Terminator Boxoffice still good...

[mastertips03]

Wow. Terminator held on for the weekend and is now at some 138 million and counting. I thought it might come in at number 9 or ten but instead it came in at number sixth. Still life in this old machine story of good and evil. It looks like the 240 million price tag on this story is starting to look somewhat smaller now that the domestic and overseas boxoffice is estimating this picture to come in at over 500 million. Then you have dvd, vcr, rental, cable and tv revenues also. And I can assure you dvd and vcr sales will be massive. Old Arnold was right from the start. This picture will make money and plenty of it. ;) ;) Maybe they should make it an IMAX experience like the matrix 2.

[spiderman_2k]

Cool....well it is released in the UK on Thursday...

[mastertips03]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Cool....well it is released in the UK on Thursday...

it will be interesting to see how it is received in Mexico this weekend also. I think it opened in several other countries as well. germany and spain....

[Mr.Matinee]

Umm...Yay!!!

[tedward]

It made five million? Thats nothing -its finished (stateside).

[Balrog of Moria]

I wouldnt say finished but its definetly slowed down to almost a standstill

[tedward]

dont say it loudly - but its not going to get anywhere near the matrix reloaded.

[spiderman_2k]

No-one expected it too....
The Matrix is a franchise that kids who saw the first one 4 years ago...we now see the second one...
Terminator 2 was released 13 years ago....thats a long time for people to remain fans and such...

[SkyNet]

this is true, and it doesn't help much that T2 ended the way it did, basically in way that you couldn't truly see another movie being made; i know i didn't.

i think that if cameron said he wouldn't do T3 because of the time constraints (he likes to take his time to make the great movies he does), the company who owned the rights to do T3 should just give him all the time he needs to prepare a damn good script and direct the movie at the pace he feels comfortable with.

The company should know that having him at the helm rather than Mostow would more likely produce a better movie. However, Mostow did pretty good where he's coming from.

[spiderman_2k]

Cameron didnt do T3 because he didnt feel the need for it...

[tedward]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
No-one expected it too....
The Matrix is a franchise that kids who saw the first one 4 years ago...we now see the second one...
Terminator 2 was released 13 years ago....thats a long time for people to remain fans and such...

the terminator is a huge brand though.

and its true one of the reasons cameron didnt do t3 was because the producers wanted it out this year and he didnt want to conform to that.

[spiderman_2k]

If that was the case Cameron had 4 years to make the film...T2 was done and released in about 13 Months..... No matter how huge the brand is releasing a film 12 years after the previous one will no doubt usually be a bad idea....Image Reloaded wasnt released until 2011.....I doubt it would take as much money...

[Mr.Matinee]

Agree,with you totally,Sp_2k.

[tedward]

yea look at the way star wars flopped.

[spiderman_2k]

I cant figure out if that is sarcastic or not.....:confused:
Star Wars has a much, much bigger fan following than Terminator or The Matrix...Maybe even both of them combined...Alot of people live for SW...u hear alot more things about SW fan conventions and such then any other fans, maybe with the exception of Star Trek....

[OzzMosiz]

T3 is now upto about $240 million dollars - not bad!!!
Should rake in $300 million

[Johnny's Apples]

What the hell are you talking about? Are you talking about worldwide? It hasn't crested $200 in the U.S.

[Johnny's Apples]

Sorry $200 million

[spiderman_2k]

I think he has gone 1 digit too high..so it might be $140 million

[Mr.Matinee]

Well,there's the film itself,released on probably every contitnent except for Antartica;There's merchandising;DVD/VHS releases;and all that publicity material.he long run,T3 will warrent enough profit to allow some kickass Future War films to be done!

[spiderman_2k]

Heres Hoping..:D

[captain cocanut]

I just hope theres a T4

[Mr.Matinee]

Originally posted by captain cocanut
I just hope theres a T4
as do I,as do I.

[spiderman_2k]

As do many people....

[tedward]

I dont think there will be.

[Mr.Matinee]

Damnit man,don't take away our dreams!;)

[tedward]

another 2.9 million this week just scraped in to the top 10.

142 million total in america so far.

[tedward]

Apperently its opened at number one in every teritory its been in so far - no surprise there.

It made just under 6 million in its opening week end in the u.k - the 17th biggest u.k opening.

[Johnny's Apples]

The worldwide stats have pushed it well over its budget, meaning it has turned a hefty profit. In lieu of this, I would say there will be a T4. I am hoping it won't take another 13 years to get it.

[OzzMosiz]

$282 million worldwide so far!!

[OzzMosiz]

Spiderman2k no - I'm talking worldwide - that is what really counts, not just the north American box office.

[spiderman_2k]

Well im in the UK so when u do $$$ Its kind of confusing

[sphericthor]

OzzMosiz, maybe it would've helped if you put worldwide in the first post about it's box office total

[spiderman_2k]

Exactly

[OzzMosiz]

Sorry. If I had meant an individual country I would have put it.
I tend to look at the full picture about box office, not about
1 country out of god knows how many in the world.

I'll be more clearer next time.

Anyway 282 million dollars worldwide so far, it's a certainty it will make over 300 million dollars worldwide.

[sphericthor]

It made over £6million in it's first weekend in the UK which is 4 times the amount of the movie in 2nd place

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah i said maybe in this thread maybe another one...That T3 would do very well in the UK...after going to the jam-packed preview it was going to do well...

[OzzMosiz]

yeah and even better is that Legally Blond 2 is number 2. It got roasted by T3 (in the UK)

[spiderman_2k]

Well i seen that aswell....::waa:
Went with a bunch of girls...but it was NOT worth it...

[captain cocanut]

I sure T3 will go close to 350 or more world wide... and with DVD sales... it'll push it to over 450 million IMO

[spiderman_2k]

And that should definatly warrant a sequel IMO

[anma22]

Yes but the studio only gets half the grosses so T3 will have to gross 480 million to make up for the 200 million making and 40 million in marketing cost. And a big DVD makes about an avarage of 20-50mil not 100mil.

So if there is a squel it will most likely be at a lower budget.

[spiderman_2k]

Well they shouldnt need to shell out $30,000,000 for Arnie in a sequel....

[Johnny's Apples]

So in this post we discussed that this film has grossed almost $300 million worldwide, yet there was an article that just posted on the CSI main page that said it will crest $200 million internationally next weekend. I'm a little confused, which is it. I know I read somewhere that worldwide it has grossed well over $200 million and Ozzmosis stated that it was $282 million a few days ago. Where does this movie really stand? I'm lost.

[OzzMosiz]

yes it has made 200 million internationally (that normally excludes the US) so with Domestic and International it is around $340million.

[captain cocanut]

So what's the real budget for the movie... some say 170 plus 30 million in marketing....


Others say 200 million with 40 million marketing...


I think it's 170.... cause Arnold himself said when they went over budget... he pay for it himself.....


Plus the movie is bank rolled by TWO studios...... WB gets the domestic gross... Columbia get's international one I think.

So that's too helps cut cost... WB spend 100 million... and made 150... plus DVD that's 200 +

Columbia put down 100and made 200 + international DVDs.... that 250 +


So all in all... this is a very profitable movie....

[OzzMosiz]

Production budget was around $170 million. Promotional budget I have no idea. Probably at least $30 million but it could be more.

I think a lot of the $200 million budget thats been thrown around
is total including promotion.

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah i think it it aswell..It had quite abit of promotion

[SkyNet]

Originally posted by captain cocanut
So what's the real budget for the movie... some say 170 plus 30 million in marketing....


Others say 200 million with 40 million marketing...


I think it's 170.... cause Arnold himself said when they went over budget... he pay for it himself.....


Plus the movie is bank rolled by TWO studios...... WB gets the domestic gross... Columbia get's international one I think.

So that's too helps cut cost... WB spend 100 million... and made 150... plus DVD that's 200 +

Columbia put down 100and made 200 + international DVDs.... that 250 +


So all in all... this is a very profitable movie....

sorry, but i disagree. For a movie as popular as the Terminator series and its great potential at being a huge blockbuster, i would have to say that for a new Terminator movie it would need to domestically gross $300,000,000 (eg. Finding Nemo). However, it presently sits at $146,000,000, not nearly the FULL potential of a Terminator sequel. :(

[spiderman_2k]

It may have made as much money u hope it would had it been released a few years ago...12 years is a long time between sequels...Alot of people didnt think the series still had it in it...It did which was good, but alot of people didnt bother with it knowing that no Cameron was involved and that it had been so long since T2....

[SkyNet]

I'm sure those are some of the reasons why. Assuming if the production companies resolved the problem in 1997, Cameron might have made T3 and release it in '98 or '99 and it could have turned out better than it has by Mostow for 2003.

i think people don't care anymore because of the time period. Everyone wants new movies like X-Men, Matrix, Finding Nemo, POTC, Seabiscuit, SWAT........

funny thing is that every movie i wanted to be amazing turned out mediocre, and the movies i thought were going to bomb turned out awesome. I feel cursed somehow. :(

Reloaded: 7/10
T3: 8/10
BB2: 7/10
TR2:TCOL - 7/10
damn.

Seabiscuit: 9/10
POTC: 9/10
Finding Nemo: 9/10
SWAT: 9/10
damn....

[spiderman_2k]

T3 is my fav movie of the summer...have yet to see Nemo, seabiscuit and SWAT....(none of them released in the UK yet)

[Balrog of Moria]

POTC here...I think you all know my views on T3

[SkyNet]

well, unlike most people who thought T3 would suck or be mediocre, i for one actually thought it would turn out amazing. I guess i should stop watching those damn trailers over and over.........i had too much expectations out of it, but looking back, its still one of the best action movies this year period.

[spiderman_2k]

I thought it would be great and i wasnt disappointed...

[SkyNet]

hmm......what was the best aspect of the movie? I'd have to say the development (finally) of John Connor's character and the fall of judgment day (ending).

[spiderman_2k]

The end definatly...loved that it was a typical happy ending

[tedward]

the best part of the movie?....the destruction.

[SkyNet]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
The end definatly...loved that it was a typical happy ending

lol......it brings tears to my eyes how beautiful it was. :waa:

It made me feel so in touch with my masculin side. :hehe:

[spiderman_2k]

Worst thing----IMO the TX was crap

[SkyNet]

no way......the T-X was hot. :eek:

worst thing was the silliness of the dialogue and some lame jokes.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[spiderman_2k]

Yes but the TX being hot is what made her the worst thing...She was in no way intimidating..which she was intended to be...

[SkyNet]

But she kicked Arnold's butt in the men's washroom. I'd say that's intimidating enough! :D

[Balrog of Moria]

I would have loved for her to kick my ass....Thats not good

[spiderman_2k]

Exactly..shes sexy and stands out...The T-1000 could be the guy next door..plus hes a creepy looking guy..thats what makes him intimidating

[Johnny's Apples]

I think she was an intimidating She-***** of an android. The TX is Evil with PMS! "Run for it Marty"

[spiderman_2k]

.....
U thought she was intimidating?? :hehe:...

[Johnny's Apples]

I think a woman with PMS can be more scary than arnold any day.

[spiderman_2k]

:hehe:

But point stands TX was not scary

[Balrog of Moria]

Its scary that ill never have her if thats what you mean

[Johnny's Apples]

I don't know if that's scary or a tragedy for most men. Let's face it, the reason the TX is scary is the same reason that Hilary will never be President. We can't afford to go to war every 28 days. The TX is full cycle all the time. I was kinda wondering midway when she would start pulling Arnold's hair and scratching him.

[Johnny's Apples]

Originally posted by Balrog of Moria
POTC here...I think you all know my views on T3

What movie is POTC?

[OzzMosiz]

Pirates Of The Carribbean - not that brilliant to be
honest, very averagy.
Good performance from Johnny Depp though.

[Sims17]

Pirates of the Carribbean - not that brilliant??
Its one of the best films this summer easily. better than T3.
Whats so average about it??

[spiderman_2k]

I thought POTC was good...though i didnt like it more than T3 due to the fact it seemed to drag on a little....

[OzzMosiz]

It was long, Orlando Bloom was dull. The background characters were mostly dull (with the exception of the guy from The Office).

It was like a childs film. Johhny Depp was the saviour of that
film.

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah but it was marketed as a childs film....Its based on a ride at Disney...what else is it going to be?? The rest i agree with u...This is second on my list of favs this year

[captain cocanut]

Freddy vs Jason... just went on top of my list of favorite movie of the year.... Sorry T3... your down to second.:(

[spiderman_2k]

Im sure its ego isnt too badly hurt...;)

[tedward]

what are you doing up posting at 3:30 in the morning spidey?

[spiderman_2k]

Couldnt sleep that well.....never do really

[sphericthor]

I do that sometimes, although I wake up and post

[mastertips03]

Terminator 3 is a monster hit in all the countries it has played. some 200 million to date and counting along with 150 million domestically should land T3 around the 450 to 500 million boxoffice before it is done. then you have dvd, rentals, cable and tv. that budget of 240 million seems insignificant right about now.

[spiderman_2k]

Insignificant??....Not such a major issue is how i would describe it...

[sphericthor]

$366,800,000 the last time I checked, so it has made a huge profit