Star Wars: Galaxies

[Alexander JL]

Finally it's released, and I'll get it soon!

For all you who do have it, I have some questions...

Can we own a ship in the game? And if so, can we fly it? It would be cool to do that, and would be very realistic. If ships are in the game, do we get to move around in them? I.e: Will we get to explore the interior of a starship while it is flying?

Similarly, while taking shuttles across planets, will we be faced with a very bland "LOADING" screen, or will we be put inside the shuttle itself, and get to walk back and forth?

[Oj]

Personal ships will be added in an expansion.

[Alexander JL]

Those rat finks!

[Fanible]

Yeah theres quite a few things being added with the first expansion. It seemed to me like they just thought they should make sure to get it out on time. So they just held some stuff back and are having a big add-on with the exp. Well I can wait.

[Alexander JL]

Me too. Star Wars just isn't the same without cool hovercars and epic space battles.

[Mr. Pink]

Originally posted by Fanible
Well I can wait.

Yeah. But can you afford the monthly fee you have to pay for the crappy version until the expansion is released?

[Scoundrel]

It seems absurd that you end up spending something like £160 for a game over a year it may be good but it cant be that good...

[Alexander JL]

Originally posted by Mr. Pink
Yeah. But can you afford the monthly fee you have to pay for the crappy version until the expansion is released?

I assumed he meant that he'll wait until after the expansion is released before he buys it...

[Oj]

Originally posted by Scoundrel
It seems absurd that you end up spending something like £160 for a game over a year it may be good but it cant be that good...

I've never played SWG, but I have played several other MMORPG's that have a monthly fee, and I've never had a problem with paying them. Everquest, a very popular MMOG, which started around 1999, broke even last summer. Without the monthly fees, the games wouldn't work out, mainly due to server maintenance and bandwidth costs. You'd really have to play an MMORPG to understand what makes them different from normal games.

[Sub_zero3]

Are they the same as the arcade kind?

[Alexander JL]

Anyone know if the game's planets are scaled to real world size? As in are the SW locales roughly the same size as what you would expect the places to be if they were real, or is everything minaturized so that you can literally go from Obi-Wans hut to Skywalker farm, and from farm to town in just five minutes?

[Fanible]

The reason they can charge a monthly fee for an MMORPG is mainly because people WILL pay it. The game keeps you hooked (most do anyway). You'll be playing it A LOT. They're much different than other games, and they require a ton of game time, more than any other game.

In order to keep such massive worlds stable and well worth the time as well, is they have a crew that do nothing but work on updates, patches, fixes and expansions for the game. Meaning you have a game thats constantly being upgraded and controlled.

The games are massive, and anyone who has the time to play them knows its worth the money to pay for them. They indulge you into their depthness extremely, and you won't want to stop playing. It wouldn't be worth the money only if you couldn't give enough gameplay time to it. And honestly 10-15 dollars isn't that big a deal for me.

And no, I don't think SWG is crappy at the moment, it just doesn't have everything I want currently. Which mainly is being able to freespace fly from planet to planet and around in space to have actual space wars and whatnot. Right now it's basicly a mix of Ultima Online, Everquest, and Dark Age of Camelot. They've done a great job mixing the best elements of the best current MMORPG's.

Once the expansion comes out and adds in all the other extra features, they'll just make the game better. But the game isn't not worth playing just cause you don't have those at the moment.

I will say though, that while it's fun, my gametime will be over and my account will be sold once World of Warcraft is released. That MMORPG looks badass (plus I don't like paying and playing multiple MMORPG's at a time). Thats also one beauty of MMORPG's, is that once you're done playing, if you actually put some time into it, you'll have an account worth selling, and you'll get quite a bit of money back from what you spent on it, maybe even more so.

Originally posted by Alexander JL
Anyone know if the game's planets are scaled to real world size? As in are the SW locales roughly the same size as what you would expect the places to be if they were real, or is everything minaturized so that you can literally go from Obi-Wans hut to Skywalker farm, and from farm to town in just five minutes?

The planets are pretty well in scale to the movie I suppose. We don't really know how big the planets are, and planets can be as big as the designers want to make them. But yes it'll take you a long time if you walk from city to city on a planet. You'd best take shuttles or something. However when taking shuttles its not going to have you sit and just wait for a certain period of time until it reaches. If running or walking, it'd take a realistic amount of time, but shuttles get you there instantly.

I mean, realism is good and all, but you don't want to bore the players. MMORPG's take enough patience as it is.

[Alexander JL]

Realism... hmmm... What I hope though, is that when Space Travel (or whatever they will call it) expansion pack is released, we can leave the ship on autopilot and just wander around the interiors of the ship (a la Luke and the gang in A New Hope). Or better yet, be able to bring passengers who can wander around the ship and use it like a travelling house... a flying trailer if you will. lol

Hmm you mentioned realism... So tell me, is Luke's farm and Obi Wan's hut REALLY obvious and stand out when you explore the game? Or do you have to hunt through several hundred similar looking structures before you find them? In other words, are they realistically placed?

[Fanible]

As I havn't explored Luke's home planet, I have no clue. Im not sure they have a spot that they have titled Luke's home. It doesn't really have anything to do with the game, and it really wouldn't ever. There's probably just several similiar type homes. The only thing you're going to find replicas of really is the cities, which they've done a fairly good job. Naboo is pretty cool.

Anyways, I think the space battles will be just like a freespace game. People have always wanted freespace games where you are on a ship as well, but that requires a whole different design, and the purpose is pretty pointless as you wouldn't do anything. When you pilot your own ship, chances are you'll either fly to fairly near locations for battles in the regions or stations or something, but then when you wanto really get somewhere, you have light speed. The need for autopilot won't really have a need. And as interesting as putting your ship on autopilot and exploring the interior and talking to your mates would be, it'd have no point at all.

But hey, atleast you can still hang out in the bars and dance like a fairy. ;)

[Alexander JL]

I guess I can see your point, but at least let us walk around the inside of the ship accessible while docked so we can use it as a storage room... That would be cool. Oh well...

Btw Fannible, hope this helps...

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Secrets of Naboo

---Loc--- ---Description---
-7565 / +2265 Gungan monument
-6370 / +6500 Skewered Gungan
-5913 / +4822 Cool Cliff
-5900 / +4100 Theed City
-5520 / +3367 Fairly good sized mountain lake
-5490 / +4550 Inside Theed Royal Palace
-5400 / +4500 Theed Royal Palace
-5100 / -100 "Beach Town"
-5032 / +2782 Imperial Base
-4347 / +4167 Huge Waterfall
-3892 / +496 Swamp
-3530 / +2075 Small islet in the middle of a river
-3372 / +3834 Gungan statues
-3150 / +2600 Water Ruins
-2000 / -5400 Gungan Sacred Place - Boss Nass
+1920 / +2630 Moenia City
+1999 / +2568 Gungan statues
+2400 / -3900 Emperor's Retreat
+3000 / +5000 Base
+3400 / +5000 Ruins
+3600 / +5100 Rebel Base
+3992 / +0 Very high cliffs with beautiful overlooks of river
+4241 / -6118 Lianorm Swamps
+4793 / +5582 Rebel Base
+4800 / -3000 Jungle
+4800 / -1000 Cool "swampy" type place
+4900 / -1300 Deeja City
+5102 / +6661 Beachville Hospital
+5160 / +6790 Beachville City
+5700 / -1600 Gallo Mountains
+5838 / -4666 Big cave outside Moenia

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Secrets of Yavin-4

---Loc--- ---Description---
-7550 / -440 Massassi Sacrificial Stone (with human skeleton)
-6900 / -5700 Labor Outpost (Starport)
-6490 / +7350 Massassi Ruins (with Thug spawn)
-6350 / -670 Massassi Pyramid
-4750 / +4960 Massassi Statue
-4689 / -5420 A statue of some sort
-4150 / +5330 Death Star Turret
-3100 / -3030 Imperial Temple
-1600 / -800 Cave
-900 / -2020 Kliknik Temple
-300 / +4900 Mining Outpost (Starport)
+300 / -4440 Massassi Pyramid/Ruins
+320 / -5300 Burning Tree
+320 / -3140 Death Star Turret Barrel
+480 / -620 Temple of the Woolamander
+910 / +3560 Massassi Ruins
+940 / +4450 Massassi Statue
+950 / -1450 Gazebo
+1980 / -5310 Stone faces (3 in the side of a hill)
+4000 / -6200 Imperial Base
+4010 / -2850 Large stone face (in mountain side)
+5900 / -4320 Crater (possibly from Death Star explosion)
+7220 / -1400 More deathstar wreckage

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Secrets of Corelia

---Loc--- ---Description---
-6500 / +6000 CorSec Base
-4311 / -518 Tabages Dungeon
-4250 / +3630 Broken White Brigde
-2517 / +2922 Afarathu Cave
-1905 / +3988 Statue
-1753 / -3292 Crashed Pod, half covered by sand
-1639 / -15 Droid Graveyard
-204 / +4577 Serji-X Arrogantus (NPC)
+327 / +4358 Agrilat Swamp (Very cool place)
+1031 / +4203 Drall Cave
+1400 / -300 Nyax Cultists Outpost
+1806 / +4989 Ignar Ominaz (NPC)
+2547 / +4744 A wall in the middle of nowhere
+5200 / +1600 CorSec Rebel base on an island in the Eastern Sea
+6307 / +4376 A NPC Wind generator farm

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Secrets of Tatooine

---Loc--- ---Description---
-6183 / -3371 Sarlacc Pit
-6174 / +5888 crashed escape pod and gravestones
-6110 / 1892 Jawa Fortress
-5868 / -6189 Jabba's Palace
-5270 / +2810 Oasis
-5249 / +2551 "The Shrub"
-4773 / -3009 Ben Kenobi's Hut
-4670 / -4350 Krayt Skeleton
-4642 / -1912 Krayt Skeleton
-4000 / +6250 Fort Tuskan
-3933 / -4417 R2/3PO Escape Pod
-3880 / -800 Beggar's Canyon
-3039 / -5104 Hedge maze
-2600 / -5500 Lars Homestead
-1470 / +3730 Arnthout
-1100 / -3000 Small Camp
-696 / -6728 Darklighter Residence
-695 / -6725 Tosche Station
+36 / -112 Cave
+133 / +4127 Pod Race Track Start
+1807 / -6061 Oasis
+6283 / -422 Oasis
+6645 / +5453 Oasis
+6854 / +4333 Krayt Graveyard

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Secrets of Dantooine

---Loc--- ---Description---
-7236 / +4324 Large sharp pointed stones arranged in a line with fence
-7212 / -806 Large native village on one of the larger lakes
-7085 / -6149 Native huts
-6952 / +5614 Large head like the ones you find on Naboo
-6947 / +5614 Huge abandoned Rebel base that Princess Leia mentions
-6196 / +2670 Native huts
-6143 / +4675 A set of stone arches that zig-zag up to a stone disk
-6028 / +1123 Native huts
-5784 / +3421 Native huts
-5549 / +4507 Two carved heads facing each other across a small gorge
-5389 / +1387 Somewhat buried disk with two large logs on either side
-4974 / +6386 Carved head with 3 Jedi era columns around it
-4553 / +2728 Circle of sharp pointed stones
-4495 / +1636 Jedi era building on top of a hill
-4436 / +5295 Native huts
-4217 / +4235 Columns leading up to an arch way (Jedi era)
-4209 / +2354 Imperial Outpost with space port
-3841 / -5749 Large native village
-3648 / +3971 3 carved heads and 2 totems on hill
-3409 / +2913 Step pyramid with carved head on top
-3127 / +3394 Jedi area causeway across a lake
-2480 / +4599 Small hill with spiked stone outcroppings
-2421 / +3370 Ruined building
-2015 / +1432 Native huts
-2004 / +1243 Adobe hut with large metal pipe out the top
-1818 / +3794 Animal heads stacked on top of one another with one totem
-1587 / +5486 Tent (Native)
-1473 / +2669 Ruined stone building
-1189 / +4156 Large head buried in the side of hill overlooking a lake
-897 / +6883 A step pyramid
-781 / +2087 Jedi era building and arch on Island near the mining camp
-712 / +1463 3 totems forming a triangle (with a tree in the middle)
-647 / +675 Mountain top lake (small)
-617 / +2515 Mining outpost with space port
-478 / +2075 Stone head about to fall in to a lake
-292 / +6883 Two carved heads with one laying down
-202 / +5955 Fenced in pond with totem and animal skeleton
+130 / +5242 Buried step pyramid with alter still exposed
+237 / +2171 Set of columns across river
+338 / +5543 Stone outcropping of rock with a totem in front of it
+446 / +4646 Jedi era ruins (basically one building)
+563 / +1873 Rock outcropping (not natural)
+897 / +1393 Buried Jedi era arch
+1033 / +3606 Lake Platform with 2 native huts on it
+1158 / +5752 Jedi era arch (hooded person holding sword upright) overlooking lake
+1567 / +6417 Agro Outpost with space port
+1586 / +5959 Native huts
+1927 / +1467 Native huts
+2077 / +5334 Jedi era circle of ruined columns
+2317 / +6196 3 carved heads along lake
+2885 / +4482 Adobe style arch with flames coming out the top
+3087 / +1217 3 carved heads on a small island all facing outward
+3181 / +5967 Native hut with 2 totems and a fenced in coral
+4154 / +5254 Jedi Temple and Academy
+4630 / +3643 Stone arch that leads to a head with several carved heads on each side
+4873 / +4508 2 native huts in semi wooded area
+5019 / +6841 Ruined building
+5270 / -4573 Wood bridge and fence
+5900 / -16 Four stone arches that form a box

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Dungeon Guide

Naboo
+5702 / -1544
+5838 / -4666

Corellia
-2517 / +2922

Talus
+5918 / +4673

Tatooine
+64 / -81

Rori
+900 / –5000

Dantooine
+4154 / +5254 Behind the waterfall, right behind the Jedi Temple

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Battlefields

Corellia
+1319 / +4172 PVP
-1870 / –1223 PVE – Imperial Only
+3785 / –4037 PVE – Rebel Only

Naboo
-4113 / –533 PVP
-3762 / –5377 PVE – Imperial Only
-5044 / +6662 PVE – Rebel Only

Rori
-1201 / +4171 PVP

Talus
-5355 / +2783 PVP

Tatooine
+2488 / +4388 PVP
-2033 / –669 PVP
+4950 / +4650 PVE – Imperial Only
-2780 / –1580 PVE – Rebel Only

[Alexander JL]

Does anyone know if the 'camera' in Star Wars Galaxies is fixed and constant? (like in most 3rd person PC games), or if it is floating (like in most Xbox games, where mouse controls the camera)?

[Fanible]

It's sorta constant, but yeah the mouse controls the camera. You have a cursor that the mouse controls and you follow it depending on where you point it. I dunno, you'd have to check it out.

[Alexander JL]

Hey Fannible, lets hook up in game!

[Fanible]

Okie dokie. You'll have to join my server and planet. My character is currently on Naboo I believe.

[JAE]

http://wookie.jaj.com/

Is this from Galaxies? I know you can be a dancer, but damn.

[Fanible]

Ok, yeah you can actually dance like that. That music was added in though.

But yeah, the dancing is pretty hilarious in the game. The only music ive come across that you can dance to is music that a musician is playing, and you don't even really dance exactly on beat like that. You could start dancing without music and it would still be the same beat really.

That menu is from Galaxies though, and thats a wookie. He just started his guy dancing that way, and played the music in the backround.

[JAE]

Thats hysterical. How do you dance? How do you perform those different moves, there was a bunch of them.

[Alexander JL]

I believe you type it down. This game seems more like a giant chatroom compared to other mmorpgs... Rather than point and click, you type "/dance" to dance... Or so I've gathered from what I've seen.

[Fanible]

There's also a menu drop that tells you all the actions you're capable of doing by typing it in. Theres hundreds.

Doing different dances or doing something other than the crazy one you start out with, requires you to learn entertainer/dancer.

Also, once you start dancing, like the dance you saw in that video, it's automatic the moves. It just goes from step to step.

[Alexander JL]

Fannible, since your the resident expert on SWG, could you tell me if droids are ownable in the game? And if so, are they very chatty like C3P0, or are they pretty much mute? And what happens to them when you log out?

[D@re_Devil]

is this game worth all the money?

[Alexander JL]

Depends if you like it or not.

[D@re_Devil]

well do you like it?

[Scarlet spidey]

I'm Poor:(

[Fanible]

I find that it's worth the money. You have to enjoy it enough that it's going to keep you playing it constantly for a long time. And most MMORPG's have you do just that. Most your gametime will be taken up by it, and since theres so much to do, it'll be worth it usually.

All it comes down to is if it meets your taste. Theres tons of MMORPG's to choose from. But ive found that most of the ones ive played have kept me playing them for a very long time, which is why I only play one at a time. I can't play more than one, each game takes way too much dedication.

Anyways, for you Alexander, I don't currently own any droids, but yes you can own them. As for their personality traits, I have no clue. I don't think they talk a lot like C3PO. They're just guide bots kinda. But like I said, I don't have one, so I can't really say.

I do own a scout bot droid though, like the ones that landed in Empire Strikes Back in the beginning. You can store stuff in it and it can help fight with you.

[Scarlet spidey]

sweet:)

[Alexander JL]

I saw a few screenshots, but I don't get why Han Solo wears his vest and pants in a default light brown color... Isn't there a 'dye tub' in the game?

http://www.swg-de.com/gallerie/photodb/vips5.jpg

[Scarlet spidey]

He looks liek Indiana Jones:p

[Fanible]

Designers just mucked up i guess.

[Oj]

I just got it, and though it's not quite what I expected, I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's much more similar to Ultima Online than I thought it would be. If any of y'all happen to start a character on Scylla, look me up. My in-game name is Xiaer.

[Alexander JL]

Originally posted by Fanible
Designers just mucked up i guess.

That's one hell of a thing to muck up... Its almost like coloring Darth Vader's saber pink...

[spiderman_2k]

Hehehe what an image.. :D
D.V "Join me and together we shall the universe"
Luke"Father..why is ur lightsaber pink??"
D.V".....Nuts"

[Fanible]

All I know is that I want to become a Jedi, and NOW! Obviously only veterans who will have played constantly for a year or two will become Jedi's. No one knows how or even if you can at the moment.

No strategy guide will tell you. Everyone is wondering, but no one knows how, and who knows when we'll know.

[Alexander JL]

I like that becoming a Jedi is nearly impossible, since there weren't any Jedi's running about in the OT except for Luke, Obi-Wan, and Yoda.

But I think its mostly chance that will unlock it.

[Tenafly Viper]

The Devs have predicted that the first Force Sensitive Slot will be activated within the next 2 months. Their initial prediction was 6 months before a Force user would appear in game. This leads me to believe that the current system is TOTAL experience points based. They've also said that none of the current in game characters will ever become Jedi. Once the FSS is activated the player will be informed that they now have the ability to create an additional Force character. Which means starting all over from scratch. They freely admit that Jedi will be the most powerful characters but also make it perfectly clear how difficult playing a Jedi or learner will be. Due to the fact that Force users are aggressively hunted in this time frame. Jedi unlike other character have only a certain number of allowed kills before perma-death, those who make it to level of Jedi Master and who are some how killed will be granted access as a blue glowy like Obi-wan, but that's it. All Force users must become at least Jedi Knight before the Darkside route is available to them. All in all it sounds interesting and challenging. I'm looking forward to the first in game lightsabre battle.

[Alexander JL]

Other characters other than Jedi can suffer permadeath?

[Tenafly Viper]

No, any other character that is killed will reclone at the nearest Cloning Center. If a character has stored clone data available no HAM (Health, Action, Mind meters) damage will assessed to the new clone. Also if a character has paid for item insurance all their weapons, tool, clothing etc. will be available at reclone, if not the character must corpse run to retrieve the lost items.
Only the Jedi die permanently. I've heard it said that the only thing that could match the title of Jedi Master in prestige would be the character that can say they've killed one.

[Alexander JL]

OK Question: Do you have to apply for item insurance EVERY single time you die? Or is it a one shot deal?

[Tardumb]

I take it one likely needs at least a cable or dsl connection to play this...

[Fanible]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
OK Question: Do you have to apply for item insurance EVERY single time you die? Or is it a one shot deal?

No. It auto-insures everytime you die, just as long as you can pay for it. It costs something to insure I think, and then it costs something when you get the item back. It should still be insured after you get it back.

Originally posted by Tardumb
I take it one likely needs at least a cable or dsl connection to play this...

Well you can play 56k, but it won't be as much fun. zEspecially for the PvP part.

[Tardumb]

Originally posted by Fanible

Well you can play 56k, but it won't be as much fun. zEspecially for the PvP part.

That's what I figured....cruddy

[Alexander JL]

And don't forget you need more than 256mb RAM to play... I play with 256, and it's incredibly laggy in towns, and close to impossible to move about inside the cantina...

[Tenafly Viper]

Alex I agree I'm maxed out in RAM and still some of the planets sub-servers are horrible in terms of lag.....Especially Tantooine, this problem with lag is something new. I first noticed it about a week ago, but now it has gotten worse. I hope SOE fixes it soon. Until that happens I’m sticking to the less populated planets, which seem to be lag free at the moment.

[Oj]

I've actually had very few problems with lag. I'm on the Scylla server, and the only problem I consistently have has to with trees and other objects loading too late. A forest just appears around me. I am running on a gig of RAM, though.

[Tenafly Viper]

How about Agro spawning Oj? Do they just suddenly pop up around you? I haven't experienced this problem myself but a few people that I know in game have complained about this.

[Oj]

It's happened once or twice, but I can usually out run them if I'm unable to defeat them.

[Kris Hodgson]

I really like how they are handling Jedi. It makes it much truer to the story. If anyone could be a Jedi, EVERYONE would be a jedi. And that would suck.

[Tenafly Viper]

I agree...........

I found out today that there will only be between 5 & 12 sets of Player assessable Mandalorian Armor per server and they'll be restricted to the Bounty Hunter Class. Which is cool, this way ArmorSmith' won't be able too mass produce them. It would be stupid if there were 1000 Boba Fett looking players in the game.

[Alexander JL]

Originally posted by Tenafly Viper
How about Agro spawning Oj? Do they just suddenly pop up around you? I haven't experienced this problem myself but a few people that I know in game have complained about this.

I've had this problem myself... Usually I'm out walking, and all of a sudden reds pop up right behind me on the radar...

Evil npcs also love spawning near my house for some reason...

[Alexander JL]

I found this post on another message board, and I thought it was a pretty cool idea...

How about this for an Expansion Pack idea?

An Expansion Pack set somewhere in Episode I or II (or in between), where Jedis ruled, and the galaxies were much more intense and heated than the OT?

An Expansion Pack where you could choose Jedi as a starting profession since there already were hundreds (thousands perhaps) of Jedis running about the galaxies. Or if your tastes preferred, you could fall to the dark side...

An Expansion Pack where pod races were a reality (and racing could be a profession), and where you could get into pitched battles where hundreds of droids, gungans, clones, and Jedi fought side by side...

And maybe, having underwater exploration on Naboo which would use the same system that space travel uses so that not much invention (except graphics) would be required by the DEVs.

Wouldn't that be cool? How about that for an idea, devs?

Of course, characters on the OT servers would naturally be untransferrable, but it would be awesome to have all new servers for an expansion pack along those lines... What do you guys think?

[Tenafly Viper]

I know that Pod Racing is definitely one of the coming expansions. It will probably be part of the whole space expansion.

I'd also like to see a planet like Hoth in game.

[uglyfishdude]

How many hours each day are you guys playing this game? I've got limited time, but would love to play...I just don't want to waste the money though and have my character be too weak since I won't be able to play hours every day like the hardcore gamers.

[Tenafly Viper]

Not alot....
The way the game is set up if you're a non-faction noob you can't be outright attacked by other player characters. They can only challenge you to duel, which you can decline. Once you choose a faction, which is optional, you can be either an overt or covert rebel/imperial. The game also recognizes a players level and adjusts missions accordingly. That's not saying the game is easy, but you won't be a target for the more hardcore players.

[Alexander JL]

Apparently once player run towns are introduced, everyone will be attackable when you enter any player run town by their appointed militia... That's a good, and a very bad thing...

[Tenafly Viper]

Really....... wow, that should make things kind of interesting.

[Alexander JL]

So, anyone play this game?

[Oj]

I do. I have a Wookiee Marksman on Scylla.

[darthspielberg]

How much can you control about your player. Weight, Height, Facial features, stuff like that. I don't know why but i enjoy that part of the game. Designing the player.

[Oj]

Height, eyes (color and size), skin/fur tone, jaw size, mouth size, nose size, ear size, breast size (females only, it's called "torso"), tentacles (for Twi'leks), etc. There's probably more.

[Nilade]

I pllyed Everquest for almost a year, and Dark Age Of Camelot about 3 months, and I have to say that Star Wars Galaxies blows them both away. Where the other games tended to get a bit repetitive at times (hunt, camp, kill, craft, level, repeat), this game just has sooooo much you can do. I love the idea that I can train in almost anything and everything (so many character personality possibilities), and the fact that any action you take makes you stronger in a variety of different traits, rather than the common level advance. The game is not without its flaws. Evenwith the powered up gaming PC I'm constantly upgrading, and my cable modem, the game still has a lot of lag, which I'm sure they will clean up eventually. Also, its way too easy to earn credits, and some of the missions are too easy. They definitly need to bump the difficulty factor. Its a very immersive environment, and the community are really spirited and supportive. I'm very picky about games, but this would get 5 out of 5 stars, hands down. By the way, I play on Tarniqas. My character is Riithy Vaanak.

[Alexander JL]

I'm a human smuggler on the Starsider server myself, hehe, we should all join one server and start a SWG CS PA lol

[IdahoMR2man]

Wow....I had no idea this game was so old. I JUST bought it this weekend and I'm addicted. But I really really suck.