Smallville

[Tornado]

The First Five:

1. Fortress - My version of Season 7 ended with Clark and Lana breaking up for good, and Lana leaving Smallville to live with her Aunt Nell in Metropolis (meaning, written out for the time being). Also, Lex found the Fortress. In this premiere, Lex enters the Fortress and speaks to Jor-El and asks about the traveler, but Jor-El realizes it’s not Clark and warps him back to the caves (he found the Fortress through other means, not the caves). Nothing more comes of it for the episode, but Lex will always know how to get there. Aside from that, the episode ends as most do with all being well.

2. Flight - Clark learns to fly, and uses his new ability to save Chloe who is pushed off of the Daily Planet roof by the freak of the week.

3. Change - Clark starts to branch out of Smallville; he sees a news report about people being held hostage at a bank in England, Clark saves them and starts to think he could do more good for the world instead of just Smallville and Metropolis.

4. Amazon - Clark meets Diana Prince, the future Wonder Woman. She helps push the season-long trend of Clark deciding he needs to protect the world instead of just Smallville.

5. Confrontation - Clark has been spending a lot of time flying around Metropolis, and Lex starts to dig to find out who it is. Clark scrambles when Lex gets close to the truth.

[Tornado]

This took a lot longer than I thought it would:

6. Threat - Lex is very certain Clark is the person flying, but then sees the flying person again (Kara) when he confronts Clark about it.

7. Memory - Lana returns to Smallville on a whim, but doesn’t remember anything about her time in Smallville. It’s revealed she attempted to go to the Fortress on her own, but while there Jor-El erased her memory. Clark is upset at Jor-El initially, but comes to realize he has only been doing what’s best for his son. Clark decides to not re-tell Lana his secret.

8. Lantern - Clark meets John Stewart, the future Green Lantern. Stewart already has his ring, but hasn’t made the final push to become the Lantern. Again, he helps push Clark in the right direction.

9. Mermaid - Clark meets Lori Lemaris, a mermaid. In the comics she and Clark dated in college, but this is a one-off with no future meaning.

10. Metal - John Corben (Metallo) shows up in Metropolis, wreaking havoc left and right. Clark and Kara must unite to find a way to defeat him and his kryptonite core.

11. Slow - Metallo introduces his slow kryptonite, which affects humans the same way green kryptonite affects Kryptonians. With Kara left for dead by Metallo, Clark must defeat Metallo before he hurts more people.

12. Knight - The introduction of Bruce Wayne, the future Batman. He’s not Batman obviously, but his morals and character strengths are already in place. And yep, more pushing Clark.

13. Finest - Clark and Bruce team up to take down one of Lex’s projects. The episode ends with the two parting ways, and Bruce returning to his global travels. Clark’s future attitude is more or less solidified by now.

14. Glimpse - Clark accidentally stumbles into a kryptonite filled quarry, and passes out. While he’s out, he has a dream of his future and where Lex fits into it.

15. Test - Chloe brings up the topic “What can’t you do?” So the two venture to the arctic so Clark can test the magnitude of his powers. This, obviously, is a long shot but it’s something I’ve been pulling for for a long time.

16. Guardian - Clark flak-jackets a bomb in downtown Metropolis and Jimmy snaps a photo of a speeding blur in the process.

17. Protect - (in a nod to Spirited Away) Clark is mortally wounded, and Chloe uses her healing powers to save him. She dies in the process, and Clark decides there is nothing left in Smallville for him.

18. Strength - Clark and company deal with Chloe’s death.

19. Guidance - Clark leaves Smallville for good to train with Jor-El at the Fortress.

20. Return - Clark returns after several years, and conveniently is hired at the Daily Planet by Perry White (now Editor), where he plays the bumbling, glasses-wearing nerd from the Superman films.

21. Alias - Martha makes her return to the show, and sews Clark’s Superman suit. She tells him she’s very proud of him, which is some dialogue I’ve missed since Jonathan died and she left. It’s established that Martha is living in Smallville with Shelby, and Ben Hubbard tends the farm.

22. Superman - Clark finally dons the tights to save Lois, who is stuck in a helicopter hanging out over the edge of the Daily Planet (Superman: The Movie). And of course, we get the famous dialogue of “Who are you?” “A friend. Goodbye!” which of course, will have much deeper meaning because of their history on the show. Clark takes off, Lois faints, Clark flies around the Metropolis skies for a while, and then into space for the trademark smile and fly past the camera.

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There you have it; I covered a lot of ground, but I tried to bring the character up to speed with where the character more or less is now.

[Spirited Away]

Cool ideas there. I really like how he forms partnerships with more Justice Leaguers. And cool implementation of my Chloe dying idea.

Personally, I hope they don't make Clark wear glasses and be bumbling. They should just have it so when he puts the suit on, he's unrecognisable or something. I also hope the Lori idea is very brief.

Shouldn't the final episode just be titled "Super"? ;)

[Spirited Away]

I've always thought for Season 8, they should do a crossover with Batman (of course, not Bale's Batman, but another). The episodes would be titled "Joker" and "Gotham".

The premise: the Joker and Harley Quinn are in Metropolis. They're causing havoc, robbing banks and killing innocent civilians in the process. The Joker also has a plan to blow the whole city up, unless the Mayor meets his demands.

To make things worse, the Joker has been affected by meteor rock (he smokes it), so whenever Clark or Kara fight him, they're just normal. (The Joker figures this out.)

Chloe (if she's still alive) digs up an semi urban legend circulating Gotham City, of a caped crusader who has tackled the Joker before. Clark sets off to find this person in Gotham.

There, he crosses roads with Bruce Wayne, a massively successful young-ish businessman. They don't exactly see eye-to-eye.

At night, Clark struggles to find this Dark Knight. However, he hears a young woman being attacked, so steps in to help. At the same time, the Batman appears too, to save the girl. Immediately Clark figures this is the person he's looking for. But to his surprise, he sees its Bruce Wayne. Vice-versa, the Batman knows Clark has powers.

Next episode: Clark confronts Bruce about it, but he denies it. Clark tells him about responsibility. Then they argue how Clark has double standards, only willing to fight when it suits him, etc. etc. etc.

Exposition.

Clark comes back to Metropolis to face the Joker. Kara fights HQ. They both suck badly. But then, of course, the Batman arrives and uses his extensive knowledge of how the Joker works to defeat him.

Working together, Clark and the Batman save the day. Clark genuinely feels good about it. The Batman says although he never gets appreciated for his efforts, the satisfaction of knowing he makes a difference is rewarding enough.

If this episode is next to the series finale, it could be the final push to convince Clark to start training and become Superman.

Just my idea. Another I had was if Lex is only a guest star in Season 8, they need more villains, and introducing the Joker would be awesome. We need more DC Universe villains, just like we get Justice Leaguers.

[Tornado]

Cool ideas there. I really like how he forms partnerships with more Justice Leaguers. And cool implementation of my Chloe dying idea.

Personally, I hope they don't make Clark wear glasses and be bumbling. They should just have it so when he puts the suit on, he's unrecognisable or something. I also hope the Lori idea is very brief.

Shouldn't the final episode just be titled "Super"? ;)

Well, I think Lois and Lex have spent far too much time around Clark to just instantly be convinced it's not him later in life. So he needs a disguise, and that's the bumbling Clark we know. People forget (not you, I'm just saying) that he is Superman all of the time; Clark is the disguise.

And as for Lori, I know it's brief. That was actually the last title I came up with (I didn't do them in order, I listed probably 13 or 14 titles in a Word file and built the season around them, but the rest I just filled in as time went on), and I wanted to tie it into the mythos somehow without introducing a character like Darkseid or Parasite.

[Tornado]

I've always thought for Season 8, they should do a crossover with Batman (of course, not Bale's Batman, but another). The episodes would be titled "Joker" and "Gotham".

The premise: the Joker and Harley Quinn are in Metropolis. They're causing havoc, robbing banks and killing innocent civilians in the process. The Joker also has a plan to blow the whole city up, unless the Mayor meets his demands.

To make things worse, the Joker has been affected by meteor rock (he smokes it), so whenever Clark or Kara fight him, they're just normal. (The Joker figures this out.)

Chloe (if she's still alive) digs up an semi urban legend circulating Gotham City, of a caped crusader who has tackled the Joker before. Clark sets off to find this person in Gotham.

There, he crosses roads with Bruce Wayne, a massively successful young-ish businessman. They don't exactly see eye-to-eye.

At night, Clark struggles to find this Dark Knight. However, he hears a young woman being attacked, so steps in to help. At the same time, the Batman appears too, to save the girl. Immediately Clark figures this is the person he's looking for. But to his surprise, he sees its Bruce Wayne. Vice-versa, the Batman knows Clark has powers.

Next episode: Clark confronts Bruce about it, but he denies it. Clark tells him about responsibility. Then they argue how Clark has double standards, only willing to fight when it suits him, etc. etc. etc.

Exposition.

Clark comes back to Metropolis to face the Joker. Kara fights HQ. They both suck badly. But then, of course, the Batman arrives and uses his extensive knowledge of how the Joker works to defeat him.

Working together, Clark and the Batman save the day. Clark genuinely feels good about it. The Batman says although he never gets appreciated for his efforts, the satisfaction of knowing he makes a difference is rewarding enough.

If this episode is next to the series finale, it could be the final push to convince Clark to start training and become Superman.

Just my idea. Another I had was if Lex is only a guest star in Season 8, they need more villains, and introducing the Joker would be awesome. We need more DC Universe villains, just like we get Justice Leaguers.

This would be good for a Superman spin-off, but at this point in time Bruce isn't Batman yet. Theoretically in the Smallville universe, Bruce is traveling the world learning different fighting styles and etc. (kind of like the opening to Batman Begins, but his ordeal with Ra's was just one part of his larger training in the comics). At this point in the Smallville show, Bruce isn't Batman yet.

Also, I'm not sure how I feel about introducing the Joker in Smallville. The episode would probably be awesome, but I don't think this show is really the place for it.

[Spirited Away]

I always thought Bruce Wayne was a lot older than Clark (looked).

[Tornado]

Gough & Millar Exit Smallville
Source: Alfred Gough & Miles Millar
April 3, 2008


"Smallville" creators and executive producers Alfred Gough and Miles Millar have announced they are not staying on for the eighth season of the show. They sent out the following open letter:

As the creators of "Smallville" we look back at 7 amazing years. We look back at 152 episodes. We look back knowing that the show will continue into Season 8 without us. After much heartache and debate we have decided it is time for us to move on.

Over the last 7 years we have had the honor of working with a remarkable team of people here in Los Angeles and in Vancouver. We have been blessed with a wonderful cast who we have watched mature with admiration and affection. We have been rewarded with a fan base that is as loyal as it is vocal.

We are incredibly proud of our work on this show. We achieved what we set out to do. We never compromised our vision. We leave knowing that "Smallville" is the longest-running comic book based series of all-time. The show was featured on the covers of Rolling Stone, MAD magazine, TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly. The pilot had the highest-rated premiere in the history of the WB. Even in its seventh year it is still the #1 scripted show on the network. "Smallville" is watched by millions of people in hundreds of countries and in dozens of languages around the world.

The show's success is a credit to a fantastically talented group of people. We wanted to take this chance to single some of them out. Our writers – your work speaks for itself. James, Jae, Rob, David – the backbone of our team in Vancouver. Joe Davola, Chris and Shelly – remember those Friday night brainstorming sessions? Len Goldstein and Steve Pearlman – thanks for believing we could do this. David Nutter – for giving the show your magic touch. John Litvack – when the knives were out, you always had our backs. Ken Horton – our Yoda. Peter Roth – Smallville's biggest fan. Melinda, Michael R., Paul M., Susan and Suzanne – for steering us through 152 episodes. Greg Beeman – your passion is an inspiration. Jordan, David, Garth, Carolyn, Bob & Lew – and everyone at the much-missed WB. Paul Levitz, Greg Noveck and the guys at DC Comics. Lisa Lewis – our very own soccer mom/mafia accountant. Michael Gendler – aka mega-counsel. David Lubliner – we can finally focus on features now. And last but in no way the least, Renee Kurtz – the smartest TV agent in town, we would be nowhere without you!

Finally, to the fans who have stuck with us through the highs and the lows: know this – we never stopped fighting to make this show great. Thanks for watching.

Alfred Gough & Miles Millar

.... is it just me, or did this kind of come out of left field? Gough and Millar talked, and talked, and talked about how excited they are to finish what they started, and they're gonna back out now? This was posted at CS! and K-Site, so it seems legit (although it's still close to April Fool's... maybe it's a joke).

Here's hoping Brian Peterson and Kelly Sounders take over in Gough/Millar's absence. Brian and Kelly have been on the show since Season 2, have been story editors the whole time, and have written around.... 20 episodes (some good ones too: Phoenix, Blank, Hidden, Vessel, Bizarro, Veritas, etc.). Also, I believe they became executive producers not too long ago, so I think this move seems likely.

[Spirited Away]

New blood = good. We'll probably get flying full time out of this.

[unity768]

my take on the sudden departure of millar and gough because the other exec producer's wanna see him fly! hahaha i duno its a thought
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[Spirited Away]

The other producer was also talking about wanting to make Season 8 more about Lois and Clark's relationship, which of course is the opposite of what M&G wanted.

[Neverending]

Gough and Millar suck so this may be a good thing.

[Dan's_Gurl]

i don't know. on the one hand, it could be a wonderful creative turn for the series. on the other hand, we could get someone who will screw it up even more. we'll have to wait and see.

[Tornado]

i don't know. on the one hand, it could be a wonderful creative turn for the series. on the other hand, we could get someone who will screw it up even more. we'll have to wait and see.

Screw it up even more? The show has been getting better with each new season. I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Supernatural. ;)

For the record, I'd rate the seasons as follows:

1. 5
2. 6
3. 4
4. 3
5. 2
6. 1

And I wouldn't be surprised if Season 7 finishes out at #1 or 2.

[Dan's_Gurl]

oh, you did not just go there. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/boxing_smiley.gif :P

The high school seasons were the best for me. I don't like the way they drag things out through the later seasons. They really could speed it up. Make him fly already. They're finally making Lex evil. They're finally having Lana (at least temporarily) leave. All we really need now is for Clark to learn to fly and get a job at the Daily Planet. Then I'll be happy....it would also be awesome if he and Lois finally got together, but i'm not holding my breath on that one.

[Neverending]

It's great not to work Thursday night. This is the first episode of Smallville I've seen in months! And its a Green Arrow episode. :)

EDIT:

So...did Lana have sex with Bizarro/Phantom? :confused:

[Neverending]

Siren. That was a good episode. Green Arrow. I like him. :) They should do a spin-off.

[Spirited Away]

So...did Lana have sex with Bizarro/Phantom? :confused:
Yeah she did. And more than once.

[Neverending]

Yeah she did. And more than once.

hahaha. Lana is a slut. :)

[Neverending]

The CW Announces New Smallville Helmers
Source: The CW
April 3, 2008

Yesterday, in an open letter, "Smallville" creators and executive producers Alfred Gough and Miles Millar shocked many saying they are not staying on for the eighth season of the show. Now, The CW has named their replacements:

"Al Gough and Miles Millar have been great partners and instrumental in the development and success of 'Smallville,'" said the network. "While we are sad to see them go, we are very excited to announce that executive producers Darren Swimmer, Todd Slavkin, Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson will helm the show next season. [They] have been writing for the show for the past six seasons, and as producers for the last four years, they have played an integral role in the ongoing creative evolution of the series. As showrunners, they will continue to deliver the compelling storytelling that 'Smallville' fans have come to expect and love."

[Tornado]

Wow, this seems like an upgrade! Swimmer and Slavkin (Duplicity, Covenant, Commencement, Arrival, Sneeze, etc.) are fantastic too and were my second choice for a new helming team. Judging by the episodes both teams have written, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Season 8 dives further into the Superman mythos than any other season.

[Spirited Away]

I really hope they just go flat out Superman next year, perhaps even change the series' title this year to Metropolis.

I don't know why DC Comics are so anal about Smallville - just look at how much they whore out Batman. In the last two years, we've had produced/in-development: Batman Begins/TDK, JLU, The Batman, New Frontier, Gotham Knight, and now Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

Even Superman has been whored out, with different interpretations: JLU, New Frontier, Doomsday, The Batman, Legion of Superheroes, Superman Returns. These are all different and recent interpretations of the same character. And I've not even included the JLU movie plans.

If DC Comics have become relaxed, then hopefully Season 8 of Smallville will be Superman. It's about frakking time!

[Spirited Away]

Scratch the above. I just realised Sci Fi edited their article, because they revealed too much!

So next season will mainly be about Lois and Clark! Erica Durance will be bumped up to lead. Plus Lex Luthor will have a new minion too.

[Tornado]

Scratch the above. I just realised Sci Fi edited their article, because they revealed too much!

So next season will mainly be about Lois and Clark! Erica Durance will be bumped up to lead. Plus Lex Luthor will have a new minion too.

I sincerely hope Lex's minion isn't Otis/Miss Teschmacher. That'd be a horrible move in my opinion.

[Comingsoonfan777]

unfortunately it took me a while to go from season one of smallville to season 6 on dvd. now that I have caught up, its a bit to late for me to watch on tv lol so on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest, what would u guys rate this season thus far?

[Spirited Away]

9/10. Once the final 5 episodes air, I'll give a proper review and rating, but I'm guessing it'll probably be the best of the lot.

The ratings prove it's doing well. It's the highest rated season to date since Season 2.

[Neverending]

So next season will mainly be about Lois and Clark! Erica Durance will be bumped up to lead. Plus Lex Luthor will have a new minion too.

Awesome.

[Spirited Away]

Here's what SciFi Wire edited out of the article:


"We're always hopeful, and we always plan every year for a season finale, but it's really great when we get to tell one more year of Clark's story," Peterson said in an interview.

"It's very early, and we really have to work in partnership with the studio, because right now we haven't presented anything to them," Peterson added with a laugh.

Peterson was willing to share a few spoilers about the next season. "The things I think I can hint at are the Lois and Clark of it all," he said, referring to the 1990s Superman-themed series that ran on ABC. "It's really going to be a season about Lois [Erica Durance] and Clark [Tom Welling]."

Peterson added that Clark will be facing "his own personal D-Day, and let people figure out what perhaps that means. And then I would say if people think Lex [Michael Rosenbaum] has issues now, wait until you meet his new sidekick. ... So those are the very preliminary brush strokes that we probably need to get into in the next few weeks."

[Spirited Away]

My prediction for how this season ends:

Lois prints her big expose on Lex, firmly cementing her as a journalist. The police begin to hunt Lex down. Going crazy, Lex makes a run for it.

With the key in hand, and remembering how Chloe and Clark teleported away a few years back, he runs to the Kawatche Caves. In a last minute desperation, he jumps through the emerging portal.

The rest is self explanatory. In the Fortress, Lex learns the full truth, but Jor-El kicks him out. However, because nobody knows where in the world Lex is, he's escaped from the law. And he finally knows Clark's secret.

And because he can't show his face again in public, Lex won't be able to confront Clark about him being an alien. At least, not until later in the season.

[Spirited Away]

Latest rumour mill: Tom Welling is part of the reason why Gough and Miller left. He didn't agree with their interpretation of Clark in the last few seasons (it's possible he thought CK was taking too long to be Superman).

[Neverending]

Latest rumour mill: Tom Welling is part of the reason why Gough and Miller left. He didn't agree with their interpretation of Clark in the last few seasons (it's possible he thought CK was taking too long to be Superman).

Well, of course he thought CK is taking too long. It's been 7 years.

[MissLadyVenus]

Well, of course he thought CK is taking too long. It's been 7 years.

Agreed. The story should have taken a major change in Season 5 but all they did was drag out the storylines and throw in nothing but filler. Without these goons (goughlar) gone I think Season 8 will be the best Smallville season ever.

[Spirited Away]

The following could well be pure bull, but I got in PMed to me by someone who claims to work on SV. I partly believe it because I've seen set photos they have taken:

1) Kristen Kreuk is not renewing her contract at all. She will however appear in 3 episodes next season, in-return for her missing the shoot of 3 episodes this season (due to Street Fighter).

2) Michael Rosenbaum has declined Warner Bros. offer of only appearing in 18 episodes. They are trying for 11 now, but WB's track record is poor (see Gilmore Girls). Possibly only a few episodes.

3) The new legal battle over Superman rights has possibly canceled any future plans for new Superman movies, shows, etc. This makes Tom Welling donning the tights much more likely, as Smallville is the only new Superman product next year.

So if this is all true, aside from Lex Luthor's limited appearance, this is good news all around! Next season has the most promise.

Maybe G&M left the show because WB want to make it all about Superman next year, which is not the series they signed up to do?

[Tornado]

The following could well be pure bull, but I got in PMed to me by someone who claims to work on SV. I partly believe it because I've seen set photos they have taken:

Alrighty.

1) Kristen Kreuk is not renewing her contract at all. She will however appear in 3 episodes next season, in-return for her missing the shoot of 3 episodes this season (due to Street Fighter).

In my opinion, Lana has been on the show far too long as it is. Or at the very least she has been far too involved with Clark's life. Three episodes is fine, and maybe even three too many.

2) Michael Rosenbaum has declined Warner Bros. offer of only appearing in 18 episodes. They are trying for 11 now, but WB's track record is poor (see Gilmore Girls). Possibly only a few episodes.

This is disappointing. I've always thought Rosenbaum has done a fantastic job, and I hope he comes back for at least half of the season (or at the very least, the series finale).

3) The new legal battle over Superman rights has possibly canceled any future plans for new Superman movies, shows, etc. This makes Tom Welling donning the tights much more likely, as Smallville is the only new Superman product next year.

I may be in the minority here, but I don't really need to see any more Superman movies unless Tom Welling dons the tights. That's why I've been a big proponent of Clark wearing the tights in the series finale, and not just "leaving the farm" like Al and Miles seem like they want him to do.

Maybe G&M left the show because WB want to make it all about Superman next year, which is not the series they signed up to do?

I've heard a variety of reasons for G&M's departure: budget cuts, contracts running up, conflicts with the cast, etc. I'm hesitant to believe anything until we hear something straight from Al.

And here's the official description for Sleeper:

The CW's Official Description (Added 4/7/08): JIMMY HELPS THE DEPARTMENT OF DOMESTIC SECURITY ARREST CHLOE — Clark (Tom Welling) desperately searches for Kara (Laura Vandervoort) and Brainiac (guest star James Marsters), as Brainiac is the only one who can reverse Lana's (Kristin Kreuk) condition. Clark asks Chloe (Allison Mack) to check any large power surges in the area, so she breaks into several government computers, setting off alarms. Jimmy (Aaron Ashmore) is caught between the Department of Security - who threatens him with jail time unless he helps them arrest Chloe - and Lex (Michael Rosenbaum), who offers to help clear Chloe if Jimmy agrees to be in his debt.

[Spirited Away]

New animated Supergirl series coming to Sprint mobile.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003785871

[Neverending]

I've heard a variety of reasons for G&M's departure: budget cuts, contracts running up, conflicts with the cast, etc. I'm hesitant to believe anything until we hear something straight from Al.

I'm sure it had something to do with the direction of the show.

[Comingsoonfan777]

9/10. Once the final 5 episodes air, I'll give a proper review and rating, but I'm guessing it'll probably be the best of the lot.

The ratings prove it's doing well. It's the highest rated season to date since Season 2.

wow thats great news. can`t wait to get this on dvd.

[Tolkien]

So yeah, I was watching the CW last night and they aired the ad for the new episode.

So. . . did they quite possibly ruin the most important event of the whole season? :mad:

[Neverending]

So. . . did they quite possibly ruin the most important event of the whole season? :mad:

Are you talking about Lex pushing Lionel out of a window or something like that? It's not really a spoiler. Everyone has suspected since the VERY first episode that Lex will kill Lionel at some point.

[Neverending]

Tonight's Smallville was interesting. These Lex-driven episodes are always interesting. Certain parts reminded me of that christmas episode from last season or whatever.

[Neverending]

Season 8 of this show HAS to be the last. If not, it will have officially jumped the shark. What else is there left? Tonight Lex killed Lionel and has become, well, Lex Luthor. And next week he finds the fortress.

[Tornado]

I thought last night's episode was pretty decent, and I'm anxious to see how Lex develops now that he's killed his father and the "good part" of him. I'm glad they killed off Lex's aid; I was always annoyed when she showed up on screen. But who killed her? Was that Lex's hitman who also killed Patricia Swann? It looked like him, but I couldn't be sure. Anyhoo, I thought the funeral scene was nice.

8/10

[Spirited Away]

Yeah, no-doubt they'll have a scene where Lex is told she was killed, but then hears his voice mail and realises the mistake he made.

[bbf2]

I'm glad they killed off Lex's aid; I was always annoyed when she showed up on screen. But who killed her? Was that Lex's hitman who also killed Patricia Swann? It looked like him, but I couldn't be sure.

I think it was Edward Teague.

I don't see why Lex would kill her when she was about to tell him who the Traveler was. And I think there was a reason the killer was an old man.

[Tornado]

I don't see why Lex would kill her when she was about to tell him who the Traveler was. And I think there was a reason the killer was an old man.

I agree, but the hitman who killed Patricia Swann (Lex's hitman) and the hitman who killed Lex's aid looked very similar. Coincidence? Could be, we'll have to see I guess.

[Spirited Away]

I don't see why Lex would kill her when she was about to tell him who the Traveler was.
He didn't know she knew. She left a message on voicemail.

And throughout the episode she was getting "too" close to Lex, and even said "we did it", invading his space. Lex is evil now, that's enough to warrant death.

[Tornado]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/s7dvd-big.jpg

Oh boy!

[Neverending]

Tonights episode was alright. Can wait for the what if episode and Lex at the fortress.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/s7dvd-big.jpg

Oh boy!

Kara on the cover. That should help sales.

[Tornado]

I wasn't watching tonight's episode very carefully, but it seemed kind of weak. I'm not sure I can even rate it, but I generally am not a big fan of these Jimmy-centric episodes (much like Noir was). The idea of Clark going to Krypton is kind of interesting though, but the reasoning for it is kind of awkward: attempting to prevent Brainiac from murdering the... baby version of Kal-el. Sounds kind of lame, but it could be neat if done right.

Anyway, next week's episode looks great.

[Neverending]

attempting to prevent Brainiac from murdering the... baby version of Kal-el.

Should be better than the Lois & Clark version with H.G. Wells and that Temptest guy.

[Darth Maul]

alright episode tonight, next week should be fun.

[Tornado]

Should be better than the Lois & Clark version with H.G. Wells and that Temptest guy.

I think I saw that one, but I don't remember much about it. Wasn't there a scene where Wells talked to Lois, and brought up how she's looked at as a goddess in his timeline or something?

[Neverending]

I think I saw that one, but I don't remember much about it. Wasn't there a scene where Wells talked to Lois, and brought up how she's looked at as a goddess in his timeline or something?

lol. I think so.

[Tornado]

One thing about this episode I did like was they explained why Clark was frozen in the Fortress by Jor-el, as I never fully understood it. I just thought it was punishment of some kind, but it never clicked with me that Jor-el froze him so Clark wouldn't come out of it until long after his friends had all died.

[Tornado]

Update:

1. Bizarro
2. Veritas
3. Traveler
4. Descent
5. Siren
6. Persona
7. Kara
8. Gemini
9. Blue
10. Action
11. Fracture
12. Lara
13. Sleeper
14. Hero
15. Wrath
16. Cure
17. Fierce

[Neverending]

One thing about this episode I did like was they explained why Clark was frozen in the Fortress by Jor-el, as I never fully understood it. I just thought it was punishment of some kind, but it never clicked with me that Jor-el froze him so Clark wouldn't come out of it until long after his friends had all died.

I don't like how this show makes Jor-El seem like an ass.

[Dan's_Gurl]

i liked last night's episode. It wasn't wonderful, but it entertained me. i love Jimmy, so seeing him all Bond-like was fun. I like where they're going eith the going back in time thing. next week's what if episode looks awesome. Clark wears the glasses! :D

[WuTical]

last Thursday's episode was pretty bad

Jimmy James Bond was painful to watch

[Spirited Away]

Season Finale spoilers:

LEX DISCOVERS CLARK’S SECRET — Kara tells Lex he is destined to defeat the Traveler and offers to take him to the Fortress to learn how. Clark is stunned that Kara would go to Lex but it is revealed that Brainiac is impersonating Kara and she’s actually trapped in the Phantom Zone. Chloe is arrested by the Department of Domestic Security and Lana awakens from her comatose state. Meanwhile, in an epic turn of events, Clark and Lex face off in the Fortress and Lex learns Clark’s secret.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/arcticdescription.htm

Definitely the end of a chapter.

[Tolkien]

All that stuffed into a 40min. episode? Hmm. Should be kinda sweet!

[Tornado]

I don't like how this show makes Jor-El seem like an ass.

Yeah, but the viewer is sympathetic toward Clark, making Jor-el sometimes seem extreme. Don't get me wrong, freezing somebody in place until all of his friends are dead is a pretty big deal, but sometimes Clark just needs to listen to Jor-el. If he had listened to his father Zod never would have been released, he never would have released the Phantoms, his relationship with Lana wouldn't be as strained as it is, and Lex would be dead (and Lionel alive).

[xnn and marley]

Tornado, its good to see you posting. I haven't checked out this thread in a while, but i thought you swore off this show. Before I posted on Iwish7284 but it got banned for literally no reason and i tried contacting the admin twice

Good point on the gor-el comment. If he listened to Jor-el Wouldn't lana be dead (clark's father be alive, lex's evilness fast tracked and Clark joining the Justice League too?

[Tornado]

Good point on the gor-el comment. If he listened to Jor-el Wouldn't lana be dead (clark's father be alive, lex's evilness fast tracked and Clark joining the Justice League too?

Well, Lana wouldn't necessarily be dead (unless she was killed a different way). Jor-el demanded a sacrifice because Clark decided to abandon his training in the beginning of Season 5, and that sacrifice ultimately was Jonathan. BUT, if Clark had stuck with his training, or had at least returned when Jor-el demanded, Lana and Jonathan would both still be alive.

[Spirited Away]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89143

Gossip: Michael Rosenbaum is NOT returning next year, in any capacity.

[Tornado]

Well that just blows. I wonder how they're going to resolve the cliffhanger then, because from the trailer for "Sleeper" it seems obvious he's a part of it.

[Neverending]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89143

Gossip: Michael Rosenbaum is NOT returning next year, in any capacity.

Doubt that. They just wanna surprise us towards the end of the season.

[Tornado]

I thought this episode was pretty decent. It was fun seeing Clark in his future disguise, and Krypton was awesome, but why was Lex wearing the black glove? He wears it in the future because of the cancer he developed from his kryptonite ring (which he wears to protect himself from Superman), but I don't know why he would wear one if he and Kara were as good of friends as they were made out to be.

8/10

Next week's episode looks great though.

[WuTical]

HOLY **** @ who the the new villian they have coming in for Season 8

YES!

[Tornado]

An open letter from Michael Rosenbaum about his departure from Smallville...

Dear Smallville Fans,

Well, it's been seven wonderful years. Your support is what has made Smallville so successful, and I appreciate you all more than you know.

That being said, it is time for me to start the next chapter of my life and career. I hope that I gave you some enjoyment over the years, and that you found my portrayal of Lex Luthor to be satisfying. I am truly grateful, as Smallville fans are the best fans out there. I sincerely hope that you will continue to follow my career through my hair growth period and beyond.

I'm very excited about what the future holds, but certainly, Smallville will always be a part of me. I will definitely miss the greatest crew in the world, and the wonderful cast that has been like a family to me.

Thank you Al and Miles for creating the show. Thank you writers, producers, directors and editors. Thanks Tollin, Robbins and Davola for being there for the pilot. Thank you Peter Roth for employing me for ten years. Lisa Lewis, I miss you already. John Glover, thanks for helping me feel more comfortable touching other actors, while acting. Bizarre, but helpful.

Mostly, I want to thank Greg Beeman for directing the "Oh Sherry" video, by Steve Perry, back in the 80's.

Thanks crew. Thanks fans. Thanks Smallville.

I love you all,

Michael Rosenbaum

-----------------

Funny till the very end. I had hoped he would decide to come back for a few episodes, but I guess not. That's too bad. I'm sure I'll keep watching, but this show just lost one of its best dynamics in the relationship between Clark and Lex. And damn, just when Lex was starting to get really evil too.

And Doomsday for Season 8? Would you like a list of reasons why that won't work? Ugh, I don't like where this is heading.

[Darth Maul]

HOLY **** @ who the the new villian they have coming in for Season 8

YES!

refresh my memory? was this in the episode? or is there a trailer some where.

[Tornado]

refresh my memory? was this in the episode? or is there a trailer some where.

It's in the spoilers section over at K-Site. There are two new villains for Season 8: Doomsday and an unnamed female villain (probably Mercy Graves, but that's just a guess).

[shained]

I just come onto the CS site and the main headline says he's not returning. That's bugged me quite a bit as i haven't seen any of season 7 yet and now i know at the end somethings gonna happen were he disappears...thanks a lot CS :( The same happened with 24 not too long ago i think i may stop coming on the main page of the site

[Tornado]

I just come onto the CS site and the main headline says he's not returning. That's bugged me quite a bit as i haven't seen any of season 7 yet and now i know at the end somethings gonna happen were he disappears...thanks a lot CS :( The same happened with 24 not too long ago i think i may stop coming on the main page of the site

Well, you can't blame CS! for you not having seen any of Season 7.

[shained]

But i can blame them for putting quite a huge spoiler on a site that normally doesn't do that. Something like huge news for Smallville season 8 would have easily sufficed

[Spirited Away]

A lot of little piggies squealing on Kryptonsite.

[Tornado]

But i can blame them for putting quite a huge spoiler on a site that normally doesn't do that. Something like huge news for Smallville season 8 would have easily sufficed

Well, all it said was Rosenbaum is departing. I would be very surprised if he doesn't return for the series finale, at the very least.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

he may still come back for a few eps

"Smallville Executive Producers Darren Swimmer, Todd Slavkin, Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson; The CW Network; and Warner Bros. Television have released a joint statement regarding Michael Rosenbaum’s departure from the show:

“It has been an honor and pleasure to work with Michael for the past seven seasons. He is one of the best actors on television and has never failed to bring a new layer to the character of Lex Luthor in every episode. While Michael won’t be a series regular and we won’t have the pleasure of working with him on a weekly basis this fall, we like to think that we haven’t seen the last of Lex Luthor. Stay tuned."

http://www.kryptonsite.com/byelex.htm

im hoping at least the season premiere and finale.

[IanTheCool]

is this next season going to be the last?

[Spirited Away]

Depends. It'll probably be the last season of "Smallville", but I'm guessing if the rumoured new style and tone work wonders, The CW/WB may consider a spin-off or sequel series (i.e. "Metropolis").

[Tornado]

Depends. It'll probably be the last season of "Smallville", but I'm guessing if the rumoured new style and tone work wonders, The CW/WB may consider a spin-off or sequel series (i.e. "Metropolis").

I doubt much of the original cast would return for that. I'm sure Erica and Aaron would be up for it because they're still relatively new to the show, but Tom seems like he wants out. I would probably watch it, but I think Smallville has run its course and should just be over after Season 8. The point of the show was that we didn't really know what Superman was up to when he was younger, and now that we do I don't think it needs to go any further. We already know the stories of Superman, I don't want the crew re-writing that mythos too.

It's bad enough they had Clark re-write history to send himself to Krypton (and thus destroying one of the most important moments in the Superman story), I don't want them trampling over the rest of the character's history.

[Spirited Away]

DC Comics is allowing them to use Doomsday, as well develop Lois and Clark's relationship.

That seems to me like they're already anticipating some sort of future for the SV narrative, be it Superman: Year One/Metropolis, DVD movies, TV specials, new DC Comics or even the Justice League movie!

A Justice League TV series? Personally, I'd love that.

[Dan's_Gurl]

i loved this week's episode. loved, loved, loved it.

[Dan's_Gurl]

An open letter from Michael Rosenbaum about his departure from Smallville...


Mostly, I want to thank Greg Beeman for directing the "Oh Sherry" video, by Steve Perry, back in the 80's.

Thanks crew. Thanks fans. Thanks Smallville.

I love you all,

Michael Rosenbaum



And that is how i know that rosenbaum wrote it, not his publicist. i love that guy in interviews, he's hysterical. it's a shame that he is leaving right when Lex is going really evil though.

[Neverending]

It'll probably be the last season of "Smallville"

I really hope next season is the last. These guys don't have much else to do. Its been 7 years. Clark HAS to become Superman within the next year.

I doubt much of the original cast would return for that. I'm sure Erica and Aaron would be up for it because they're still relatively new to the show, but Tom seems like he wants out.

Agreed. It has been 7 seasons. You can tell most of the cast wants to move on already.

DC Comics is allowing them to use Doomsday, as well develop Lois and Clark's relationship.

That seems to me like they're already anticipating some sort of future for the SV narrative, be it Superman: Year One/Metropolis, DVD movies, TV specials, new DC Comics or even the Justice League movie!

A Justice League TV series? Personally, I'd love that.

I can see them doing some TV movies or Direct to DVD stuff. I've always suspected that.

[Spirited Away]

My attempt at a pitch:

Metropolis: a two-hour television event.

Set four years after Smallville, the TV movie chronicles Clark Kent's first act as Superman, tracking down "The Toyman", a serial killer that disguises explosive weapons as children's toys.

Ringing in a favour to a friend - and fellow superhero - Oliver Queen, Clark land a job at the Daily Planet. With no previous journalistic ability, Clark struggles at first, but with the help of close friends Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen, finds himself getting the hang of it. Whilst reporting for the Daily Planet, Clark can monitor the latest happenings in Metropolis, as well as keep a watchful eye over his own coverage.

However, his first news story proves to be a challenge: the release of Lex Luthor. How can Clark do his job - his duty- when his secret lies in the hands of his worst enemy? Why has Lex been released? Does he remember the Fortress? Does Lex know Clark is Superman?

Of course, really does depend on a lot of things!

[Tornado]

That's not too bad Spirited, although didn't Perry Olson tell Clark in Perry that if he ever wanted a job he owed him one or something? So the call to Oliver probably wouldn't be necessary.

And this isn't necessarily directed at anybody here, but the morons at K-Site talking about Doomsday. They keep saying that if Doomsday shows up, Clark will be forced to accept his destiny. That's just stupid, and it defeats one of the best character traits of Superman: he chooses to be Superman. By forcing him into accepting his destiny, you're partially stripping him of his greatest power: his compassion for humanity.

[Spirited Away]

Good points on both accounts.

I think Doomsday is going to awaken mid-season from some sort of mythical chamber, but he'll be too weak to face Clark at full power (he still kicks his ass though). He then threatens Clark, and tells him he'll be back.

[Neverending]

Based on the show's history I'm sure the fight will be a disappointment. Then again...Gough and Millar are gone so there is hope.

[Tornado]

Doomsday just screams "mistake" to me. I think the producers should be more focused on building Clark's character than what they've become attached to: introducing as many characters from the DC universe as they can. The first four seasons did a fantastic job of developing Clark, but the past three seasons have just been wave after wave of one-time characters.

Some of them were a good call like Brainiac, Green Arrow, and Kara (Kara being one of the smartest moves they've made throughout the entire course of the series IMO), but others were a mistake (Cyborg, Zod, and Aquaman).

Doomsday is a character Clark shouldn't meet until he's Superman. And besides, with Smallville's track record with villains (making Zod and Bizarro really nowhere near their comic book counterparts) you know Doomsday is almost certainly going to be a human. They're just going to cast a towering black guy to play him, and they'll make his voice deeper with a computer.

[Agent Deadpool]

Yeah as many characters they have "introduced" on Smallville, I figured Doomsday would be the one untouchable. Season 8 really needs to be his transition into Superman. Not about how many characters can get stuffed into the final season

[Spirited Away]

Not about how many characters can get stuffed into the final season
I don't think it's aiming for that. It obviously needs more than four lead characters next year (Clark, Lois, Jimmy and Kara aren't enough), so expanding on the villains is a really good idea imo.

[Spirited Away]

New "rumour": Warner Bros. filmed Kristen Kreuk's final scenes as Lana in Thailand. They used the same crew as 'Street Fighter', with the scenes providing closure for Lana. And like the Lex scenes, they'll also allow the character to return in future.

[Tornado]

I don't think it's aiming for that. It obviously needs more than four lead characters next year (Clark, Lois, Jimmy and Kara aren't enough), so expanding on the villains is a really good idea imo.

I kind of agree, but I think Doomsday is the wrong choice. It sounds like Chloe will be coming back (hopefully), and I think it'd be smart if they brought back Perry White for half the season (13 episodes, whatever). Other than that, I don't think introducing a re-appearing villain is necessarily the right choice this late in the show. With Lex gone, I think using "villain of the weeks" or focusing more on Clark saving people instead of fighting villains in general would be the best route.

[Neverending]

Doomsday is a character Clark shouldn't meet until he's Superman.

You can say that about most characters on Smallville. Lex, Lois, Jimmy, Zod, Brainiac, etc are all characters that Clark shouldn't meet till he's Superman.

[IanTheCool]

We already know the stories of Superman, I don't want the crew re-writing that mythos too.

It's bad enough they had Clark re-write history to send himself to Krypton (and thus destroying one of the most important moments in the Superman story), I don't want them trampling over the rest of the character's history.

Um, havent they already rewritten superman in doing this series? I really dont think this show can be considered canonical when it comes to superman.

[Tornado]

You can say that about most characters on Smallville. Lex, Lois, Jimmy, Zod, Brainiac, etc are all characters that Clark shouldn't meet till he's Superman.

Well, it was revealed in... Birthright (I think) that Clark had known Lex when they were younger, so that makes a lot of sense actually. And I have absolutely no problem with Lois or Jimmy, but Zod was a mistake and I don't really see the point in Brainiac. I mean, I love what James Marsters and the writing staff did with the character, but it still doesn't feel right. But part of why I don't mind the character so much is that they introduced him as Clark's professor, which made sense. But now that he's just a random villain that pops up every now and then it's awkward.

Um, havent they already rewritten superman in doing this series? I really dont think this show can be considered canonical when it comes to superman.

Haha, you want to argue Superman canon? I understand what you're saying, but the character is 70 years old. There have been hundreds (if not thousands) of re-writes, re-boots, ret-cons, and continuity errors. I don't think there really is one canonical Superman story at this point in time, other than Jor-El and Lara placing Kal-El in his spaceship and sending him to Earth to be found by the Kents. And Smallville just destroyed that, so that was very irritating to me.

[Spirited Away]

Smallville is it's own canon. Once the series finished, DC Comics is going to capitalise on its ass, because it's the perfect excuse to relaunch (and refresh) Superman. All the origin crap has been done already.

[Tornado]

Smallville is it's own canon. Once the series finished, DC Comics is going to capitalise on its ass, because it's the perfect excuse to relaunch (and refresh) Superman. All the origin crap has been done already.

I see what you're saying, but in order to do that (do it well anyway) they'd have to get the Smallville cast to reprise their roles. I would bet money on Tom not wanting part in that and Michael is already gone. I'm sure you could get Erica, Aaron, and probably even Annette (Do you know why she was written off? I haven't seen her in anything since her final episode, so it's not like she's got some busy career.) back. But you'd have to do some re-casting, and I think they might as well just make a sequel to Superman Returns then.

[Spirited Away]

Not if they continue the series through a new comic book series.

[Tornado]

Not if they continue the series through a new comic book series.

I'm unfamiliar with how well that worked out for the Buffy franchise, but I don't think Smallville has the fanbase to support something like that. I would probably pick up the first issue as a gauge for how the rest of the series might turn out, but I'd be a bit hesitant about the whole thing.

-----------

Warning, Possible Spoilers Ahead

Anyway, I got to thinking about Season 8 and how they're going to do it. The way the season is shaping up makes me wonder if they're planning a jump in time. No more Lex, no more Lana, possibly no more Chloe, and the introduction of Doomsday; I might be a little taken aback at first, but I wouldn't be too surprised if Season 8 kicks off with a montage of the end of Season 7 and then a title card with "Four Years Later," or something.

It sounds like the last shot of Season 7 might be Lex watching Clark fly away from the Fortress, and I think it would make sense to kick the season off the same way: Clark flying toward a falling plane (more like "Superman: The Movie" than "Superman Returns"). After saving the plane, Clark would land and we'd find out he's working at the Planet (sporting a suit and nerdy glasses, just like he wore in Apocalypse) with Lois and Jimmy. At some point it could be mentioned that Chloe is working with the Justice League (just to sort of write her out for the time being) and Lex is in prison (or has just gone into hiding).

Before Season 7 I claimed I probably wouldn't be tuning in because of my disappointment (at the time) with Season 6. But I did, and it's easily my favorite season thusfar. But I'm not holding onto hope for Season 8. I will watch, I can almost guarantee that. But I would be very surprised if it's even as good as Season 1 or 2. With the departures of Michael and possibly Allison, I'm not sure the show can recover. I hope it can though, I really do.

[Spirited Away]

Smallville is bigger than Buffy. And its based on a comic book series. And its animated spin offs, like Green Arrow and Kara web-series, have been really successful. It justifies a dedicated comic (not that it hasn't had one before).

[Tornado]

Smallville is bigger than Buffy.

Not really, no. The U.S. ratings for both shows are pretty comparable; Smallville's first and second seasons edged out Buffy's, but Buffy's third and fourth beat out Smallville's. And the rest of the seasons are nearly identical. And Buffy was one of the first popular shows on the WB, back before it was semi-popular (by the time Smallville premiered, the WB already had an audience).

And its based on a comic book series.

True, but a lot of people who watch Smallville don't necessarily read comics. I think Buffy's fanbase is more devoted than Smallville's, which is why that comic series is still going on.

And its animated spin offs, like Green Arrow and Kara web-series, have been really successful.

Where did you get that figure? I know some of the people at K-Site are gaga for the Kara Chronicles, but that doesn't mean they're successful. Appealing to a very small demographic, and not even hitting the majority of it isn't successful.

[Spirited Away]

Sprint says so, with 1/3 of its video-using customers downloading them at some point. Surely that means it popular.

[Neverending]

So, tonights episode is new? I missed last week cause of Iron Man. Anything I need to know? Or was last week just a filler.

[Spirited Away]

GONE!

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039168

No doubt about it: Smallville is going to have the biggest shake-up any series has had in recent years.

Erica Durance must be having a field day.

[Spirited Away]

So, tonights episode is new? I missed last week cause of Iron Man. Anything I need to know? Or was last week just a filler.
Last week's wasn't filler. Clark finally visited Krypton albeit shortly and a whole load of other stuff. It was the 150th episode.

Points to note for tonight:

- Lex has the device that might lead to controlling Clark
- Brainiac has done something to Kara
- Lana is still comatosed
- The Government is after Chloe, and Jimmy made a deal with Lex so Chloe isn't arrested.

[Neverending]

GONE!

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039168

No doubt about it: Smallville is going to have the biggest shake-up any series has had in recent years.

Erica Durance must be having a field day.

I have nothing against Lois and Clark: The Early Years. :redface:

Last week's wasn't filler. Clark finally visited Krypton albeit shortly and a whole load of other stuff. It was the 150th episode.

Points to note for tonight:

- Lex has the device that might lead to controlling Clark
- Brainiac has done something to Kara
- Lana is still comatosed
- The Government is after Chloe, and Jimmy made a deal with Lex so Chloe isn't arrested.

I see. I missed most of this season anyway. I'll just try my best to watch as much as I can over the summer.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

My theory on how they are going to make Doomsday work in Season 8 is that he is going to kill Clark in the episode before the series finale and then in the season finale Clark is reborn as Superman and then he and Doomsday has a final showdown for the fate of the Earth.

[Neverending]

My theory on how they are going to make Doomsday work in Season 8 is that he is going to kill Clark in the episode before the series finale and then in the season finale Clark is reborn as Superman and then he and Doomsday has a final showdown for the fate of the Earth.

That would be awesome and a GREAT finale.

[Spirited Away]

Spoilers about Season 8:

These are the new characters, who will be SERIES REGULARS:

DAVIS BLOOME: 26, Charming and handsome. Davis is the new bartender at
the hip Metropolis lounge. Ace of Clubs, where he plays down his smoldering good looks with a self-effacing wit and down-to-earth soulfulness. Despite the ease with which Davis relates to his new friends, he carries with him the long-felt feelings of a perpetual outsider.

Beneath Davis' charismatic, easy going demeanor lies a brooding sense of isolation and insecurity.. When he begins to delve into the haunting mysteries of his true origins, a darker truth begins to emerge, one of blood and serial murders, one of survival and utter destruction--one in which he is forced to confront the true evil inside of him...


TESS: 28, Drop Dead Gorgeous. Determined. Sexy. Vengeful. And with
amped physical strength. While Lex is away, she is in control of his estate and rules it with aggression. She's had intellect and the confidence all her life, though it's obvious she's had some training from Lex, as well. But as much as Lex has helped fortify her power, he is also her biggest weakness.

She harbors an undying devotion to Lex, claiming he saved her life a few years ago. She carries out his wishes with coercion, force, seduction and anything to get what she wants, and no one can resist her beguiling ways. Even Clark Kent. She doesn't remember anything before the day she met Lex. Once she realizes her previous life is buried below the surface, she's desperate to dig it up...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/season8characters.htm

I really like the idea behind Davis: that this regular human discovers he's actually the Devil (well, you get my point). Actually, he is potentially the best new character in ages. Definitely a refreshing change. And no-doubt Lois' new boyfriend.

I like Tess not so much, but I'm guessing she's going to be a supervillain of some sort with powers. Something like super-strength? Dunno, but having a true baddie, blinded by her love for Lex is cool. And I imagine she'll know Clark's secret too, if Lex knows it. This also confirms Lex is either in jail or on the run.

[Tornado]

Sprint says so, with 1/3 of its video-using customers downloading them at some point. Surely that means it popular.

I didn't know that, so I stand corrected.

So, I have to ask: who is going to hang around for Season 8 without Lex and Chloe? I'm probably going to watch the premiere and go from there, but I can't see it being anywhere near the level the show is on right now.

[Spirited Away]

I think the best/worst news is still to come...

I genuinely think they're going to finally rename the series "Metropolis" or something. It now has absolutely NOTHING to do with Smallville anymore (no-more Luthor Mansion or Talon or anything).

There's only the Kent farm. With Clark possibly moving to Metropolis full time (Gough and Millar at some point said that was the plan for the final season), that leaves only Kara running the farm. So it doesn't need that much focus anymore.

Although I see a potential plot: Davis goes beserk after say Lois dumps him, and starts tearing Smallville to pieces. He destroys it. Completely insane. Then he realises he has a problem.

[Neverending]

So, I have to ask: who is going to hang around for Season 8 without Lex and Chloe? I'm probably going to watch the premiere and go from there, but I can't see it being anywhere near the level the show is on right now.

They said season 8 will be more Lois and Clark focused. I think thats a good thing. They need to get past Lana and Chloe and all these minor female characters. Moving Lois up to main female role and focusing on her relationship with Clark is the right direction. Especially if season 8 ends up being the last.

[Spirited Away]

I didn't know that, so I stand corrected.
Actually, I need to correct myself. They said exactly:

"[The Green Arrow mobisodes] got the highest tune-in of all Sprint's entertainment offerings in winter 2007."

not 1/3. No doubt the Kara ones are doing even better though, because they're revealing SO much about Krypton life and culture.

[Tornado]

They said season 8 will be more Lois and Clark focused. I think thats a good thing. They need to get past Lana and Chloe and all these minor female characters. Moving Lois up to main female role and focusing on her relationship with Clark is the right direction. Especially if season 8 ends up being the last.

I agree that the show should focus more on the relationship between Clark and Lois, but that doesn't mean they have to get rid of Chloe (I haven't cared about Lana for several seasons). My primary concern though is the departure of Lex; as much as the show is about Clark's becoming Superman, it's also about Lex's downfall. And now that he's finally reached that point, it's a shame Rosenbaum wanted out as I think next season had the potential to be one of the best.

[Neverending]

Next week's season finale may be the best. Sure it isn't as epic as some in the past but it pretty much serves as a finale of the MAIN stories that were being told over the past seven seasons. Now, I know why Gough and Millar are leaving. Thats it. It's pretty much over. Clark and Lex fight at the fortress. Sounds like a finale to me.

[Tornado]

Next week's looks great; I'm anxious to find out how Clark and Lex can fight without Clark immediately killing him. ;)

Tonight's episode was alright, the last ten minutes were pretty good though.

[Neverending]

Next week's looks great; I'm anxious to find out how Clark and Lex can fight without Clark immediately killing him. ;)

The same way Clark can have sex with Lois and not...you know. :redface:

[Tornado]

The same way Clark can have sex with Lois and not...you know. :redface:

:funny: As funny as that is, that's not a fair comparison. Clark only has two modes: shoving people into a wall, or he could kill the person. Either way they're not getting up, so I wonder if Lex will get powers/Clark will lose his in the finale.

[Neverending]

Clark only has two modes: shoving people into a wall, or he could kill the person. Either way they're not getting up, so I wonder if Lex will get powers/Clark will lose his in the finale.

Knowing Smallville this is what will happen. Lex will attack Clark. He'll refuse to fight so he'll just keep getting out of the way. Then he'll say, "screw it" and knock Lex out with one punch. The punch will be so powerful that it damages Lex's memory and forgets everything. The End.

[Spirited Away]

Just saw the trailer for the finale. I think I've worked bits out, and how all the new stuff fits in with what we know already:

My theory: Chloe knows she's going to jail, so decides to be a martyr and cures Lana's condition. But as Brainiac said, there is no cure, so it transfers to Chloe. That's how they're writing her out of the series, and the drama for the S8 premiere comes from Clark wanting revenge. He is tortured, as his best friend is "gone" because of his actions.

I think Lana's scenes are of her saying she's leaving Smallville, and purposely not telling Clark, because although she loves him, she spent the last 5 months paralyzed in a "coma" state. It turns out she felt it and was completely conscious during it. Side-note: when she does finally return in S8, she'll reveal she has been staying with Pete.

And I think the final scene just before the final cliffhanger shot is the Lois/Clark hug. I think Clark realises that for the first time in his life, he has no-one: Lana is gone, Chloe is in a coma and Kara is locked away in the Phantom Zone. Lois realises she's in the same boat, and jumps at him and tells him they have each other, even though she doesn't know his secret. I hope the scene has dramatic weight, because if the producers play their cards right, it should set-up their new closer relationship for Season 8.

Then, my bet for the final shot, is Clark finally learns how to fly. He says aloud that Brainiac has no-where left to hide, and we see him jet off into the sky (like the final shot of the opening credits).

[Neverending]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/MELANIEMM/arctic6.jpg

[Neverending]

Chloe knows she's going to jail, so decides to be a martyr and cures Lana's condition. But as Brainiac said, there is no cure, so it transfers to Chloe. That's how they're writing her out of the series, and the drama for the S8 premiere comes from Clark wanting revenge. He is tortured, as his best friend is "gone" because of his actions.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9576/arc13mo6.jpg

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Well according to rumors, Doomsday's character is going to be completely ruined. What could've been Smallville's scariest villain is going to be a lovey dovey mess.

[Neverending]

Well according to rumors, Doomsday's character is going to be completely ruined. What could've been Smallville's scariest villain is going to be a lovey dovey mess.

The horror. :(

[Spirited Away]

OMFG! Way too much news and gossip to digest this early in the week.

Season 8

Possibly only 13 episodes.

No Chloe.

Lana is back full time.

Reduced or no Kara.

Clark and Lois get much closer.

Doomsday casting sides reveal he threatens Lois if she reveals his identity.

Most importantly, it's possibly not the last season. There was zero mention of it being so at the CW upfront.

Crazy. Although I like the idea of it being 13 episodes to wrap everything up. I smell a sequel series!

[King_of_Skid_Row]

I'm not liking this Doomsday. No sir.

[Spirited Away]

I was a bit undecided, but not any more.

I like how they've Hulk-ified him. They've actually made Doomsday a bit like Nikki from Heroes Season 1. When Davis wakes up, he is covered in blood and body bits and ****.

But unlike Nikki, Davis seems to kill innocent civilians.

[Neverending]

Possibly only 13 episodes.

I highly doubt that. The show is on the networks fall schedule. So, unless Smallville will end its season in December or January I highly doubt it will only be 13 episodes.

[FVD]

I was a bit undecided, but not any more.

I like how they've Hulk-ified him. They've actually made Doomsday a bit like Nikki from Heroes Season 1. When Davis wakes up, he is covered in blood and body bits and ****.

But unlike Nikki, Davis seems to kill innocent civilians.

So this Doomsday will be a little like Abomination then. ;)

It'll be sad when Chloe goes. I look forward to Clark and Lois moving a little closer. And come on let's see Clark FLY you fools. :D

[Spirited Away]

So this Doomsday will be a little like Abomination then. ;)
Except he's gay.

[Tornado]

OMFG! Way too much news and gossip to digest this early in the week.

Season 8

Possibly only 13 episodes.

No Chloe.

Lana is back full time.

Reduced or no Kara.

Clark and Lois get much closer.

Doomsday casting sides reveal he threatens Lois if she reveals his identity.

Most importantly, it's possibly not the last season. There was zero mention of it being so at the CW upfront.

Crazy. Although I like the idea of it being 13 episodes to wrap everything up. I smell a sequel series!

Almost all of that is bad news. :(

[Dan's_Gurl]

there really shouldn't be a question of episode numbers at this point. all the other shows know their numbers. I think something would've been said at Upfronts if the season was shortened.

[Spirited Away]

From what I gather, the series is airing in two blocks: Part 1 in autumn and Part 2 in spring, with Reaper airing during winter.

The head of the CW said Season 8 isn't necessarily the last, so I'm guessing they'll base whether the show will continue on how well the first half does.

If it's still popular and "fresh", we're gonna get a Season 9. Or a Season 1. Depends, really...

[Neverending]

Dude, we're not getting a Metropolis show. Its not gonna happen. End of story. IF we do get any sort of spin-off it'll either be Super Girl, Green Arrow, or Justice League. And I even doubt that since they completely bailed on that Aquaman show.

[Tornado]

Dude, we're not getting a Metropolis show. Its not gonna happen. End of story. IF we do get any sort of spin-off it'll either be Super Girl, Green Arrow, or Justice League. And I even doubt that since they completely bailed on that Aquaman show.

Quoted for truth. I'd be willing to bet the farm that if they were to announce a "Metropolis" show, Tom would not sign on. And if Tom were to not sign on, the show would just be another Superman TV show, and I don't think it could really be considered a Smallville spin-off then.

But I agree with Neverending on the possibility of a Supergirl show (or knowing the CW's history, at least a pilot and proposal). From what I've seen she has been pretty popular with the fans, and I think most of those people would tune in for a while anyway (I'm sure I would at least watch the pilot and the first couple of episodes).

[Dan's_Gurl]

Metropolis is not going to happen. i really think that Tom is ready to move on. The Green Arrow spin off could be a possibility. They keep putting Justin Hartely in pilots that fall through and mid season replacements. seriously, every year. first Aquaman, this past year 8 Days A Week was supposed to be a mid season replacement (i guess they didn't want to air new stuff during a writer's strike :rolleyes:), this year there was some medical drama that didn't make the fall lineup so i'm assuming it was dropped. So it wouldn't surprise me if they once again tried to give him a pilot.

[Spirited Away]

The CW woman confirmed that there could be more seasons. That means Tom Welling is potentially still interested in playing Clark. That makes him playing Superman even more likely.

[Neverending]

From what I've seen she has been pretty popular with the fans

I wonder why ;)

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh307/juanvelaz21/96854_laura_vandervoort_l4_122_591l.jpg

[Spirited Away]

Season Finale spoilers!

It just aired in Canada. Look on K-Site for more info, but basically Lex puts his purple ball thing into the Fortress computer and the FoS destroys itself, with both Lex and Clark still inside.

Some of the shots from the trailer weren't even in the episode, like Lex looking up into the sky, suggesting that MR will feature in the Season 8 premiere's opening scene, and that Clark will fly next season.

Some people have mixed feelings about the episode. And Kristen Kreuk's scenes were shot in Thailand. And her relationship with Clark is over.

Jimmy and Chloe got engaged. Just before the Feds arrest her.

And Clark finally killed Brainiac. Actually KILLED with malicious intent.

[Neverending]

Why the heck did the finale already air in Cananda. :mad: Well, anyway, I expect to see the episode on YouTube within the hour.

[Neverending]

speak of the devil

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[Spirited Away]

Why the heck did the finale already air in Cananda. :mad: Well, anyway, I expect to see the episode on YouTube within the hour.
Canada always gets Smallville a day before the US.

[Neverending]

Canada always gets Smallville a day before the US.

:mad:

[Tornado]

The CW woman confirmed that there could be more seasons. That means Tom Welling is potentially still interested in playing Clark. That makes him playing Superman even more likely.

Tom has said on multiple occasions he has no interest in playing Superman.

And, maybe there is a God after all:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039677

[King_of_Skid_Row]

This should not surpass the 8th Season. It should end now. I'm sick of Clark delaying becoming Superman. It's rediculous. End it and make a Metropolis TV movie.

[FVD]

Yay Chloe's staying. Fantastic news. Smallville would not exist as Smallville as we know it without the lovely Allison Mack.

[Spirited Away]

So much for "Lois and Clark: The Early Years". The finale even set it up.

[Neverending]

These Smallville teasers are starting to piss me off. One, two, and even three teasers is fine but c'mon...just end the damn thing. Jesus. For starters, the finale wasn't even all that great. The focus of the episode should have been Lex going to the Fortress. Instead, they handled it like a friggin' sub-plot. There was to much focus on nonsense like Jimmy and Chloe and fake Kara etc. I'll admit the Brainiac stuff was cool. Especially that "fight" scene. But the episode should have just been Lex, Clark, and Fortress. Thats it.

[Tornado]

There goes the staff, tearing apart the Superman continuity by destroying the Fortress of Solitude. Christ. He better re-build it/get a new one (somehow) within the first couple of episodes of Season 8, or that's probably going to be it for me. I'm just tired of all this nonsense with the Veritas group, Brainiac repeatedly dying and coming back (I understand it's part of his character, don't lecture me on Superman lore), and the possibility that Lex might be dead (he's not coming back on the show, and he was likely crushed underneath one of the ice blocks). I thought this was easily the worst finale, but this was a long time coming: Smallville has lost its way.

6/10

[Neverending]

I thought this was easily the worst finale

I agree. Last seasons finale was pretty lackluster as well, but this one was supposed to be epic. Lex at the fortress. C'mon. How can these people screw this up. :mad::nono:

[Spirited Away]

IMO Veritas should have been the true finale.

But looks like MR will be in the Season 8 premiere, because MR's last shot filmed was of him looking up into the sky (presumably as Clark flies away). He didn't do that in the episode, so they must be saving it for next year (like how they filmed a fair bit of the Season 7 premiere during Season 6).

And of course the Fortress will be back. They're probably building a new set for it (alongside the new Metropolis neighbourhood they've built).

It's a shame Gough and Millar didn't finish their run on a high. Their finale was rather dull.

[Tornado]

IMO Veritas should have been the true finale.

Yeah, probably. They should've re-written Veritas to include Clark flying and Lex winding up in the Fortress somehow, and just end the season there.

But looks like MR will be in the Season 8 premiere, because MR's last shot filmed was of him looking up into the sky (presumably as Clark flies away). He didn't do that in the episode, so they must be saving it for next year (like how they filmed a fair bit of the Season 7 premiere during Season 6).

Actually he did. Maybe it wasn't the shot they were referring to, but Lex did stare up into the sky as the camera pulled away (he was cradling Clark at the very end).

[Neverending]

It's a shame Gough and Millar didn't finish their run on a high. Their finale was rather dull.

Yup. I guess they didn't care.

[Tornado]

I uhh... I'm going to take a shot at my own version of a script for Arctic. I'll take into account all of the events leading up to the episode, but several things will be re-written (made better).

[Darth Maul]

wow, I guess i was the only one who thought the finale wasn't that horrible. :P

[Neverending]

wow, I guess i was the only one who thought the finale wasn't that horrible. :P

Yes, yes you were.

[Darth Maul]

Yes, yes you were.

:/ i will agree that the final face off between lex and clark could have been alot more epic. But aren't they bringing alot of crazy **** next season?

[Neverending]

I just hope Rosenbaum shot footage for the season premiere. I mean, it'll be dumb if the new season premieres and Lex just disappears.

[Darth Maul]

I just hope Rosenbaum shot footage for the season premiere. I mean, it'll be dumb if the new season premieres and Lex just disappears.

agreed. Im assuming he will make cameos here and there but not be a regular.

[Tornado]

I just hope Rosenbaum shot footage for the season premiere. I mean, it'll be dumb if the new season premieres and Lex just disappears.

The only way I could see it working is if they do a "3 Months Later..." storyline; Clark and Lex made it out OK, and after Lex healed he just disappeared off the map because he felt so betrayed by Clark or something. I don't know, but I do know my version won't be ending like that.

[Darth Maul]

The only way I could see it working is if they do a "3 Months Later..." storyline; Clark and Lex made it out OK, and after Lex healed he just disappeared off the map because he felt so betrayed by Clark or something. I don't know, but I do know my version won't be ending like that.

that or lex goes off to do his thing and work on his empire.

[Neverending]

Or maybe he's assumed to have been killed by the Fortress falling on him. Then, we find out during the season 8 finale that he's still alive.

[Darth Maul]

Or maybe he's assumed to have been killed by the Fortress falling on him. Then, we find out during the season 8 finale that he's still alive.

That could work, but i think tornado hit on the nose with the 3 months later. I think it would be awkward for some reason to wait a whole season to see if lex was alright.

[Dan's_Gurl]

wow, I guess i was the only one who thought the finale wasn't that horrible. :P
i didn't think it was too bad either (but i also don't have high expectations for Smallville anymore).

[Tornado]

i didn't think it was too bad either (but i also don't have high expectations for Smallville anymore).

That may be the case, but it was still a season finale, and it was the final episode under the creators (Gough and Millar). They should have done a lot better.

[Spirited Away]

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Tv-Mattrs/Smallville-Exclusive-News/800039842

Again, they've lost the plot. Unless of course they're giving her like an 8 episode arc, towards the end of the season, where she's been completely ****ed up by the Phantom Zone.

What a horrible way to say goodbye to a cast member. They haven't even told the actress if they want her back.

[Tornado]

Why even bother with a Season 8 after all this? Kara was one of the best decisions the show has made in the past couple of seasons in my opinion, and I don't know why they wouldn't bring her back. She certainly seemed open to the idea in the link Spirited posted, but they've just gone ahead and decided to screw the pooch again. I just can't get over how many changes the show is going through between two seasons:

- no Lex (this move will be the downfall of the series; it'll be similar to how The X-Files lost Mulder)
- no Lana (this... doesn't bother me that much)
- no/even less Kara (one of the biggest mistakes they could've made)
- bringing on Doomsday, in human form (words can't do this justice)
- bringing on Tess (who I assume is supposed to be Miss Teschmacher), and then giving her superpowers

The only upside I can see to these changes is that there will be fewer distractions for Clark, meaning the show might be able to get back to his own journey. I loved Seasons 5-7, but the show had been gradually drifting away from its most important point over those seasons as well.

[Scorpio82]

On a better show, this year's season finale would've been the mid-season finale. But then it seems to fit with the whole "anti-climatic" theme they've been going with this season. Anyone who leaves the show doesn't even get a proper send-off anymore.

I think the only reason I watch this show anymore is because I'm waiting for it to get better. But I'm guessing that by the beginning of season 8, Clark will be back to his old self and ready spend a whole new season sitting around like an idiot at the farm, not flying, and talking on his new Sprint phone. And Lex will probably be unconscious somewhere.

[Neverending]

The only upside I can see to these changes is that there will be fewer distractions for Clark, meaning the show might be able to get back to his own journey. I loved Seasons 5-7, but the show had been gradually drifting away from its most important point over those seasons as well.

As long as Clark stops being a cry baby I may actually enjoy season 8.

[WuTical]

OMFG! Way too much news and

Crazy. Although I like the idea of it being 13 episodes to wrap everything up. I smell a sequel series!Season 8 is 22 episodes

this has already been confirmed

[Spirited Away]

The Battlestar Galactica Season 4 order was originally confirmed for only 13 episodes. Then 20. Then 22. Now it's possibly getting another 6.

Episode orders change all the time. Especially on The CW.

Gossip Girl is the best example: Season 1 originally 13 eps. Then 22. Because of strike, back to 13. Then 5 more ordered, to make 18. Then the CW ordered a 22 episode Season 2. That's now changed to 24.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

if they could get rid of all the filler episodes, then i wouldnt mind a 13 episode season.

[Tolkien]

Why even bother with a Season 8 after all this? Kara was one of the best decisions the show has made in the past couple of seasons in my opinion, and I don't know why they wouldn't bring her back. She certainly seemed open to the idea in the link Spirited posted, but they've just gone ahead and decided to screw the pooch again. I just can't get over how many changes the show is going through between two seasons:

- no Lex (this move will be the downfall of the series; it'll be similar to how The X-Files lost Mulder)
- no Lana (this... doesn't bother me that much)
- no/even less Kara (one of the biggest mistakes they could've made)
- bringing on Doomsday, in human form (words can't do this justice)
- bringing on Tess (who I assume is supposed to be Miss Teschmacher), and then giving her superpowers

The only upside I can see to these changes is that there will be fewer distractions for Clark, meaning the show might be able to get back to his own journey. I loved Seasons 5-7, but the show had been gradually drifting away from its most important point over those seasons as well.
I have to agree with everything that you've just said, except for;

- no Lana (this... doesn't bother me that much)

This, to me, is the best thing they've ever done for the show. :)


But yeah, I have to admit, this is the second lamest finale yet. Last season being the first.

[Neverending]

this is the second lamest finale yet. Last season being the first.

Last season can be forgiven, but not this one. This was supposed to be epic. You have Lex in the fortress as well as Rosenbaums last episode as a regular.

[Tornado]

I have to agree with everything that you've just said, except for;

- no Lana (this... doesn't bother me that much)

This, to me, is the best thing they've ever done for the show. :)

Then we do agree on everything. When I said it doesn't bother me very much, I meant to say "This is a great move." ;)

It's not that I dislike the character of Lana (even though I do), it's that she really is holding back Clark, and I'd like to see him at least acting like Superman by series end.

[EnderDeschain]

At first I thought critics were being too harsh. I was a little disappointed in the finale, but then I tried to look at it objectively and consider what had just happened. Lex Luthor, fully aware of who and what Clark is, came face to face with him in the Fortress, with the power to change the world in his hand. Then he brought the Fortress down. Lex, the same one who was mooning over Lana two or three seasons ago, riding the good guy / bad guy fence, pulling Clark out of collapsing tunnels and ****, and not really the bad-ass that he should be. He just brought down the f’n Fortress on top of Clark’s head (and his own, but you see what I'm sayin'). A while back the idea of that happening seemed highly unlikely, something I could only wish for. So looked at a certain way, I thought, this wasn’t so disappointing after all.

Then I read the last few pages of this thread. I didn’t know Lex wasn’t coming back. I’d read something a couple months ago about him and Lana having reduced roles in season 8, I could have swore there was even mention of 13-episode contracts for each of them, but apparently a lot’s changed since then. Lana’s absence doesn’t matter much, but one of the most intriguing things about this finale and it’s saving grace, for me, was holy crap where are they gonna go with this now? Evidently the answer is far away from Lex, which sucks to the Nth degree.

I would like to have a little bit of faith in the creative team, but I really don’t see anything making up for Lex’s departure. The way I see it, this has been his show for quite some time now, I just can’t see it working without him. At all.

And oh yeah, if "Veritas" had been the finale, then we wouldn't have got "Descent", which I thought was the best episode of the season.

[Dan's_Gurl]

they really should have done a better job of writing off Lex. Rosenbaum didn't spring this news on them. I was looking at videos on youtube and he was saying at the beginning of season 6 that 7 would be it for him. He wanted to grow his hair again. Same goes for Kristin (minus the growing her hair again thing), though i do think that they did a good job with writing her out and having Lois rush to Clark's side.

[Neverending]

He just brought down the f’n Fortress on top of Clark’s head (and his own, but you see what I'm sayin').

I didn’t know Lex wasn’t coming back.

Right there is the biggest problem with the finale. Had Lex been a part of season 8 then the finale would have been alright. But since he isn't it just made a lackluster finale.

[an4rew]

I'm gonna miss Lex... the ratings might bomb next season.

[Spirited Away]

It doesn't matter anyway.

New rumours say it looks like the Smallville Series Finale will be December 11, 2008. The CW will probably confirm this in the coming weeks.

Reaper will then take over the Smallville slot until May 7, 2009. It looks like the only reason Reaper got renewed was because Smallville is wrapping things up early with only 13 episodes.

[Tornado]

Good. I've been a fan of this show for a long time, but they don't seem to be progressively moving closer to Superman and I think it's time the show wraps things up.

Also, it'll be nice to have a season without any breaks, because with only 13 episodes it seems likely they'll begin airing in mid/late September and then close out on 12/11.

[Spirited Away]

Apparently The CW wasn't even 100% sure there would be a Season 8, hence no "To Be Continued" at the end of S7.

[Neverending]

Yea, season 8 should be the last. And 13 episodes sound great cause it means no fillers.

However...

now we can assume why Gough and Millar left. They probably wanted a 24 episode season with options for a season 9.

[Spirited Away]

Scrap my last two posts, it looks like it'll be 22 episodes after all.

Season 8 is just being split into two parts, hence why it was misunderstood as a 13-episode season. Part 1 will air in Autumn finishing on December 11, and Part 2 in Spring, with Reaper filling the gaps in-between.

I guess they'll decide on whether there will be a Season 9 in December.

[Tornado]

Well, hopefully the second half of Season 8 is just Clark becoming/training to become Superman.

[Neverending]

Reaper wasn't a hit for CW, but it had a loyal audience. So...I guess this is their way of giving the show a second chance. I have yet to watch Reaper, but I guess I'll check it out.

[boydston_14]

I'm sincerely hoping that the CW doesn't try to renew the show for a 9th season, but someone mentioned to me that if Tom chooses not to renew his contract, there will be no worries. After season 7 I'm kind of wondering where to from here, because many of the characters are gone next season and they need to hurry up and have Clark truly accept his destiny. All this being said I actually thought season 7 was pretty entertaining, though not the best season this show has put out.

[Spirited Away]

New nuggets of info:

- Justin Hartley (Green Arrow) is finally joining the cast as a series regular, for either 13 or 22 episodes. His story arc will deal with his past.

- Kristen Kreuk is only in 6 or 7 episodes

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=209ae407-79c9-42aa-9248-8e5a3d4341e6

I'm very much surprised about Green Arrow being a main character, especially with WB developing a theatrical film based around him. But it'll surely lead to more Justice League stuff, which is always good in my books.

And if WB are relaxed about Green Arrow, they're probably going to be more relaxed in general, tights and all.

[Neverending]

- Justin Hartley (Green Arrow) is finally joining the cast as a series regular, for either 13 or 22 episodes. His story arc will deal with his past.

Fantastic.

- Kristen Kreuk is only in 6 or 7 episodes

6 or 7 episodes too many.

[Dan's_Gurl]

YES! Justin Hartley! it's about time!

[Tornado]

Well, there's been a fair amount of news in the past couple of days.

The New Cast Members: The Official Press Release!
The CW has issued an official press release about the additions of Sam Witwer and Cassidy Freeman to Smallville's eighth season. The release incudes some new details about the characters - including a last name for Tess and a new job for the erstwhile "Doomtender!"

And here it is:

“SMALLVILLE” BRACES FOR ARRIVAL OF NEW VILLAINS

Sam Witwer (“Battlestar Galactica”) and Cassidy Freeman (“Finishing the Game”) Join Cast of Hit Series for Eighth Season This Fall

BURBANK, Calif. (June 19, 2008) – Rocked by the mysterious death of Lionel Luthor and the sudden disappearance of his son, Lex, the town of Smallville will be put further on edge this fall with the arrival of two new villains, as Sam Witwer (“Battlestar Galactica”) and Cassidy Freeman (“Finishing the Game: The Search for a New Bruce Lee”) join the cast of “Smallville” (Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW) as series regulars for the hit show’s eighth season.

Witwer will play Davis Bloome, a charismatic Metropolis paramedic who – when he isn’t saving people – is forced to confront a burgeoning darkness inside of him that just might be a harbinger of doom.

Freeman will play Tess Mercer. Handpicked by Lex Luthor to succeed him before he vanished, Tess arrives in Smallville as acting CEO of LuthorCorp. Beneath her mysterious allure lies a cunning ruthlessness to match her mentor’s.

“We’re thrilled that Sam and Cassidy will be joining the cast, and we have some very exciting things in store for them, their characters and ‘Smallville’ fans for this season,” said executive producers Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer in a joint statement. “They are both incredibly talented performers, and we cannot wait to begin to work with them.”

Best known for his role as Alex “Crashdown” Quartararo on the acclaimed series “Battlestar Galactica,” Witwer is also featured in the forthcoming “Star Wars: The Force Unleashed” video game. His previous credits include “Stephen King’s The Mist” (written and directed by Frank Darabont) and guest-starring roles on a number of series, including “Dexter,” “Cold Case,” “Enterprise,” “Angel,” “Dark Angel” and “ER,” among many others.

Freeman previously appeared in the feature film “Finishing the Game: The Search for a New Bruce Lee,” which debuted at the prestigious Sundance Film Festival in 2007. Her other television and motion picture credits include a guest-starring role on “Cold Case,” the made-for-television movie “An Accidental Christmas,” the independent film “Shades of Gray,” and shorts “Clock” and “Razor Sharp,” among others.

From Tollin/Robbins Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television, “Smallville” is executive produced by Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

Witwer:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/samwit2.jpg

Freeman:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/2-lg.jpg

Also, the premiere for Season 8 is titled Odyssey.

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I'm glad Doomsday won't be a bartender, but it's going to take more than that for me to get excited about this show again.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

It's Starkiller :D !!! Yay!!!

[Tornado]

Starkiller? What's that?

[King_of_Skid_Row]

The main character of The Force Unleashed. He is Dath Vader's secret apprentice. The story takes place between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars A New Hope. George Lucas himself is helping on the project.

[Neverending]

Freeman:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/2-lg.jpg

Really? Damn. This show has always had good eye candy, but she's seems like nothing special. Hope she has a rockin' bod.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

She kind of looks like a young Miss Tess.

[Spirited Away]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

- The Season Premiere is called 'Odyssey'
- Clark works at the Daily Planet now
- Confirmed: very much Lois and Clark

[Neverending]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

- The Season Premiere is called 'Odyssey'
- Clark works at the Daily Planet now
- Confirmed: very much Lois and Clark

Those are all good things.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Finally he's working :D !!! Yay!!! Clark Kent is working :D !!!!!

[Tornado]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

- The Season Premiere is called 'Odyssey'
- Clark works at the Daily Planet now
- Confirmed: very much Lois and Clark

All awesome.

[Neverending]

All awesome.

Season 8 has potential to be the best.

[Tornado]

Season 8 has potential to be the best.

We'll see.

Also, some new spoilers from K-Site about the premiere, none of them are really spoilerish:

The new season begins several months after the events of the Season 7 finale.
- Casting is currently underway for "Kat," a young, eager assistant for Tess, who also makes her first appearance in this episode; and "Nikolai," a man who works on a boat with Clark near the Arctic. Roles also now being cast include a Researcher, a Scientist, and a Guard.
- Clark is brought home by some possibly-surprising rescuers.
- Oliver Queen (Justin Hartley) returns in this episode.

[Spirited Away]

- Clark is brought home by some possibly-surprising rescuers.

Justice League, no doubt. Allison Mack said Season 8 will have more characters than you can shake a stick at (well, not literally, but you get the point).

[Tornado]

It seems pretty likely that Oliver will be the one to rescue Clark.

But yeah, it also seems likely we'll see the Justice League again this year.

[Dan's_Gurl]

yay justice league! i loved justice. that was one of the best episodes of last season.

[Neverending]

It seems pretty likely that Oliver will be the one to rescue Clark.

It's still a little confusing though. What exactly happened. So...Luthor destroyed the Fortress...and?

[Alien]

Really? Damn. This show has always had good eye candy, but she's seems like nothing special. Hope she has a rockin' bod.
Are we looking at the same girl?

[Alien]

It seems pretty likely that Oliver will be the one to rescue Clark.

But yeah, it also seems likely we'll see the Justice League again this year.
Why does Clark need rescued? What happened in the final again?

Why am I doing blackouts?

[Neverending]

Why does Clark need rescued?

Because Lex Luthor destroyed his home. :confused:

[WuTical]

Season 8 has potential to be the best.

We say that every year though. Hopefully since this should be the last season, they will stop bsing around. Let Clark fly. They SLOWLY started a flirtation with Lois and Clark. Let Clark work at the paper. Let's get this started.

[Tornado]

Title for 802: PLASTIQUE

Sounds kind of lame.

[Tornado]

Some fairly big news today:

801 Odyssey:

TV Guide has answered several of the questions about who might be saving Clark, and some new tidbits:
- Clark's rescuers will be none other than the Justice League. Expect to see not only Justin Hartley as the Green Arrow; Alan Ritchson will be returning as Aquaman, Alaina Huffman is back as the Black Canary, and Phil Morris makes his return as John Jones, the Martian Manhunter.
- The magazine also reveals what Clark's surprise is for Lois: He's taking the job at the Daily Planet, right acros from her desk. "This season's theme is 'double identities'," executive producer Kelly Souders told TV Guide. "It's about the Superman identity emerging as Clark Kent tries to maintain a normal life — or the appearance of a normal life."
- "The cameraderie as they work side-by-side that everyone loves from the DC Comics and all the Superman lore is going to come to fruition this year," Souders continues. "The two of them are thrown together in some unfortunate situations for Clark. She becomes a little bit of an obstacle to him saving the world, when he's on a deadline."

802 Plastique:

This episode will explore Clark's first day on his new job and his teaming with Lois.
- The character of paramedic Davis Bloom makes his first appearance in this episode, and he interacts primarily with Chloe.

Sounds pretty great! Maybe there is a little hope for this season after all.

[WuTical]

can't wait for the first episode

[Neverending]

Some fairly big news today:

801 Odyssey:

TV Guide has answered several of the questions about who might be saving Clark, and some new tidbits:
- Clark's rescuers will be none other than the Justice League. Expect to see not only Justin Hartley as the Green Arrow; Alan Ritchson will be returning as Aquaman, Alaina Huffman is back as the Black Canary, and Phil Morris makes his return as John Jones, the Martian Manhunter.
- The magazine also reveals what Clark's surprise is for Lois: He's taking the job at the Daily Planet, right acros from her desk. "This season's theme is 'double identities'," executive producer Kelly Souders told TV Guide. "It's about the Superman identity emerging as Clark Kent tries to maintain a normal life — or the appearance of a normal life."
- "The cameraderie as they work side-by-side that everyone loves from the DC Comics and all the Superman lore is going to come to fruition this year," Souders continues. "The two of them are thrown together in some unfortunate situations for Clark. She becomes a little bit of an obstacle to him saving the world, when he's on a deadline."

802 Plastique:

This episode will explore Clark's first day on his new job and his teaming with Lois.
- The character of paramedic Davis Bloom makes his first appearance in this episode, and he interacts primarily with Chloe.

Sounds pretty great! Maybe there is a little hope for this season after all.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

[Dan's_Gurl]

sounds cool

[Tornado]

So... it sounds like Clark might be sporting a beard in Odyssey. It'd be a nice touch if we see him shaving with his heat vision and a reflective piece of metal or something.

[Tornado]

Season 8 Premiere Date: September 18, 2008

The July 14 issue of TV Guide magazine (hitting newsstands today) has their annual Sci-Fi preview, and along with some information that we've already seen on the magazine's website, they also reveal the premiere date for Smallville Season 8.

When can we look forward to the show's return? It's a little over two months away. Look for it on September 18.

[Dan's_Gurl]

please god, let Supernatural premiere the same day.

[Jason Krueger]

eh man the premiere sounds good, but will this be another season filled with weird episodes?

[Tornado]

Title for 803: TOXIC.

[Spirited Away]

http://www.newsarama.com/tv/080714-smallville-swimmer.html

New producers, new stories, new characters, new dynamics. It also sounds like the CW is going to wait on deciding if Smallville is wrapping up with Season 8. If the show really changes into something fresh, and opinion is positive, I think we might see a season 9 (or a sequel series).

They've already mapped the entire season out, and all evidence suggests they've not approached it as a series ender. It feels more like a re-launch.

[Neverending]

It feels more like a re-launch.

Interesting...

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Re-launch...meaning...reboot :D !!!!!!

[Tornado]

:rolleyes:

They're not going to re-boot a show that's already been on the air for seven years.

[Spirited Away]

New info for "Toxic":

It is Oliver-centric, and oddly enough, it continues one of Season 7's better episodes ("Action") - the Warrior Angel movie is finally being released.

Which explains the cinema set they've built at Smallville Studios (they've built an entire Metropolis neighbourhood, presumably where Clark and Lois live, but the cinema seemed excessive). Wanna bet Christina Milian will be returning?
http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

[Spirited Away]

They're not going to re-boot a show that's already been on the air for seven years.
I think they'll approach it so new viewers can start watching from the Season 8 premiere, because at the end of the day it's all to do with that shocking report a few weeks ago:

Average age of the CW's audience = 22 years old
Average age of Smallville's audience = 38 years old

This is obviously a major problem, as the network seriously tries to reach the youngest audience possible. So unless they're prepared to let advertisers promote products for older audiences (like prescription drugs, insurance, banking, etc.), they need younger viewers, desperately. By comparison, Gossip Girl's average audience is around 17 years old, which is over half SV's.

[Tornado]

Right. I had actually typed out a much longer response, but I decided to hell with it. Basically what I had said was that the show will feel like a new one, more like "Lois and Clark" than the "Smallville" we've gotten used to. But that's not a re-boot, that's more of a... re-birth, I suppose.

[Dan's_Gurl]

rebirth, reboot, relaunch. i don't care what you call it. it sounds like it's going to get better. that's all i care about.

[Jason Krueger]

They better be better, I didn't watch the last two seasons because I didn't feel like they were up to par with others and I don't even know what that mean but it seems to fit here.

To me season 3 was the best.

[Spirited Away]

From a technical stand-point, it is a re-birth. The show has dropped using film. It's now shot entirely on HD, which is pretty cool. It means they can shoot more stuff, because HD is quicker to set-up. But it also means a completely new look and tone.

No more of those warm, fireplace scenes we've come to love, like Lex's fireplace or Clark's kitchen. :(

[Spirited Away]

They better be better, I didn't watch the last two seasons because I didn't feel like they were up to par with others and I don't even know what that mean but it seems to fit here.
I don't think you'll really like Season 8 then. It takes seasons 5, 6 and 7, and pumps them with steroids.

[Tornado]

Maybe I'm unfamiliar with HD-protocol, why won't we have any more Lex's study/Clark's kitchen scenes? I can't imagine they would've torn those sets down, anyway.

[Spirited Away]

Maybe I'm unfamiliar with HD-protocol, why won't we have any more Lex's study/Clark's kitchen scenes?
No, of course we'll still get scenes set in those locations, but the way they used to be lit (they had this warm, fuzzy glow to them) won't come back. HD is digital video, which processes colours and light completely differently to film stock. So naturally, the show's colour palette will have to change.

HD generally has a colder, sharper - and harsher - look to it. It looks "blue-er" than regular film. Battlestar Galactica, Star Wars Episode III and Superman Returns are all on HD - and they all have that blue tone to them. Smallville has gone down the same route: it's going to look very pristine and crisp, which translates into "cold".

EDIT: Changing a production from film to HD is an expensive process, as it requires getting completely new gear, changing sets, and tonnes of other ****. You usually don't make the leap over unless you're planning on sticking around for a few years more (even Lost decided not to transition into HD, because it's "near" the end). So I'm now 100% certain we will be getting a Season 9 or a sequel series.

[Tornado]

Ah, that makes sense. And yeah, if it's as big of a deal as you're making it out to be, then a 9th season or a new show is seeming more and more likely. I'm sure Tom and co. would come back for a 9th season, but I hope that if they decide to create a new show TPTB could get the entire cast back.

[unity768]

I've been a huge Smallville fan ever since the pilot aired on the WB..but doesn't anyone else think they should end it after this 8th season coming up. I mean, they've really jumped the shark, and my favorite character, Lex, isn't even a regular anymore. However, if it does continue i'll tune in lol.
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[Tornado]

Definitely. I think they should have called it after 7 seasons (not the 7th season we got though, they would've have to re-write the second half), but as long as the show remains at least halfway decent, I guess I don't mind it sticking around.

[Spirited Away]

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Smallville-Preview-1/800043585

It's pretty much confirmed: Smallville won't be finishing anytime soon.

[Neverending]

If the changes during the new season work then I'm in favor of more Smallville. If not, then they should think about ending it.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

They should just end it. Clark is getting very old. Just make him Superman already and create a Superman spinoff.

[Tornado]

His age doesn't have much to do with it; his current attitude is far from that of Superman's. I think the show should end with Season 8, but unless there are significant developments this season he is still going to be a ways off from the Superman we know and love.

And besides, he's only 21. He's not that old.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

The actor is though. Very soon his age is going to show.

[Neverending]

And besides, he's only 21. He's not that old.

The actor is though. Very soon his age is going to show.

True. Tom Welling is like, what, 30?

[Dan's_Gurl]

31. yeah, he passes as younger, but not that young. he's never looked Clark's age though. he looked 22 when the show started and he was supposed to be 16.

[Tornado]

Sure, he looks older than 21, but that doesn't mean he looks 30 either. He still looks like he's in his mid-20's, easy.

[Spirited Away]

he looked 22 when the show started and he was supposed to be 16.
14 (or possibly 15) - Season 1 is set in Ninth Grade.

[Dan's_Gurl]

14 (or possibly 15) - Season 1 is set in Ninth Grade.
like i said, always looked older. none of them looked 15.

[Tornado]

I always bought Sam Jones' age as he does look a little younger than he really is (25 now, 18 when the show premiered).

[Spirited Away]

New updates:

- "No flight, no tights" has been dropped (although there probably won't ever be tights - maybe leather, like in LoSH?)
- Maxima is confirmed, she tries to mate with Clark
- Plastique too (old news)
- Lana's return will be "historic"*
- Martha, Kara and Lex may return at some point, schedule permitting
- Bruce Wayne is still a rights issue, although nothing was mentioned about Wonder Woman!
- Doomsday is going to be re-invented, a la Lex**, and fans are going to be "pleasantly excited"
- They've never thought about introducing the Legion of Super Heroes

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/07/ask-ausiello--1.html
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Smallville-Season-8/800043821&start=15

* I think she's going to be radically different, or (as in Superman continuity) with Pete Ross
** I'm 100% certain TPTB want at least another two or three seasons out of Smallville, so perhaps introducing Doomsday as a human character first, then monster, is the best way to serve the story

[King_of_Skid_Row]

At long last...Superman will be reborn on TV. So Season 8 really is a.....REBOOT :D !!!