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Tornado

07-27-2008, 06:14 PM

Some new stuff:

Smallville at Comic-Con: Lois and Clark to Get Closer!

Smallville fans, rejoice! Following the show's Comic-Con panel, executive producers told TVGuide.com's own Erin Fox that Lois and Clark's relationship is going to take a new direction this season. "Lois and Clark will be working side by side at The Daily Planet, and Lois will start to see Clark in a different way," they said. "She's surprised to see him in a suit, all grown up and handsome. It's no longer going to be played like a brother-sister relationship." (Video of the interview is coming soon!)
That huge news aside, the panel has to have been one of the single best hours of the four-day Comic-Con extravaganza. With a jocular cast and recurring jokes with the audience, the laughter was non-stop — and so were the spoilers. Here are the highlights:

• As reported previously, Season 8 is all about Clark's destiny as Superman. He joins the "Daily Planet" and uses his new gig as a way to find people in need. He also starts to realize that he may need a double identity to truly evolve into Superman.

To that end, exec producer Brian Peterson says that the show will hold to its original "no tights" rule, but he would not comment on the "no flights" restriction.

• Behind-the-scenes changes are to come, too: Comic writer Jeff Johnson will be writing an episode of the show, and Allison Mack may have just shaken on a deal to direct an episode. When pressed about her plans, Mack started off with a diplomatic answer, but one of the panelists said, "Why don't we make it official?" Kidding or not, it would be hard to back out of the public pact.

• Justin Hartley says that the Green Arrow will be struggling with why he's doing what he's doing, while the show will be exploring the origin of the Green Arrow.

• Mack's Chloe will also be doing some struggling of her own, and there's trouble in paradise ahead for her relationship with Jimmy. Mack says that Chloe will be finding some independence this season, though, and she'll maybe even have some new powers to show off — but no details on those yet!

• And as for Lana Lang's future kisses with Clark? Kristin Kreuk deftly avoided the question and titillated the audience by saying she'd like to see her kiss Chloe.

• Finally, of course, there was a long preview of scenes from the new season. With the introduction of at least two more heroes from DC Comics, the action is ratcheted up, especially as Clark starts to come into his own. In short, expect love, loss, mega-action and more of the Superman mythology to unfold.

Sounds awesome. And another tidbit:

The Legion of Super-Heroes is coming to Smallville, and the writer who's guiding the futuristic team in comic books will be the one introducing them to the show.

Geoff Johns, writer of next month's Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds mini-series for DC Comics, will also be writing the Legion's introduction to the Smallville television show. As announced Sunday at San Diego Comic-Con, Johns will be writing "Legion," the ninth episode in this year's season 8 of Smallville.

"I've known the Smallville writing team – Todd [Slavkin], Darren [Swimmer], Brian [Wayne Peterson] and Kelly [Souders] – for a long time," Johns told Newsarama. "I had an idea for an episode, so we all had lunch. And I pitched them the idea of bringing the Legion of Super-Heroes to Smallville. And we're off and running."

In comics, the Legion of Super-Heroes is a group of super-powered teenagers from 1,000 years in the future who are inspired by the legend of Superman. The Legion story, which saw the young heroes time-traveling back to visit a young Clark Kent, recently inspired a Warner Bros. animated TV series.

Smallville fans had already seen updated versions of several DC Comics heroes on the live-action show, including Green Arrow, who's become a regular character. Just last month, it was announced that a new "Doomsday" character, played by Battlestar Galactica alum Sam Witwer, will be added to the Smallville cast this season as a nemesis for actor Tom Welling's Clark Kent.

While the show's very human-looking Doomsday is apparently a re-interpretation of the monstrous comics character who once killed Superman, according to Johns, the Legion that appears in his Smallville episode will be the team that comic book readers recognize.

"I can't get into any specifics about the story we're telling because we’re still working on it all. But they're from the 31st Century. And it will be focusing on some obvious characters who first met Clark," Johns said. "It will be written to fit with Smallville, and I think it's going to be a really fun challenge to approach the Legion in a different way. But with me, you know you're going to see Legion rings, and they're going to be as true to the core as possible. It's going to be the Legion of Super-Heroes."

Johns, who just recently used Legion characters in a story he wrote for the Superman-centered series Action Comics with artist Gary Frank, couldn't confirm if the Legion characters he's introducing in Smallville would appear in more than one episode.

As Smallville fans may remember, this won't be the first time the name "Geoff Johns" is attached to the show. In Season 4, a super-powered, villainous football-playing character was named Geoff Johns. And as most comic book fans know, Johns shares offices with former Smallville writer and comic book creator Jeph Loeb, who was involved with the series during Seasons 2-4.

"Like I said, I've known the Smallville team for a long time. And I have to thank Jeph Loeb for introducing me to those people in the first place," Johns said. "I'm really looking forward to working on the show. It's exciting to see the Legion be part of that."

Also, a description from the teaser shown at Comic-Con:

The screening turned out to be a never-before sneak peak of season eight. The trailer began with, “Every journey has a beginning” and showed iconic clips from the first season of Smallville: Kal-El as a baby being launched from Krypton and Martha and Jonathan Kent finding the baby Kryptonian. “Every boy becomes a man” showcased all of Clark’s powers. “Every man will fall in love” showed clips of his star-crossed romance with Lana Lang. “Every hero discovers his destiny” showcased the creation of the Fortress of Solitude, Clark’s battle with Lex, and the introduction of Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Green Arrow, the Justice League, and the Phantom Zone. “Every hero says goodbye” showed Jonathan’s death, and Martha’s exit from the series, and Lex leaving Clark at the graveyard. Finally, “but every hero has a future…” We are introduced to Tess Mercer, see Clark getting beat up in Russia, Chloe saying she’s not special while battling to get away from an assailant. The clips teased more Justice League, Chloe and Jimmy together, and Clark and Lois together at the daily planet. We also saw Green Arrow shooting Clark. Finally, the teaser ended with a S-pendant in Clark’s hand, and a close up on Sam Witwer with a voice over saying, “There’s something out there, and whatever it is, it can kill you.”

Lots of cool stuff, I'm really looking forward to the premiere.

Tornado

07-28-2008, 09:16 PM

Rather than post everything here, I'm just going to say there are a handful of new interviews up at K-Site. They're all pretty awesome!

Season 8 can't come soon enough. I'm trying hard not to get my hopes up, but I'm genuinely excited to see what they do without Lex, without Kara, without Al and Miles, and without the no flights rule.

Neverending

07-28-2008, 09:56 PM

I'm hyped!

King_of_Skid_Row

07-28-2008, 10:09 PM

I think the lifting of the no flights rule has come way too late. If they had gotten rid of it in Season 7 or in season 6, it would've been more effective. But now with Kara, Zod, Brainiac, and even MM already flying, it's going to make the moment Clark flies less memorable. Superman should've been first to fly and be the man who made flight special. It should've been Clark trying to teach Kara about flight, not the other way round. These other characters flying kind of took the fiz out of the big moment when Clark teaches himself how to fly. When he takes off, I'm going to be like 'Too little, too late'.

Neverending

07-28-2008, 10:23 PM

Technically, Clark was the first to fly. Although he wasn't being "himself". :rolleyes:

Tornado

07-28-2008, 10:30 PM

It makes sense for Clark to be the last to fly, though. Brainiac is a computer program with the abilities of a grown-up Kryptonian, the Martian Manhunter isn't Kryptonian at all (and I'm not familiar with how his powers developed over his life), and it was said in the show that girls develop faster than boys do both on Earth and Krypton, hence why Kara flew first.

Personally, I don't think it'll lose any of its dramatic nature. The show is essentially Clark's journey, and whether or not he's the first to fly in the show, his first flight will still be a pivotal moment in his life and the show.

Neverending

07-29-2008, 12:02 AM

True, but like I said...we already technically saw him fly. I'm more excited for the Lois and Clark/Daily Planet thing than anything else.

Alien

07-29-2008, 04:43 AM

Tornado

07-29-2008, 09:04 AM

True, but like I said...we already technically saw him fly.

Yeah, but that doesn't count. ;)

Although we did see him floating in "Metamorphosis," the second episode of the series.

King_of_Skid_Row

07-29-2008, 02:44 PM

What would've been cool is that if throughout the series he privately tried to train himslf how to fly. By first learning how to float and then taught himself how to slowly move while in the air. Instead all he did was moap about Lana and did nothing. Now it's just too little too late.

Tornado

07-29-2008, 10:21 PM

It'd be out of character for him to want to learn how to fly though, as he's always hesitant toward his powers. He'll learn when he needs to.

King_of_Skid_Row

07-31-2008, 02:30 AM

After 6 seasons, you'd think he'd get over it. But no this BDA just wants to be stupid.

Neverending

08-13-2008, 01:52 AM

We're like a month away. wow. Time flies. So...any updates, trailers, etc?

DarthVader 2004

08-13-2008, 02:17 AM

I'd like to find out what happens with Kara some more and Brainac aka James Marsters.

Neverending

08-13-2008, 02:28 PM

I'd like to see the trailer already. A month will be here in a blink of an eye. Can't they ATLEAST upload it to the website?

Danny Rand

08-13-2008, 04:38 PM

I have a bad feeling they are going to jump the shark so bad this season

Dan's_Gurl

08-13-2008, 08:56 PM

I'd like to find out what happens with Kara some more and Brainac aka James Marsters.
i thought brainiac died, no? it's been a while since i watched the finale, but i could've sworn he bit the dust.

Alien

08-14-2008, 11:42 AM

i thought brainiac died, no? it's been a while since i watched the finale, but i could've sworn he bit the dust.
Brainiac can never really die, if one cell survives he can come back.

Tornado

08-14-2008, 11:56 AM

Yeah, Brainiac has been "killed" several times. He'll almost certainly be back in Season 8.

Neverending

08-14-2008, 12:15 PM

Brainiac can never really die, if one cell survives he can come back.

Yeah, Brainiac has been "killed" several times. He'll almost certainly be back in Season 8.

Exactly. Although he should stay dead till like half way through the season. Let these new villains have their moment. If they're good that is.

Dan's_Gurl

08-15-2008, 12:18 AM

oh, cool. i like James Marsters, so it'd be nice to see him come back (although i'd rather see him go back to Torchwood...). Though I think it might be a little annoying if he just keeps coming back. Like Neverending said, keep him dead for a little while.

DarthVader 2004

08-15-2008, 01:43 AM

Well Brainiac is a pretty bug villain they never explored in the movie or tv shows really. Singer should used Brainiac if he gets a superman 2.

Tornado

08-16-2008, 01:15 PM

Like Neverending said, keep him dead for a little while.

I think they should just keep him dead permanently. I like the character and I think Marsters has done a bang-up job with him, but he's just a plot device at this point. He was great in Season 5 as Clark's teacher and eventual enemy, and then showing up again at the end of the season to release Zod. But now it's like, "Well, we're not really sure where to go from here so let's just bring back Brainiac! Huzzah!"

Frankly, I'm tired of it. I'm still opposed to the idea of bringing in Doomsday (as a human, anyway), I'm slowly warming up to it, and I'm anxious to see what they do with the character. But I don't want to see Brainiac again, at least not until near the end of the season/series.

King_of_Skid_Row

08-16-2008, 10:25 PM

Yeah Brainiac was cool. But let's not takes thing to overkill.

Tornado

08-19-2008, 08:57 AM

While I don't think anybody who consistently posts in this thread really cares about spoilers, I'll tag this anyway; it's the first photo from Season 8:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/tvguideseason8.jpg

Spirited Away

08-19-2008, 10:07 AM

Very cool.

Tornado

08-19-2008, 10:18 AM

No kidding, I'm curious as to what exactly what they're doing. Why would the League be out in the middle of the day?

Alien

08-19-2008, 11:31 AM

No kidding, I'm curious as to what exactly what they're doing. Why would the League be out in the middle of the day?
It could just be a promo shot.

I wanna know why they all wear bight colours if they are gonna be running around at night, not very stealth like.

Tornado

08-19-2008, 02:40 PM

It could just be a promo shot.

Well... that's possible, but I'd bet against it. They don't really shoot promo shots for "Smallville," and when they do they're very staged-looking (as most promo shots are). This one looks different.

Spirited Away

08-19-2008, 05:49 PM

And it looks like whatever scene it's in is Metropolis. You can see the massive new set in the background.

Spirited Away

08-19-2008, 05:55 PM

Tornado

08-19-2008, 07:23 PM

I can't remember where for the life of me I read this, but:

one of the Justice Leaguers turns traitor, and tries to kill Clark. My money is on Aquaman - I think they're setting him up as a villain in Smallville.

Whoa! I had not heard that, good find if true. If that ends up being the case I'd place my bet on Green Arrow. I know the producers are making a big deal out of Clark finally accepting his destiny this year, and in turn Oliver becoming less and less certain with his future. I could see it happening, but Aquaman makes sense too.

Neverending

08-20-2008, 07:46 AM

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/tvguideseason8.jpg

That's just ridiculous. The Green Arrow suit is cool and all, but the other two are a joke. It's like something you'd see on Lois & Clark.

Tornado

08-20-2008, 11:00 AM

You're not too keen on spoiler tags eh?

Spirited Away

08-20-2008, 02:07 PM

lol. Actually, in the Comic Con trailer, you do see Green Arrow shooting an arrow into Clark.

Tornado

08-21-2008, 06:14 PM

The seventh episode of the season is titled, IDENTITY.

That could be a ground-breaking episode. Oh boy! :)

King_of_Skid_Row

08-21-2008, 06:17 PM

I don't know why, but I'm just not excited for this season. Ever since Season 5, the show feels like it has no direction.

Neverending

08-22-2008, 09:06 AM

The seventh episode of the season is titled, IDENTITY.

That could be a ground-breaking episode. Oh boy! :)

Or maybe it's just another Smallville episode that will piss us off. ;)

insaneMoViEgoer

08-22-2008, 04:34 PM

Or maybe it's just another Smallville episode that will piss us off. ;)

i hope not. based on the latest spoiler from ksite, it doesnt sound like a typical filler episode

Episode #8-7: "Identity"
October 30, 2008

UPDATED 8/21/08: Jimmy takes a photo of a red and blue blur, and Clark is determined to keep him from finding out the truth about who has been saving the day.
- Title Posted. Please do not repost this on other websites without a link to KryptonSite.com.

Tornado

08-22-2008, 04:35 PM

Sounds great, but if it turns out sour it certainly would've be the first time this show has crushed my hopes.

Spirited Away

08-26-2008, 09:37 AM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93573

Chloe and Jimmy do get married, but Doomday pays an unexpected visit.

Alien

08-27-2008, 09:45 AM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93573

Chloe and Jimmy do get married, but Doomday pays an unexpected visit.
So is he gonna be freak of the week? :(

Tornado

08-27-2008, 10:00 AM

No.

Tornado

08-27-2008, 04:11 PM

There were a bunch of new items today!

The Official Write-Up for Season 8:

Now in its eighth season, this modern reinterpretation of the enduring Superman mythology and its classic characters continues to blend realism, adventure and emotion into an exciting action series. With realistic portrayals and award-winning, state-of-the-art special effects, SMALLVILLE stars Tom Welling (The Fog, Cheaper by the Dozen movies), Allison Mack (The Ant Bully, Opposite Sex), Erica Durance (House of the Dead, The Butterfly Effect 2), Aaron Ashmore (Veronica Mars, The West Wing, upcoming The Christmas Cottage), Cassidy Freeman (Finishing the Game: The Search for a New Bruce Lee, Cold Case), Sam Witwer (Battlestar Galatica) and Justin Hartley (Aquaman, Passions). From Tollin/Robbins Productions and Warner Bros. Television, Smallville airs Thursdays (8:00–9:00 p.m. ET/PT) on The CW.

This season, Clark Kent (Welling) moves closer than ever to embracing his calling as the iconic superhero he is destined to become. Spending less time in his hometown and more time in the big city of Metropolis, Clark will encounter new challenges and new faces – both friend and foe – as he begins his career at the Daily Planet. Characters from every corner of the DC Comics universe will pay visits, including Plastique, the heroine-to-be with an explosive personality; Maxima, the seductive, intergalactic goddess; and Superman's most formidable adversary, Doomsday, the only character who is able to kill Superman. This season will also feature an appearance by DC Comics' time-traveling Legion of Superheroes, who return from the future in an episode to be penned by renowned comic book writer Geoff Johns.

Last season came to a stunning conclusion with a confrontation between Clark and his longtime nemesis, Lex Luthor (former series star Michael Rosenbaum) under the frozen columns of Clark's arctic Fortress of Solitude. Years of secrets came to a head as Clark's former friend finally discovered the truth about Clark's alien heritage. Clark's world soon came crashing down as the fortress crumbled in an icy avalanche, leaving both characters' fate a mystery.

Lex's moment of truth didn't come without a price. He murdered his father, Lionel (former series star John Glover) for information about the legendary Traveler. Clark also had to defeat Brainiac (recurring guest star James Marsters), who had banished Clark's Supergirl cousin Kara (recurring guest star Laura Vandervoort) to the Phantom Zone and attacked both Chloe (Mack) and Lana (former series star Kristin Kreuk), leaving them both in catatonic comas. Though Brainiac's demise ultimately lifted their trances, Chloe was soon arrested for hacking into federal databases – just as she was about to respond to a marriage proposal from Jimmy Olsen (Ashmore). Meanwhile, in a tearful, videotaped good-bye, Lana told Clark that she was leaving Smallville and his life forever, encouraging Clark to fulfill his destiny – something he wouldn't be able to accomplish with her in his world. While one chapter of his life seemingly came to an end, another was about to begin. With fewer commitments tethering Clark to the farm, Lois Lane (Durance) asked him to apply for a job opening at the Daily Planet.

Season eight begins a few weeks after the Fortress' icy collapse, as a LuthorCorp arctic excavation team investigates Lex's whereabouts. Members of the Justice League reunite in the search for Clark, who has been rendered powerless by the fall of the Fortress. As the season unfolds, Clark's new position at the Daily Planet will mean working across the desk from Lois. The two will be forced to team up to cover Metropolis' most pressing goings on. Sometimes it's Lois herself who becomes Clark's biggest obstacle, especially when he's on a deadline. But with Clark and Lois thrust into such close proximity, sparks are bound to fly, and feelings will start to surface that come as a surprise to both of them. At the same time, Clark begins to discover the balancing act he must perform as he explores his dual identities as both reporter and superhero.

Even with Lex gone, the Luthor mansion isn't vacant for long. Its newest resident is the beguiling Tess Mercer (Freeman), who, according to Lex's written instructions, has been placed in charge of LuthorCorp and all of its projects, including oversight of the Daily Planet. Tess proves to be as inscrutable as she is cunning, and is an enigmatic new presence in everyone's lives. It won't be long before Tess' attention turns to Clark. But Clark is wary of her intentions, and as the layers of her past are peeled away, new mysteries surface. Through it all, Tess' resolve remains unshakable – to find Lex Luthor, as she is convinced he is still alive.

Clark isn't the only one who will face formidable challenges. Oliver Queen (Hartley) returns to make Metropolis his home. He finds himself at a crossroads, forced to travel through some dark terrain – especially when demons from his past are reawakened. Oliver ultimately begins to question his role as a superhero, just as Clark is embracing his own.

With a new fiancé and puzzling new abilities that intrigue her as much as they frighten her, Chloe decides to turn her attention toward helping others. She takes over where Lana left off and reopens the Isis Foundation to provide counseling for those with meteor-powered abilities. She soon finds just how tricky the meteor-powered can be. Chloe's life is further complicated when she meets Metropolis paramedic Davis Bloome (Witwer). A tireless public servant, Bloome strikes up a fast friendship with Chloe. Soulful and mysterious, Bloome has demons of his own. He's troubled by large gaps of time that he can't remember, and as he comes closer to the answers, he must confront his own worst fear – that at his core he is pure evil.

The series, based on DC Comics characters, was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar (both of Spider-Man, Shanghai Noon movies, The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor and is executive produced by Kelly Souders (Stuck) & Brian Peterson (But I'm a Cheerleader), Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer (both of Control, Natural Selection), Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins and Joe Davola (latter three from One Tree Hill, The Bronx Is Burning, Norbit, Wild Hogs). This description was copied and pasted from KryptonSite.com. Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

The Official Write-Up for the Season Premiere, Odyssey:

THE JUSTICE LEAGUE RETURNS TO FIND CLARK AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE FORTRESS; THE NEW CEO OF LUTHORCORP COMES TO TOWN — The Justice League, lead by the Green Arrow (Justin Hartley), hits the Artic in search of Clark (Tom Welling), who disappeared after the fortress collapsed. The team immediately has a confrontation with the new CEO of Luthorcorp, Tess Mercer (Cassidy Freeman). Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) is being held prisoner by a suspicious group who has discovered she has a new power, and Clark has been stripped of his powers by Jor-El.

Erica Durance and Aaron Ashmore also star. Kevin Fair directed the episode with the story by Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders and teleplay by Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer.

Also, there are a bunch of new images over at K-Site.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 11:38 AM

So is he gonna be freak of the week? :(
No, from what I gather:

Chloe and Davis become very good friends. Of course, Davis probably had underlying feelings for Chloe, so when he attends the wedding, he must uncontrollably turn into Doomsday and kill Jimmy.

It sounds like a mid-season finale, so I'm guessing Episode 10 or 11. When SV returns in Spring 2009, Doomsday should already be outed.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 11:43 AM

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 03:10 PM

Come on, I would be shocked if that happened. I can see him showing up and killing a guest or two, but there's no way he'll kill Jimmy. The producers aren't going to kill off such a prominent character in the mythos. Jonathan and Lionel were different, but Jimmy? No. Way.
You forget Chloe can bring the dead back to life. It's pretty obvious out of all the people in the world she'd use that power on, it'd be her husband.

bbf2

08-28-2008, 03:34 PM

If you were a comics fan who never watched this show, it must sound pretty weird that there's a love triangle involving a woman choosing between Jimmy Olson and DOOMSDAY.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 03:34 PM

Two killer interviews, with awesome-but-major spoilers!

http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b26247_smallville_whats_in_store_season_eight.html
http://www.collider.com/entertainment/tv/article.asp/aid/8960/tcid/1

Just a few awesome nuggets:

- They want the show to go on as long as possible, because (as we'll see in the season premiere) it's now a completely new show, and unlike anything we've seen before.

- Season 9 is very likely, but if it's not, for whatever reason, the final arc of the season can easily act as a Series Finale.

- SUPERMAN sends the Legion back in time!

- The two DC Comics characters they most want to introduce to the SV Universe are Wonder Woman and Zatanna.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 03:35 PM

You're right, I actually did forget that. I still don't see it happening though.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 03:35 PM

If you were a comics fan who never watched this show, it must sound pretty weird that there's a love triangle involving a woman choosing between Jimmy Olson and DOOMSDAY.
There is no love triangle. Chloe doesn't love Doomsday, he is infatuated with her.

bbf2

08-28-2008, 03:39 PM

There is no love triangle. Chloe doesn't love Doomsday, he is infatuated with her.

That still fits into the definition of a love triangle. Actually, that makes it sound more ridiculous.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 04:32 PM

That still fits into the definition of a love triangle. Actually, that makes it sound more ridiculous.
No, usually a love triangle involves the object of interest having feelings for the two other points of the triangle. That is not the case in SV.

And ridiculous? How? Surely it makes perfect sense. Doomsday is being set-up as pure evil. Over the course of the season, we see fun-loving Davis transform into the Devil. So almost naturally, he's subject to the cardinal sins.

Lust and Greed for Chloe, and Envy towards Jimmy, are natural emotions. Pride from his day job as Metropolis' best paramedic, Wrath and Gluttony from his carnivorous serial killing sprees, and of course, Sloth/Depression from the actuality that he is Doomsday.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 04:38 PM

I'm just glad it sounds like we're actually going to see the Doomsday from the comics at some point this season. I've still got a bit of a grudge over what they're doing with the character, but if what I blacked out ends up being the case... well, they'll win at least a few points back.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 05:20 PM

Sam Witwer made a really good analogy at Comic-Con: what made Jaws the film it is today, is that we didn't see the shark all the time. But that's not to say we didn't see the shark.

My bet is we will see glimpses of Doomsday throughout the season, but only in all might and glory in the season/series finale.

King_of_Skid_Row

08-28-2008, 05:53 PM

It would be cool if in the season/series finale we see Clark in a Superman outfit taking on Doomsday. I want this season to show how Clark becomes Superman. I hope they show how his outfit evolves. Starts out basic then starts becoming similiar to the costume we know.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 05:58 PM

The evolution of the costume is something we'll never see. If we ever see the "Smallville" costume, it'll be in the series finale. That's the one thing I don't really want to see until the show is ending; flight is one thing, but when Clark starts wearing the costume... well, it's not really the point of "Smallville" anymore. The show was about Clark's journey toward becoming Superman.

King_of_Skid_Row

08-28-2008, 09:43 PM

Well with him working already in Metropolis, it's already not like Smallville. And the purpose of Smallville was to show an updated origin of Superman. Seeing him slowly develop the costume and his every day disguise is all apart origin. The final design should be in the series finale. The prototypes should be seen.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 09:44 PM

Wrong on all accounts. Thanks for playing though.

Dan's_Gurl

08-28-2008, 10:04 PM

yeah, clark isn't gonna be wearing the tights any time soon. maybe in the finale, but that's still a big maybe.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 10:04 PM

I think King_of_Skid_Row has a fair point, and I actually think PS3 are going down that route. The main theme of the season is dual identities and how to be a superhero in broad daylight. Episode 7 ("Identity") is especially about that, and it looks like Clark takes on his first superhero identity.

PS3 said we won't be seeing the Superman costume this season, but because of the theme, and even what we know about upcoming episodes, Clark Kent will be in some sort of costume by Episode 8.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 10:07 PM

Or, Jimmy will somehow be convinced it's nothing and Clark will just make a mental note for the future. We don't really know much about the season at this point.

Spirited Away

08-28-2008, 10:19 PM

Yep, you're right. But, with all we know so far about the season (identities and superheroes), Clark donning a non-Superman suit and identity is a possibility.

Awesome new pictures from Episode 2: http://www.kryptonsite.com/plastiquegallery1.htm

And that Justice League photo from TV Guide was just a publicity still.

King_of_Skid_Row

08-28-2008, 10:44 PM

yeah, clark isn't gonna be wearing the tights any time soon. maybe in the finale, but that's still a big maybe.

No tights but that doesn't mean another style of Superman pants. I mean this is an updated Superman. This Superman may not be wearing Peter Pan tights.

Tornado

08-28-2008, 11:12 PM

That'd be horrible if we saw him in a costume other than the typical one.

Tornado

08-29-2008, 08:29 AM

There are a bunch of stills from a new trailer (not released yet) for the premiere up at K-Site. It's weird; as I was flipping through the stills I really got the sense that this season is being run by a different team (which it is, as we all know). It seems darker and a more mature.

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Also, we now have every title for the first nine episodes (and then in spoiler tags is a copy/paste job from the spoiler section over at K-Site, only read if you really want to know what's going on):

801 - Odyssey

Written By: Todd Slavkin, Darren Swimmer, Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson
Directed By: Kevin Fair
Guest Stars: Alaina Huffman (Black Canary), Alan Ritchson (Aquaman), Phil Morris (John Jones/Martian Manhunter)

The CW's Official Description (Added 8/28/08): THE JUSTICE LEAGUE RETURNS TO FIND CLARK AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE FORTRESS; THE NEW CEO OF LUTHORCORP COMES TO TOWN — The Justice League, lead by the Green Arrow (Justin Hartley), hits the Artic in search of Clark (Tom Welling), who disappeared after the fortress collapsed. The team immediately has a confrontation with the new CEO of Luthorcorp, Tess Mercer (Cassidy Freeman). Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) is being held prisoner by a suspicious group who has discovered she has a new power, and Clark has been stripped of his powers by Jor-El. Erica Durance and Aaron Ashmore also star.

UPDATED 8/18/08: TV Guide reveals that it's the Justice League who saves Clark, as Aquaman, Black Canary, and Green Arrow track down Clark at a "shady Russian work camp" and that Clark is powerless.
- "The Justice League will never be the same, and Clark Kent will never be the same," executive producer Todd Slavkin reveals about the episode. "The premiere pushes us into areas we've never explored before, mainly Clark's destiny."

UPDATED 7/27/08: New spoilers from the Comic-Con preview:
- Lois dresses as a maid to infiltrate the Luthor mansion.
- Green Arrow shoots Clark for some reason.

UPDATED 7/11/08: Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello dropped a big bomb in his latest "Ausiello TV" vodcast: Chloe says yes to Jimmy's proposal, setting the stage for a possible wedding later this season. Sorry, we don't make this stuff up...
- The CW said on screen that the premiere is October 2, so we're really confused about the premiere date now.

UPDATED 7/7/08: TV Guide has revealed the premiere date: September 18.

UPDATED 7/3/08: Chances are good for Tom Welling fans that we will see an unshaven Clark as the story picks up a few months after the previous finale.

UPDATED 7/2/08: TV Guide has answered several of the questions about who might be saving Clark, and some new tidbits:
- Clark's rescuers will be none other than the Justice League. Expect to see not only Justin Hartley as the Green Arrow; Alan Ritchson will be returning as Aquaman, Alaina Huffman is back as the Black Canary, and Phil Morris makes his return as John Jones, the Martian Manhunter.
- The magazine also reveals what Clark's surprise is for Lois: He's taking the job at the Daily Planet, right acros from her desk. "This season's theme is 'double identities'," executive producer Kelly Souders told TV Guide. "It's about the Superman identity emerging as Clark Kent tries to maintain a normal life — or the appearance of a normal life."
- "The cameraderie as they work side-by-side that everyone loves from the DC Comics and all the Superman lore is going to come to fruition this year," Souders continues. "The two of them are thrown together in some unfortunate situations for Clark. She becomes a little bit of an obstacle to him saving the world, when he's on a deadline."

UPDATED 6/27/08: The "Researcher," "Scientist," and "Guard" roles are involved with Chloe's storyline.
- When Clark returns to Metropolis, he'll have a big surprise for Lois.

UPDATED 6/25/08: The new season begins several months after the events of the Season 7 finale.
- Casting is currently underway for "Kat," a young, eager assistant for Tess, who also makes her first appearance in this episode; and "Nikolai," a man who works on a boat with Clark near the Arctic. Roles also now being cast include a Researcher, a Scientist, and a Guard.
- Clark is brought home by some possibly-surprising rescuers.
- Oliver Queen (Justin Hartley) returns in this episode.

802 - Plastique

Written By: Holly Henderson & Don Whitehead
Directed By: Rick Rosenthal

UPDATED 7/9/08: Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello has revealed that we may have a Chloe/Doomsday/Jimmy love triangle brewing. Also, regarding Lois and Clark at the Daily Planet: "There will be a lot more comedy this season, courtesy of those new adventures Lois and Clark will be embarking on."

UPDATED 7/7/08: Bette has a connection to Level 33.1 or something very much like it.
- Roles now being cast, in addition to the role of Bette, include the following: Security Agent, Young Cop, Medic, Tommy, Clerk, and two CSI's.

UPDATED 7/4/08: This episode will explore Clark's first day on his new job and his teaming with Lois.

UPDATED 7/3/08: "Plastique" does indeed involve Bette Sans Souci, the character from the DC Comics universe. In this version she is a "15 year old street kid" who is injured in an explosion, and Chloe asks her to move in. (Thanks to S.A.M. for that tip!)
- Contrary to some reports that Chloe will be serving time for a while... in actuality, Chloe will no longer be incarcerated by the time this episode happens.
- Justin Hartley (Oliver) and Aaron Ashmore (Jimmy) do not appear in this episode.

UPDATED 7/2/08: This episode will explore Clark's first day on his new job and his teaming with Lois.
- The character of paramedic Davis Bloom makes his first appearance in this episode, and he interacts primarily with Chloe.

- Plastique is a DC Comics villain from Firestorm and Captain Atom comics.

803 - Toxic

Written By: Caroline Dries
Directed By: Mairzee Almas

UPDATED 8/27/08: Executive Producer Darren Swimmer has said in an interview at E! Online that "Chloe and Clark work together to save [Oliver]."

UPDATED 8/20/08: Oliver's poisoning causes Lois to revisit her feelings for him as she visits him in the hospital.

UPDATED 7/29/08: After Oliver is poisoned, Chloe calls a paramedic she knows (cue Davis Bloome) for what might be the first meeting between Davis and Clark.

UPDATED 7/21/08: Aaron Ashmore (Jimmy) does not appear in this episode.

UPDATED 7/14/08: Roles now being cast for "Toxic" include a Reporter, Marcos, Guard, Angelica, Megan, and Police Officer.
- Oliver is poisoned and collapses at a fundraiser tying in with the release of the Warrior Angel movie.
- Chloe and Clark attend the fundraiser together.
- Despite the title, Britney Spears has nothing to do with this episode.

804 - Instinct

Written By: Al Septien & Turi Meyer
Directed By: James Conway
Guest Stars: Charlotte Sullivan (Maxima)

UPDATED 8/27/08: From E! Online's interview with Darren Swimmer: "Maxima is the intergalactic goddess who needs to mate, and humans just don't fill the bill. The way that we portray her, one of her powers is skill at making herself irresistible to the men who come upon her—and Clark will not be immune to that. There's going to be one episode, but we're hoping to do more than one. Charlotte Sullivan is the actress we cast, and she did a really great job, she's really interesting."
- Although Lois is offered her old room back, Swimmer told E! that she and Clark will not be living together - for now.

UPDATED 8/20/08: TVGuide.com has revealed that actress Charlotte Sullivan has been cast in the role of Maxima.
- It is very likely that Shelby the dog will be making a return appearance.
- After finding the letter, Jimmy asks Chloe why she's never said those things about him, and Chloe tells Jimmy that his insecurity about Clark is wearing thin.
- Chloe does some investigating for Clark to try and find out who Maxima is.
- Tess goes to an unexpected source for help in finding Lex.
- Maxima uses her powers to seduce Clark, and Lois walks in on them in an elevator.
- Clark offers Lois "her old room back" at the very empty Kent Farm.

UPDATED 7/27/08: Yes, it is indeed Maxima in this episode.

UPDATED 7/25/08: It sounds like "Melissa" was indeed just a ploy to throw us off, and the intergalactic Maxima is indeed the one to appear in this episode.
- Justin Hartley (Oliver) and Sam Witwer (Davis Bloome) do not appear in this episode.
- The resurfacing of the "Fever" letter might lead Clark to realize what he's missing out on.

UPDATED 7/21/08: Both Jimmy and Clark learn about the letter Chloe wrote to Clark way back in the episode "Fever."

UPDATED 7/16/08: An update, thanks to S.A.M.: A super-powered character named "Melissa" has her eyes on Clark. They kiss and he tries to resist. Originally casting notices for this episode called for "Maxima," a character from the DC Comics universe of characters, but this was changed in the casting notice... we're assuming for either legal or creative reasons.... unless, of course, they're just trying to throw us off track.

805 - Committed

Directed By: Glen Winter

UPDATED 8/5/05: From TVGuide.com: Clark and Lois will be "forced" to make like lovebirds as they investigate some strange goings-on involving a crazy guy and a Moment of Truth-esque lie detector "game." In the course of this, Lois and Clark find themselves engaged in a smooch.

UPDATED 7/28/08: Someone is abducting young couples (including Chloe and Jimmy), and Lois and Clark pose as a couple themselves to investigate.

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- Lois proves herself to be a supporter of a Chloe & Clark pairing.

806 - Prey

Written By: Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders
Directed By: Michael Rohl
Guest Stars: Phil Morris (John Jones/Martian Manhunter)

UPDATED 8/20/08: Never one to keep an episode's plotline a secret, Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello explains the plot of "Prey" with more detail: "Clark and Chloe find themselves on opposing sides when a serial killer starts wreaking havoc on Metroplis in this season's sixth episode. Clark suspects Davis/Doomsday is the culprit, but Chloe's having none of it. Strengthening Clark's resolve: D/D just so happens to blackout whenever there's a new murder."

UPDATED 8/16/08: The four series regulars in this episode will be Clark, Chloe, Jimmy, and Davis Bloome.
- Clark and Chloe disagree on an issue relating to the violent things that are happening around Metropolis.

UPDATED 8/15/08: Roles now being cast for "Prey" include a Guard, Paramedic #1, Paramedic #2, Jesse, Lost Girl, Crying Girl, Chief of Police, Randy, Mary, Distraught Mother, Thugs, Boy, Robber, Bartender, and Bloody Teen Boy. Sounds pretty violent, doesn't it?

807 - Identity

UPDATED 8/27/08: Darren Swimmer tells E! Online's Kristin Dos Santos: "There's an episode where Jimmy will think he sees something and starts connecting it to Clark, and Clark has to dig himself out of it. That starts Clark thinking that maybe it would be wise to have a secret identity. He starts embracing the idea that there's someone out there saving people. He's not denying that completely anymore, he's just not ready to tell anyone it's him. And that makes this year very exciting for us."
- Sam Witwer (Davis Bloome) is not in this episode, but all of the other series regulars will be present.
- Casting notices have gone out for the role of this episode's bad guy, "Sebastian." They're also looking for a Mugger.

UPDATED 8/21/08: Jimmy takes a photo of a red and blue blur, and Clark is determined to keep him from finding out the truth about who has been saving the day.

808 - Bloodline

No news yet

809 - Legion

Written By: Geoff Johns

UPDATED 7/27/08: Popular comic book writer Geoff Johns is writing the 9th episode of Season Eight, which will introduce the Legion of Super-Heroes to the Smallville mythology. No details have been revealed except that the characters will stay true to their origins and will indeed come from the future.

Spirited Away

08-29-2008, 09:04 AM

I think that confirms Kara returns in Episode 8 ("Bloodline"). Although it'd be very nice if they also shot a cameo for Legion, and we see Kara leave with the Legion and travel to the future! It'd be the perfect ending to her character in Smallville.

Tornado

08-29-2008, 09:25 AM

Yeah, that would work pretty well.

Any word on whether we're getting promo images of the actors and cast again this year? It seems like they've been doing it every other year now (1st, 2nd, 4th, and 6th from what I remember).

Spirited Away

08-29-2008, 09:59 AM

Nope, nothing's been released.

I just had a bath, and for whatever reason, things started to move around in my head, and I've got this wild theory for how the season/series will end (MAJOR potential spoilers!):

The Idea

Clark and Doomsday have their final confrontation. Since their last one, Clark has become stronger, and can now fly. They face off, just like in Superman: Doomsday and JLA (minus the suit, of course), and eventually (after a massive battle), they reach the end of their tethers. The sun shines through the clouds of debris, giving Clark that extra bit of strength, and he takes the final blow. He kills Doomsday.

But destroying Doomsday takes all of Clark's energy and strength. Lois runs to Clark. She screams as Clark, one of her closest friends, dies in her arms (just assume she finds out his identity the previous episode).

Now, traditionally, Clark is "reborn" in the Fortress, but that's not the case in this interpretation. Chloe sees her best friend dead. Lois is crying uncontrollably besides him. Chloe knows exactly what she must do, for the sake of humanity. She kneels besides Clark, and touches his chest with her hand.

Clark comes back to life. His wounds healed. But at what cost? Chloe. This harsh reality is what marks Clark's final step into becoming Superman. [The final act can show this, if this is to be the series finale.]

The Evidence

- Allison Mack accidentally said "Doomsday kills Clark" instead of "Doomsday kills Superman" at Comic-Con. Slip of the tongue? Maybe...
- AM is only signed on for one season: surely they should have done it for more seasons, especially as they're pretty certain there'll be a Season 9
- Sam Witwer is only signed on for one season, so the Doomsday storyline finishes this year
- Chloe and Jimmy get married. Whilst this is Smallville, and separate from the mythology, Jimmy being married is a bit of a major leap. Surely, it can't be long-term?!
- WB/CW/etc. are banking of the fact Doomsday kills Superman in the comics - why do that if it won't happen in Smallville
- It's a heroic end to Chloe's character, changes the dynamic to one closer to the comics, and also provides a pretty decent series finale, if it needs to be one.

What do you think? I know it sounds pretty epic, but have you seen the new publicity stills? The show is going down the epic route anyway! No more Dawson's Creek, it's more like Heroes now.

Tornado

08-29-2008, 10:16 AM

That's more or less what I've been thinking will happen too. I'd like to see Chloe's death near the middle of the episode if that were to happen, leaving room for the funeral and then an epilogue with Clark pulling apart his shirt to reveal the Superman costume. This show is entering it's eighth season, and I've been a huge fan since I was 13 (I'm 20 now, will be 21 by the end of this season); I think the one thing the fan community deserves above all else is to see Clark in the suit.

Also, Lex needs to come back in some capacity for the series finale.

Spirited Away

08-29-2008, 01:13 PM

The first trailer's up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6r872IYj5U

Tornado

08-29-2008, 02:12 PM

Looks great! It's funny, with each passing day Rosenbaum's absence bothers me less and less. I can't wait for the season premiere. :)

bbf2

08-29-2008, 05:17 PM

And ridiculous? How? Surely it makes perfect sense.

I just mean, if someone who was only familiar with only the comics characters saw the sentence "Doomsday is jealously in love with Jimmy Olson's fiance," it would sound ridiculous. (since they would think Doomsday was nothing but a big space monster and Jimmy was a scrappy little kid.)

It makes sense within the context of the show....where you know that they made Jimmy older and a legitimate love interest for people that are Clark's age, and where you know that Doomsday is hiding Hulk-style inside of a 20-something young man.

Tornado

08-29-2008, 05:31 PM

One thing I'd really like to see this season is Clark really pushing his abilities to the limit. We saw him kind of lose it in "Bizarro" in this video (start it around 2:25):

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He's always able to handle the situation in front of him, but I'd like to see just how powerful he is at this point in his life. But, I'm guessing we'll see something similar to what I'm suggesting when he inevitably battles with Doomsday this season.

bbf2

08-29-2008, 11:11 PM

One thing I'd really like to see this season is Clark really pushing his abilities to the limit. We saw him kind of lose it in "Bizarro" in this video (start it around 2:25):

He's always able to handle the situation in front of him, but I'd like to see just how powerful he is at this point in his life. But, I'm guessing we'll see something similar to what I'm suggesting when he inevitably battles with Doomsday this season.

Yeah, it'd be awesome to see him cut loose, since Doomsday can take it.

Pretty much like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnq2D4PtvI

Spirited Away

08-30-2008, 08:03 AM

PS3 were talking about introducing Darkseid later this season. I guess, as they publicly mentioned it, it looks like we're getting him.

Tornado

08-31-2008, 12:44 PM

Here's hoping Clark gets in at least one big fight this season.

Tornado

08-31-2008, 09:51 PM

So I've been re-watching Season 1 the past two days (I'm currently watching "Shimmer"). It's weird seeing Clark and Lex as friends again, it feels like it was a lifetime ago. These first episodes are ultimately a little depressing knowing the animosity that develops between them in the later seasons.

Tornado

09-01-2008, 10:25 PM

I guess this is the potential list for directors this season:

01 - Kevin Fair
02 - Rick Rosenthal
03 - Mairzee Almas
04 - James Conway
05 - Glen Winter
06 - Michael Rohl
07 - Mairzee Almas
08 - Kevin Fair
09 - Michael Rohl
10 - Jeannot Szwarc
11 - TBA
12 - Morgan Beggs
13 - Allison Mack
14 - Michael Rohl
15 - Glen Winter
16 - Tom Welling
17 - Kevin Fair
18 - Michael Katleman
19 - James Marshall
20 - Michael Rohl
21 - Mairzee Almas
22 - James Marshall

Assuming this is true, I'm glad to see Tom getting the chance to direct another episode. I was less than thrilled with "Apocalypse" last season, but the directing was great; it was just the premise I wasn't wild about.

But more interesting is the notion that Marshall will direct two episodes at the tail end of the season. As some of you probably know, James Marshall is usually called in to direct the biggest episodes of the series ("Rosetta," "Arrival," "Vessel," and "Veritas" to name a few). The idea that he may direct two at the end says, to me, that there may be a huge arc right at the end of the season.

I cast my vote for a big showdown between Clark and Doomsday.

Tornado

09-02-2008, 09:40 AM

Geoff Johns talks about his episode, "Legion":

Hey, everyone!

So as most of you know, I'm writing an episode of Smallville this year. I've already begun working with the Smallville executive producers and head writers - Todd, Darren, Kelly and Brian - and some of the staff - Bryan, Turi, Al and Caroline. They all rock. They've been super nice, super genuine people and they've welcomed me into their clubhouse with open arms. Working on Smallville has been some of the most fun I've ever had in my career.

I can tell you with confidence, the season they have planned is easily the most ambitious to date. There are so many twists and turns. And episode 10. Episode 10 is INSANE. My episode is now 11, so it's going to be a hard act to follow, but I'll give it my all. I have to say too, that if they pull off where they're taking Doomsday...I mean, I didn't understand where they were going when they announced that Doomsday had a human alter ego. But it's freaking cool. As hell. And fans of the comics are going to be blown away when everything is actually revealed. It's really pretty spectacular.

Also, the Legion? They are absolutely, 100% on point with the Legionnaires and their relationship with Clark Kent. I can say you'll see an appearance by one of the Legion's better known enemies, but I can't reveal who just yet. More information to come when I can talk about it.

:omg: Sounds awesome! I tell ya, if Season 8 turns out to be even half as good as it looks, I think we're all going to be pretty amazed with the results.

Too bad Rosenbaum isn't around anymore to make it that much better though.

Alien

09-03-2008, 12:19 PM

Tornado

09-03-2008, 01:41 PM

Yeah...? Is that a question?

King_of_Skid_Row

09-03-2008, 05:13 PM

Well I hope it's good. Then again it can't get any worse than the lackluster Season 7.

Tornado

09-03-2008, 06:48 PM

Thanks for the input Negative Nancy.

Checklist418

09-07-2008, 11:29 PM

So I'm kind of a smallville rookie since I just watched my first episode ever last season. A friend of mine swears by this show so I gave it a shot one night. Before I watched I always thought smallville sucked, and never knew what the deal was with it.

Well needless to say I find myself watching it all the time now! I went out to buy the old seasons on dvd to catch up and cant wait for season 7 to come out too! And obviously the season premier in a few days!

King_of_Skid_Row

09-08-2008, 03:39 AM

bbf2

09-08-2008, 05:06 AM

Season 7 was so bad that I just stopped watching the show When I saw it again, I saw this episode called 'Quest'. Low and behold they took the Superman/religion to an insane extreme. He's not a GOD!!!! He's a freakin alien!! ALIEN!! ALIEN!!! Good lord.

What? The producers weren't trying to tell the viewers that he was actually a God figure...the storyline revolved around him stopping a dangerous and misguided cult member that believed he was.

Tornado

09-08-2008, 06:20 AM

Season 7 was so bad that I just stopped watching the show When I saw it again, I saw this episode called 'Quest'. Low and behold they took the Superman/religion to an insane extreme. He's not a GOD!!!! He's a freakin alien!! ALIEN!! ALIEN!!! Good lord.

You are without a doubt the biggest troll on these forums. How about you just shut the hell up? Thanks.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-08-2008, 02:14 PM

It's the truth, Clark is an alien. Not a god. I'm hoping this season lessens the freaky religious stuff.

Matrix_Fan

09-08-2008, 02:54 PM

No one is saying that Clark isn't an alien.

I don't mind the religious stuff. I figured it would be a theme used often once I saw that episode in season 1 where Clark is standing in front of an angel statue, and only the wings are seen.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-08-2008, 04:29 PM

^Yeah I remember that scene. I couldn't help but shake my head and roll my eyes. See that is called beating the viewer repeatedly over the head that Clark=Jesus and Jor-El=God.

Tornado

09-08-2008, 04:33 PM

You're being ridiculous.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-08-2008, 05:43 PM

The problem is they're making it out that he was born for the soul purpose to be a messiah. It would be nice if Clark becomes Superman because he sees how messed up the world is and decides to use his powers to help clean it up. But with this story, he was born to do it because he's a god/messiah and must fulfill this ancient biblical prophecy. It's just nonsense. I hate it when religion clashes with extraterrestrials. It happened on the X-Files and that didn't work out too well. It became a mess just like this. Quest showed just how far this religion mumbo jumbo has taken over the Superman franchise.

Tornado

09-08-2008, 05:54 PM

The problem is they're making it out that he was born for the soul purpose to be a messiah.

Not quite.

It would be nice if Clark becomes Superman because he sees how messed up the world is and decides to use his powers to help clean it up.

Yeah, and he probably will.

But with this story, he was born to do it because he's a god/messiah and must fulfill this ancient biblical prophecy.

Wrong-o!

King_of_Skid_Row

09-08-2008, 06:42 PM

Not quite.

Ater watching the episodes, yes, they are implying that's what he is.

Yeah, and he probably will.

Hopefully, but that would go against the messiah prophecy that the show beats the viewer's head with.

Wrong-o!

Nope. Very right. And the fact, Jor-El chose the family to send him to makes it look even more like Jor-El=God and Clark=Jesus.

All Clark needs to do now is grow his hair long, have a beard, and mustache. He'll be set for the 'messiah' role :rolleyes: .

Tornado

09-08-2008, 06:48 PM

Well, that's it. I'm sick and tired of your trolling, I'm putting you on my ignore list. So long Skid Row.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-08-2008, 06:55 PM

It's not like I'm not going to watch the show. I'll still look at it. And hope Season 8 is less religious.

boydston_14

09-08-2008, 08:40 PM

Dude I'm with Torn on this one, just shut up. If you keep complaining about the show, why be in a thread about it?

Jokerzilla

09-09-2008, 09:39 PM

Great show, looking forward to the new season. I hope they try something new with the eighth season. The show has been damn good, but I always feel that the fights aren't always what they could be.

Tornado

09-09-2008, 09:42 PM

I tend to agree, but I think a lot of that has to do with Clark being damn-near invincible. Either he hits you once and you're down/dead, or you spring Kryptonite on him and you take him down (and the fight suffers because of it).

I think if we see a flat-out brawl between Clark and Doomsday it'll be amazing if done right.

Neverending

09-10-2008, 12:48 PM

I think if we see a flat-out brawl between Clark and Doomsday it'll be amazing if done right.

They need to do it right if they don't want to upset the fanboys.

chloeclover

09-11-2008, 09:29 PM

Hey Guys,

Who here likes Smallville? Did anyone like season 7? Well I got this application I just found the other day where you can create your very own Smallville trailer! You pick and choose from your favorite Smallville scenes of season 7 and create your trailer. You can share with friends and family and once you create your trailer you are immediately entered to win a Nokia phone, a TV or a bunch of other Smallville fan gift sets. Heres the site, enjoy!

*edit*

Oh and if you guys didnt already know, Smallville season 7 is out on DVD today, go check it out!

Tornado

09-11-2008, 09:43 PM

Troll.

Spirited Away

09-12-2008, 07:38 PM

Even still, it's a troll from Warner Bros, which is something...

Spirited Away

09-12-2008, 07:41 PM

Here's some heart-attack inducing news: "they" are talking about not only a ninth season, but also a TENTH!

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94169

Justin Hartley thinks it'll depend on the ratings.

Tornado

09-12-2008, 07:46 PM

:funny: A tenth season? I've loved this show for seven years, and even I think they've probably gone on long enough. Now they're talking about another two years after this coming one? I think they should just focus on Season 8 for the time being.

Jason Krueger

09-13-2008, 02:24 AM

I enjoyed the first five seasons, didn't watch the 6th or 7th seasons, though I'm gonna get them on dvd. But I really think they have been pushing too hard and thats why there really haven't been many good episodes lately. To me personally, the second and third season was the best.

insaneMoViEgoer

09-13-2008, 02:31 AM

I believe the 6th season is on sale at Target for 18.99. Not sure how long the sale is though, i'm guessing till saturday.

Jason Krueger

09-13-2008, 02:45 AM

I saw it at walmart awhile back for like 16 bucks. I was surprised at how low it was.

Tornado

09-13-2008, 04:49 PM

I haven't picked up the 7th season yet, mainly because I know it'll be $20 in a couple of months and I'm not particularly interested in re-visiting the season again right now. I'll probably re-watch "Arctic" before Season 8 starts up though.

Jokerzilla

09-13-2008, 11:11 PM

I may try to find all of the seasons on ebay once the series ends.

Darth Maul

09-13-2008, 11:16 PM

whens the season start up again?

Jokerzilla

09-13-2008, 11:23 PM

I believe it's September 18th.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-14-2008, 01:19 AM

Tenth Season!?

*facepalm*

Spirited Away

09-14-2008, 09:01 AM

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-ca-reinvention14-2008sep14,0,3666765.story

After reading the bit about Smallville, and seeing the new clips and images, I don't see the problem anymore with having a 9th and 10th season.

Clark "accepts his destiny" this season. What does that means? If it means he'll be Superman or some sort of costumed saviour by season's end, and then any potential future seasons explore his first years as a superhero, then I am all for it.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-14-2008, 12:40 PM

^Okay, if they go that route then yeah. I'm all for it!! At long last!!! It truly is like a reboot :D !

Tornado

09-14-2008, 07:40 PM

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I would watch that show.

Tornado

09-14-2008, 08:47 PM

Also, what do you guys think about getting new credits? They're changing the cast around so much (getting rid of Lex, Lana, and Lionel while adding presumably Bloom, Tess, and Oliver to the credits) I think they might as well.

I can't believe the season premiere is only four days away, I am so pumped!

King_of_Skid_Row

09-14-2008, 09:17 PM

New credits and maybe a new song would be nice.

Jokerzilla

09-14-2008, 09:20 PM

After seven seasons do you seriously think they'll change the song?

King_of_Skid_Row

09-14-2008, 09:24 PM

^Probably not. But it would be interesting if they did.

If they do a ninth season I hope Metallo is the main baddie with Lex returning. They could make Metallo be really evil and just be like a smart robotic criminal.

Tornado

09-14-2008, 09:25 PM

I assume you're replying to something Skid Row said, but I wouldn't know because I have him on ignore.

They won't change the song, though. The show is identified by that song above probably everything else. Even my dad, who has never watched the show, will ask, "Are you watching Smallville?" when he's in the kitchen and can hear the theme in the next room over.

That's not to say I don't wish they would change the theme, though. I think it was fine for the time, but the show has changed dramatically since the first couple of seasons. I think there are other songs that would work better.

Jokerzilla

09-14-2008, 09:26 PM

I'm glad Lex is leaving...hopefully with this we'll see more baddies from his comic's rogue's gallery.

Tornado

09-14-2008, 09:32 PM

I think they should really just stick to developing Clark as a character this season as opposed to focusing on bringing in guest stars as they've been doing for the past three seasons. I mean, he's still not Superman. Truth be told, as excited as I am about seeing Doomsday he shouldn't be there. And that's kind of why I don't want to see Darkseid.

But at the same time, I'm not the average Smallville fan as I've read hundreds if not thousands of Superman comics, and cringe a little more every time they change the mythos.

Jokerzilla

09-14-2008, 09:35 PM

I just think it'd be interesting to see him get into more fights. It's about time we see him get into some real brawls with villains to show how he's developed as a fighter and how he's really learned to use his abilities to the best of his ability.

Checklist418

09-14-2008, 09:40 PM

Maybe I just haven't watched enough smallville yet or what, but the religious thing doesn't seem to be that bad. Does it really bother you that much? Smallville wouldn't be the first show/movie to do this either, so what's the big deal?

Who here likes Smallville? Did anyone like season 7? Well I got this application I just found the other day where you can create your very own Smallville trailer! You pick and choose from your favorite Smallville scenes of season 7 and create your trailer. You can share with friends and family and once you create your trailer you are immediately entered to win a Nokia phone, a TV or a bunch of other Smallville fan gift sets. Heres the site, enjoy!

*edit*

Oh and if you guys didnt already know, Smallville season 7 is out on DVD today, go check it out!

And for this guy.... he might be a troll, but it was actually pretty entertaining

Tornado

09-14-2008, 09:42 PM

Jokerzilla

09-14-2008, 10:14 PM

Thus far, who would you guys say is your favorite villain (that's appeared in the show)?

Tornado

09-14-2008, 10:17 PM

Lex, quite easily. Brainiac would probably be in a distant second.

Jokerzilla

09-14-2008, 10:30 PM

Truthfully, Rosenbaum's Lex is great and all, but the character as a whole is overused, but he did a fantastic job showing his change from good to evil. Brainiac is my favorite though.

Tornado

09-14-2008, 10:44 PM

See, I thought Brainiac was far over-used. He just kept showing up, like the producers weren't sure where to go from there they were. His appearances in Season 5 made sense, but in Season 7? Come on, he really had no business being around then.

Jokerzilla

09-14-2008, 11:28 PM

I thought it was pretty cool seeing him, but now that he's officially dead it'd make no sense to bring him back.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-15-2008, 03:38 AM

Brainiac was cool but...he did get over used. My favorite villain on the show was Lionel before he became a good guy.

Tornado

09-15-2008, 07:45 AM

I thought it was pretty cool seeing him, but now that he's officially dead it'd make no sense to bring him back.

Well, you can't really kill Brainiac. If even the smallest portion of him survives he can come back; since Brainiac is... well, brilliant, I assume he would probably keep a small bit of himself tucked away somewhere so he can come back to life.

I say bring him back in Season 9 if they want, but leave Season 8 to building up Tess and Doomsday who I assume will probably both be gone by the end of the season (I suppose Tess could hang around, though).

Tornado

09-16-2008, 01:47 PM

Well, I ended up picking up Season 7. I couldn't resist. Anyhoo, my question:

Near the end of Bizarro, the camera sweeps in on Clark's face healing in the sun. Cool shot. But then it happens again, only more dramatically through slow motion and the swelling of the music. Now, I remember the slow motion in the original episode, but was the first 'take' always there too? Did the camera always sweep in on Clark like that twice?

Also, only a little more than two days before Odyssey! Here's hoping the cable comes back in my dorm before then (it was out all day yesterday, and hasn't come back yet).

Tornado

09-16-2008, 09:54 PM

Is nobody else looking forward to the eighth season? ;)

Alright folks, call it: what do you think the order of the credits will be? Our likely players are: Tom Welling, Erica Durance, Allison Mack, Justin Hartley, Aaron Ashmore, Sam Witwer, and Cassidy Freeman.

This'll be my guess:

1. Tom Welling (naturally)
2. Allison Mack
3. Erica Durance
4. Aaron Ashmore
5. Cassidy Freeman
6. Sam Witwer
7. And Justin Hartley

Either way, it'll be weird seeing Erica or Allison in the #2 slot.

boydston_14

09-17-2008, 07:35 AM

I think your list is spot on.

Spirited Away

09-17-2008, 10:38 AM

Same here.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/ask-ausiello--2.html#more

Lana's first episode this season is the big wedding episode. Then she'll be back for the first four episodes in 2009.

Tornado

09-17-2008, 06:50 PM

I still want to know what will make the wedding episode into the big deal Loeb (I think?) was talking about a few weeks back. I think that's the final episode before the hiatus this year, is it possible we'll get Doomsday in the flesh? He just kept saying stuff like, "It's the most ambitious episode to date, it's going to be awesome and really tough to follow because I'm writing the 11th episode, etc."

Danny Rand

09-17-2008, 07:31 PM

it's so close to jumping the shark I'm really worried about this season. I mean Hartley wil lsave a big chunk of the show but they ****ed Bizarro up so bad and I know they will totally blow Doomsday probably

Tornado

09-17-2008, 07:33 PM

Bah, the majority of the fan base was quite pleased with how they handled Bizarro.

WuTical

09-17-2008, 09:41 PM

Bizarro was great imo. They handled him really good. Hopefully they do Doomsday justice also.

Tornado

09-17-2008, 10:24 PM

I've got faith (right now). With the new producers having written some of my favorite episodes of the series, I'm really excited for this year.

Danny Rand

09-18-2008, 09:23 AM

Bah, the majority of the fan base was quite pleased with how they handled Bizarro.

yeah because he was so close to how Bizarro is meant to be. He wasn't even close to being the reverse of Clark all he had was blocky skin big deal

Tornado

09-18-2008, 10:07 AM

Actually he was very much the opposite of Clark. I suggest you go re-watch the episodes if that's really the way you feel. Bizarro was aggressive, showy, degrading, and angered quickly. None of those traits describe Clark, aside from being aggressive at times I guess.

Also, apparently the opening credits are new. I don't know how new they are, as the term 'new' could mean a number of things: new design completely, new actor shots, new character shots behind the actors, etc.

All I know is I can't wait for the premiere! It's a little less than nine hours to go! :)

Tornado

09-18-2008, 04:09 PM

Two hours and 51 minutes!

sshuttari

09-18-2008, 05:50 PM

did the smallville episode they had on last week was that the season finale?

Cuz I recorded but I don't know if they reaired the season finale.

Tornado

09-18-2008, 06:43 PM

I didn't watch it, but I'm guessing it was probably the season finale.

17 minutes!

Tornado

09-18-2008, 07:36 PM

This has been a great episode so far, but there have been way too many ****ing commercials. I'd be curious to find out the episode's running time; I'd be surprised if it was even a tick over 40 minutes.

Tornado

09-18-2008, 08:04 PM

The producers weren't kidding when they said this season is going to have Clark embracing his destiny to a degree we haven't seen. I was excited to see the Manhunter show up, and Clark to take the Daily Planet job at the tail end too. Chloe's power could be interesting, but it almost seems like maybe the producers weren't quite sure what to do with the character other than her relationship with Jimmy. Regardless, I thought this was a great episode and one of the best season premieres, and possibly the best. I'd have to re-watch it though before making that claim for sure though.

A-

On a side note, I was a little underwhelmed by the semi-new credit sequence. Why did they use Clark's jumping punch from Bizarro for his character shot? I understand they wanted to show his powers in action, but that? I was expecting something better. Personally, I would've gone with the shot from Action when he lets the cape unfold in his hands in the wind. Iconic to say the least.

Danny Rand

09-18-2008, 09:15 PM

I was underwhelmed it's getting far too soap opera and the dialogue was a step down in quality

Dan's_Gurl

09-18-2008, 09:25 PM

i liked it. It kept me interested.

sshuttari

09-18-2008, 11:52 PM

I was underwhelmed it's getting far too soap opera and the dialogue was a step down in quality

I always thought Smallville was a teen soap opera.

Tornado

09-18-2008, 11:54 PM

I think if anything it has been shying away from being a teen soap opera. That's exactly what it was for the first couple of seasons.

Danny Rand

09-19-2008, 09:41 AM

I always thought Smallville was a teen soap opera.

no it was a well written drama now it is a let's change all the characters from the comics around as we want and let's make it as sappy and softly written as possible

I mean **** Manhunter doesn't even shapeshift or try to go into peoples minds and telepathically take them over or anything. He did a little bit of it but come on! Doomsday should've been a bad ass ****ing force of nature bent on nothing but destroying the traveler by physically tearing him apart

Chloe and her now having downloaded far too predictable and blah

Jason Krueger

09-19-2008, 10:18 AM

Man the official cw site sucks, I go there to watch the premiere and its not even up yet :( most other network sites have the episode up the very next day.

Spirited Away

09-19-2008, 10:42 AM

Doomsday should've been a bad ass ****ing force of nature bent on nothing but destroying the traveler by physically tearing him apart
Doomsday hasn't been introduced yet...

unity768

09-19-2008, 01:09 PM

the dialogue in smallville used to be bearable..now its laughable..this show has run its course

Spirited Away

09-19-2008, 02:13 PM

Ratings prove otherwise. And you still tuned in.

Tornado

09-19-2008, 04:42 PM

Chloe and her now having downloaded far too predictable and blah

A lot of people seem to think she might have "stolen" that power from Brainiac, so no I don't think that's predictable at all. If you don't like the show don't watch it, it doesn't get any simpler than that.

Spirited Away

09-19-2008, 07:10 PM

I think I've worked out something key about Doomsday, might be wrong but I'll post it:

Everybody has assumed Kal-El/Clark is The Traveller, but what if he's not? What if the Traveller is actually Doomsday, and the events of 'Artic' actually activated him?

Tornado

09-19-2008, 07:18 PM

That'd be a solid idea if Teague hadn't introduced the idea of a 'Destroyer' as well. Now, if Doomsday ended up being the Destroyer and came about the same way you just described, I'd be fine with that.

Darth Maul

09-19-2008, 09:02 PM

Tolkien

09-20-2008, 02:37 AM

I had a lot I wanted to say about the premiere episode... until I saw Tornado's Avatar, lmao. What's with that avy?

sshuttari

09-20-2008, 02:39 AM

agreed, i wonder when you know who will show up.

Voldermort ;)

King_of_Skid_Row

09-20-2008, 02:40 AM

I loved the premier and I love that Clark is now working for the Daily Planet. If anyone is wondering how he is able to get to such a high position....just remember Clark is supposedly the fastest typist at the Planet( I remember Perry saying something like that in the movies).

Tolkien

09-20-2008, 03:59 AM

I want to know why it doesn't explain howcome they're working in the basement, lmao.

bbf2

09-20-2008, 05:32 AM

I was kind of underwhelmed, but I think there could be some good things to occur.

Clark loses his powers thanks to Jor-El....again....hooray. I guess it was a good way of explaining the "controlling the Traveller" thing away but I feel like we've seen that 100 times, especially in season premieres.

Lex's stand-in lady was pretty terrible. The scenes she was in were really boring and I thought she was a really bad actor. Plus, why couldn't they use the name of a real character from Superman mythos instead of inventing their own? Mercy Graves, Miss Tessmacher...why couldn't they have used one of those names? She's clearly based on some combination of the two.

I like that he seems to be embracing his destiny though, and the. I'll overlook the fact that him immediately getting a job reporting for a major metropolitan newspaper with zero experience is absolutely freaking preposterous, because watching someone slowly rise up from the ranks is boring.

unity768

09-20-2008, 09:22 AM

Tornado

09-20-2008, 09:42 AM

I had a lot I wanted to say about the premiere episode... until I saw Tornado's Avatar, lmao. What's with that avy?

Haha, it was a comment made during the Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode of Manos: The Hands of Fate.

I want to know why it doesn't explain howcome they're working in the basement, lmao.

I don't know how it works in the real newspapers, but I think the Smallville-ian idea is that the low-level reporters start out in the basement. And each floor up is devoted to a section, I think. I'm not really sure though as that's something they've never fully talked about.

I like that he seems to be embracing his destiny though, and the. I'll overlook the fact that him immediately getting a job reporting for a major metropolitan newspaper with zero experience is absolutely freaking preposterous, because watching someone slowly rise up from the ranks is boring.

My only thought is that maybe Perry White works there now because he does owe him one apparently. Maybe they'll explain it in the next episode.

Tolkien

09-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Haha, it was a comment made during the Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode of Manos: The Hands of Fate.
And see, for a moment there I forgot that I wasn't the only Tolkien around. lol.

I don't know how it works in the real newspapers, but I think the Smallville-ian idea is that the low-level reporters start out in the basement. And each floor up is devoted to a section, I think. I'm not really sure though as that's something they've never fully talked about.
Yeah, that sounds like a logical plan. Though, I would have thought that the Mailroom would be in the basement. lol. I've also been wondering on just how Clark actually qualified for the job? I mean, Chloe spent YEARS trying to get into the Daily Planet. All of her qualifications and whatnot. Then out of the blue, they hand both Lois and Clark jobs when Lois doesn't have that much qualification and Clark has oh say, none at all. I kind of blame faulty writing on that part.

My only thought is that maybe Perry White works there now because he does owe him one apparently. Maybe they'll explain it in the next episode.
I wonder if they'll keep the same actor?

Tornado

09-21-2008, 10:52 PM

Yeah, that sounds like a logical plan. Though, I would have thought that the Mailroom would be in the basement. lol. I've also been wondering on just how Clark actually qualified for the job? I mean, Chloe spent YEARS trying to get into the Daily Planet. All of her qualifications and whatnot. Then out of the blue, they hand both Lois and Clark jobs when Lois doesn't have that much qualification and Clark has oh say, none at all. I kind of blame faulty writing on that part.

I wonder if they'll keep the same actor?

Yeah, well Chloe had a formal interview process, whereas Lois and (presumably) Clark just kind of lucked into their jobs. Lois got the gig last year when Gabriel was in charge of the paper and gave her a shot on the UFO story (Kara's ship), and she ended up being hired. And I'm fairly certain Clark was hired because of his connection to Perry. If that's not the case, I don't see how he could have possibly gotten that job. He worked for the Torch in high school, but as I recall he wrote articles about the new gym mats and typed up the lunch menu (also mentioned in the episode, Perry). He wasn't involved to the degree Chloe was.

And that'd be great if they brought back Michael McKean. The producers have been saying for years they've been trying to get him back, it's just that McKean is a really busy guy I guess.

Spirited Away

09-24-2008, 07:12 PM

I knew the path they were taking Chloe down.

By Episode 10, she'll be exhibiting evil tendencies, but by Episode 11, she'll be completely Brainiac-ed.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97511

At least Episode 11 is airing this side of Christmas.

Tornado

09-24-2008, 10:00 PM

Yeah, it seemed pretty obvious.

Poster!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8poster.jpg

Looks pretty cool, but they're all old promo shots.

unity768

09-25-2008, 08:25 PM

Wow a good episode..great episode actually

unity768

09-25-2008, 08:33 PM

anyone think theres any potential behind this new DC character? Bette Sans Souci aka Plastique..they switched her around to a 15yr old teen in this episode..shes not a popular character in the DC universe..hopefully she becomes more interesting with the team of villains plot they have going..legion of doom anyone?

unity768

09-25-2008, 08:38 PM

Smallville - "Plastique"

http://www.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sm802a_012b-187172c6-t3.thumbnail.jpg

"Quality Smallville is back!? Lois and Clark build up? Finally, it begins.."

Though this season's premiere was a fun yet slight disappointment, (hacked stories used over again, terrible dialogue and an unlikeable replacement for the missed Lex..no mention of Kara even? Justice League action itches me to recommend it) the 2nd episode titled "Plastique" was a hell of a comeback. I loved the upbeat chemistry between Clark and Lois, Cassidy Freeman seems to be coming into her own now and her portrayal of Tess Mercer doesn't seem contrived or fake, like in the premiere. Chloe's relationship with Davis Bloome seems interesting, adding Sam Witwer's excellent debut as the soon to be Doomsday, an idea I despised when first heard about, now more or less intrigued. It's great to see these characters growing up, and not being all bent out of shape over a love interest like in other seasons (tail end of season 6 anyone?). I enjoyed the numerous Superman references and brief moments of heroism throughout the episode. The meteor freak plot, or so it seems, was a bit cliche, although it's conclusion sparked a tremendous amount of attention my way. Though not perfect, "Plastique" is Season 8's first real quality episode, with strong cast chemistry, rare upbeat tempo between the 2 leads, and a final 5 min that left me craving more, this is the first time in a long time I'll be counting the days till next Thursday.

8/10

Smallville Season 8
Odyssey 6/10
Plastique 8/10

Tornado

09-25-2008, 09:03 PM

In short, I thought it was pretty good. I initially opposed the introduction of Doomsday, but I really enjoy Witwer's character thusfar and I would maybe go so far as to even say he could grow to the level Oliver and Kara are on. I was kinda hoping they'd just let him be for a few episodes before pushing him into becoming Doomsday, but it looks like they've already started the process. But, I'll cut the producers some slack for actually having Clark start to embrace his destiny this season. :)

And how about that bus scene at the beginning? Awesome.

B+

unity768

09-25-2008, 09:09 PM

you know, this episode had actual humor in it..when was the last time we saw that?

Tornado

09-25-2008, 09:10 PM

I laughed last week when Clark kept rocking back in the chair in the DP, but before then it had been a while.

unity768

09-25-2008, 09:33 PM

i agree, the bus scene was pretty superman-esque, which = awesomeness on the highest level of the scale

EnderDeschain

09-26-2008, 12:30 AM

Pretty damn good. I thought last week's was too. I'm shocked that Clark's character development this time around is actual development, not just more of the same. I also dig how ungloomy the tone is, as opposed to the last couple of seasons that have felt down and depressing. After hearing about Lex's departure I thought there was no way they could go forth without screwing things up, but it looks pretty decent so far. Of course, two episodes isn't a great indicator of how the season will go, they could **** it up royally from here on in for all I know. But I'll be watching to see.

I was watching it a couple hours ago and my brother wandered into the living room and sat down. After the part where that Plastique chick blew up homedude (which I didn't see coming, personally), he said "you know, I've never watched this show once in my life, but now I gotta see the rest before I can go to sleep." I thought that was pretty funny, especially considering that most (myself included) thought Smallville was long past it's must-watch point. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I suddenly find myself optimistic about this season.

ViRUs

09-26-2008, 07:38 PM

So i just started watching Smallville, I'm like 6 episodes into it actually. I was wondering if pretty much every episode is going to be about some person that has a reaction to the meteorites and gains a power.

Also, what season is currently on DVD and now on TV?

It's a pretty good episode, I just dont know if I can watch twenty different ways for Clark to take down a bad guy.

Tornado

09-26-2008, 07:46 PM

Spirited Away

09-26-2008, 08:06 PM

I like the idea of Tess Mercer starting her own "Justice League", that goes around the world taking revenge on the governments and corporations that experiment on mutants/meteor-infected. The episode where they face off against the Justice League has so much potential, possibly even a back-door pilot for a JL series itself.

All of this, however, leads me to believe that Tess Mercer = Granny Goodness, and she is just readying Earth for the arrival of Darkseid. I really hope DC Comics gives the writer's permission to use Wonder Woman, because it would be the perfect opportunity to introduce her.

There's still plenty of life left in the Smallville Universe. Even if this is the last season of 'Smallville', they need to launch a spin-off.

unity768

09-27-2008, 07:14 AM

with the CW's sudden love affair with teen soaps Gossip Girl and 90210 I don't know if a spin off is possible

EnderDeschain

09-27-2008, 07:35 AM

Who the **** watches that ****? The same folks who watched Dawson's Creek back in the day, when the CW was the WB.

I watched Dawson's Creek, back in the day.

Anyway, is it just me or is Chloe becoming more and more attractive with every season? It's probably not just me. They're probably sexing her up and I'm buying into it like the uber-consumer that I am. God, I suck. But god, she's hot.

Tornado

09-27-2008, 08:42 AM

I've always thought Chloe was the hottest woman on the show. That's one thing that's always kind of bothered me about Clark. He had the choice between Lana, who I've always felt was a little average looking (not so much in terms of beauty, but there's really nothing special about her), she has a horrible personality, she's not very nice and she's kind of a *****. And then you've got Chloe, who is utterly beautiful, smart, funny, supportive and kind of a nerd. Plus, she's big into science fiction which is a big turn-on for me.

But maybe Chloe appeals more to me because I'm also kind of a nerd. I mean, come on. Look at her:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/AllisonMack.jpg

Stunning.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 09:55 AM

with the CW's sudden love affair with teen soaps Gossip Girl and 90210 I don't know if a spin off is possible
Well, they'll need to air something before Supernatural (which will have a fifth season, no doubt), and Justin Hartley has signed on already to the CW next season, so if Welling says no, my money's on a Green Arrow spin-off.

EnderDeschain

09-27-2008, 10:19 AM

Look at her:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/AllisonMack.jpg

Stunning.

Yes sir. I will not argue. I think it's the smile. Well there's the body and all that generic stuff, but that is a truly wonderful smile she has.

Tolkien

09-27-2008, 10:49 AM

Alien

09-27-2008, 11:08 AM

Chloe used to bore me with all her Clark pineing. Then she became some sorta Deus ex Machina where no one could die coz Chloe would just bring them back with her healing powers. Now she's Mini-Brainiac or something and her healing powers have vanished for no reason.

She used to be just another character that I'd have no problem killing but now she's got her crazy computer brain thing and could be a cool character.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 04:19 PM

Now she's Mini-Brainiac or something and her healing powers have vanished for no reason.
You just answered your own question.

Episode 11 onwards, Chloe becomes the new Brainiac, and a supervillain. She lost her healing powers because she's now a computer, not a meteor-freak.

EnderDeschain

09-27-2008, 06:15 PM

Does she get nekkid?

Tornado

09-27-2008, 06:35 PM

You just answered your own question.

Episode 11 onwards, Chloe becomes the new Brainiac, and a supervillain. She lost her healing powers because she's now a computer, not a meteor-freak.

I seriously doubt she'll become a villain. That'd be the biggest jump the shark moment in the history of the show. And besides, there aren't any spoilers released past Episode 11; that's all speculation on your part.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 06:54 PM

And besides, there aren't any spoilers released past Episode 11; that's all speculation on your part.
It's not that much of a jump. Brainiac (possibly unintentionally) injected a bit of himself in her at the end of Season 7. He even made a remark like "what are you?" when he attacked her. Since then she hasn't been able to heal, and has developed supercomputer-like skills. This is a result of the Brainiac inside her.

In Episode 10 (the mid-season finale) Brainiac finally takes control, and she turns bad and runs amuck at her own wedding. By Episode 11 ('Legion', airing in February) she is 100% Brainiac, which I would class as a supervillain. And that's "just the tip of the iceberg".

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/ask-ausiello--3.html?eref=ew

Tornado

09-27-2008, 07:20 PM

It's not that much of a jump. Brainiac (possibly unintentionally) injected a bit of himself in her at the end of Season 7. He even made a remark like "what are you?" when he attacked her. Since then she hasn't been able to heal, and has developed supercomputer-like skills. This is a result of the Brainiac inside her.

In Episode 10 (the mid-season finale) Brainiac finally takes control, and she turns bad and runs amuck at her own wedding. By Episode 11 ('Legion', airing in February) she is 100% Brainiac, which I would class as a supervillain. And that's "just the tip of the iceberg".

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/ask-ausiello--3.html?eref=ew

Well....

First, Chloe couldn't heal Clark, who is not human. We don't really know the extent of Chloe's healing power; for all we know it could be confined to only healing humans. As far as I remember, she hasn't tried to heal anybody else this season. Or, like you said it could be gone. But we don't know that at this point.

Secondly, my point was that we don't actually know if Chloe "runs amuck" at her wedding. All we know is that it's a bloody mess. It could be Doomsday for all we know, or maybe something else.

And Chloe being 100% Brainiac doesn't make her a supervillain. Brainiac took over Lana and Chloe previously, and they didn't become supervillains. For all we know nothing will happen. Kara became a supervillain because she already had superpowers; I seriously doubt we're going to see Chloe flying around and killing people.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 07:30 PM

No, Brainiac has only ever taken on Kara. He put Lana and Chloe into comas. But he still made that comment in the finale when he touched Chloe, and they even put it in the "Previously on Smallville" recap, so it's an important statement.

Tornado

09-27-2008, 07:33 PM

What do you mean he didn't take over Lana? He had her burn her own hand and had her say something like, "It's too late, Kal-El." He most certainly did take over Lana. And I assume he exerted the same amount of control over Chloe, it just didn't last long enough for anything to happen.

And the comment, "What are you?" could be interpreted a dozen different ways.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 09:20 PM

Well, okay, you are right about Lana. But Brainiac was "killed" in the S7 finale, that's how Lana and Chloe came back to good health. But taking into account recent comments made by Allison Mack about Chloe going down a dark path, and the spoilers about her being taken over entirely by Brainiac (proving Brainiac must have left a bit of him in her), I think it's safe to assume she will be a villain for the final half of the season.

How else do you explain her new powers? She's not been exposed to anything since the finale, and she was kidnapped immediately after waking up out of the coma. Brainiac is the cause.

Tornado

09-27-2008, 09:26 PM

I think at the absolute worst, she might be bad for an episode or two. Clark is going to have far bigger things on his plate this season than Chloe being bad, what with Doomsday, Tess, and a rumored return of Lex (Rosenbaum seemed pretty sure he wasn't coming back, but I guess we'll have to wait for confirmation).

Even so, it'll be one of the biggest shark jumping moments I've ever seen if it ends up being true.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 09:32 PM

Tornado, I don't actually know what you're debating here?

Do you doubt Chloe becomes Brainiac? Or that when she becomes Brainiac, she'll have superpowers?

It's pretty clear Chloe becomes Brainiac. They set it up in the premiere, and EW.com is reporting it as well, with much more to come.

And of course, she will have the powers that Brainiac has. I think she already does, and over the next few episodes she'll start to use them more and more. You forget, this is Smallville, they'll obviously write it like that.

If they can give Lois Lane superpowers, they can give Chloe Brainiac's ones, especially when that's part of the storyline and already been set-up since the start of the season. And unlike every other character in SV, Chloe is completely original, so they can take the character wherever they want.

If she's going to become the good version of Brainiac in the show, they can do that. I highly doubt Allison Mack has a problem with it.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 09:38 PM

Tornado

09-27-2008, 09:44 PM

What? I'm not being that confusing.

1. I know Chloe will develop Brainiac's powers. It's already happening, and as you said I'm sure they will continue to develop.

2. Brainiac clearly infected her in Arctic. I'm not debating that either.

3. I don't know why you think Chloe will become Brainiac, there has been no evidence supporting that. Brainiac will probably take over her at some point, but that's not what you're saying.

4. I didn't forget it's Smallville. I've seen every episode at least two or three times. Believe me, I understand better than most how the show is run.

5. What I have a problem with is Chloe becoming a villain for more than an episode or two (I would compare it to Clark becoming Kal-El or Kal). She's spent the last seven years being a "good" character; a sudden shift of her own will would be disastrous. If Brainiac were to take over her body and push her down that path, that's different. But for Chloe to just say, "I'm going to be bad now," that'd be horrible.

WuTical

09-27-2008, 09:45 PM

Tornado

09-27-2008, 09:49 PM

Well, she must be Brainiac for at least three episodes, because it's highly unlikely they'll use Legion to "save" her.

And if Chloe becoming Brainiac is a Jump The Shark moment, this show flew over a shiver of sharks years ago, when Lana became a witch with a kung-fu blackbelt, Brainiac tried to kill Martha and Lois by flying them private jet to the Artic Circle, and Lex became General Zod.

That's different though. Lex was bad and became worse, Brainiac just tried to kill those two (I don't know why you included that in your list), and Lana... well, I never really liked that arc so I won't comment there. But you're talking about Chloe, the most high-spirited character on the show for the past seven years becoming a supervillain in half a season. That's a huge JTS moment.

Darkseid also

Yeah, exactly. There are bigger issues this season. We don't need Chloe turning to the darkside too.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 10:10 PM

3. I don't know why you think Chloe will become Brainiac, there has been no evidence supporting that. Brainiac will probably take over her at some point, but that's not what you're saying.
When I'm saying she becomes Brainiac, I'm saying she'll become Brainiac. End of.

I'm saying Brainiac is inside her. I'm saying the original Brainiac (played by James Marsters) unintentionally left a bit of him inside Chloe, but not enough to stop Clark from killing him. I'm saying that's why he said "what are you?" when he attacked her. I'm saying it's what's giving her these new supercomputer-like powers. I'm saying it's what's stopping her from using her old powers. And I'm saying the more she uses these new powers, the more the Brainiac inside her spreads. Like a cancer.

In Episode 10, it finally takes full control. After marrying Jimmy she loses her free will (pun intended), and the Chloe we all know and love becomes Brainiac. The Brain InterActive Contruct takes over her. And destroying Earth is at the top of its agenda. We knew Chloe and Tess will be working together later this season, now we might know why (my money is on bringing Darkseid to Earth).

And I'm not saying James Marsters is returning. His version of Brainiac was killed off in Season 7. I'm saying Chloe becomes the new Brainiac. That's the same thing as saying Brainiac takes over her, because Brainiac is inside her.

You are confusing Brainiac with Milton Fine. Milton Fine is the college professor Brainiac disguised himself as in 'Arrival'. That's not what Brainiac actually looks like: we've seen what it looks like, it's the black goo. I'm saying that black goo is what's inside Chloe.

Tornado

09-27-2008, 10:13 PM

I'm not confusing Brainiac with Milton Fine.

Frankly, I just don't like any of your ideas.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 10:42 PM

I love making stupid predictions that never come true (note, I said "predictions", the Chloe business isn't a prediction):

Tess Mercer is Granny Goodness. She is from Apokolips, but after Darkseid became adamant Earth held the answers to the Anti-Life Equation, she moved to Earth to prepare for his planned takeover. Unfortunately for her, Darkseid and his army was then overthrown and banished from Apokolips, so she has been in hiding ever since. Desperate to find her master, she knew Lex Luthor was a powerful man with unlimited resources, so she used her New God powers of persuasion to get as close to him as possible. (She can only use her powers in small doses whilst in disguise as a human.)

She also used his secret laboratories to source out potential candidates for an elite team of warriors (The Hounds), that she will lead. Their sole mission: find Darkseid, and prepare Earth for his arrival.

Plastique is the first warrior she's recruited (at least, on-screen), and I'm sure there'll be plenty more. I think 'Legion' will be the first time we really see Tess is action, and I also think she'll try to recruit Doomsday too. If Chloe stays evil for the rest of the season, she'll become allies with Tess. In the comics, Darkseid betrays Brainiac, so they could do that next season, granted there is one.

As for why Tess is pining over Lex, she needs him to be part of the Hounds too. Only he has access to all his wealth and government resources, there's only so much Tess can do. If Michael Rosenbaum returns, I think Tess speaking for Darkseid will say he can become President of Earth or whatever he wants to be, once Darkseid finds the answer he's looking for. Of course, Darkseid won't ever honour that agreement, and Tess knows that!
My prediction, probably won't happen, but I hope some parts of it do.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 10:49 PM

Frankly, I just don't like any of your ideas.
It's not really my idea. If I was a writer, I'd have killed Chloe off in Season 6, and used it as Lois' motivation for bringing LuthorCorp down.

Erica Durance is allowed to be in up to 18 episodes a year, so it's not like the show wouldn't have a lead actress or anything.

Tornado

09-27-2008, 10:53 PM

If I was a writer for the show I'm not sure what I'd do with Chloe. I never would have given her powers though, that's for sure. She couldn't keep working at the Planet as that would have caused some goofiness later on, in terms of lining it up with the Reeve films (which is something Millar and Gough used to always talk about doing).

Truthfully, I think I could've told my "Smallville" story in five seasons.

Spirited Away

09-27-2008, 10:55 PM

Mark Millar says he can tell his in 8 hours.

ViRUs

09-28-2008, 04:59 PM

Honestly, the first four seasons are very similar. There are scenes of character/relationship development, but most of the early episodes revolve around a new freak of the week being introduced and Clark eventually taking him down.

Season 7 was released on DVD a few weeks back, Season 8 just started airing on TV last week.

Thanks, so does the show get better after the fourth season then? I'm just wondering, I like the character/relationship development so I'll probably stick it out.

Tornado

09-28-2008, 05:05 PM

It's hard to say which half of the series is better as Season 5 really changed the pacing of the show. The second half of the series wasn't as concerned with soap opera-ish drama as the first half was, but as a result the character development tends to suffer a bit.

I guess I would say I probably prefer Seasons 5-8.

Big-Lead5

09-28-2008, 05:13 PM

Hey Tornado I'm going tell u somehing Shocking.

I have never seen 1 episode of Smallville

unity768

09-28-2008, 05:44 PM

seasons 1-3 are golden for Smallville (loved season 3)..season 5 was a breath of fresh air and seasons 4,6,7 are lacking, with 7 being the worst IMO.

Tornado

09-28-2008, 05:46 PM

1. 5
2. 7
3. 4
4. 3
5. 2
6. 1
7. 6

That's probably how I'd rank 'em.

Tolkien

09-28-2008, 05:50 PM

I own seasons one through five. I havn't purchased 6 or 7 yet.

I mean I've seen every episode already. Just, 6 and 7 doesn't seem worth buying yet.

King_of_Skid_Row

09-28-2008, 06:57 PM

Here's how I rank them:

3
2
5
4
1
*Gigantic gap*
6
7

Season 6 and 7 are the Superman 3 and 4 of this series.

true fan11212

09-28-2008, 06:59 PM

1. 5
2. 7
3. 4
4. 3
5. 2
6. 1
7. 6

That's probably how I'd rank 'em.

That's pretty close to my ranking as well (I haven't seen the other seasons in a LONG time, so I don't know exactly how I'd rank them).

Truthfully, I think I could've told my "Smallville" story in five seasons.

Honestly, that's how long Smallville should have lasted. Anyway, although we're only two episodes in, Season Eight feels pretty weak. The new cast members feel awkwardly placed in the story and the new focus of the show feels like a half-assed attempt to extended the life of the series for a few more seasons.

Tornado

09-28-2008, 07:01 PM

I own seasons one through five. I havn't purchased 6 or 7 yet.

I mean I've seen every episode already. Just, 6 and 7 doesn't seem worth buying yet.

Totally understandable. I'm glad I own all seven seasons, but they're not the first thing I turn to when I'm looking for a DVD to chill out with. I'll go with Lost, BSG, Dexter, The X-Files, and The Office (and movies) before I go with Smallville.

unity768

09-28-2008, 09:11 PM

Season 3 (The on-going Lex vs Lional with chloe in the mix was just sublime)
Season 5 (Brainiac plot was nice, Lex finally becoming the enemy, Chloe is like a side-kick & ZOD!)
Season 2 (Less FOTW, more over arching plots)
Season 1 (Everything was simple and new, Lex/Clark relationship was intriguing, not that it ever stopped just more so in this season)
---------
Season 6 (Had some terrific episodes and green arrow was nice, but the Lex/Lana thing was just not working for me)
Season 4 (Witches!? enough said..but flash was cool and the finale was awesome)
Season 7 (Kryptonite bubble gum!, a horrible amnesia plot with Kara, Lana hitting an all time high in uselessness, a rehash of old plot lines [the traveler s h i t] and underdeveloped use of Brianiac..but Bizzaro was awesome and Lex becoming EVIL was epic)

Tolkien

09-28-2008, 10:18 PM

Totally understandable. I'm glad I own all seven seasons, but they're not the first thing I turn to when I'm looking for a DVD to chill out with. I'll go with Lost, BSG, Dexter, The X-Files, and The Office (and movies) before I go with Smallville.

A couple of years back I felt like re-watching them, so I did. Seasons one through five. Took me a couple of months but it was fun rewatching them again. With six and seven, it's not that I hate the seasons, it's just that I'm not edger to rewatch those episodes again. Maybe when the prices drop a little I'll pick them up. Other than that, I'll stick to watching it on TV.

Neverending

09-29-2008, 11:29 AM

I'm late to the conversation, so I'll keep it short. The first two episodes were good. I like where the season is going. That being said...the season is still in set-up mode. I can't wait till stuff actually start to happen. You know? And let's hope that they don't disappoint.

I've always thought Chloe was the hottest woman on the show.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/AllisonMack.jpg

She is hot. I'll give you that. Lana, however, was beautiful. It's just that her character was SO ANNOYING that it hurt her image. And, Erica Durance is sexy. Even with those fake boobs. lol.

I guess I would say I probably prefer Seasons 5-8.

I definitely prefer seasons 5-8. The first four were crap WB soap opera nonsense with the freaks of the week crap. The ONLY episodes worth watching are the "special" ones like the Chris Reeve guest starring and Erica Durance's first couple of episodes. I'll never forget that bathroom scene. lol. :P

unity768

09-29-2008, 12:17 PM

I definitely prefer seasons 5-8. The first four were crap WB soap opera nonsense with the freaks of the week crap. The ONLY episodes worth watching are the "special" ones like the Chris Reeve guest starring and Erica Durance's first couple of episodes. I'll never forget that bathroom scene. lol. :P

You didn't like season 3!? come come..

ViRUs

09-29-2008, 01:31 PM

ok, cool. It seems that season one is pretty far down on peoples list, with 2-3 near the top. I guess I'll stick it out and keep watching.

Thanks for the input guys.

Alien

09-30-2008, 07:37 AM

If they can give Lois Lane superpowers, they can give Chloe Brainiac's ones, especially when that's part of the storyline and already been set-up since the start of the season. And unlike every other character in SV, Chloe is completely original, so they can take the character wherever they want.
Lois had powers?

Tornado

09-30-2008, 01:13 PM

She does in a later episode.

Alien

10-01-2008, 04:23 AM

She does in a later episode.
Okay, goosd. I thought I'd missed something.

I liked Plastique as a simple feak of the week episode with possible allusions to something bigger, but they have been toying with the bigger idea for a while and never go anywhere with it.

What ever happened to Mr. Mxyzptlk? He was taken by Lex and didn't seem to be taken to 33.1 or anything.

Spirited Away

10-01-2008, 10:48 AM

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117993158.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

Oh God, I hope Tom Welling stays on for another year. I was hoping they'd do Wonder Woman, or one about the JLA, but not friggin' Dick Grayson. He doesn't even have any special powers, so they're going to have to really mix it up, otherwise it's a pretty dull concept.

And I doubt they'll even set it in the same universe as SV, instead they'll use the upcoming JL movie or something.

Spirited Away

10-02-2008, 01:56 PM

Never have we been so committed to the continuing success of Smallville as we are to seasons 8 and 9. The cast, crew, writers and producers are all working full-steam ahead ... and we're looking far beyond!
http://graysons.kryptonsite.com/

They've confirmed Season 9, and are implying Smallville may go on for longer. And Dick Grayson isn't a replacement series.

If Reaper does alright in ratings this season, my money is on Smallville and Dick Grayson teaming up on Wednesdays next season, and Reaper and Supernatural on Thursdays.

Tornado

10-02-2008, 06:34 PM

Well, them saying they want to do a Season 9 doesn't mean anything. If the ratings are good and Welling wants to come back we'll see one.

26 minutes!

Tornado

10-02-2008, 08:03 PM

I thought tonight's episode was mediocre at best. I enjoyed Oliver's flashback scenes (despite it seeming like he became a master of archery far too quickly, but I suppose he certainly had the time to practice it), but the scenes in the present day were a little lacking. I liked the banter between Clark and Lois near the end, but that really wasn't enough to save it. Next week's episode looks... well, I hope it was better than tonight's.

C-

unity768

10-02-2008, 10:09 PM

Smallville - "Toxic"

http://www.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/sm803b_0237b-39fc1f08-t3.thumbnail.jpg

After last weeks episode titled, "Plastique" I began to believe in the producers that took over for the fleeing duo of Gough & Millar. That episode showed an interesting relationship between Lois and Clark, and more primarily a side of the show that hadn't been present for quite some time, Smallville's ability to be witty and fun. "Toxic" has issues right from the get-go. the premise is heavily focused on the Green Arrow. This is not the Green Arrow show, this is Smallville. I'm not attracted to his origins and what not. I tune in for Clarks origin not Oliver Queens. With that being said, I was willing to give this a shot, being that I actually tuned in. The island crap, which we are deeply familiar with felt like a cheap way of explaining Queens reformation into becoming the Green Arrow. Tess being involved felt ridiculously forced and crammed the episode. To sum this up, I just couldn't get into the plot of this episode. I had no desire for it, and after watching remain the same. A better focused could have been on Chloe's unique brain powers derived from Brainiac, though I hope this is explored in a later episode as I was craving for more depth and explanation from "Toxic" on that respected subplot. Green Arrow confronting Clark about being afraid is something we have seen before and felt very recycled and over used. Smallville's exec producers have to have faith in this character, and after 7 seasons I hope to dear god we get new issues and more growth instead of recycled complaints and over-used problems from past seasons. Although it's not a terrible episode, I felt disappointed because with such a strong second episode, I was hoping that the third would just further explore the Clark Kent we all know and love. With that being said, I hope they don;t screw up Maxima a she's an important part to the mythology of Superman.

5/10

King_of_Skid_Row

10-02-2008, 10:51 PM

You know what's funny about this show. So many characters tell Clark that he is afraid and yet he keeps beating the villains and saving 60% of the characters from doom. I'm sorry but Oliver's complaints had me laughing.

This show can get away with anything and still stay on the air. I bet if this didn't have the Superman name on it, it wouldn't have lasted this long.

Anyway I saw the episode and thought it was bad. I give it a 3/10. Just because the Supe logo is on this show doesn't mean i'm going to go light on it.

Neverending

10-03-2008, 12:31 AM

So, is Tess supposed to be Mercy Graves? If I am not mistaken, Oliver called her Mercy and at the end we saw her license plate say, "No Mercy." :confused:

EnderDeschain

10-03-2008, 02:03 AM

Well, her name's Tess Mercer. I think they're just playing on her name.

Yeah, this episode felt a little weak, compared to the last two. I'm sure they'll be getting much further into the Chloe Brainiac thing later on, but I wanna know what the heck's going on with the nurse guy. I know he's gonna be Doomsday or whatever, but I want 'em to hurry up.

bbf2

10-07-2008, 04:58 AM

This show has really, really been benefiting from the absence of Lana. I’d say it helps the show so much that the show has overall improved despite the lack of Luthors. The Luthors were far and away the best thing about this show (heck, the only reason to watch it) in seasons 1-4. Especially in season 3, the Luthor plotlines in Season 3 were absolutely amazing television and the best thing the show has ever done. But both of them were really so tremendously ruined from Season 5 onwards (Lex with the Lana marriage stuff and descent into evil being because of her, and Lionel with the terrible on again/off again redemption storylines which culminated with him eating Thanksgiving dinner with the Kents and everyone forgetting that he was ever evil) to such a ridiculous extent that I actually don’t even miss them.

I can't watch the episode until they put it online, so here's my running commentary as I watch it:

Overall I do really like how they portray Green Arrow. Especially the fact that they’ve kept him as a hardcore liberal, that was a nice touch. Plus he's a good actor who is able to sell even his crappy lines.

I like how they have scenes and plots where an established DC character (who
we know survives to be in Superman’s future) is in peril, as if they’re trying to create tension that they might die when we know they can’t. I mean that’s obviously unavoidable, but I’ve always found it amusing

Chloe to Davis: “We think he may have been poisoned.” Our indications are the fact that he took a drink of a foreign substance and then fell down, and the fact that he told us he was poisoned.

They really need to stop with the lingering close-ups of She-Lex’s face after the other person leaves the room. The actress is just not good at all at expressing emotions. I can’t tell if She-Lex is supposed to look contemplative or menacing or remorseful or whatever the hell she’s thinking, she just stands there with a blank look on her face.

Giving Chloe super Brainiac powers was a great idea – now all the Chloe Deus ex Machinas where she can find or solve anything on a computer instantly have a reason behind them instead of just being ridiculously impossible.

HAY GUYS WHEN LOIS IS TALKING ABOUT HOW ITS HARD DATING SOMEONE WITH A HERO COMPLEX ITS FORESHADOWING BECAUSE SHE EVENTUALLY FALLS IN LOVE WITH SUPERMAN!!! GET IT!?

She-Lex getting her revenge on the guy was kinda cool, but that NOMERCY license plate at the end was so ridiculously stupid and corny that it ruined everything.