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huntington12
08-15-2003, 12:53 AM
I think it is pretty clear Snape is a vampire. His werwolf taughts to Lupin were responded to with vampire references. . . . . .while we don't know his background.. . .the evidence is clear that he is a vampire. .. . . yes, he does come out in the daytime, but. .... that what potions are for. . .right???:clown:

kel thuzad
08-15-2003, 05:26 AM
How does he fulfill his "needs" then ?

redman
08-15-2003, 10:25 PM
can u give me some evidence?

Seraph333
08-16-2003, 12:20 AM
hmmm i guess maybe it could make sense maybe that's how he would die trying to save harry? he would make an attempt but forget to take his poitions.

huntington12
08-16-2003, 01:05 AM
The short list is:
He lives in a dungeon;
He's always up at night;
Ron's little joke about Snape "turning himself into a bat";
He has "sallow skin";
Quirrell (who mentioned, at the Leaky Cauldron, that he was going to buy a book on Vampires) described Snape as "flitting around like an overgrown bat";
Just like Snape had assigned an essay on werewolves to expose Lupin, Lupin then assigned an essay on Vampires (as payback?)

If there is a potion for werewolves, surely there is one for vampires as well?.. .:cool:

tomoyo_angel21
08-16-2003, 05:28 AM
How can he be a vampire??? Why didn't JK tell us about that???

AnGeLGaLAF
08-16-2003, 09:35 AM
hmmm...I didn't pick up on Lupin assigning a Vampire essay...that's good. You sold me, huntington.

Seraph333
08-16-2003, 10:32 AM
WHOA THAT IS SO TRUE! SNAPE IS A VAMPIRE , IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE

redman
08-16-2003, 08:20 PM
u have a point huntington but damn u ppl r convinced easily.

starphoenix
08-16-2003, 08:24 PM
but would dumbledore trust snape if he was a vampire....????? we don't even know if there is a potion to keep vampires under control...... i seriously doubt it tho.

redman
08-16-2003, 08:38 PM
he trusted lupin.

LOTRfan
08-18-2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by huntington12
The short list is:
He lives in a dungeon;
He's always up at night;
Ron's little joke about Snape "turning himself into a bat";
He has "sallow skin";
Quirrell (who mentioned, at the Leaky Cauldron, that he was going to buy a book on Vampires) described Snape as "flitting around like an overgrown bat";
Just like Snape had assigned an essay on werewolves to expose Lupin, Lupin then assigned an essay on Vampires (as payback?)

If there is a potion for werewolves, surely there is one for vampires as well?.. .:cool:

What website did you get that from? I've read that several times before. You should really credit them when you post something like this.

huntington12
08-18-2003, 10:51 AM
Actually got it from a classroom session I had with my 9th grade Lit class.. .. (I am a HS teacher)... ..so, should I credit them?... .. stop being such a git.. .

Mobycat
08-18-2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by huntington12
Actually got it from a classroom session I had with my 9th grade Lit class.. .. (I am a HS teacher)... ..so, should I credit them?... .. stop being such a git.. .

OK, first you said you were a middle school teacher. Now you say you are high school.

Which is it?

huntington12
08-18-2003, 11:28 AM
Its a k-12 bld. ...teach both........sorry, its small district in a small state.... . .not like the urban megaschool I am sure you went to. . .

Mobycat
08-18-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by huntington12
Its a k-12 bld. ...teach both........sorry, its small district in a small state.... . .not like the urban megaschool I am sure you went to. . .

Wow...you really are an ass.

The high school I went to wasn't huge, but wasn't small either. 2400 students. It was the only high school in the town (35,000).

Too bad wherever you went, they didn't teach manners (and I'm guessing you don't teach them either).

huntington12
08-18-2003, 12:30 PM
Base on any national standard, a 2400 pupil HS is large. .. ..in at least the top 3 or 4 %. In my state the largest HS is 2200.. . the second largest is only 1900.... ... .For a district to cram 2400 students into a single school explains your lack of intellect and your mistaken belief you can skim a book or book review and masquerade as having read it. Sorry, bud, but based on your comments about the OotP in particular and the HP series in general, you don't appear to have read them.......maybe you have, but your comprehension of the materal is sadly lacking. . .
I guess it was easy to hide that in classrooms the size your school must have endured. . .. . . I guess that's what happens when you get a public school education. . . sorry. . ..git

Mobycat
08-18-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by huntington12
Base on any national standard, a 2400 pupil HS is large. .. ..in at least the top 3 or 4 %. In my state the largest HS is 2200.. . the second largest is only 1900.... ... .For a district to cram 2400 students into a single school explains your lack of intellect and your mistaken belief you can skim a book or book review and masquerade as having read it. Sorry, bud, but based on your comments about the OotP in particular and the HP series in general, you don't appear to have read them.......maybe you have, but your comprehension of the materal is sadly lacking. . .
I guess it was easy to hide that in classrooms the size your school must have endured. . .. . . I guess that's what happens when you get a public school education. . . sorry. . ..git

Yeah, whatever. Public education in my town at that time was actually quite good.

And the high school - while it was large as far as students go, it was also large in size and number of techers. 1 principal, 1 dean, 3 vice principals, about 10 guidance counselors, and about 100 teachers. Not like they "packed them in". No classes got more than about 30 students. As much as I remember about it, none of my classes (the college prep ones) had more than 20-25. And about 10% of my class had 3.5+ GPA. This including Calculus, AP classes, advanced Chem, etc. So it wasn't like they weren't difficult classes.

Secondly, I seriously doubt you've seen but maybe 5-10 of my posts about OotP - posts specifically about that book.

Comprehension for me is actually one of my strong suits.

Jumping to conclusions is probably your best one. That and making assumptions.

Sorry....fool.

huntington12
08-18-2003, 01:07 PM
Your words betray you. If comprehension is one of your strong suits... ..ay yi yi. . ...... It must be nice living in your world .... not a macro concern about your life or the world. . ... .I guess that is one of the benefits of intellect.... . . no need to worry about anything that dosen't directly concern you at the present time.

I suggest you refrain from commenting on our system of education. The mere fact that your school offered AP classes is an indictment against the overall quality of the education you recieved. . (that is not me saying this, this is research conducted by the dept. of education). AP classes generally indicate a dangerous segregation that inhibits cognition and intellectual growth. I don't have time to go in depth about this, but suffice to say, your cognitive developement was retarded in such an environment. Once again, that is me, it is research fact.. . .. . . git

Kerry from Cali
08-18-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by huntington12
Base on any national standard, a 2400 pupil HS is large. .. ..in at least the top 3 or 4 %. In my state the largest HS is 2200.. . the second largest is only 1900.... ... .For a district to cram 2400 students into a single school explains your lack of intellect and your mistaken belief you can skim a book or book review and masquerade as having read it. Sorry, bud, but based on your comments about the OotP in particular and the HP series in general, you don't appear to have read them.......maybe you have, but your comprehension of the materal is sadly lacking. . .
I guess it was easy to hide that in classrooms the size your school must have endured. . .. . . I guess that's what happens when you get a public school education. . . sorry. . ..git


Huntington~

You are *extremely* new to these boards. So new, in fact, that you have made the classic "newbie" mistake. Mobycat is the second person (eclipsedman was the first) that you've dissed on these boards that I saw. (I admit there may have been others, but I haven't read that many of your posts. You draw emotional conclusions without the supporting evidence to back it up, and your writing style bores me a bit) Both Mobycat and eclipsedman have been posting here for a good long while now, Moby for a year. You've been here a few days, and you're spouting off like *yours* is the only opinion that's valid. Well, pal, you know what they say about opinions?? They're like A**holes, everybody's got one, and everybody thinks *theirs* is the only one that don't stink. News flash for you...yours stink.

In layman's terms, you stepped on your dick, (with big heavy combat boots) with your sophomoric, juvenile attack on eclipsedman and Mobycat. Total amateur crap. Oh, and your overuse of British slang, for example, your fondness for the word "GIT", makes you look like a silly "POSER".

"PLONK"

kerry

huntington12
08-18-2003, 01:29 PM
You have made the classic mistake of self delusional rhetoric. Instead of debating my points of argument, you attack me. Now who is sophomoric? Ah, that would be you.

Using your criteria for being "correct" on this board, I should lie for 5 or 6 hundred posts prior to telling the truth. No wonder Strom Thurman and those of his ilk are able to stay in office.... ... .your type of thought is dangerous.

As for my fondness for the word git.. .. . hem hem. .. .I have not found a word that contextually replaces it. ... ..its, its, just so utterly descriptive and accurate... . ...short, sweet and devestating.. . . . .

As for my emotional posts, you apparently are unable to read. My agruments are based on the readings. You should try it sometime. .. .. . . have someone read them to you.. .git

_manuel_
08-19-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Kerry from Cali
Huntington~

You are *extremely* new to these boards. So new, in fact, that you have made the classic "newbie" mistake. Mobycat is the second person (eclipsedman was the first) that you've dissed on these boards that I saw. (I admit there may have been others, but I haven't read that many of your posts. You draw emotional conclusions without the supporting evidence to back it up, and your writing style bores me a bit) Both Mobycat and eclipsedman have been posting here for a good long while now, Moby for a year. You've been here a few days, and you're spouting off like *yours* is the only opinion that's valid. Well, pal, you know what they say about opinions?? They're like A**holes, everybody's got one, and everybody thinks *theirs* is the only one that don't stink. News flash for you...yours stink.

In layman's terms, you stepped on your dick, (with big heavy combat boots) with your sophomoric, juvenile attack on eclipsedman and Mobycat. Total amateur crap. Oh, and your overuse of British slang, for example, your fondness for the word "GIT", makes you look like a silly "POSER".

"PLONK"

kerry

:eek:
And I thought you never got angry!!

*bows*

Kerry from Cali
08-20-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by _manuel_
:eek:
And I thought you never got angry!!

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

.*bows*


Why, thank you. ;)



This isn't even me getting angry. I can be much, much worse. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

The troll was an annoyance, not worth me *really* getting my dander up, but he *did* slam a couple of people, that while not actual friends in the traditional sense, were still people that I've enjoyed reading and corresponding with since I've joined this board. My bet is H12 couldn't handle a true flame war.

H12 is probably some punk kid getting ready to go back to school, I mean he couldn't even keep his *own* lies straight... "I teach middle school, no I teach high school... and then the total BS that he tried to pass off when Moby caught him in that lie. ack... LOSER. Just one big sad sack. I'm just glad we'll all be back to talking about HP. :)

Kerry =)

White Raven
08-20-2003, 10:55 AM
I can see Snape as a vampire but if he really is one, why hasn't he gotten Harry if he has so much hatred for him? I am sure Snape would be intellegent enough to come up with some sort of story (some sort of potion to get rid of the teeth marks) of what happened if it is just one...

In OOTP, wasn't the flash back sequence with Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Snape take place during the day?

CapricornDevil
08-22-2003, 08:46 PM
I haven't quite made up my mind on the vampire idea yet. There is evidence for it, and some against it. I guess I will have to wait until books 6 & 7 to make up my mind. OH, and Kerry....BRAVO! That was a very nice way to stand up for your fellow posters. :)

*Much applause to Kerry *

Kerry from Cali
08-23-2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by CapricornDevil
I haven't quite made up my mind on the vampire idea yet. There is evidence for it, and some against it. I guess I will have to wait until books 6 & 7 to make up my mind. OH, and Kerry....BRAVO! That was a very nice way to stand up for your fellow posters. :)

*Much applause to Kerry *


I hadn't given any real thought to Snape being a vampire, until someone pointed out that Lupin had the class do a report on vampires right after he found out that Snape had had them do one on werewolves. It's an interesting theory, one that will be fun to see played out.

As for the second part of your post, (blush) Thanks! :) In R/L I can be a tad outspoken, especially when it comes to my friends. The thing with the internet, is that there's a certain amount of anonymity, where people think they can do or say what ever the hell they want, with no consequences. Whether they're trying to be bores or bullies, it doesn't matter, if they attack people I like, there's no way I can stay quiet about it. But thanks for your kind words!

Kerry =)

Kerry from Cali
08-23-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by White Raven
I can see Snape as a vampire but if he really is one, why hasn't he gotten Harry if he has so much hatred for him? I am sure Snape would be intellegent enough to come up with some sort of story (some sort of potion to get rid of the teeth marks) of what happened if it is just one...

In OOTP, wasn't the flash back sequence with Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Snape take place during the day?


I think Snape has to pretend to hate Harry, much more then he really does, because of the kids in his class. Most of their parents were in Voldemort's circle, and he knows what is said in class, is repeated at home. Snape has a tough job, walking a tight line.

As to the fact that he was out in the daylight in the flashback, he might not have been bitten yet. I'm wondering how he could have been out in the daylight during the quidditch matches. Maybe there's a potion that he takes, just like there's a potion to help Lupin. I'm not sure how this will turn out.

Kerry =)

HPishot
08-23-2003, 03:47 PM
i had never thought about the fact that snape could be a vampire but now that u mention it it makes a lot of sence and i can see the truth coming out in book 6 or 7 like it did with Lupin. It is an interesting theory!

______________________
"Mr. Moony presents his compliments to Professor Snape, and begs him to keep his abnormally large nose out of other people's business."
"Mr. Prongs agrees with Mr. Moony, and would like to add that Professor Snape is an ugly git."
"Mr. Padfoot would like to register his astonishment that an idiot like that ever became a professor."

redman
08-23-2003, 10:16 PM
who thought up that theory?

Kerry from Cali
08-23-2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by redman
who thought up that theory?

The theory that Snape might be a vampire popped up a few months ago, and then H12 started this thread saying basically the same thing.

I decided to go back and read that section of the book, when Snape took over DADA while Lupin was out sick, and Snape assigned the Werewolf paper. When Lupin returns to class he does NOT assign a paper on vampires. He canceled Snape's assignment, and then they worked on hinkypunks. This was on P. 186 (american version) I've re-read several later chapters, and the first notice I can find where Lupin mentions vampires is on P. 289. Harry has just been chewed out by Snape because he knows (but can't prove) Harry was in Hogsmeade. Lupin and Ron have shown up now too. After Ron lies saying he gave Harry all the stuff in his pockets ages ago, Lupin says, "That seems to clear that up! Severus, I'll take this back, shall I?" He folded the map and tucked it inside his robes. "Harry, Ron, come with me, I need a word about my vampire essay - excuse us, Severus-"


That's it. The only vampire reference I can find Lupin making. I know that there are other "batty" type jokes made about Snape, but I can't find them right off hand.

I guess this doesn't answer the question about Snape either way now. If someone can remember a spot where it *is* mentioned, I hope they post it here so we can all re-read it.

Kerry =)

Mobycat
08-23-2003, 11:34 PM
Was there anything about Vampires not being able to be in the sun?

Rowling could be making her own rules about Vampires, much like Ann Rice did - Vampires in her book had no issues with crosses and such.

(Of course, I'm not entirely familiar with all the differing views of what a vampire can and cannot do)

Willowisp
08-24-2003, 08:32 AM
I am not quite sure how to handle people like Mr Big Shot Teacher, who thinks he knows everything and quotes studies from the DoE without references or context. As far as I know AP courses are taught in all schools, whether urban or suburban. My brother in law just graduated from a suburban school in a very affluent area. My fiancee attended this school as well - They both took AP courses. She is a triple major, submatriculating to get a master's as well - at an ivy league institution. He is going to one of this (US) country's most prestigeous business schools. My point being, if anything, that AP courses is probably not a very good measurement of the educational standard. They exist in almost all schools...

I myself is a ph.d. student in education at an ivy league institution. Apart from my studies, I also work as a research assistant at a large research facility which has branches in six universities highly ranked in education (including Harvard and Stanford). Now, does that make me know everything about education, and give me the right to start acting like an authority? Heh.. You know the answer, people.. Of course it doesn't.

I was a high school teacher, before I entered my doctoral studies, working mainly with children "at risk". Does this give me the right to be an ass on the board? Nuh uuh...

I have read the books several times and have opinions on them... This gives me the right to voice my opinions here on the board, and to argue, but not to be a hem hem... git... to others.

And lastly, as to Kerry's point.. When in Rome.. If you are new, you should probably learn a little of the community you are in, before you decide that your ways, your intelligence and everything you do is superior to everyone else. That is how I perceive the situation here on the board anyway. Of course I am still pretty new here, and I did put my foot in my mouth when I first came here, figuratively speaking, so I at least realize that there might be some sort of socialization involved. However, that is not an excuse to act like a donkey's bakside.

I do not claim to know everything, or to have a better understanding of the books that anyone else. (And I have an M.A. in literature). I usually find Mobycat's posts to be well-thought through and filled with insight. Some people on these boards annoy me, that is true, but I do not force any believed superiority on them... I do what most people here manage to do. I disagree respectfully, or I ignore them.

Now.. I am well aware that Huntington (or whatever it is) stepped on quite a few toes, but that being said, don't you oldtimers feel like you could have been a little more gracious and ignored him, rather than stooping to his level of "gorilla chest pounding" and territorial pissing? I am not saying that I thought it totally unwarrented, I am just asking a question here... Did you feel like you accomplished anything ;) ??

Anyway.. This, of course is just my opinion... If you want to rip it apart, attack me personally, or in other ways try to discredit it.. Go ahead... I don't care. If you want to attack my language use or capabilities, please remember, English is only my third language, I am bound to make mistakes :)

Thanks for your time :)

Kerry from Cali
08-24-2003, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Willowisp


Now.. This being said, I am well aware that Huntington (or whatever it is) stepped on quite a few toes, but that being said, doesn't you oldtimers feel like you could have been a little more gracious and ignored him, rather than stooping to his level of "gorilla chest pounding" and territorial pissing? I am not saying that I thought it totally unwarrented, I am just asking a question here... Did you feel like you accomplished anything ;) ??

Anyway.. This, of course is just my opinion... If you want to rip it apart, attack me personally, or in other ways try to discredit it.. Go ahead... I don't care. If you want to attack my language use or capabilities, please remember, English is only my third language, I am bound to make mistakes :)

Thanks for your time :)


Hi Willowisp,

Sorry, but I've snipped a big portion of your post to get to this one point. (since h12 has been banned, I'm not sure if he can still read the forum anyway or not.) Speaking strictly on my own personal feelings, (I wouldn't *dream* of claiming to speak for the board, to each his own,) I *did* ignore quite a few of H12's rude, immature posts. At first, I thought he was incredibly naive. Then I realized what he truly was, a troll. Almost from his very first post, he attacked, he criticized, he belittled. It wasn't typical newbie mistakes, these were thought out to be as nasty and disparaging as possible. He was only here for a few days, and managed to rack of something like 75 post, almost *all* of which spewed venom. He wasn't suggesting he had a difference of opinion, he was saying he was right and we were stupid for thinking differently. And he kept lying, digging himself in deeper, so deep in fact, that he couldn't keep his *own* lies straight. I personally thought he got off pretty easy.

In an open forum like these boards, not everyone is going to get along, not everyone is going to agree on the same thing. And thank God for it. Can you imagine how *boring* that would be?? There are many posters here that I enjoy reading, a few that drive me crazy, and one or two that I find annoying as hell. It's what makes the board what it is, we all seem to swim along just fine. So when you ask, "don't you oldtimers feel like you could have been a little more gracious and ignored him, rather than stooping to his level of "gorilla chest pounding" and territorial pissing?" I have to respond, nope. I couldn't do that. I ignore the few that bug me now. They don't do any harm, and they have a right to their own thoughts and feelings. If I don't like what they have to say, I just move on, no biggie. H12 was a different animal all together, not in the same class at all. He's a little coward, that thinks he can hide behind his keyboard. Frankly, I think I showed a hell of a lot of restraint, considering he sent me a private personal message that was pretty rude and nasty. It was after I received that little gem, that I put him on my "ignore" list, and I never responded to him again. I wouldn't give him the satisfaction. People like that are only seeking a reaction. I denied him what he wanted most, attention. Would I handle the situation differently, should there be a next time? Not one little bit.

(for whatever it's worth, I've always liked your posts. you said you put your foot in your mouth when you arrived here, but I don't think it was that bad. some people might have had a disagreement with you, and they chose to handle it poorly. I never had a problem with your posts)

Kerry =)

Willowisp
08-24-2003, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the kind words Kerry,

Now, things being what they were, I obviously did not research H12 well enough to see anything aside from what he did in this thread. My bad. If he was as bad as to be banned then he probably did deserve what he got .. I do not know how those bans work, but I am assuming that he could sign up for a new account... and read any response he got in that way.

As for the stooping to the immaturity of someone being particularily rude or nasty, I know it is an easy thing to do. Or rather, I believe it is hard to ignore certain people. Especially when they cross boundaries that we as persons do not want them to cross. However, I also believe that by stooping to their level, we are acknowledging what they are saying, and we are in a sense helping them, by giving them what they want: a response to provocation. I have always thought that morons go away faster, if you do not acknowledge their presence.

Now, this is all in theory, and as we all know theory and practice are seldom the best of buddies. I saw a moron attacking people I much respect on this board (Mobycat and you, Kerry to name a few) and I however much I tried to avoid stooping to his level, still acknowledged his presence. It is sometimes hard to live as we preach, you know? :)

So, what did I want to say in this post? Umm.. not sure.. I don't think I wanted to say anything so much as just get my thoughts out there... I truely believe that ignoring a person who is a complete a$$, is the best course of action... However.. I do understand that sometimes, because of who you are, you cannot do that, and I, personally, would never fault you for it, as I myself sometimes cannot help but feel like:

"Oh Yeah? Well, allow me to retort..."

Mobycat
08-24-2003, 03:50 PM
Just for the record, it's very VERY rare that I will stoop to that level. Big Boy made a few posts that I thought were a little out there, but I never attacked him per se. I posted that I thought some of thing he said were false, but nothing more.

H12, on the other hand...

Only if someone starts to attack me will I go on the offensive. Even then, it's got to be pretty bad for me to do it.

H12 hit that spot. There's no excuse to start going on about how someone is a "git" or socially inept, or calling them a "fag" or whatever.

He never sent me a PM...I'm disappointed. ;)

Kerry from Cali
08-24-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Mobycat

He never sent me a PM...I'm disappointed. ;)


Oh, well... I wonder how *I* got so lucky?!

I guess I should feel honored. :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes: :p

(snicker/grin)

kerry =)

CapricornDevil
08-26-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Willowisp
I truely believe that ignoring a person who is a complete a$$, is the best course of action... However.. I do understand that sometimes, because of who you are, you cannot do that, and I, personally, would never fault you for it, as I myself sometimes cannot help but feel like:

"Oh Yeah? Well, allow me to retort..."

Everyone on these boards, from newbies to oldtimers, gets to the point of disagreement with someone. I know that towards the beginning of my posting I had a rather bad argument with Kris Hodgson. However, it was resolved, apologies made, and we moved on.

Regardless of how well we may think we are able to handle arguments and disagreements, we all lose our cool time and again. It is one of the numerous faults of being human.

H12 was banned. He won't be able to stir up any more arguments. Hopefully we won't have to deal with someone of his caliber on a regular basis. ;)

redman
08-27-2003, 04:21 AM
amen to that

perfectly said.

pixiness
08-27-2003, 09:33 AM
back to the point - I don't think snape's a vampire. Just a dark, brooding, creepy guy who likes the dark arts.

Rowling doesn't keep many secrets about supporting characters. She usually reveals their backgrounds relatively quickly. The longest we waited for confirmation on anything I can remember is that Hagrid actually IS a giant - and that was eluded to much more heavily than anything having to do with Snape.

Just my two cents

_manuel_
08-27-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Mobycat
Big Boy made a few posts that I thought were a little out there, but I never attacked him per se.


HEY!
:mad:

Anyway if you know me, (which I think very few people here do) you know I enjoy that kind of thing. Call me childish, but there is nothing more fun than to finding self-centered, pretentious bastards like him, getting a pin and popping their little bubble of falseness.

You know what else I noticed? H12 went after almost every one of the "regular" posters in here except me.
I kinda resent that....:(

starphoenix
08-27-2003, 08:26 PM
yeah, i agree with pixiness' statement:

usually supporting characters that are there from the beginning don't harbor any secrets, if they do, they aren't held long (correct me if i'm wrong, maybe i missed something) but it always seems like new characters have something their hiding, and there are hints about it too:

quirrell: the whole voldemort thing (his turban, overhearing words..... and stuff)
lockhart: him being a fraud (he was a disatar: good at nothing)
lupin: werewolf (more subtle clues, but they were there if you read it again)
moody: him not actually being moody (that was tough, very few clues, but one is when he took the map from harry.... he sounded a bit anxious when he asked if he saw who was in the office..... he was tough to catch clues on)
umbridge: though she didn't really have a huge secret, he did have an incredible hatred for harry (it seemed) and its cuz of the ministry. it was her, afterall, who sent the dementors

anyway, back to the points..... there were some hints about them all, and all of them were new characters...... with secrets.....
i know snape has clues as well, but because he's been in since the first book, i doubt he's a vampire...... i don't think rowling would have kept the secret that long

just a thought.....

Cirith Ungol
08-29-2003, 10:49 PM
Wow Huntington . . . You have a lot of good points.

Bambi
09-16-2003, 04:18 AM
Well, as it had been sad before, there are good arguments for and against. Snape is referred to as looking like an 'overgrown bat', etc., in quite a few places. He is also up and roaming the school at night all the time. A similar number of times, we are told that 'Harry had a distinct impression that Snape could read minds', and then, boom, in Book 5 we are told he is excellent at Legillimency, which comes as close to mind-reading as it ever gets in Potterverse. This gives you something to think of, doesn't it? Snape is also described as very pale, even sallow - this clearly means that he doesn't get much or any sun. Whenever he is out, he could be taking some sort of a potion. I just don't know. All we know is that there's got to be something about Snape and his relationship with Dumbledore.

Lost and Damned
09-16-2003, 04:47 PM
well, he could be Half Vampire, in the Horror roleplaying setting of Ravenloft and Masque of the Red Death for the Dungeons & Dragons game, there are women who have given birth to children sired by a vampire, and they are called Dhamphir's (i think i got the spelling right), who can survive in sunlight and look much like Snape does except when they feed on blood (which i think is once a month or week), i believe there are many mtyh's in Europe regarding them and Bram Stoker may have written a few short stories with them in as well (but i don't know that for a fact)

_manuel_
09-16-2003, 06:17 PM
^^ Hmm....That makes sense, but I think that if that was the reason we would heve heard them mentioned by now. At least that's what Rowling seems to like to do.

khriptikal
09-16-2003, 10:41 PM
h12 sems right and thecuttingedge.org says hes1 so i tink so to
he sems eviltoo

_manuel_
09-17-2003, 12:04 AM
Could he be....










SATAN???!!!!

_manuel_
09-17-2003, 12:05 AM
Churchlady > you.

AkDrifter
09-17-2003, 01:53 PM
After reading the books my impression of Snape is he was (and I believe this was in book 5) on Vordermots side till he got zapped trying to kill Harry. After everyone else on vordermots side went into hidding, Snape went straight made amends for his misdeeds gave some good information on other members and is on Dumberdores good side and a member in good standing of the OFTP.

His hatred for Harry comes more from his treatment by Harry's father James as well as Sirius Black when they were all in school together. Even Sirius admits they treated him badly.

Ricky

jpdill
09-21-2003, 04:00 AM
This links directly to my theory that vampires will play a key role in the next book.

Willowisp
09-21-2003, 12:41 PM
Hmm.. That's all I have to say about that... hmm