too much to handle

[spiderman_2k]

Okay, If you think that is a major change you must not know about Lex in the comics.
Lex grew up in Suicide Slum, he had an abusive mother and father who died in a car crash, he was friends with Perry White...He got a $300,000 cashback when his parents died, so that became the seeds of Lexcorp.
So the characters origin is changed, It is totally different from in the original mythology.

[Baadshah]

it's impossible to have a Superman show or movie with out Lex. It's obvious they only had him there because he is very important. And look at the show Lois and Clark, did Lex fall off a building the first season, but than came back in another season in the comics? I think not

[spiderman_2k]

Then cant the same be said that It's impossible to have a Superman show or movie without Lois Lane?

[Baadshah]

that is where Lana comes in. Lana Lang is the Smallville girl, while Lois Lane is the Metropolis girl, see the analogy

[spiderman_2k]

Yes I see it, but they could have put someone in for Lex...Instead of reworking his entire backstory.
Lois is an integral part of the Superman story, whether it is this Mythology or the original version. I like the idea that Chloe will be Lois, It makes it all complete IMO, I wont be pissed off because It will have been clever of the writers to include every major character, also setting up some sort of feelings between clark and Lois that we will never see in this Mythology.

[Baadshah]

but, Lois is supposed to be the perfect girl. Way better in looks and personality that Lana. That is how i see her. I actually liked the idea that they introduced Lois as Chloe's cousin. I like the idea more because it gives us hope that we may see Lois Lane in the show, maybe a show about Chloe's background or something.

[spiderman_2k]

No, the looks really mean nothing, If she was supposed to be amazingly beautiful she would be more than a reporter, ala MJ in Spider-Man, she is supposed to be beautiful yes, but IMO on the same level as Lana, and Lois is not supposed to be the perfect girl, she is often cold hearted when going after a story.

[Baadshah]

perfect girl for Superman i mean. And i don't see ur point on being more than a reporter for Lois because of her beauty. It's like saying Clark Kent should have used his powers for sports.

Bottom line, CHLOE IS NOT LOIS LANE, END OF DISCUSSION

[spiderman_2k]

Clark cant use his powers for sports, he has been raised against that.

How is that the bottom line?
You dont know the same as I dont know, but at the moment, there is more facts pointing to the fact that it could Possibly be Lois, than facts saying there isn't.

[Baadshah]

where dude, there is one fact that Chloe isn't Lois Lane, she said it herself. Watch the show "Delete", you will see, bye

[spiderman_2k]

If she mentions she has a cousin named Lois, that is by no means proof she doesn't use that name as a pen name when writing for the Planet.

[Baadshah]

that would be silly. Why would she do that, especially if the ....
wait, i may say some spoilers about the show, just watch the show and you will see. But from what u said, using the pen name Lois Lane is kind of silly considering the fact that i think Chloe would want to use her own name because she has reference from her work in the Smallville Ledger

[spiderman_2k]

Maybe something will happen that will tarnish that good reputation she has from the Ledger.

[Baadshah]

come on be reasonable here. You will see what happens in the coming episodes of what happens to the ledger.

[spiderman_2k]

I am being reasonable, I am being as reasonable as I can be with what I have seen, I am at least keeping an open mind about the direction the writers might be taking, I dont flatly deny any idea of Chloe being Lois.

[Baadshah]

ok, than what is ur proof that Chloe is Lois, besides the name :rolleyes:

[spiderman_2k]

I haven't said I have proof, just ideas.

There is the name, almost an Anagram of Lois Lane
There is the hard hitting Intrest in Journalism
There is the now connection to Perry White
There is the fact that she made a deal with Lionel
She has the right charisma that Lois has, put everything out of the way if a story is involved.

I also suggest you check out the 90 page thread on www.kryptonsite.com, Its under Episodes, then Spoilers.

[Lackey]

found this at that site

Al Gough Talks To KryptonSite
Incredibly busy executive producer Alfred Gough recently took the time to chat with KryptonSite a bit about the third season so far, and what is coming up with the show. Be warned, there may be some spoilery details below:

Gough tells us that the April 14 episode, "Legacy," will find Dr. Swann confronting Clark about his careless actions of the past few months, such as pushing people away and being careless. Gough also promises a clash of titans as we see Dr. Swann come into contact with Lionel Luthor. The consequences of Jonathan Kent's proverbial "deal with the devil" - the deal he made with Jor-El to bring back his son - will also come into play. It sounds as though the door is open for future appearances by Dr. Swann, and more firmly places Christopher Reeve's character into the Smallville universe.

Gough thinks that fans will be pleased with the Season 2 DVD set, which will have many of the features they had been hoping to have all along. Not only will it have commentaries from himself and Miles Millar, but fans can look forward to commentary from the actors as well as directors James Marshall and Greg Beeman. The DVD will also include the first series of "Chloe Chronicles" webisodes, for which Gough says there will be a sequel in the future.

When asked if Chloe is indeed the cousin of Lois Lane, Gough reminds us of what was said at the San Diego Comic Con in 2002, so apparently the plan for that character has not been altered and they are indeed cousins. Another question about comic book characters once planned involved Krypto. Gough reveals that at one point it was considered to incorporate Krypto into "Whisper," but it just seemed to be too much for the episode. Some more DC Universe characters, particularly from the Superman area of the DCU, may show up in the future, but they'll probably have to wait for Season Four. Likewise, there's potential for a return story for the popular Sheriff Ethan that may show up in the show's fourth year. Characters like Ethan as well as Dominic, Lionel Luthor's former lackey, still exist in the Smallville universe and they will certainly be used if and when time permits.

On the subject of speculation, we also asked Al Gough what he thinks of all of the speculation surrounding the Adam character from recent episodes. "I think it's great. I will set the record straight, and say he's not Bruce Wayne, or Batman, unfortunately, but he's definitely a dark and mysterious stranger who's come into Smallville, and I think you'll see over the next four episodes he really shakes it up.," Gough said. He added that they've always wanted to incorporate the character of Bruce Wayne into the series at some point, but that would likely be vetoed because of the Chris Nolan/David Goyer "Batman: Intimidation" film that is coming up. Superman-related guests are much more likely.

A story involving young Lex and his mother is planned for the 19th episode of Season Three, which will be directed by Miles Millar. In other directing news, Episode 20 will be directed by series star John Schneider, who has already been doing some second unit work for the show.

Finally, we asked if the show will follow the cast of characters to college once the high school time is over, and we received this reply. "God willing that the show is still on the air, yes. Some will be going to Smallville, some to Metropolis."

Gough seems enthused and very appreciative that the show has maintained the following it has, and appreciates the hard work of the crew up in Vancouver, who consistently put out a good product.

Thanks very much as always from us to Al Gough for his time.

[spiderman_2k]

Im not saying a Lois isn't Chloes cousin, but she could easily take that name as a pen name.

[Kobolos]

Originally posted by Baadshah
perfect girl for Superman i mean. And i don't see ur point on being more than a reporter for Lois because of her beauty. It's like saying Clark Kent should have used his powers for sports.

Bottom line, CHLOE IS NOT LOIS LANE, END OF DISCUSSION

Well that's certainly a strong debate point. Maybe end of discussion for you, but until I see Lois Lane and not the reporter formally known as Chloe Sullivan with Kal, then I'm not buying the creator's excuses.

And BTW, In some mythos, Clark *did* play Football during his teen years. Quarterback if I'm not mistaken.

Saying Perry White isn't a big character in Clark's life is silly.

Spiderman-2K has pointed to *alot* of evidence that Chloe MAY BE Lois....but I have seen absolutely no evidence supporting the other side except these two points:

She has a cousin named Lois
Clark isn't supposed to meet Lois til he moves to Metropolis...

One is a red herring to throw us off.

the other is an assumption based on what is known from 50 + years of history....history that is constantly being re-written on the show.

It kills me how strongly you resist such a notion when you constantly have rumours of clones, mind altering procedures, and freaky meteror rock radiation mutations in people on this show...

If Beyonce can be Lois Lane in the movie why can't Allison Mack be Lois on the show?


Ps.

Alfred Gough's not actual quote: "Why yes Julie, I'm going to go right out and admit that Chloe is Lois, thereby negating our biggest twist at the end of the series. Thanks for making me spoil it, but like George Washington, I cannot tell a fib."

Keep believing his denials kiddos. Just because he says it don't mean it's not true.. ie "We couldn't get Bruce Wayne due to the new Batman movie" but here is Adam Knight instead who we will NEVER call Bruce Wayne on the show. (maybe, but likely)

Like I said 34 pages ago. Oldest trick in the book. Telling someone they are cousins is old school (see Supergirl the movie....or better yet DON'T)

[spiderman_2k]

Yes my mistake, in the main Mythology Clark clark played football, he scored 10 Touchdowns in the championship game, but stop playing once he found out the truth of his origins

[Kobolos]

Actually I was referring to Baadshah's "Clark using his powers for sports" thing....

And that's a fine fine avatar Spidey...don't ever change.

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah im just saying that he did actually use his powers for Sports.

Oh and thanks LOL, I love it too.

[Alien]

Smallville: 1961 was on last night and I thought it was really good. I want that medallion! I liked the idea that the Kents were chosen but how come Clark just wondered up to them and saved them when they first found him? Plus Jor-El was kinda evil to the Kents when Kal-El left them.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Im not saying a Lois isn't Chloes cousin, but she could easily take that name as a pen name.

:D
what do u mean. Just a moment ago you said Chloe is Lois, now you are saying that she would have a cousin named Lois, but use the cousin's name as a pen name. That is so dumb. It's like saying that Chloe doesn't like her name. Plus, Lackey just showed proof, from the creator.
When asked if Chloe is indeed the cousin of Lois Lane, Gough reminds us of what was said at the San Diego Comic Con in 2002, so apparently the plan for that character has not been altered and they are indeed cousins.

and so far spiderman_2k, your ideas of Chloe being Lois is still lacking in credibility
There is the name, almost an Anagram of Lois Lane
There is the hard hitting Intrest in Journalism
There is the now connection to Perry White
There is the fact that she made a deal with Lionel
She has the right charisma that Lois has, put everything out of the way if a story is involved.


I think they just added her because she is similar to Lois and that she made Clark interested in Journalism

and Kobolos
your statement on:
If Beyonce can be Lois Lane in the movie why can't Allison Mack be Lois on the show?

who ever said that Beyonce is good for Lois Lane, or even possible. Still rumors. Plus, you can't compare Beyounce and Allison Mack because we won't see Beyounce in Smallville already knowing Clark. So, again.

Nobody pointed out any proof that Chloe is Lois

[Kobolos]

Originally posted by Baadshah
Nobody pointed out any proof that Chloe is Lois

And what have you proven that she isn't going to be the "Lois Lane" we all know and love? Nothing. Just your opinion. I think there is alot more evidence that she will be rather than won't be.

When I (and others) came up with this months ago it was cast off by Gough and people believe him tot he letter? Why? All he is saying is "She has a cousin named Lois" We aren't questioning that...we are merely pointing out that her cousin may not be the Lois that ends up at the Planet. Chloe might.

As for Alfred G., in the words of Alexander Knox

"that's not a denial."

[Baadshah]

Chloe saying that she has a cousin named Lois Lane is pure evidence that Chloe is not Lois Lane. I don't know how far you want to get to get more evidence, but in the show "Delete", we see that Chloe is not Lois Lane. Actually, i'm just going to say spoilers now, UK folks or not.

Max, a reporter of the Daily Planet, is the only person that Chloe told about Lois Lane. She wanted to use her name for the stories about Sommerhold because Chloe has enemies in high places, for example Lionel. So she couldn't use her name, or she will be revealed. Max died in the show before even releasing the stories. the only person that knew about Lois Lane died, so Chloe has no reason to use Lois's name because it's not necessary anymore because Max died.

Chloe is not Lois because she has no resemblence or personality. The only thing that we could compare Chloe to Lois is the journalism. We could also say that Chloe and Lois has the same interest in Journalism because they are cousins, family trait.

I doubt Chloe would use Lois's name for her future articles, knowing that she has a cousin named Lois Lane. Who wouldn't want to use their own name for the articles? Anywayz, Chloe was afraid of being exposed so that is why she used the name Lois Lane. If you say that Chloe will use the name Lois Lane in the future Daily Planet, thus becoming Lois Lane, doesn't mean she will won't be exposed to her enemies like Lionel. She would have to change the name, but she can't change her appearence.

And again, Smallville isn't changing the mythos that much, especially since there aren't enough Smallville stories for people to be familiarized with, that is why Smallville is becoming a hugh successful series, because it's new and never been seen before. The only hugh change that i see is Lex. But how much do we know of Lex's past? The series is just being creative, that's all, it won't be crazy enough to making Chloe as Lois Lane. It wouldn't make since because it's changing a person from one character to another.

Comics, movies, Tv series showed Lois Lane meeting Clark at the Daily Planet for the first time. that is where their attraction began, not in Smallville. That is also where we see her making fun of Clark being a country boy and all. And yes, you could say that Smallville is changing the mythos, but not to the extent of changing a character like Chloe to Lois, it's not right and wouldn't make since.

[Kobolos]

That is also when Smallville was in Kansas and Metropolis was half the country away. It was a big thing that Clark went there...Now it's only three hours and people go to Smallville and Metropolis all the time.

Chloe has already used Lois as a penname. Months ago people would have called me crazy if I had suggested she would.

No one knows what the creators has planned for Chloe. Lionel is not one to let things pass easily and I fear Miss Sullivan is in for alot of changes.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
:D
what do u mean. Just a moment ago you said Chloe is Lois, now you are saying that she would have a cousin named Lois, but use the cousin's name as a pen name. That is so dumb. It's like saying that Chloe doesn't like her name. Plus, Lackey just showed proof, from the creator.
When asked if Chloe is indeed the cousin of Lois Lane, Gough reminds us of what was said at the San Diego Comic Con in 2002, so apparently the plan for that character has not been altered and they are indeed cousins.

and so far spiderman_2k, your ideas of Chloe being Lois is still lacking in credibility
There is the name, almost an Anagram of Lois Lane
There is the hard hitting Intrest in Journalism
There is the now connection to Perry White
There is the fact that she made a deal with Lionel
She has the right charisma that Lois has, put everything out of the way if a story is involved.


I think they just added her because she is similar to Lois and that she made Clark interested in Journalism

and Kobolos
your statement on:
If Beyonce can be Lois Lane in the movie why can't Allison Mack be Lois on the show?

who ever said that Beyonce is good for Lois Lane, or even possible. Still rumors. Plus, you can't compare Beyounce and Allison Mack because we won't see Beyounce in Smallville already knowing Clark. So, again.

Nobody pointed out any proof that Chloe is Lois

Yes I am saying Chloe Could be Lois, and that she uses that name as a pen name, you dont know what will happen between now and the time Lois begins writing for the Planet, Like I said Maybe Chloe will be disgraced or something, Maybe Lionel or Lex wont allow the name Chloe Sullivan to be on the Daily Planey, maybe they fuel rumours about her or something, she she takes a new name.

And please show me where my ideas are lacking in credability, they are a lot better than your "They meet In Metropolis End Of Story" attitude you are having.

[Baadshah]

ok, let's go one by one
There is the name, almost an Anagram of Lois Lane
nothing, special, since there are 3 extra letters.

There is the hard hitting Intrest in Journalism
probably a family trait, maybe Pete is Lois

There is the now connection to Perry White
What connection? Between Perry and Chloe? Chloe is interested in Journalism, so she might have read about him. Again, nothing special.

There is the fact that she made a deal with Lionel
And that makes her Lois because...

She has the right charisma that Lois has, put everything out of the way if a story is involved.
confusing second part of the statement. The right charisma, yes, but not the right attitude. Lois is a tough lady, she doesn't cry every time like Chloe

[spiderman_2k]

Okay and now I will go through them fully.

There is the name, almost an Anagram of Lois Lane
I disagree, IMO they could have named her anything, It seems to fit that only 3 letters are left over after making Lois Lane (Note the 2 L's also)

There is the hard hitting Intrest in Journalism
I thought The cousin Lois was no interested in Journalism....To be as good as Lois is now would have taken practice, Clark becomes great because he has done it before on the Torch...Chloe has also

There is the now connection to Perry White
He will remeber her as the reporter from Smallville, maybe recognise that she had talent, Much easier to believe then he hired Lois who had no interest in Journalism (Keep in mind she would be in College by now) and no experience.

There is the fact that she made a deal with Lionel
As I have said numerous times now, maybe this deal will come back to haunt her, forcing her to take a pen-name when writing under the Planet.

She has the right charisma that Lois has, put everything out of the way if a story is involved.
Chloe is growing as a character, the change has been obvious over the last 2 seasons, If she continues to grow and be affected by Smallville, she will be tough.

[Baadshah]

you know, Chloe did indeed say that Lois wasn't interested in Journalism, but have you ever thought that maybe she said that because she wanted Max to accept the pen name. Plus, Chloe is in High School people, Lois probably has natural talent and hasn't discovered it yet that she has the talent. Who knows? What we know is that Chloe is Lois's cousin. I like the idea that she is the cousin, now we have a link between Clark and Lois, which is Chloe.

And spiderman_2k, you said that because of Lionel's threat against Chloe that she will be forced to have another penname, but that doesn't change anything. Changing the name doesn't change the face of the character. It's like Superman puts on glasses and becomes Clark and nobody can't tell that Clark is Superman; and Chloe changes the name to Lois Lane and nobody can't tell that she is still Chloe, silly.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
you know, Chloe did indeed say that Lois wasn't interested in Journalism, but have you ever thought that maybe she said that because she wanted Max to accept the pen name. Plus, Chloe is in High School people, Lois probably has natural talent and hasn't discovered it yet that she has the talent. Who knows? What we know is that Chloe is Lois's cousin. I like the idea that she is the cousin, now we have a link between Clark and Lois, which is Chloe.

And spiderman_2k, you said that because of Lionel's threat against Chloe that she will be forced to have another penname, but that doesn't change anything. Changing the name doesn't change the face of the character. It's like Superman puts on glasses and becomes Clark and nobody can't tell that Clark is Superman; and Chloe changes the name to Lois Lane and nobody can't tell that she is still Chloe, silly.

Chloe being a "link" wont be used as we will never see Lois, unless of course you want her to come to Smallville, where she will meet Clark, totally going against everything you have said about it being true to mythology.

I never said that she would be forced to...Once again this is all ideas, so stop making it sound as it im saying all this is going to happen, and yes I believe it is a possibility, My idea (as all these things have been) Is that Lex is going to kill Lionel before Smallville ends (thus completing his turn to evil) but not before Lionel tarnishes the name of Chloe (something bad might happen between them) so Chloe is forced to take another pen name.
Plus she may have to die her hair at some point (we saw echoes of this in the episode where she got bit by the bug). Or maybe she just doesn't find the name Chloe Sullivan too glamourours, maybe her father is something to do with a name change, there are so many possibilites that could play out yet,

[Klimber]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Okay and now I will go through them fully.

There is the hard hitting Intrest in Journalism
I thought The cousin Lois was no interested in Journalism....To be as good as Lois is now would have taken practice, Clark becomes great because he has done it before on the Torch...Chloe has also


She has the right charisma that Lois has, put everything out of the way if a story is involved.
Chloe is growing as a character, the change has been obvious over the last 2 seasons, If she continues to grow and be affected by Smallville, she will be tough.

You are correct Spidey, Chloe says that her cousin has NO intrest in jouranalism. Beside what does it matter if Chloe can not change her apperance using a pen name solves that. She can write the column freelance and mail in the stories. All Lionel would have to go by is a post mark to track her. Tell me BAAD can you give a physical description of the author Richard Bachman from the back cover of one of his books to enough detail that I could pick him out of a Police lineup? No, primarily because the picture on the book jacket is the real picture of the author...and I can pick Stephen King who sometimes uses the pen name Richard Bachman ( I am completely sure this not from being ashamed of his own name) out of a crowd of 1000 people. So please tell me that in the back of your mind the possibility could exist that Chloe could use the name of her not interested in journalism cousin to continue writing at the Daily Planet after being black balled by Lionel Luther.

Also sure Lois is in your words a "tough lady" and Chloe has cried now and again. Maybe just Maybe when Chloe is older she will be battle harded to become the Lois you are thinking of.

Oh and BAAD, nice try with the whole END OF DISCUSSION bit that made me laugh, like living with my parents again or something.
:p

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Chloe being a "link" wont be used as we will never see Lois, unless of course you want her to come to Smallville, where she will meet Clark, totally going against everything you have said about it being true to mythology.

I never said that she would be forced to...Once again this is all ideas, so stop making it sound as it im saying all this is going to happen, and yes I believe it is a possibility, My idea (as all these things have been) Is that Lex is going to kill Lionel before Smallville ends (thus completing his turn to evil) but not before Lionel tarnishes the name of Chloe (something bad might happen between them) so Chloe is forced to take another pen name.
Plus she may have to die her hair at some point (we saw echoes of this in the episode where she got bit by the bug). Or maybe she just doesn't find the name Chloe Sullivan too glamourours, maybe her father is something to do with a name change, there are so many possibilites that could play out yet,

:applaud:
even more dumb to Change Chloe to Lois is for her to dye her hair. So Lois is actually a natural blond, nice :D
And Lois showing up in Smallville, not going to happen. If they do, they should make it in a way where Clark never meets Lois, or even hear her name. I think we will see her story in Metropolis, a story that is connected to Chloe. Probably Lois will write Chloe's obituary or something :(

[spiderman_2k]

As you can see I said "May" have to dye her hair...Jeez cant you take that people have theorys, I know you dont have many ideas of your own, but you are happy to blast people for having there own...How sad.

And Yes Klimber I agree with you

[Klimber]

Originally posted by Baadshah
:applaud:
even more dumb to Change Chloe to Lois is for her to dye her hair. So Lois is actually a natural blond, nice :D
And Lois showing up in Smallville, not going to happen. If they do, they should make it in a way where Clark never meets Lois, or even hear her name. I think we will see her story in Metropolis, a story that is connected to Chloe. Probably Lois will write Chloe's obituary or something :(

Unless Chloe's cousin never gets in to writing because she is not interested in Jouralism and never works for the Daily Planet again because she is not interested in journalism so she never meets Clark at all.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Klimber
You are correct Spidey, Chloe says that her cousin has NO intrest in jouranalism. Beside what does it matter if Chloe can not change her apperance using a pen name solves that. She can write the column freelance and mail in the stories. All Lionel would have to go by is a post mark to track her. Tell me BAAD can you give a physical description of the author Richard Bachman from the back cover of one of his books to enough detail that I could pick him out of a Police lineup? No, primarily because the picture on the book jacket is the real picture of the author...and I can pick Stephen King who sometimes uses the pen name Richard Bachman ( I am completely sure this not from being ashamed of his own name) out of a crowd of 1000 people. So please tell me that in the back of your mind the possibility could exist that Chloe could use the name of her not interested in journalism cousin to continue writing at the Daily Planet after being black balled by Lionel Luther.

Also sure Lois is in your words a "tough lady" and Chloe has cried now and again. Maybe just Maybe when Chloe is older she will be battle harded to become the Lois you are thinking of.

Oh and BAAD, nice try with the whole END OF DISCUSSION bit that made me laugh, like living with my parents again or something.
:p

END OF DISCUSSION :D
i was being funny there. But ya, literally there isn't much to talk about because Chloe already mentioned Lois Lane is her cousin.

So please tell me that in the back of your mind the possibility could exist that Chloe could use the name of her not interested in journalism cousin to continue writing at the Daily Planet after being black balled by Lionel Luther.
let me see here, your saying that she will write for the Daily Planet under the name Lois Lane, but the guy who Chloe asked to use the name died. So not a possiblity. Plus, what, she is going to use the name until Lionel dies???????? Especially the kind of stories that Chloe has, you know that she will be tracked. Again not a possiblity.

END OF DISCUSSION:applaud:

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
As you can see I said "May" have to dye her hair...Jeez cant you take that people have theorys, I know you dont have many ideas of your own, but you are happy to blast people for having there own...How sad.

And Yes Klimber I agree with you

oh spiderman spiderman, what should we do with you ? :rolleyes:
were going through these discussions when we got a confirmation from the creater of the show, and another confirmation from Chloe, what more do u need? :rolleyes:

oh, and yes, I agree with you also Klimber that Chloe did say the Lois Lane has no interest JOURNALISM. That doesn't mean anything.

[spiderman_2k]

We have had confirmation that Lois is Chloes cousin, now you must be really stupid, because that is not in question ,what is in question is whether Chloe will become The Lois we know from the comics...
And the fact that she is in college and has no intrest in Journalism is very important, by the time you reach college you are supposed to be studying something you are good at...If Lois isn't studying Journalism then It is unlikey that she could rise to beome one of the greatest Journalists in the world

[Baadshah]

greatest journalists in the world, wow, that is over stretching it. And there is only one THE Lois, and that is not Chloe. And Lois is not in College yet ok, Lois is not older than Clark, you could assume that probably Lois is younger than Chloe, so maybe she is middle school. It would make since, 2 or 3 years difference

[spiderman_2k]

I said "one of the" and she is, she is world famous, especially after writing the obituary for Superman after his battle with Doomsday, You really have to learn to read the whole thing I say instead of just bits and pieces.
And Lois is older than Clark the age thing is bought up in an Episode of The New Adventures Of Superman when it is announced that Clark once he hits a certain age will begin ageing slower than humans

[Baadshah]

i mean school wise. And again, i'm going to say that we don't what's going to happen. From what we know for sure is that Chloe is not Lois Lane.
END OF DISCUSSION
fin

[spiderman_2k]

She is about 2 years older than him If I remeber correctly, Which would fit with Chloe, as they cant make that character older as she would have been out of school by this series, so If she does turn out to be Lois, then they have bought her age down to make it fit better (They are doing this alot with Smallville)

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
i mean school wise. And again, i'm going to say that we don't what's going to happen. From what we know for sure is that Chloe is not Lois Lane.
END OF DISCUSSION
fin

How do we know for sure?
Because you say so...Sorry it doesn't work that way.
And if a person is older then they are older school wise.

[Klimber]

Originally posted by Baadshah
greatest journalists in the world, wow, that is over stretching it. And there is only one THE Lois, and that is not Chloe. And Lois is not in College yet ok, Lois is not older than Clark, you could assume that probably Lois is younger than Chloe, so maybe she is middle school. It would make since, 2 or 3 years difference

Where would you get the 2 year difference from? In the movie Lois as a small girl saw the young Clark Kent running past the train but there was more than a 2 year difference in them more like 5 to 7 years. Also none of that matters in the Smallville universe. They can make Chloe's cousin (AKA the non Daily Planet future writer Lois Lane) any age they feel like. As long as the stay in the spirit of the Superman story line, they can bend most rules in common Superman mythos. I see it much like the 80's movie Clash of the Titans which my high school english teacher termed as "Myth Stew". Based in spirit but nowhere near in fact. So...
Smallville = Superman Stew

[spiderman_2k]

Are they following the comics or the movies when it comes to the age thing do you think Klimber?

[Klimber]

I think they are making it up as they go along.

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah that would make more sense, thats what I like about Smallville, sort of carving it's own timeline out of the Story as a whole.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
How do we know for sure?
Because you say so...Sorry it doesn't work that way.
And if a person is older then they are older school wise.

ok, again, the creater and Chloe said it themselves. what more do u what man????????

and who says Lois is older than Clark. I mean, if Lois is older, than doesn't that go against everything that you said about Chloe being Lois?

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Yeah that would make more sense, thats what I like about Smallville, sort of carving it's own timeline out of the Story as a whole.

yes, and it would go against what the Smallville series is if we make Chloe as Lois

[spiderman_2k]

Baadshah clearly you dont understand anything...Here it is in simple (simple enough for you I hope) points.

Yes, Lois is Chloes cousin, but how do we know we ever meet that Lois? Maybe Chloe uses her name to write for the Planet.


And no It doesn't as I have said, Smallville is creating its own timeline and series of events, It wont change a thing as so much has been changed already, changing the age of a character is not a major thing.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
yes, and it would go against what the Smallville series is if we make Chloe as Lois

How?
Thats the whole point, Smallville is seperating itself from any previous Mythology, Making Chloe, Lois will just be another way of it being it's own thing in its own little universe and timeline (Much like the otherworld series's of comics)

[Baadshah]

do u really think that Chloe would establish her fame and writing skill and credit her work under her cousin's name????
i mean come on, where is the common sense. Chloe only asked to use the name in the show "Delete" so she could expose Sommerhold without getting herself in trouble than she already is. And, it was also to establish that she has a cousin which is THE LOIS LANE

[Klimber]

Originally posted by Baadshah
ok, again, the creater and Chloe said it themselves. what more do u what man????????

and who says Lois is older than Clark. I mean, if Lois is older, than doesn't that go against everything that you said about Chloe being Lois?

No, no, no The cousin of Chloe, Lois Lane (The non future Daily Planet writer) is older than Clark and Chloe for that matter. Jees Whos on first, Whats on second...Now for the cheap seats

IMO
Chloe = Lois Lane at Daily Planet via pen name
Cousin Lois Lane = older non writer for the Daily Planet

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Klimber
No, no, no The cousin of Chloe, Lois Lane (The non future Daily Planet writer) is older than Clark and Chloe for that matter. Jees Whos on first, Whats on second...Now for the cheap seats

IMO
Chloe = Lois Lane at Daily Planet via pen name
Cousin Lois Lane = older non writer for the Daily Planet

:lol: , you guys crack me up :applaud:

[spiderman_2k]

Show evidence against everything we have said then...This evidence has to be contained within Smallville mythology, as is all our evidence

[Baadshah]

Smallville mythology? I gave u evidence, i'm not going to repeat myself

[spiderman_2k]

No you didn't, all you have been saying is that Chloe and The Writers have said Lois is Chloes cousin....I believe that is true, but I dont believe that the cousin is the lois we will know in the future....

Now some evidence from Smallville please.

[Baadshah]

that Lois Lane never lived in Smallville or even knew about Clark until the daily Planet and that she and Lana never had to compete over Clark, ain't that proof enough? So far, your evidence was the spelling of Chloe's name, not really helping your case here

[spiderman_2k]

I said that is in Smallville mythology...
That is general Superman Mythology and unknown in Smallville at this time...So once again, Proof from the Smallville mythology please.

[Baadshah]

????????????
Are you kidding or being series. Than you tell me where is this Smallville Mythology. Do you even know what Mythology mean. there is none, only Supeerman Mythology. the Smallville series is new to the audience.

Why don't you give me proof of Chloe being Lois, and don't even try to give an excuse on the spelling of the name, that is not exactly a mythos

[spiderman_2k]

There is a Smallville Mythology, after 3 seaons and numerous, Plot Twists, Deaths, Stories and Powers Gained, Smallville is now its own contained Mythology...During season 1 yes it was new, now it is not.

Why cant the spelling be looked upon as evidence, LL is very prominent in everything Superman (Including Smallville) Chloe has 3 L's in her name (plent enough for Lois Lane) plus the fact that there only being 3 letters left seems pretty strange.

Chloe is a reporter she has been Interested in Journalism for a long time now (At least 5 years )

Lois is not interested in Journalism at the time.

She has already once used the Pen Name--Lois Lane in Smallville

She has a love for Clark, Just as Lois (who we will never meet, or meet in the way that she can love Clark) loves Clark.

They are all pretty strong points..
Especially the one about Journalism.

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
There is a Smallville Mythology, after 3 seaons and numerous, Plot Twists, Deaths, Stories and Powers Gained, Smallville is now its own contained Mythology...During season 1 yes it was new, now it is not.

Why cant the spelling be looked upon as evidence, LL is very prominent in everything Superman (Including Smallville) Chloe has 3 L's in her name (plent enough for Lois Lane) plus the fact that there only being 3 letters left seems pretty strange.

Chloe is a reporter she has been Interested in Journalism for a long time now (At least 5 years )

Lois is not interested in Journalism at the time.

She has already once used the Pen Name--Lois Lane in Smallville

She has a love for Clark, Just as Lois (who we will never meet, or meet in the way that she can love Clark) loves Clark.

They are all pretty strong points..
Especially the one about Journalism.

Why cant the spelling be looked upon as evidence, LL is very prominent in everything Superman (Including Smallville) Chloe has 3 L's in her name (plent enough for Lois Lane) plus the fact that there only being 3 letters left seems pretty strange.
so what does the extra "L" stand for? That doesn't mean much, and there is more than 3 letters left, I think it's five letters left, that is plenty enough to spell Lois Lane how. It's only 8 letters. And the word "Sullivan" has many letters to choose from. Nothing special here. this is old news

Chloe is a reporter she has been Interested in Journalism for a long time now (At least 5 years )

Lois is not interested in Journalism at the time.
doesn't mean much. It just mean they both talents. We know what Chloe's are, and Lois's are still growing.

She has already once used the Pen Name--Lois Lane in Smallville
no she hasn't :rolleyes:

She has a love for Clark, Just as Lois (who we will never meet, or meet in the way that she can love Clark) loves Clark.
????, ok, let's see here. So far, Chloe likes Clark, but so does Lana, maybe Lane is Lois because their both first and last names start with 'L'

They are all pretty strong points..
Especially the one about Journalism
yes, because Chloe is interested in Journalism, that makes her Lois :rolleyes:

all you said here are known facts. But the fact of the matter is the Creator of Smallville, Alfred Gough, already debunked the Chloe = Lois theory. So, keep on bringing your ideas along, doesn't change the matter that Chloe isn't Lois

I already gave you proof here. All your saying is that there are 2 Lois Lanes, one the cousin, and the other as Chloe's aka. High unlikely

[spiderman_2k]

Well 3 or 5 letters makes no difference the point is her name is written the way it is, and it conveniatley contains the name Lois Lane.

No, Lois shows no Intrest in Journalism, She is in College (It has been said I will find the link in a second) when in college she would know she was good at a certain thing by then.

I was under the impression she used the name Lois Lane on an artice or somethig to that extent.

No Lana and Clark always knew each other in Smallville, after Smallville (Wandering into Supes Mythology now) we know what happends to Lana, she marrys pete (Who is the vice President Of America) it has always been his destiny to meet up with Lois, he has thing thing that Kyla had for him that he will give to his true love or something like that...My idea is that might be Chloe once Clark gets to Metroplis with her and Lana is out of his life.

It certainly helps that case that she could be Lois, Let me think, someone in College who has no intrest in Journalism, or someone in High School who has been a journalost for years and does little jobs for the Daily Planet on the side (all this before college) which one would seem to be more like Lois...:rolleyes:

And no, Gough has only said that Lois is Chloes cousin, he has not said anything about Chloe being Lois in the future, so thats crap.

Why is it unlikely?
There are pretty much 2 Clarks running around in Superman...The Mild Mannered reporter we all know from Smallville, and the Superhero, they are dual identies but are effective, if we never see the real Lois, there is no problem

[Baadshah]

i think the creator means THEE lois lane alright. And ya, give me that article that states that Lois is in college while Clark and Chloe is in high school, plz, i love it hear your excuse. The spelling of her name has nothing to do with anything. the name Lois Lane is small and simple, that is 8 letters compared to 13 letters in the Chloe's name. No theory there because none have been established. You can keep on talking and bring ur ideas on Chloe being Lois :rolleyes:, i gave you suffient proof, all u gave me was speculation.

[Klimber]

Originally posted by Baadshah
i think the creator means THEE lois lane alright. And ya, give me that article that states that Lois is in college while Clark and Chloe is in high school, plz, i love it hear your excuse. The spelling of her name has nothing to do with anything. the name Lois Lane is small and simple, that is 8 letters compared to 13 letters in the Chloe's name. No theory there because none have been established. You can keep on talking and bring ur ideas on Chloe being Lois :rolleyes:, i gave you suffient proof, all u gave me was speculation.

I like to think of it as a fan's open mindedness...Spidey has been giving great instances but all you done is blast them, BAAD, and at the same given very weak evidence in your own agrument. What fun would if Gough dropped the bomb on every plot twist. Jeez this board would be a really boring place. One other thing why do you keep saying THE LOIS LANE? Don't you mean to say Chloe AKA Lois Lane. :p

[spiderman_2k]

Or Chlois as some of the people on Kryptonsite.com have taken to calling her...;)

[spiderman_2k]

And it is impossible to try and be reasonable to someone who doesn't seem to understand reason...(Referring to this thread and to the thread before the Matrix Board was closed down)

[BlakeAE77]

Wow, I just got the biggest headache reading everything that you guys have been posting. Where to begin? The bottom line is anything is possible on Smallville. They are constantly rewriting the Superman story, and to say that Lois and Clark won't meet each other until Metropolis (end of discussion) is very close minded. I'm not saying it's not true, maybe Clark will go off to college and meet Lois there. Al Gough now says that unless the show gets canceled, there will be college years and that some will end up in Metropolis. Now, in my opinion, there's a possibly that Chloe will end up being the reporter for the Daily Planet. And too say that it's silly for Chloe to use the pen name of Lois Lane is irrelevant because it's already been done. And Yes Al Gough says that Chloe and Lois are indeed cousins. That doesn't mean that Chloe can't use the pen name to write for the Planet. Do you really think Al Gough is going to spoil what could be the biggest spoiler in Smallville history? No. But whether or not the Chlois rumors are true will be revealed sooner or later.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by BlakeAE77
Wow, I just got the biggest headache reading everything that you guys have been posting. Where to begin? The bottom line is anything is possible on Smallville. They are constantly rewriting the Superman story, and to say that Lois and Clark won't meet each other until Metropolis (end of discussion) is very close minded. I'm not saying it's not true, maybe Clark will go off to college and meet Lois there. Al Gough now says that unless the show gets canceled, there will be college years and that some will end up in Metropolis. Now, in my opinion, there's a possibly that Chloe will end up being the reporter for the Daily Planet. And too say that it's silly for Chloe to use the pen name of Lois Lane is irrelevant because it's already been done. And Yes Al Gough says that Chloe and Lois are indeed cousins. That doesn't mean that Chloe can't use the pen name to write for the Planet. Do you really think Al Gough is going to spoil what could be the biggest spoiler in Smallville history? No. But whether or not the Chlois rumors are true will be revealed sooner or later.

Exactly, thats pretty much the whole thing summed up....

[Klimber]

BONK BONK BONK (Stops banging head on wall)
What wait another voice of reason on the board other than Spidey and myself. Thank goodness. There is just no use argueing with fool, they just bring you down to to their level and beat you with experience.

[Lackey]

Wow, this is still going on???

I don't think there's any point in arguing about it...

bottom line is it would suck big time if Chloe was Lois Lane...and so the writers wouldn't make such a sucky decision.

All we can do is wait and see how it turns out... and then I can say I told you so. :)

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Lackey
Wow, this is still going on???

I don't think there's any point in arguing about it...

bottom line is it would suck big time if Chloe was Lois Lane...and so the writers wouldn't make such a sucky decision.

All we can do is wait and see how it turns out... and then I can say I told you so. :)

finally, i thought i was alone here against three people with only speculations and no proof. And Blake, where did Chloe use the pen name of Lois Lane?

[Baadshah]

DTS: Well another question here before we have to leave. Fans have recently found out in "Delete" that there is link between Chloe and Lois Lane, that Lois Lane is Chloe's cousin, however it has left some fans wondering if Chloe is actually the future Lois Lane?

AG: (laughs) Lois Lane is her cousin. (laughs) Well I have been saying this for two years now. It is true, Lois Lane is Chloe's cousin. Chloe doesn't morph into Lois.

DTS: Well I think it is just that a lot of the fans see Lois in Chloe and believe that perhaps she would one day be Lois Lane.

AG: Well exactly but again that is one of her functions on the show and certainly that is why Clark is drawn to her because she has certain similarities of the woman that he will ultimately end up with.

DTS: So I guess then the both of the two girls are a mix of Lois Lane, his ultimate love of his life?

AG: Oh yeah, I think so. Absolutely. There is Lana who we know he doesn't end up with and then there is Chloe who he doesn't end up with neither, but how each of these girls touched his life and effected what type of women he would ultimately end up with.

END OF DISCUSSION

[Radiohead]

good. now people can shut the **** up about this stupid "chloe is lois lane" bull****.

[spiderman_2k]

At least we are willing to have ideas and not just watch it.

And to a certain degree we are right, she may not turn into Lois, but everything Ii have said about her being similar is right then

[Tony Montana]

Am I the only one who cant wait for Clark to learn how to fly?

[spiderman_2k]

He wont in Smallville, at least not until the very end

[Tony Montana]

I knew that, but that still buggers me...

Not as much as him acting gay and this endless BS between him and Lana...

But show is great!

Lex is the highlight...

[spiderman_2k]

Yes, Lex is defintely the best character on the show.

[Tony Montana]

Have you already downloaded the newest episodes?

[spiderman_2k]

No, I could If I wanted too...But I prefer to wait and see them when they are shown on TV...I roughly know whats going to happen to Lex and it sounds like Michael will have to show some great acting skills to be able to pull some of it off...

[Tony Montana]

He will... :D

[Kobolos]

Originally posted by Baadshah
END OF DISCUSSION [/B]

You know I loathe nothing more than those three words. Then stop discussing it and realize Alfred Gough could tell you the sky is blue and turn it green because it was affected suddenly by those damn meteor rocks...

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Kobolos
You know I loathe nothing more than those three words. Then stop discussing it and realize Alfred Gough could tell you the sky is blue and turn it green because it was affected suddenly by those damn meteor rocks...

i'm just joking. For so long, about 3 pages i think, people were arguing with me about Lois Lane, even when i showed them proof, they wouldn't shut up. All they were doing was listing Chloe's traits are similar to Lois Lane's, like we didn't know that already :rolleyes:

[spiderman_2k]

You actually only just showed proof...Until then you only gave thw quote saying Chloe had a Cousin named Lois, no proof there at all, so dont make **** up.
And clearly you did not know they had similar traits as everytime we said them, you tried to disprove them, only after reading that article are you accepting that they are very similar.

[Baadshah]

there was proof that Chloe was Lois's cousin. We heard it before and got them from Chloe herself. So don't make up stuff ok, go back through the pages and you will see. I already knew that Chloe had similar traits as Lois Lane, it's like it's not necessary to be mentioned, it's already known. Just because u said them doesn't mean it's new and orginal :rolleyes: . I never debunked the fact that they were similar, i was debunking that Chloe was Lois, so shut your trap

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by Lackey
found this at that site

Al Gough Talks To KryptonSite
Incredibly busy executive producer Alfred Gough recently took the time to chat with KryptonSite a bit about the third season so far, and what is coming up with the show. Be warned, there may be some spoilery details below:

Gough tells us that the April 14 episode, "Legacy," will find Dr. Swann confronting Clark about his careless actions of the past few months, such as pushing people away and being careless. Gough also promises a clash of titans as we see Dr. Swann come into contact with Lionel Luthor. The consequences of Jonathan Kent's proverbial "deal with the devil" - the deal he made with Jor-El to bring back his son - will also come into play. It sounds as though the door is open for future appearances by Dr. Swann, and more firmly places Christopher Reeve's character into the Smallville universe.

Gough thinks that fans will be pleased with the Season 2 DVD set, which will have many of the features they had been hoping to have all along. Not only will it have commentaries from himself and Miles Millar, but fans can look forward to commentary from the actors as well as directors James Marshall and Greg Beeman. The DVD will also include the first series of "Chloe Chronicles" webisodes, for which Gough says there will be a sequel in the future.

When asked if Chloe is indeed the cousin of Lois Lane, Gough reminds us of what was said at the San Diego Comic Con in 2002, so apparently the plan for that character has not been altered and they are indeed cousins. Another question about comic book characters once planned involved Krypto. Gough reveals that at one point it was considered to incorporate Krypto into "Whisper," but it just seemed to be too much for the episode. Some more DC Universe characters, particularly from the Superman area of the DCU, may show up in the future, but they'll probably have to wait for Season Four. Likewise, there's potential for a return story for the popular Sheriff Ethan that may show up in the show's fourth year. Characters like Ethan as well as Dominic, Lionel Luthor's former lackey, still exist in the Smallville universe and they will certainly be used if and when time permits.

On the subject of speculation, we also asked Al Gough what he thinks of all of the speculation surrounding the Adam character from recent episodes. "I think it's great. I will set the record straight, and say he's not Bruce Wayne, or Batman, unfortunately, but he's definitely a dark and mysterious stranger who's come into Smallville, and I think you'll see over the next four episodes he really shakes it up.," Gough said. He added that they've always wanted to incorporate the character of Bruce Wayne into the series at some point, but that would likely be vetoed because of the Chris Nolan/David Goyer "Batman: Intimidation" film that is coming up. Superman-related guests are much more likely.

A story involving young Lex and his mother is planned for the 19th episode of Season Three, which will be directed by Miles Millar. In other directing news, Episode 20 will be directed by series star John Schneider, who has already been doing some second unit work for the show.

Finally, we asked if the show will follow the cast of characters to college once the high school time is over, and we received this reply. "God willing that the show is still on the air, yes. Some will be going to Smallville, some to Metropolis."

Gough seems enthused and very appreciative that the show has maintained the following it has, and appreciates the hard work of the crew up in Vancouver, who consistently put out a good product.

Thanks very much as always from us to Al Gough for his time.


here is your proof spiderman_2k, don't do this again of accusing people that there was no proof. this was the proof that i was describing a few pages back until i found the recent article

[spiderman_2k]

Yes I know Chloe said she had a cousin, but you never showed proof from anyone saying that Chloe would never become Lois, And dont say you did, because you didn't.
And dont tell me to "shut my trap" everything I have said is true, We were right about all our points, which you did try to disprove, they are very similar characters and it's obvious that alot more fans believed that Chloe could be Lois.
Anything we have said that trys to say that Chloe is Lois, is one of our points, if you are trying to disprove that, then in esscene you are trying to disprove the incredible similarity of the characters.

[Baadshah]

disprove of what? you got some issues dude. You were wrong about Chloe being Lois, and now your trying to cover up for it. I feel sorry for you, just give up

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
here is your proof spiderman_2k, don't do this again of accusing people that there was no proof. this was the proof that i was describing a few pages back until i found the recent article

You are incredibly similar to Jpdill when it comes to your problem of not being able to read properly.
That quote indeed says they are cousins, that was never in dispute, we have known for a very long time they are cousins, now I suggest you go back about 7 pages and read this whole thread again, maybe then you can actually understand what we are saying, because I really dont think you actually get it.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by Baadshah
disprove of what? you got some issues dude. You were wrong about Chloe being Lois, and now your trying to cover up for it. I feel sorry for you, just give up


No, I have accepted that I am wrong, but I never said it was actually going to happen, It was just a theory, same as you had "theorys" in the Spider-Man thread.
And as I have said read back and read your own posts aswell, as you dont seem to actually get anything

[Baadshah]

what you were saying that Alfred Gough wasn't talking about THE Lois Lane :rolleyes: and was talking about the cousin who wasn't the THE Lois Lane, but just some girl with the same name. Give up, just admit you were wrong dude, don't cry about it

[Baadshah]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
No, I have accepted that I am wrong, but I never said it was actually going to happen, It was just a theory, same as you had "theorys" in the Spider-Man thread.
And as I have said read back and read your own posts aswell, as you dont seem to actually get anything

ya, you accepted you were wrong, but then you come in saying that you were right about Chloe being simialr to Lois, like that was already known dude. Everybody knows that Chloe is similar to Lois, doesn't mean she is lois