The Hulk & Charlies Angels 2.....Flops??

[Janey]

The Hulk did get $130mil but had a huge opening of $62mil, but the budget was $137mil. what do you think?

CA2 did get $95mil, and that's only like 26% below the first, but it had a budget of $120mil

what do you think?

[Rocketboy]

Both will make more than their share of money on video and merchandising to make up for what they didn't pull in at the box office.

[Gandollum]

With international gross and dvd + video sales and rentals, both films will get their money back, as for Gigli now thats another story. It had a budget of 54 million plus the the amount of money spent on marketing and it will probably take only 7 mill, now that's a flop.

[Mat]

Gigli and Tomb Raider2 are true flops. These two will probably make up for it in the long run. Especially when people finally see how good Hulk really is. Plus there are enough stupid people in the world to make Charlie's Angels2 successful down the road. :p

[Blueman]

Hulk was such a disspointment to so many! my god it had a 73 percent drop in the second weekend and it lost its 1rst place reign to Charlies ****ing Angels 2

to bad the Hulk had to go out like this

[bludemun]

Originally posted by Mat
Gigli and Tomb Raider2 are true flops. These two will probably make up for it in the long run. Especially when people finally see how good Hulk really is. Plus there are enough stupid people in the world to make Charlie's Angels2 successful down the road. :p


Or you could reverse that and say...
"Especially when people see how good Charlie's Angels 2 is. Plus there are enough stupid people in the world to make Hulk successful down the road."

[Seraph333]

This is when DVD release comes in. Gigli and Tomb Raider 2 were flops for sure.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Yes, both HULK and Charlie's Angels 2 were flops at the boxoffice.

[jorich]

Flops? From a financial viewpoint, neither CA2 or The Hulk can be considered flops. They will recoup the budgets from both movies and even get some profit with international screenings, DVDs, merchandise, and rights.

From a fan or expectations viewpoint, yes indeed...both were flops.

[sphericthor]

So far Hulk has made $210.9million and CA2 has made $218.1million worldwide so they have covered their budgets and are now making profit

[sphericthor]

There are only 5 movies below Gigli in the major box office this year worldwide with its gross standing at $1.5million

Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life has made $37.4million and the producers are blaming the flop on the game that was released earlier this year

[Janey]

TR2 fell 47% second weekend! how did that happen?
now total is $42.6 , i think it will end around $65mil, or half of the original

[Doofy Gilmore]

Janey needs to get wit it.

[Rocketboy]

Originally posted by sphericthor
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life has made $37.4million and the producers are blaming the flop on the game that was released earlier this year Talk about shifitng the blame.
Come on, there aren't THAT MANY people that play the games.

[spiderman_2k]

Placing the blame is pathetic when a film does bad.....

[yeahyeahyeah73]

Movies these days make more on DVD and video than they did in theaters. Therefore, at the very least, Hulk and CA2 will make $200 million on DVD and video, leading them each to at least $400 million overall worldwide, and that's extremely conservative. I don't think you can call a film a flop if it makes $400 million, even if you were initially hoping it would make $500 million. Whether you liked them or not (Hulk was good, CA2 sucked), they're making some dough.

[sunflower03]

i think they were mild flopps. for one thing they released them at a bad time of year for those movies. will several movies coming out in the summer they probably should have held them off until like august or september, or maybe january of next year. also they made money but not as much excepted, and will probably end up covering the cost of what they made in dvd. a true flop would be like gigli that will end up making less then ten million, and probably won't sell hardly any dvds, were movies like the hulk well sell at least a respectable amount of dvds.

[OzzMosiz]

Well I'm a Hulk fan and finally got to see the film yesterday and I thought it was excellent. Ang Lee (in my opinion) did a great job.

[sphericthor]

When has Ang Lee never done a great job

[OzzMosiz]

err well in my opinion he did a great job in Hulk and an amazing job in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

My views may differ to you, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by bludemun
Or you could reverse that and say...
"Especially when people see how good Charlie's Angels 2 is. Plus there are enough stupid people in the world to make Hulk successful down the road."

he was right the first time. so glad the whores flopped.

[Boods]

hulk would have made way more on its opening weekend if every kid in the world wasnt reading harry potter 5 released on 21june
anyway hulk and charlies angels 2 will make up for their money easily with worldwide gross and dvds and all ...

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by OzzMosiz
err well in my opinion he did a great job in Hulk and an amazing job in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

My views may differ to you, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I think you have misunderstood what I said, I asked when has he NEVER done a great job? and I think you read it as when has he EVER done a great job?

[Riddle]

The difference is that Hulk is a good movie, despite what idiots say. And Charlies Angels is *****, despite what idiots say.

People with an IQ higher then 4 will understand.

[Doofy Gilmore]

Originally posted by Riddle
The difference is that Hulk is a good movie, despite what idiots say. And Charlies Angels is *****, despite what idiots say.

People with an IQ higher then 4 will understand.

"Charlies Angels 2" was way better than "Hulk". It had action, and no big green CGI freak running around.

[Riddle]

Originally posted by Doofy Gilmore
"Charlies Angels 2" was way better than "Hulk". It had action, and no big green CGI freak running around.

Ladies and Gentlemen, a man with an IQ lower then 4!

[sphericthor]

Out of the 2, Hulk was better, CA2 was alright and before you start saying that I have an IQ of under 4, I like everyone else am entitled to my own opinion and I also have an IQ of 149 (I have proof if you need it)

[Doofy Gilmore]

Originally posted by Riddle
Ladies and Gentlemen, a man with an IQ lower then 4!

This coming from someone whos a fan of The Tick? What a joke.

[Riddle]

Originally posted by Doofy Gilmore
This coming from someone whos a fan of The Tick? What a joke.

Says the man with a quote from Resident Evil.

[spiderman_2k]

Out of the 2, Hulk was better, CA2 was alright and before you start saying that I have an IQ of under 4, I like everyone else am entitled to my own opinion and I also have an IQ of 149 (I have proof if you need it)

I think sphericthor said it just right when he said he is entitled to his own opinion...Riddle u have to get that not everyone likes what u like...The quicker the do the better...

[Riddle]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
I think sphericthor said it just right when he said he is entitled to his own opinion...Riddle u have to get that not everyone likes what u like...The quicker the do the better...

People are entitled to there opinions. What annoys me is that these same people who complain that American movies are all flash and no substance, support trash like CA2...... You can't have it both ways, people!

[spiderman_2k]

That is some people not all people....

[sphericthor]

If everyone liked the same movies then there wouldn't be much variety, we would be fed the same BS over and over again, and if people want to complain that movies are all flash and no substance then they can and if they want to support CA2 aswell then that's fine because it doesn't affect me in any way.

In fact I'm glad that they do this because it makes Hollywood wake up and take notice as to what the people want in their movies.

[teewee1432]

True. I thought that Charlies angels 2 was a better movie then the Hulk was I saw the movie twice, but I still thought that both movie were good. And none of these two movies can be considered flops because they still made a pretty good chunk of change worldwide. So they made their money back and then some.

[Marvin]

I think that if the Hulk was as much an action movie as Charlies Angels than it would have been a bigger succes.

As shamless as that statement is, people don't seem to be reserved about agreeing with it.

Jeez it's annoying.

Yes Gigli is a flop, I think the Hulk success is very different from that.

CA2 was great for what it was, saying it's bad is like saying a spoof is bad, nuff said.

[Baadshah]

hulk did good in the box office worldwide. It made more than 200 millions, which is pretty good. They already have plans for part 2. They should end with Charles Angels, cheesy movie ever

[necronon99]

bootlegs hurt the box office a little




but both will make their money without question

[ambrosia]

Originally posted by Riddle
The difference is that Hulk is a good movie, despite what idiots say.

So those who didn't like the Hulk are idiots? :(

Easy there Riddle.

[sniktawt]

Riddle, allow me to introduce myself, Marvin knows me, I am the no.1 and I mean NUMBER ONE Hulk hater on these boards.Don't believe me check out the bazillion Hulk threads if you can find em, they're all buried like they should be.The movie was pure ****, do not go on how great this piece of junk was.Charlie's Angels Full throttle was a Joke that knew it was a joke, which made for an enjoyable film.
The Hulk was a joke based purely on the fact it tried to be something it wasn't.It's not an art house character and making him artsy fartsy made it so laughable I nearly puked.Oh, I tried to give it a chance.I seen the damn thing 3 times to see if I was missing something.Each time I realized That's another 10 bucks I wasted.I can get another 30 bucks, It's the 6 hours out of my life i lost that pisses me off.
Call me an idiot, I stand by my opinion, The Hulk Sucked.
And before you say I don't know what I'm talking about , allow me to politely say I was probably reading Hulk comics before you were even born.I know this character, and I know that the Movie sucked.

Did i forget to mention, The Hulk Sucked!!!!!!That's just my opinion, which I am entitled too, it don't make me or anyone else who is right in hating this piece of junk idiots

[Rocketboy]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Oh, I tried to give it a chance.I seen the damn thing 3 times to see if I was missing something.Each time I realized That's another 10 bucks I wasted.I can get another 30 bucks, It's the 6 hours out of my life i lost that pisses me off.
Call me an idiot, I stand by my opinion, [/B] You saw a movie you didn't like 3 times? Okay, I'll take your advice - you're an idiot.

Hulk wasn't a comic book. It was a movie BASED on a comic book. I get the feeling that it would've never lived up to your expectations.

Let it go man.

[Mat]

Charlie's Angels 2 might have been a joke that knew it was a joke, but it still wasn't funny. The Hulk was a very good film made by a great director. If there are people like Charlie's trash, that's their problem. If there are people who hate The Hulk, that is also their problem.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Riddle
The difference is that Hulk is a good movie, despite what idiots say. And Charlies Angels is *****, despite what idiots say.

People with an IQ higher then 4 will understand.

well stated. people that thought chariles whores was good dont understand what it takes for a movie to be good. its a mindless movie. the action scenes are rip-offs of other movies, and the acting sucked horribly. it is a carbon-copy of the first one; therefore lacking any kind of originality. how is this movie considered "good" by anybody? because its ment to be a popcorn flick is not a valid excuse to call this movie "good" by any means.

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Rocketboy
You saw a movie you didn't like 3 times? Okay, I'll take your advice - you're an idiot.





Yeah, you're so right.
But call me fair I tried to give it a chance.

[Rocketboy]

Originally posted by sniktawt
No an idiot is someone who liked the Hulk , i guess you liked it.Probably a lot.Probably the biggest fan of the hulk aren't you ? No, an idot is someone that sees a movie 3 times that he didn't like the first time. What in the hell would make you see it twice more if you hated it the first time?

I probably read 3 or 4 issues in my life. So I guess I am Hulk's biggest fan!

[Marvin]

here we go again.

[Rocketboy]

Originally posted by Marvin
here we go again. Actually no. I'm done with it.

[sniktawt]

So am I . I'm done with The Hulk it SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I edited the message and at the same time Rocketboy quoted it see above.
I was the better person so I edited it, it just happened to be at the same time.

[Marvin]

:rolleyes:

[sniktawt]

Thank you Marvin.

If it means anything, Rocket boy if i offended you. I apologize.
I PM'D you with a full take on why I seen Hulk 3 times.

Mainly to give it a chance.

[Slipknot]

The Hulk was bad, and Charleys Angels was acorss bad, u cant expect much from Chartleys Angels anyways. I would have liked to see The Hulk with better cgi, but the cgi was bad. The whole movie was just bad.

[Riddle]

The main problem that people have with Hulk is that they were expecting a full-blown action movie. That isn't what it is. It is a "real" movie about a man who turns into a big green monster when he gets angry.

If you want mindless fluff, then by all means stick to CA2, Bad Boys 2, or anything else that came off the assembly line this summer.

[Ap2000]

I think both films are shice...
I dislike both of theml

[CWLakers34]

Bad Boys II was 100 times more entertaining than CA2 or Hulk IMO. I don't think you can put them in the same category (well BB2 and CA2 at least).

[Cmoney]

Yeah I really wish people would stop putting bad boys 2 in the same category as CA2. just stop it.

[Doofy Gilmore]

Originally posted by Riddle
Says the man with a quote from Resident Evil.


I guarantee theres plenty more young adults who dig "Resident Evil" than "The Tick". Sounds to me like someones a Toys R Us kid.