Johnny Depp's disappointing statements

[Johnnys Apples]

I am a huge Johnny Depp fan, don't get me wrong, but I feel like his uneducated comments about America were frankly offensive. If he doesn't want to live here, fine, then live in France, but you don't need to act like you know anything about foreign policy and bash America. You are entitled to agree or disagree with the war, but don't be an idiot about it. I felt like Depp was an idiot with his comments:

"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive,"

"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy."

What a prick! Stay the hell in France and don't come back here. If you had lost someone on 9-11 maybe you wouldn't have your head so far up your ass. Johnny Depp is an <b><u>ACTOR</u></b> not a policy analyst. I am sick of lameass under-educated actors and actresses acting like they know what the hell is going on with Iraq. Last I heard, they still weren't privy to special inside information like Bush is, so why should I listen to them over him. I say to Hollywood SHUT THE HELL UP and just make movies. It's time to support our troops, not run away with the job unfinished. Johnny Depp is still a great actor, but now has put himself in with the likes of Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins. These guys need to either shut up or get the hell out, but frankly I don't want to hear from someone who doesn't know jack ***** about what they are saying.

Thanks for letting me rant, now feel free to do the same or disagree or whatever. Just had to get that off my chest though.

[todd philip]

i dont care what he or any actor thinks!

their job is to entertain us, thats it imo!

i dont care about any celebritys personal life!

they dont bother me, i wont bother them.

johnny can think whatever the hell he wants, it's his right.

i will still see and enjoy his movies!

[tedward]

Wow as far as jingoistic rants go that was quite good, I hope all americans dont think like you (Johnnys Apples).

[todd philip]

Well i dont

[scifi guy]

Yeah is job his to entertain us(which he does) his opinions are his alone. We don't need to comment on everything celebrities do or say.

[Johnnys Apples]

tedward: Wow as far as jingoistic rants go that was quite good, I hope all americans dont think like you (Johnnys Apples).


As a matter of fact, there are a lot that do. Is it wrong tedward to think that actors should not use their celebrity status to become jackasses? I still will see the movies with Johnny Depp, as I think he is a very talented actor and I love the roles he plays, but if he comes on my TV with his political ideologies again, I'm turning it off. Don't use your platform of Hollywood to be an ass, that's all we ask.

[_manuel_]

Originally posted by Johnnys Apples
Last I heard, they still weren't privy to special inside information like Bush is, so why should I listen to them over him.

Maybe because Bush tells you only what he wants you to hear, and not what you should hear. Ever thought of that?

[Johnnys Apples]

Of course that's what he does, that's why it's called Top Secret, duh. Personally I don't want to know everything that's going on, I think it could really be a lot worse than anyone thought of and that Iraq was really more necessary than anyone thought. Since none of us really know, especially stupid actors with platforms to run their mouths off, we should all just support our current effort and pray for peace.

[PsYkOoOoO]

thats why i like him...he doesnt care what others think..just say it out loud...

[Hitman]

I could care less about his statements because I believe a lot of his unique performances in movies (POTC, OUATIM, etc.) make up for it anyway.

[cg124]

I don't care about what johnny says off screen. It's what he does on screen that counts to me

[Coming Soon!]

His statements were taken out of context, he's already debunked this...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030905/ap_on_en_mo/people_depp_2

[Johnnys Apples]

Thanks for the clarity, still don't understand the "dumb" part of his comments though.

It's not just Johnny Depp here folks, it's the whole actor-turned-political-activist scene in Hollywood, to rename a few Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, et al. Personally I don't think many people were that impressed with their little protest, but we're seeing this interesting backlash with the Dixie Chicks which is still ongoing to some people. I really am a Depp fan, just wish this news hadn't come out about him, but I really am turned off by the other hollywood protests as well. Protest if you like, it's your right, but don't expect others to uphold your status as creditability for your political views.

[Johnnys Apples]

How was this taken out of context:

" Hollywood hearthrob Johnny Depp has slammed US President George W. Bush's policy on Iraq, calling him "one of the worst liars I have ever seen," in an interview with German magazine Stern to appear.

Depp, who lives in France with his wife, pop singer Vanessa Paradis, and two children, told the magazine that "grown-up men and women in positions of power" in the US government had shown themselves to be "idiots" in choosing to go to war against Iraq and attacking Paris for its opposition to the war. "


Hard to take that out of context

[Diablo]

It doesnt make sense everyone in america is given the right to say anything they want.. but when someone says something they dont like... they "bash" that person for something they dont like??

thats just plain stupid.

I actually agree with Depp soo..

[slinger]

They were taken out of context.

[ea19]

Is it really that big of a deal? So he said bad things about the US. So what? Even if they wern't taken out of context, I still wouldn't have cared. Johnny Depp has the right to say whatever the hell he wants.

[kingdeath]

F him, F him up his stupid ass, for he is the ball-licker! Sure he has the right to say it in a German rag because lord we all know Bush controls every piece of media in the US. I guess George W. Bush forgot to censor the actor's remarks that day because he may have been doing a real job that meant more than just words...I'd like to see the poncy little foo foo actor to say those words to my face or anyone in NYC on a memorial on 9/11. Johnny Depp when was the last time he did something REALLY for this country other promote his product or than bang a supermodel that resembles a little boy? Makes ya think huh?

Hey Johnny yer sure got a purdy mouth there boy, Now squeal like a piggy!

[Garnet Spring]

To all the idiots who are still talking about this:He Said it was taken out of context!! He supposedly made the statements to a German Magazine, while speaking French!! You ever hear of screwy translation? Germany isn't so hot with us rightnow, actually they never have been, so don't just going to take the word of this magazine. My positon is that we can't prove that he said it, so there's nothing to left to talk about. That should be the position of any logical person. Get over it.

[Kris Hodgson]

Johnny Depp contributes to numerous American Charities all the time. He is an excellent actor and a good human being and is entitled to say whatever he wants to say. How do you know he didn't lose anyone on 9/11. You don't know, so why don't you keep your uninformed idiotic comments to yourself. And I'm sick of some americans thinking they are the only ones that suffered during 9/11 or that it is the only disaster the world has ever seen. There are suicide bombings almost ever week in the middle east. It is a way of life over there, not just one day. There were also many nationalities to lose people on that day. It wasn't just americans. Just get off your patriotic high horse and view things from a world wide point of view.

[Diablo]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
Johnny Depp contributes to numerous American Charities all the time. He is an excellent actor and a good human being and is entitled to say whatever he wants to say. How do you know he didn't lose anyone on 9/11. You don't know, so why don't you keep your uninformed idiotic comments to yourself. And I'm sick of some americans thinking they are the only ones that suffered during 9/11 or that it is the only disaster the world has ever seen. There are suicide bombings almost ever week in the middle east. It is a way of life over there, not just one day. There were also many nationalities to lose people on that day. It wasn't just americans. Just get off your patriotic high horse and view things from a world wide point of view.

:applaud:

[kingdeath]

Hey I don't mind if ya like whatever pinko frog things the fruity actor says compared to mine... and if the little poufter had lost someone close to him on 9/11, he really hasn't learned much in his 40 years as a human being has he? He still is alive and having kids and a fruitful career taking American money back to Frogland. I lost someone close in one of those planes that I saw on TV, so please don't tell me about a high horse, get off your soapbox. My point is just as valid. And just exactly what are those charities he contributes to, Anti- Frog-Baiting Charities? Out of context god call I guessit all depends on what the meaning of the word 'context' is...

[IdahoMR2man]

Originally posted by Johnnys Apples
tedward: Wow as far as jingoistic rants go that was quite good, I hope all americans dont think like you (Johnnys Apples).


As a matter of fact, there are a lot that do.

Gee I wonder why America is so looked down upon right now....

[jediknight]

Don't kid yourself, america isn't looked down upon because of Bush, it has always been looked down upon. Americans were always "fat & lazy" in others eyes.

[Kris Hodgson]

Originally posted by kingdeath
Hey I don't mind if ya like whatever pinko frog things the fruity actor says compared to mine... and if the little poufter had lost someone close to him on 9/11, he really hasn't learned much in his 40 years as a human being has he? He still is alive and having kids and a fruitful career taking American money back to Frogland. I lost someone close in one of those planes that I saw on TV, so please don't tell me about a high horse, get off your soapbox. My point is just as valid. And just exactly what are those charities he contributes to, Anti- Frog-Baiting Charities? Out of context god call I guessit all depends on what the meaning of the word 'context' is...

Your use of the word Frog to describe french people is highly offensive to me, and I suggest that you desist or I will do my best to have you banned from these boards.

[Diablo]

Originally posted by jediknight
Don't kid yourself, america isn't looked down upon because of Bush, it has always been looked down upon. Americans were always "fat & lazy" in others eyes.

Bush is evil...

ever since he came in office everything went downhill...


now this hurricane

Damn that monkey :mad:

[jediknight]

Your implying Bush caused the hurricane?!? :lol:

Bush gives tax breaks, thats the main reason I like him. The standard republican only gives them to the wealthiest though, Bush gives them to parents and people who don't want to pay a penalty for being married. The second reason I like him is because he don't take **** from nobody, he's a politician, but not one with his tail between his legs. He's not one to sway on his opinion like most politicians. Thats where the problem comes in though...he's so ready to fight someone, he seems like the "school yard bully" to the rest of the world.

[kingdeath]

Hey the French are offensive to me, can I also do whatever it is to have them banned from posting on this board... I thought this was the internet the last outlet for Free Speech, offensive or not... you seem to want only YOUR TYPE of Free Speech. And I only mean 'Frog' in the most ENDEARING way...

[spiderman_2k]

Freedom Of Speech Rules

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11021

Some users on here may be French and may take offence to what u said...Maybe people not french took offence to it aswell

[Boods]

who cares what johnny depp says offscreen people ... its not important .. we just watch the movies... and BTW you cant say the actors dont know what they are talking about because they probably do .. you dont know how much they know .. and if thats their opinion well its a free world so they could say what they think without people arguing about hoz much they know on the subject ... i am not taking sides just saying that they all have a right to speak and we all have a right to listen or not but not to start a hate club on someone cos he said what he thought !!!!

and by the way i aint french, i am american but i live in paris, france so dont go on insulting a country fool of a took !!!

[kingdeath]

I could care less about France, even prior the second Gulf conflict, I've enjoyed meeting many types of people from all over the world and have changed my mind many a time... like it or not, your words also like Depp's will useless barbs that will never convince me unless someone has a more persuasive way, simple as that. Hey, I loooove Free Speech and thanks for the guidelines link, but whatever I say may offend some or yopu may agree, this is called "dialogue" the same kinda dance Depp uses to avoid issues when he opens his mouth when he's not acting.Like Depp I'm roughly the same age as himself, but I find it odd and OFFENSIVE what he says and does when he makes such stupid insults to a country that has GIVEN him the RIGHT to speak his mind and seemingly turn his back on it for his children's own sake... I have liked his work a great deal... out of context or not(so he says and yes I myself have been misquoted myself in interviews) the underlying context itself and his living in France makes me suspicious, when the studio heads here pull the reigns and write out his paycheck...

[Kris Hodgson]

Calling a french person a frog is not voicing your free speach. It is a durogatory comment similar to calling a black person the "N" word or a chinese person a chink. It is completely offensive and hurtful. Do you know any french people personally? What is your basis for hating them so much?

[kingdeath]

Ah unfortunately Kris(if I may call you Kris) it IS voicing MY Free Speech, like it or not. If you find it as OFFENSIVE as the "N" word than you have a huge battle to fight and better stop wasting your time posting on movies sites and get pollitically active in your community. yes this is a HOSTED CHAT and YES THEY(NOT YOU Yourself) make their guidelines, if I crossed them so-be it, it only REFLECTS ON ME and my own statelments, I stand by them... sad but true. But this is where I stand or fall unlike Depp who seemingly will take the proverbial high road 'It was taklen out of context' approach. Do I know French people, oh come on now this is America where I'm typing from, the MELTING POT of the world, if you find what I say offensive I'm sorry you do, but there are much BIGGER things in this world to be bickering about these days.... or what Depp had.

[IdahoMR2man]

Originally posted by jediknight
Don't kid yourself, america isn't looked down upon because of Bush, it has always been looked down upon. Americans were always "fat & lazy" in others eyes.

Oh I wasn't meaning because of Bush. I meant that Americans are looked down upon because of their self righteous bs. Blind faith...

[kingdeath]

As opposed to what, Euro BS? Oh Please... to quote a felon: "Can't we all just get along"?

[IdahoMR2man]

Hey I'm just explaining why Americans are looked down upon....

[kingdeath]

Thats ok Idaho, I think I'm more upset that we all don't look at each other equally, personally I want the same kinda peace...no lie. I just feel frustrated when artists I like(meaning Depp in this case) just MAYBE should NEVER do interviews... ;) Yes, I push buttons, but I do it for clarity in conversation. The middle of the road, is the worst place to drive...

[IdahoMR2man]

It's fine. You didn't know the rules, now you do and are respecting them. More than I can say about most noobs.

[kingdeath]

Believe me I TRY & RESPECT RULES(when I think applicable... yeah the rebel iun me who knew). I will always call myself on my OWN actions when I think someone has convinced me wrong, believe me. I guess I also love a good debate... No matter what anyone will say to me I WILL listen(when it's clever &persuasive).

Cheers to all.
Christopher

[Kris Hodgson]

Originally posted by kingdeath
Ah unfortunately Kris(if I may call you Kris) it IS voicing MY Free Speech, like it or not. If you find it as OFFENSIVE as the "N" word than you have a huge battle to fight and better stop wasting your time posting on movies sites and get pollitically active in your community. yes this is a HOSTED CHAT and YES THEY(NOT YOU Yourself) make their guidelines, if I crossed them so-be it, it only REFLECTS ON ME and my own statelments, I stand by them... sad but true. But this is where I stand or fall unlike Depp who seemingly will take the proverbial high road 'It was taklen out of context' approach. Do I know French people, oh come on now this is America where I'm typing from, the MELTING POT of the world, if you find what I say offensive I'm sorry you do, but there are much BIGGER things in this world to be bickering about these days.... or what Depp had.

I see what you mean. This post was well thought out and literate. Your beliefs are your beliefs and it's no one's right to try and change them. Some of your past posts did offend me because they did not seem intelligent or respectful, just insulting. But with this response I can feel comfortable in the fact that you are not a drooling hate monger. Cheers dude.

[kingdeath]

LOl aww thanks Kris, Actually your post made me weepy(what guy would ever ADMIT to that)!!! I love a good post and I love opinions(yes I can be a stinky old web-rat sometimes I admit). I dig ANYONE to state their opinion and proudly, thats why I posted... ugh to even THINK my animator collegue (www.doodie.com)also plays a Hari Krishna in 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas' aqnd to work with Terry Gilliam. Sometimes Ido kick myself for no longer living in L.A. BELIEVE me, I like Depp ALOT(hell, so does my GF's mother, BIG TIME)!!! To tell ya the truth, nobody these days has his appeal or range... he is a VERY rare egg in the biz, alll in all I really do wish him the best of luck...

[pixiness]

I'd be a little irked if he said those things and then lived here. But he doesn't. So I don't feel at all that he's trying to have his cake and eat it too.

If he had said those things while living here - we all would have said "If you don't like it. Leave." He doesn't. He Has. I think he's perfectly justified in thinking whatever he wants.

[Kris Hodgson]

You work with Doodie.com? Those are some sick toons man. I first seen them years ago on Spike N' Mike's Sick and Twisted Animation Festival. Hilarious.

[kingdeath]

Actually(veering 'off subject') Tom and I are old friends/animating kooks/actors from college @ The Museum of Fine Arts School(in Boston, Massachusetts) . He had seen my site 'Terminus Zone' many years ago(about '94)and was curious about webdesigning... his animated site became very popular. He then went onto doing doing the original animated intro the 'The Norm(Macdonald) Show' for ABC TV and the online animated version of 'The Peeper' interpretation for Adam Sandler's own webisite for his most recent comedy cd. Notably he has been used as an actor, most notably as John Malkovitch's double for the blockbuster 'Con Air' starring Nicholas Cage.

[Kris Hodgson]

Very cool.

[Johnnys Apples]

OK, glad to see that this post finally got back from everyone insulting everyone else. I knew that some people would be too lame to handle talking about the situation instead of the person and then start bashing each other.

To restate the original opinion, I am a huge Johnny Depp fan, but was greatly disappointed with his statements. You can agree with them or disagree with them, however don't attack others, just discuss the statements. I will continue to be a Depp fan, although I don't approve of his remarks. Yes he is entitled to his opinions, as we are entitled to discuss them, disapprove of them, agree with them or whatever. Meaningful dialogue is what we are looking for here people, not hate bashing, name calling or childish and slanderous remarks (such as anti-America, anti-anyone). Such remarks only show you are too inept to talk frankly about issues and resort to attacks which is not what we want. Join a skinhead forum somewhere if you just want to post any sort of hateful anything about anyone or any country.

[Infected Trust]

Originally posted by Johnnys Apples
These guys need to either shut up or get the hell out, but frankly I don't want to hear from someone who doesn't know jack ***** about what they are saying.

A few comments...

These guys? Since when are actors any different from regular people? They aren't more or less human then us, thus no different. That's a very uneducated statement you have made right there. You say they can't voice their opinions, but you can? That's retarded. Perhaps you have your head up your ass. "omg an akt0r say sumting i no lik i wil not rant my opinion syaing he can no have opinion, yaya i smart"

Secondly, none of us want to hear opinions from those that don't know "jack" and frankly, you fall under the column of "not knowing jack" as well. You're obviously biased towards America like most Americans are and refuse to poke your cocky, little, arrogant head out of the box of "freedom"

Practice what you preach.

[Johnnys Apples]

Originally posted by Infected Trust
A few comments...

These guys? Since when are actors any different from regular people? They aren't more or less human then us, thus no different. That's a very uneducated statement you have made right there. You say they can't voice their opinions, but you can? That's retarded. Perhaps you have your head up your ass. "omg an akt0r say sumting i no lik i wil not rant my opinion syaing he can no have opinion, yaya i smart"

Secondly, none of us want to hear opinions from those that don't know "jack" and frankly, you fall under the column of "not knowing jack" as well. You're obviously biased towards America like most Americans are and refuse to poke your cocky, little, arrogant head out of the box of "freedom"

Practice what you preach.

Again, if you aren't mature enough to refrain from personal attacks, as you obviously aren't, just skip posting. No need to act like a 2 year old in here. Thanks.

[Infected Trust]

Quit *****ing, nub.

(Btw, weren't your comments personal attacks on Depp? MmHmm, they were. Think please.)

[Johnnys Apples]

You know what's funny, is when someone has just a few more posts then you and they call you a noob (and can't even spell it right either).

Still don't agree with Depp's statements, like him personally. I guess then whenever I fight with my wife, by the above standards, I am not disagreeing with her, but attacking her personally. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

Never attacked him personally, just thought his actions were uncalled for. I guess at this point I could call you a "noob" too. Have a nice day.

[yeahyeahyeah73]

Just because Johnny Depp is a celebrity doesn't mean he no longer has the right to speak his mind and state opinions that some people disagree with. I don't find his comments offensive at all, and I don't think they're a reflection that he doesn't respect the fact that there was a great tragedy on 9/11. I really don't understand how that connection was made by anyone. I'm an American, and I happen to not be proud of my President in how he has deceived the American people on multiple occasions. BUT that doesn't mean I don't support our troops and want every one of them to come home safely. I'm as patriotic as the next guy, and since the tragedy of 9/11 I have been proud to witness and take part in the solidarity of our nation. But that doesn't mean our President doesn't use his status to bully the rest of the world.

[lotrfreak]

Johnny should be able to say whatever he wants and not get as much crap as he had
he is a great man and people should leave him alone!!

[Kris Hodgson]

Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah73
Just because Johnny Depp is a celebrity doesn't mean he no longer has the right to speak his mind and state opinions that some people disagree with. I don't find his comments offensive at all, and I don't think they're a reflection that he doesn't respect the fact that there was a great tragedy on 9/11. I really don't understand how that connection was made by anyone. I'm an American, and I happen to not be proud of my President in how he has deceived the American people on multiple occasions. BUT that doesn't mean I don't support our troops and want every one of them to come home safely. I'm as patriotic as the next guy, and since the tragedy of 9/11 I have been proud to witness and take part in the solidarity of our nation. But that doesn't mean our President doesn't use his status to bully the rest of the world.

Good post. :)

[yeahyeahyeah73]

Thanks. I generally try to stay away from posting anything the least bit insightful, but once in a while I falter. (I just bought Max Payne, by the way. Great game!)

[Kris Hodgson]

Yeah, I just beat it the other day. I had never played it before. Obviously I loved it.

[Doomsday]

I'm not a huge political guy, nor am I informed on anything, and I really don't have many opinions about it (other than I think it was better to take care of Saddam now rather than later). But one thing I have noticed from a neutral point of view is that on 9/12/01, almost every single American was gung-ho to "go kill some carpetheads" or something along those lines. Now that the war started, everyone was like "oh no what have we done, damn you America." Sounds kinda hypocritial to me. Granted America isn't perfect, and George Bush isn't exactly a GREAT leader, but he deserves a lot more credit than people give him. If you wanna look at it from another point of view, ask yourself what Al Gore would have done if he was elected. If nothing comes to your mind, you're probably right, becauses he would have done nothing. That's just me, I'm not criticizing anybody, but that's just what I think.

[Johnnys Apples]

Originally posted by Doomsday
I'm not a huge political guy, nor am I informed on anything, and I really don't have many opinions about it (other than I think it was better to take care of Saddam now rather than later). But one thing I have noticed from a neutral point of view is that on 9/12/01, almost every single American was gung-ho to "go kill some carpetheads" or something along those lines. Now that the war started, everyone was like "oh no what have we done, damn you America." Sounds kinda hypocritial to me. Granted America isn't perfect, and George Bush isn't exactly a GREAT leader, but he deserves a lot more credit than people give him. If you wanna look at it from another point of view, ask yourself what Al Gore would have done if he was elected. If nothing comes to your mind, you're probably right, becauses he would have done nothing. That's just me, I'm not criticizing anybody, but that's just what I think.

Couldn't have said it better myself. America has forgotten what has happened for the most part on 9/11. For the most part though, I think all the negativities aimed at Bush are all meant to try to boost the Democrats chances in the election next year. Case in point, the very same people who voted FOR the war in Iraq are now saying they didn't (cough..John Kerry...cough). Look folks, all this stuff about Bush being such a bad guy is political mud slinging and mainly not true, but aimed to get at the heart of people to boost one side or the other. You can't be so believing in the media to think that they don't have an agenda and they aren't large corporations paid by politicians just like the claims against Bush. Truth is THEY ALL DO IT AND THEY ARE ALL GUILTY!! Right before election years though the mudslinging and finger pointing comes full swing to help boost chances and raise funds. Politics in every country these days is about as dirty a business as you can be in REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION!

[yeahyeahyeah73]

Originally posted by Doomsday
George Bush isn't exactly a GREAT leader, but he deserves a lot more credit than people give him. If you wanna look at it from another point of view, ask yourself what Al Gore would have done if he was elected. If nothing comes to your mind, you're probably right, becauses he would have done nothing. That's just me, I'm not criticizing anybody, but that's just what I think.

Sorry, but IMO that's a load of crap. Bush didn't do anything different than any other President in our history would have and should have done. You can't say what Gore would have done, because he wasn't in place to do it. I'd bet that he would have done well.

[Johnnys Apples]

Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah73
Sorry, but IMO that's a load of crap. Bush didn't do anything different than any other President in our history would have and should have done. You can't say what Gore would have done, because he wasn't in place to do it. I'd bet that he would have done well.

I disagree. Gore is way too beholding to his party (hence the reason everyone says he seems fake. That's because he is, he says what they tell him to). Clinton and Gore's reluctance to do anything about some of the problems earlier when the WTC was bombed left the door open for 9/11.

[Doomsday]

Well you gotta keep in mind that PROBABLY Al Gore would have done what Bill Clinton did. To me, it seemed that Clinton could have cared less about attacks like the USS Cole, etc. He made threats, sent a couple cruise missles over, and that was that. Keeping in mind I'm not the most informed person, it seems that Bush actually cared about 9-11, and wanted to find the people responsible before more civilains got killed (I'm not talking about the Middle East). More terrorist attacks will happen, I'm sure, but I think the odds are a lot lower that terrorists will have the means to carry out these attacks in America since Bush is President, and it would be much easier for them if someone else was in power.

By the way, a lot of people are pissed because a lot of people seem to be slamming Bush. Come on, if anyone else was President, people would be slamming them for something. If I was President, people would be slamming me. Whether or not its warranted, which in many cases its not, it comes with the territory people.

[yeahyeahyeah73]

Originally posted by Johnnys Apples
I disagree. Gore is way too beholding to his party (hence the reason everyone says he seems fake. That's because he is, he says what they tell him to). Clinton and Gore's reluctance to do anything about some of the problems earlier when the WTC was bombed left the door open for 9/11.

Every President who has gotten elected since I don't know when has been beholden to his party. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Where would Bush be without his dad and the rest of the Republican Party? If there's ever any President who's had to depend on his advisors and the rest of his party, it's our current one (and I don't necessarily mean that as a slam). And you will never convince me that Clinton never did anything about the WTC bombing. We just don't know what he did, which is the way our government should operate. We knew years after the fact that Clinton tried to go after Osama Bin Laden, with pretty much the same level of success that Bush has had.

[yeahyeahyeah73]

Originally posted by Doomsday
Well you gotta keep in mind that PROBABLY Al Gore would have done what Bill Clinton did. To me, it seemed that Clinton could have cared less about attacks like the USS Cole, etc. He made threats, sent a couple cruise missles over, and that was that. Keeping in mind I'm not the most informed person, it seems that Bush actually cared about 9-11, and wanted to find the people responsible before more civilains got killed (I'm not talking about the Middle East). More terrorist attacks will happen, I'm sure, but I think the odds are a lot lower that terrorists will have the means to carry out these attacks in America since Bush is President, and it would be much easier for them if someone else was in power.

I just don't understand the basis for this conclusion, and I mean no disrespect. I don't know what Bush has done differently that any other man in that position would do, as far as insuring the safety of the country against more terrorist attacks.

[Johnnys Apples]

Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah73
I just don't understand the basis for this conclusion, and I mean no disrespect. I don't know what Bush has done differently that any other man in that position would do, as far as insuring the safety of the country against more terrorist attacks.

There are prominent Democrats who recently have come out and said that they are actually going to support Bush for re-election because he says he is going to do something and he sticks to his word. One of those democrats is former NY mayor Ed Koch. Bush said he was going after terrorists <u>and anyone who supports terrorists</u> which to me says that Iraq was clearly on the map. We all supported him when he said that, and now some people are trying to politicize the war with Iraq. Truth be told, according to the rules and guidelines set forth for Saddam to follow after the Gulf War, Clinton should have done what bush did years ago. Saddam violates his treaty, he get's the punishment. If we don't stick by those rules, others will view them as meaningless. Clinton just wanted to bomb aspirin factories, and in fact military generals under Clinton have written books about how he was completely careless with the military and he even lost the nuclear launch codes. Bush is firm and strong where Clinton was a pushover. That's the difference.

[Johnnys Apples]

Check out the link to the following book on Clinton's ineptitude in office as Commander in Chief.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?pwb=1&ean=9780895261403

[Knerys]

Coming from a military family, I am not at all impressed with how Clinton used the military. He created the idea of push button war and then just walk away. And we wonder why people like the Taliban and Saddam are upset with America. But he campaign was cloud by the whole Lewinski scandal so no one really took notice. Not it not just Clinton. It's alot of factors going far back in our political system and foreign policy and others foreign policy. It's all just coming to a head it would seem right now.

Right now Bush has created quite the mess, but he is trying to clean it up. He did what he thoguht was best and yeah it didn't turn out quite the yeah he planned but things rarely do, but now he trying to fix.

As for Depp, he can think what he wants, and I think he reflects alot of people's views who are tired of the name calling and belittling goign on. I certainly tired of it. I can't except any nation to work together if all they do is throw insults at each other. Admitt the mistake, move on and get to work. America is not the police of the world but alot of times there is a lot of pressure for it to be. No one can pass judgement on peoples decision right now. Right now it's the time to fix what is wrong, not try and pass off the blame.

[Johnnys Apples]

Originally posted by Knerys
Coming from a military family, I am not at all impressed with how Clinton used the military. He created the idea of push button war and then just walk away. And we wonder why people like the Taliban and Saddam are upset with America. But he campaign was cloud by the whole Lewinski scandal so no one really took notice. Not it not just Clinton. It's alot of factors going far back in our political system and foreign policy and others foreign policy. It's all just coming to a head it would seem right now.

Right now Bush has created quite the mess, but he is trying to clean it up. He did what he thoguht was best and yeah it didn't turn out quite the yeah he planned but things rarely do, but now he trying to fix.

As for Depp, he can think what he wants, and I think he reflects alot of people's views who are tired of the name calling and belittling goign on. I certainly tired of it. I can't except any nation to work together if all they do is throw insults at each other. Admitt the mistake, move on and get to work. America is not the police of the world but alot of times there is a lot of pressure for it to be. No one can pass judgement on peoples decision right now. Right now it's the time to fix what is wrong, not try and pass off the blame.

Very thoughtfully expressed. You must be cringing if you are in the military loop at the prospect of Wesley Clark. Even the Joint Chiefs of Staff are saying that there is no way that they would ever vote for that guy, and I agree.

The funny thing about America is that right after 9/11 Bush told everyone that he is going to go after 3 groups of people: terrorists, those countries who harbor terrorists, and those countries who aid terrorists. We all agreed to it then and said go get them, and he has stuck by his word. Some are saying that he shouldn't have gone after Iraq, but the truth is they fall in the list of people we should be after. I believe that a lot of their WMD's were sold off to terrorists, I am just worried about where they might surface. It's still a scary world, and I am behind Bush 100% because he said he was going to do something and he didn't back down.

[Diablo]

Originally posted by Johnnys Apples

The funny thing about America is that right after 9/11 Bush told everyone that he is going to go after 3 groups of people: terrorists, those countries who harbor terrorists, and those countries who aid terrorists. We all agreed to it then and said go get them

Ummm not exactly... not everyone agreed...;)

[Johnnys Apples]

Yeah, but a lot of the people that did agree (AKA Democrats) are now withdrawing their statements. If you were one of the people who thought we should just do nothing, then that's besides the point. IMO doing nothing was the worst thing we could have done.

[Diablo]

IM not really into politics so i cant really say what i was backing up or not so... I just dont like Bush... THats all i can say.. why i dont like him i wont say why...

[Johnnys Apples]

Originally posted by Diablo23
IM not really into politics so i cant really say what i was backing up or not so... I just dont like Bush... THats all i can say.. why i dont like him i wont say why...

If you're not into politics and don't really know that much about it, then you must just be repeating the liberal media or something when you say you don't like Bush. Personally I think Bush is turning out to be one of the best Presidents we've had.

[Stewart-18]

To the starter of this thread:

You are foolish. The American population is full of sheep. You Gov't knows this and takes advantage of it everyday.

Mr. Depp was correct. Shut up and deal with it.

[Johnnys Apples]

Right. Now there is a thoughtful individual (sarcasm)

[Ryvyan]

I don't think that were the exact words of Johnny Depp. He is an American citizen and believes he would be back someday, and they're a rather silly answers aren't they?

I don't think he's that dumb to give answrs like that. Plus the Germany magazine is tabloid. Thrash. *shrugs*


Regarding the Bush matter, well, I don't really like the way he 'declared' war on Afghanistan and Iraq because of the civilians. It's good in a way though, since he's helping his people out and helping the people of these poor countries out too.

Not exactly the way I think help should be rendered, but I shall rest my case.

[rzrbks]

After having read this entire thread, it's funny

1. Sec of Defense admits that the whole war was a mistake.

2. Two men who actually were in combat, Kerry and Clark are against the way Shrub did things.

3. Prez. Idiot is being seen getting into bed with Saudi Arabia where most of the 9/11 terrorists came from.

4. The whole scenerio is EXACTLY like the last time the Republicans had control of both Houses and White House. We were out fighting everybody in the world. That Republican Administration, and another Idiot named John Foster Dulles signed 60+ treaties to send American troops to fight in other countries but those other countries didn't have to do anything to help us just like Prez. Idiot did with his "Coalition of the Willing(to be bought off)"

[Johnnys Apples]

If you're comparing Bush to Eisenhower and both their administrations times are a little different.

[sunflower03]

i don't care what celebrities opinions on politics are because they aren't politicians so it shouldn't matter as simple as that. i don't care what the actors political opinion is, but i don't think that an actor should act like there opinion is so important just because they happen to be famous. i am not saying that any certain celebrity does, i just mean in general. i also think the media also overly pay attention to a celebrities opinion just because they happen to be famous.

[A+]

It is kinda annoying how if a celebrity has a view on something it gets all over the news and stuff like this has done. I mean sure they can have an opinion, but why the rest of us need to hear it I don't know, particularly if it's obviously going to have a negative effect. Sometimes it just seems like they want to be controversial for no real reason other than for attention.

[neowarrior]

lotsa angry people in here...and ..ever think about it...WHY THE HELL IS ANYONE STANDING UP FOR GEORGE BUSH OUT HERE...he is clearly the biggest moron the century has seen..so instead of picking on johny depps comments,which can be excused due to the fact that hes an actor and not a politician,pick on dumb frickin ass bush..whos supposed to be the president and still thinks france is in africa and yasser arafta is the prime minister of france..get a grip[ people

[sunflower03]

just because someone says they don't want to hear a celebrities opinions doesn't mean someone is standing up for bush. i don't care how liberal a celebrity is, such as susan surrandon or martin sheen, or how conservative they are (charelton hesston). they need to keep their political opinions to themselves, because they are not politicians are experts on the matter. just because someone's famous doesn't mean their opinions matter on every subject.

i don't think though that it is just the actors fault that their opinion gets put out their like that though, a lot of it is the media's fault. i care about how an actors do in a movie, not how they vote.

if i let how an actor/actresses political opinions determine as to whether or not i would see a movie, i wouldn't be watching a lot of movies. just like how i think that the dixie chicks were idiots for how they expressed themsevles politically, but i didn't let that stop me from enjoying their music.

[Tony Montana]

Actors are also citizens and are doing the right thing with talking to people. Mostly it is the press that is asking for something like that...

And who told you that politicians do know what they are doing?? Or that they are doing the best for the citizens and not for themselves or their friends?? Just take a look at Dick Cheneys ex-firm now and how much money they have made with Iraq till now and than try to explain that this war was something right ...

[sunflower03]

i never said they were doing the best, nor do politicians have the right answers, but at least politicians of either party probably have studied the issues more than a celebrity.

everyone in this country has a right to express an opinion, my problem is that celebrities have a press conference to discuss their opinion. a celebrities opinion should be treated like every other average american. celebrities get more attention on whatever their political opinion is than any expert on the subject that probably knows ten times more about the subject.

[Lton]

I just find it funny that the left is always chastised for having celebrity backing and they hate hearing the opions of these stars, but once you throw in a Hitler-worshiping, gang-banging, woman-groping star, all he has to do is say the right things and the right will gladly support him.

[sunflower03]

well i don't want to here celebraty opinions from the left or the right, i don't care what political party they belong to. i just want them to keep it to themselves.

[Tony Montana]

They should talk, mostly they are asked about it and newspapers are making it big time!

In US republicans are calling such liberal celebrities "celiberals" or "whining pack" and republican celebrities "heros"... LMAO!!!

Incredible how they still support Bush & Co. while they are filling their pockets with money instead of helping the own country!

Just take a long look at the US now and how the social enviroment is going straight to hell and tell me that Iraq was neccesary.

They should talk and wake some sleeping republican voting hill billies up and show them the truth!

Republicans in US are just media suited fashists, and the problem is that most US citizens have no idea what is really going on because they believe what they see on TV or what Bush is saying...

The funniest thing is this religious stuff, Bush is talking about him and Jesus and how he is so religious... and then he is sending people to kill inocents, his father and him are supporting dictators (Saddam and Shah were both supported by Bush Sen. and they even got their WMD from US wich they have used on their own people many times, with US support)...

In US it doesnt matter what you have done or what you are, if you are having good media adviser all you have to do is say "No, that is not true" or "Yes, but it was long ago (even if it was last week) and now I am another person.." LOL!!!

[Queen Tree]

I have problems with quotes like this, because unless he someone has these statements taped, you don't know how true they are. the media is good at twisting words.