King Arthur

[Omega Supreme]

Just saw this on IMDB - Jerry Bruckheimer is producing this one and it's filming now, so it should be a very polished movie at any rate. Here's the IMDB plot outline:

"Based on a more realistic portrayal of "Arthur" than has ever been presented onscreen. The film will focus on the history and politics of the period during which Arthur ruled -- when the Roman empire collapsed and skirmishes over power broke out in outlying countries -- as opposed to the mystical elements of the tale on which past Arthur films have focused."

"Although the legend of King Arthur has not been historically established as fact, this film will attempt to place King Arthur within his possible historic context, smack between the fall of the Roman Empire (just a few hundred years after Gladiator) and the long road through the Dark Ages (roughly set in the 5th or 6th centuries). The magic and fantasy of the legend will be absent (Merlin may still be around; just not performing the magic seen in Excalibur)."

It sounds interesting. It sounds a little along the lines of Stephen Lawhead's Pendragon Cycle of books. I've always love Arthur, the Round Table, Camelot and the whole bag, so I'm looking forward to seeing this.

Clive Owen has been cast as Arthur. I only know him from the Bourne Identity.

Does anyone else know anything about this one?

[Frizzo the Clown]

I've heard about this project before, however before now, I didn't know any specifics. I'm a big fan of Arthurian literature, so I certianly can't wait to see what becomes of this.

[Harley Quinn]

Yeah, im really excited about this film too since I love period films and been wanting to see a new take on the story of King Arthur. I'm also excited about the casting of Kiera Knightley as Guenevere and Clive Owen as King Arthur. If you want more info go to upcomingmovies.com, they have all the info on the movie. :)

[KayTang999]

I have been waiting for someone to start this thread.

I know a little bit and that probably because I am kind of following Keira Knightley work, she will be Guineviere (SP). Ioan Gruffudd will be Lancelot. I think they are making more like a historical point of view than legend.

[Omega Supreme]

I like the fact that Jerry Bruckheimer is producing. Everything he's been involved with is pure class and put together very well and with intelligence.

It's due out in the US Xmas day 2004. Are movies usually released on Christmas day??

And, I thought I knew the name Ioan Gruffud from somehwere. It's good old Horatio Hornblower!!

Woohoo!!

[KayTang999]

Wow, that is great that you know Ioan cause unless you have seen that, you wouldn't have know him.

[Mat]

Cool! Excalibur was really good. First Knight was okay, if you checked your Authurian knowledge at the door. Hopefully this will be as good as Excalibur, or better.

[KayTang999]

I don't know but the casts look great and from what I've heard about the plot it is seems to be interesting. But I want it to be unique and different from what have done before.

[Frizzo the Clown]

Originally posted by KayTang999
.....But I want it to be unique and different from what have done before. and all I want is for it to be better than First Knight! :(

[KayTang999]

Well, that too. I hope JB won't let his production gone bad. But I don't know, the Pearl Harbor didn't really quiet impress me much.

[equipe]

This version focuses more on the politics and events of the myth and time, a realistic adaptation. I expect the special effects to be held to a minimum, but this is Bruckheimer so poop can happen.

The cast seems solid. and I'm not just saying this because i'm in love with Keira Knightly. Clive Owen just kicks ass

Overall, I think and hope this film can turn out well. It seems like the kind of film I could really sunk my teeth into.

[KayTang999]

The casts look great but who are the writers and the director?

[Omega Supreme]

Writting credits are given to David Franzoni (Gladiator, Amistad, Jumpin Jack Flash and John Lee Hancock (Bad Boys 2, Midnight In The Garden of good and Evil, A Perfect World) and the director is meant to be Antoine Fuqua (Tears of the Sun, Training Day and the Replacement Killers) He also directs a lot of music videos.

Doesn't seem too bad a line up actually.

[kojs]

bah another lame king arthur movie. i piss on that and on the director. should make a movie about how Polish army with 10 times the small size defeated the Cross German armys like hundreeds years ago in a great battle in Poland, now nobody made a movie like that. bah,, piece of crap.

[KayTang999]

The writer's credit looks good to me and from what I have heard it is more on the historical note than myth. I think I've said that.

[Frizzo the Clown]

Originally posted by kojs
bah another lame king arthur movie. i piss on that and on the director. should make a movie about how Polish army with 10 times the small size defeated the Cross German armys like hundreeds years ago in a great battle in Poland, now nobody made a movie like that. bah,, piece of crap. You could always write the movie and make it yourself you know.

[KayTang999]

Yeah, not all the movies would have to be bad if they have the same idea. Beside, they just start the production. You should not judge it now.

[Omega Supreme]

Originally posted by kojs
bah another lame king arthur movie. i piss on that and on the director. should make a movie about how Polish army with 10 times the small size defeated the Cross German armys like hundreeds years ago in a great battle in Poland, now nobody made a movie like that. bah,, piece of crap.

What Polish army?

Besides that, I love the whole Arthurian legend and all of that kind of fantasy/mythical stuff. Always have. So I'd much rather see a another King Arthuer movie than be subjected to some family drama or 'real life' film.

[KayTang999]

Me too!!! I love myth, fantasy, and sci-fi and all this fictional stories.

[sonjablue]

This sounds like another movie to add to my must see list. Any thing King Arthur fascinates me. Stephen Lawhead's books are the best. Hope this one is a go.

[KayTang999]

Well to me so far I think Excalibur and Monty Python are the best of Arthurian mythical movies!!!

However, I want this one to be different.

[Alexander JL]

A non-fiction King Arthur movie.

That in itself is very suspect, given that little evidence exists to even support that there WAS a real King Arthur...

[KayTang999]

Well, I think they are based on what we know that is believable, I guess.

[Alexander JL]

So this will be another fictional King Arthur movie but this time against a real medieval backdrop...

I still like mythical Arthurian retellings better...

[KayTang999]

I have no idea how this will turn out. Before anykind of script review, I can't really judge anything. As long as it is not suck, I will watch it.

[Frizzo the Clown]

I like the idea of a "historical" Arthur movie. I don't know how well it will work, seeing as magic and myth are such a big part of the legend, but the concept itself is intruiging.

[KayTang999]

Yeah, me too Frizzo. At least it would be totally different from what we have seen before.

[Omega Supreme]

This one has started filming. Here's a better cast list:

Clive Owen .... King Arthur
Stephen Dillane .... Merlin
Keira Knightley .... Guinevere
Ioan Gruffudd .... Lancelot
Stellan Skarsgård .... Cedric
Ray Winstone .... Bors
Hugh Dancy .... Galahad
Ray Stevenson .... Dagonet
Til Schweiger .... Cynric
Charlie Creed-Miles .... Ganis
Joel Edgerton .... Gawain
Ken Stott .... Marcus Honorius
Ivano Marescotti .... Bishop Germanius
Pat Kinevane .... Horton
Valeria Cavalli .... Fulcinia

Although the legend of King Arthur has not been historically established as fact, this film will attempt to place King Arthur within his possible historic context, smack between the fall of the Roman Empire (just a few hundred years after Gladiator) and the long road through the Dark Ages (roughly set in the 5th or 6th centuries). The magic and fantasy of the legend will be absent (Merlin may still be around; just not performing the magic seen in Excalibur).

Based on a more realistic portrayal of "Arthur" than has ever been presented onscreen. The film will focus on the history and politics of the period during which Arthur ruled -- when the Roman empire collapsed and skirmishes over power broke out in outlying countries -- as opposed to the mystical elements of the tale on which past Arthur films have focused.

Sounds like it's almost based on the 'Arthur' book fromt he Pendragon cycle by Stephen Lawhead.

[KayTang999]

The casts seem really good and the story sound really interesting. At least there is something to hold on to I guess.

[EnderDeschain]

What it sounds like to me is the Camulod Chronicles by Jack Whyte, which were fu**in' awesome. Not a shred of magic in them, and they do a great job of showing how Arthur evolved from just a normal man trying to do what's right to the larger-than-life myth he is today. Of course that is still, however, fiction. There's a little book by Norma Lorre Goodrich called, oddly enough, "King Arthur," that goes a long way toward proving his existence historically. Plus many, many others, but that's one of the best.

Anyone who doubts that an Arthurian tale can work without all the hocus pocus should really check out those Camulod Chronicles. Jack Whyte. Great stuff. Worth reading regardless.

Never heard of this Stephen Lawhead guy. I'll have to check that out. And I'll for sheezy be seeing this movie. Sounds great.

[Omega Supreme]

Stephen Lawhead also tries to portray the Arhturian legend from a bit more of a historical viewpoint. He does a hell of a lot of research into his novels, so they're well grounded. I haven't read them in ages, but I don't remember any magic or anything in them either. He's just released his new book 'Patrick' which is about St Patrick. Quite historical I've heard.

[MaximusMushu]

So I'm a huge JERRY BRUCKHEIMER fan....and I like the other medieval/King Arthur period....so I can't wait for this movie.

Now that Antoine Fuqua is the director...WOW. He did great with Training Day and I liked Tears of the Sun.

Two things I hope: (besides that this movie is classic Brucheimer stuff!)

1) Get Hans Zimmer to do the score!!!

2) Have some great knight fight scenes!!

[KayTang999]

Oh yeah totally agree on Hans Zimmer or at least someone who got a war like touch of music.

[Omega Supreme]

Of course I'd love to see Zimmer on the score, he's my favourite composer (him and Klaus Badelt) but I 'd like to see him do it because I don't think he's done a fantasy/history picture like this before has he? I'd be very keen to see what he would come up with, what sort of ethnic instruments he'd incorporate since he was a knack for that sort of thing.

[MaximusMushu]

Originally posted by Omega Supreme
Of course I'd love to see Zimmer on the score, he's my favourite composer (him and Klaus Badelt) but I 'd like to see him do it because I don't think he's done a fantasy/history picture like this before has he? I'd be very keen to see what he would come up with, what sort of ethnic instruments he'd incorporate since he was a knack for that sort of thing.


He did Gladiator! :D

[KayTang999]

Yeah I was going to say he did an amazing job with Gladiator. He also did Black Hawk Down, Pearl Harbor, and The Thin Red Line, all war movies.

[ILOVEKATIE]

He's one of my favorite composers, I hope he makes it.

[KayTang999]

I love Howard Shore's work too, especially with LOTR so not Hans then Howard will do for me.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Same here.

[KayTang999]

Or even John Williams or James Horner or even Jerry Goldsmith. Just someone who has a touch of aggressiveness and a sense of versatile and calmness.

[redman]

Originally posted by Omega Supreme
Of course I'd love to see Zimmer on the score, he's my favourite composer (him and Klaus Badelt) but I 'd like to see him do it because I don't think he's done a fantasy/history picture like this before has he? I'd be very keen to see what he would come up with, what sort of ethnic instruments he'd incorporate since he was a knack for that sort of thing.

What movies did Klaus Badelt compose?

[Omega Supreme]

Klaus Badelt has done The Time Machine (average movie, amazing score) K-19: The Widowmaker, The Recruit, Pirates of the Caribbean, Invincible and The Pledge (the last two were with Hans Zimmer) He also wrote additional music for Gladiator, The Thin Red Line and a few other films being having a go at the solo thing.

I don't think I was very clear with what I said about Zimmer not doing a fantasy/history film. I know he did Gladiator (got both albums, very nice) What I meant was, he hasn't done a film similar to Arthur (a medieval/dark ages/fantasy) film. Probably being a little picky, but hey. I was only wondering what sort of ethnic instruments he might use in this particular film more than anything else. Do you think any Uillean, Bagpipes or Whistles woould be involved?

[KayTang999]

That why I mentioned Howard Shore. LOTR scores were amazing!!!

You might not consider it a historic movie but it is fantasy with war and violent tone.

[Raiden]

King Arthur, like Troy, all attempted to place legendary or fantasy stories against historic backdrops. This also seemed like a quality production, and Keira Knightley is just so lovely, so I'm going to check it out when it is released.

[redman]

i dont think anyone can say howard shore is a bad composer, I heard on theonering.net that dozens of radio stations have voted LOTR soundtracks the best of all time.

[KayTang999]

Well I first heard his work in Philadelphia not LOTR and it was great too.

[Macbane]

Howard Shore composed Dogma, too! ;)

It'd be nice to hear Hans Zimmer or James Horner or any composer like them who has a good sense of epic/dramatic music.

And this movie sounds awesome, it'll be refreshing to see a film focus on the non-fictionial/political aspects of King Aurthur.

[KayTang999]

Well who have Jerry worked with before? Beside Zimmer.

[downflow311]

i dont know about an arthur story without the myth/fantasy aspect. so basically there will be no lady of the lake and there will be no excaliber. merlin will not be as cool of a character either. i am skeptical, it all depends on how th movie is executed. the myth/fantasy part of the story was always the most intriguing part IMO. i hope it wont be another First Knight though. i f^ing hate that movie. arthur(Connery) was not scottish and lancelot(Gere) didnt swordfight like a fairy, IMO. Excaliber is definitely the Arthur movie to beat. one of the best movies ever IMO.

[KayTang999]

Good thing you mention Merlin cause that got me thinking.

Since they said that this is more like historical and as we all know Merlin is wizard, then I wonder how could he fit into this movie if they down tone on the myth/fantasy aspect.

[obsessedwithsnl]

This movie sounds interesting. The cast sounds great, I think Keira Knightly is one of my new favorite actresses.

[KayTang999]

I like her too, a lot. She doesn't seem to be like an actress that is stuck up or anything of that source and the best part, she is so talented!

[downflow311]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Good thing you mention Merlin cause that got me thinking.

Since they said that this is more like historical and as we all know Merlin is wizard, then I wonder how could he fit into this movie if they down tone on the myth/fantasy aspect.

that is a good question.....

[EnderDeschain]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Good thing you mention Merlin cause that got me thinking.

Since they said that this is more like historical and as we all know Merlin is wizard, then I wonder how could he fit into this movie if they down tone on the myth/fantasy aspect.

I'm glad you asked!

Once again I'm going to hawk the Camulod Chronicles, and tell you a little bit about them. In said series, Merlyn Brittanicus is cousin to Uther Pendragon, who as we all know is Arthur's father. Certain things happen (I don't wanna give away too much in case someone decides to read it) and Merlyn ends up raising Arthur, more or less. The only abnormal thing about Merlyn is that he sometimes has dreams that come true, and he mentions this to a few people, even uses these dreams to effect some situations. This gets people talking, of course, and the rumors start that there's something supernatural about Arthur's guardian. Later on in life Merlyn uses this to both of their advantages, and intentionally begins building on this reputation.

What I just said there really does no justice to these books and just how beautifully Jack Whyte handles what you'd think would be such a daunting task. Again, I recommend these books to everyone. And if you only want to read one, just to get a feel for it, read "The Eagle's Brood". It answers a lot of questions all by itself.

I know this has nothing to do with the movie, but I'm just sayin' it can be done, and quite well. I offer these books up as proof.

[KayTang999]

So he is not a wizard but he saw a dream?

[ElysiumFirefly]

Another Arthur movie... sweet. Is the Lancelot/Guinevere romance still going to be in it?

[KayTang999]

Good question, but isn't all of the myth/historical/movie have them link?

[Omega Supreme]

Well, it's official - Hans Zimmer is scoring this film and I couldn't be happier :D


This is taken from the news at musicfromthemovies.com:
ZIMMER TO SCORE 'KING ARTHUR' FOR JERRY BRUCKHEIMER

Not very surprisingly, Hans Zimmer has been hired to compose the music for Jerry Bruckheimer's big budget production of King Arthur, directed by Tears of the Sun helmer Antoine Fuqua and starring Clive Owen as the king. The film is currently in production and is slated for premiere in December 2004.

Woohoo!!!!!!!!!

Jerry Bruckheimer nearly always hires a Media Ventures composer to score his films because both of them are located in Santa Monica, so Bruckheimer doesn't have to go too far at all to listen to the cues. Besides that, the styles of both MV and JB suit each other so well it'd be stupid not to hire them.

Definatly looking forward to this movie:applaud:

[KayTang999]

:let out a hugh breath:
Thank you God!!! Now I can worry about something else.

[ElysiumFirefly]

Yes! I love Hans Zimmer, this is awesome.

[KayTang999]

It seems like a perfect movie!!! Great casts, great music, and :crossing finger: great story!!!

[downflow311]

im kinda scared that tears of the sun helmer anotine fuqua is directing. tears of the sun was god awful.

[KayTang999]

I haven't seen that movie and since both are war movie, you scare me!!!

[downflow311]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I haven't seen that movie and since both are war movie, you scare me!!!

thats funny. now that i found that out, this movie doesnt excite me as much. i will still go and see it but i wont go in it with high expectations since Fuqua is directing.

[KayTang999]

Well, I like Clive, Keira, and Ioan so I don't know. I try not to get to hype up for this one either then.

[downflow311]

Bruckheimer is either a hit or miss too. and with no fantasy aspect, it would be not very smart to get your hopes up.

[KayTang999]

Well, they are trying to be different from the previous one.

[Omega Supreme]

I trust Bruckheimer. He's got a pretty good track record by my book. I haven't seen Tears of the Sun yet though.

I'm really looking forward to this one. Interested to see that JB smoothness all over the Arthur tale.

[KayTang999]

Well I was so happy that they don't go with fantasy but historical, really glad to know that they are going on that path.

[Omega Supreme]

Yes, I've never seen a film done from a historical perspective either.

I mean, historically, Arthur was meant to have been around long before there were knights, shining armour or castle as we usually associate with Arthur. Whenever the people needed a hero, they'd dust off their old Arthur tales and start believing that he was still alive and running around in a forest somewhere with his band of followers. Apparently that's all he was - a cheiftain of sorts that had about 50 soldiers with him. Didn't belong to one particualr tribe and just went around helping where he could. It wasn't until later than a writer gathered all the folk stories and wrote a novel about the Arthur we know now (including Excalibur, Merlin as a Wizard, the Lady of the Lake, Avalon, Camelot, the Round Table etc etc) That's where our pitcure of Arthur comes from.

I got all that from the BBC documentary series 'The Celts'. Top notch!

[KayTang999]

That is what my high school teacher in history and literature class told us. The whole thing about the fact that Arthur is before the time of what believe to be a bit before middle age.

[Boods]

this movie is gonna be great i think...
i love keira knightley and would go watch it just for her anyway .. lol

[KayTang999]

Yeah, she is great!!! You should have seen her in Bend It Like Beckham, not POTC, I think she was better in BILB, but that is just me.

[Omega Supreme]

I've just read though that this movie is based on a theory that Arthur was a Roman general.

I've heard of this theory, and I guess it makes just as much sense as the previous one as both theories take place well before there were the knights etc. The guy that wrote his Arthur novel did collect bits of Arthurian legend from all over the place so it's just as likely that this theory played as big a part in his novel as anything else.

Check this link for some more movie details:

Clive Owen/King Arthur page (http://www.murphsplace.com/owen/arthur/arthur.html)

[KayTang999]

Somehow the link is not working but thanks!!!

They play with a lot of possibility. The writer better not mess this all up though.

[Omega Supreme]

Doh! Try it now. It should be all good :D

[KayTang999]

That is a really really great site!!! Thanks Omega!!!

[Omega Supreme]

How about these then:

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news/news1065.htm

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news/news1073.htm

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news/news1085.htm

[KayTang999]

Oh yeah, I've seen these. The second pic, the dude on the horse, the helmet is so Roman like.

[KayTang999]

Did you see the trailer??? It looks really good. I really like how Ioan and Clive look as Lancelot and Arthur.

[southern]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS!
Ioan looks great and very hot as Lancelot and Clive looks perfect as Arthur

still iffy on the Xena-Guinevere they have going on but hopefully it'll be ok in the movie

[quotegal]

I'm exc ited for this one. I've seen about half-a-dozen movies related to King Arthur in one way or another and this one looks like it has somewhat of a different edge to it.

[Yag_xp]

it looks really interesting..... i want to see it...

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by southern
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS!
Ioan looks great and very hot as Lancelot and Clive looks perfect as Arthur

still iffy on the Xena-Guinevere they have going on but hopefully it'll be ok in the movie

Indeed :D
I just want to see this version and how they interpreted it. I don't really looking forward to Guinevere, may be because I am woman ;)

[southern]

oh oh oh what is up with the belt across her chest?!
that must have killed her boobs:eek:

[KayTang999]

LOL, no comment, they are not mine so I don't care. LOL

[southern]

i know but i cringed everytime i saw it....it looks like a corset x 100

i'm really looking forward to seeing Til however-his-last-name-is-spelled; i think he's a good actor:)

[Garnet Spring]

The trailer is hideously boring.

Why make this movie? And the release date is awful.

Meh.

[KayTang999]

Well that is your opinion. I don't take much from the trailer because sometime the movie is better than how the trailer looks.

[Garnet Spring]

Of course it's my opinoin.

I know that I can't say for sure that the movie is bad because of the trailer, but the point of a trailer is to get the veiwer interested and the KA trailer didn't do that for me.

[southern]

trailers can be deceiving.....i remember i spiderman's looked so good but the movie sucked so bad......so maybe it'll be the opposite for you:)

they need to release more images....particularly of Lancelot:o

[KayTang999]

From what I heard, this version will be a lot different than what we have seen before. They are trying to anchor on the historical fact rather than myth. I know that as much as I complain about some movie, I will eventually watch it just to prove myself either right or wrong.

Yeah, more pic of Lancelot is good ;)

[southern]

*not reading the past 3 pages*
why does it seem like Guinevere is fighting with the endemy?
anyone know?

[KayTang999]

I have no idea but it is based on a book, I don't know which but if you know the book you would know why. I think I will go to see this movie with blank brain.

[Garnet Spring]

Originally posted by southern
trailers can be deceiving.....i remember i spiderman's looked so good but the movie sucked so bad......so maybe it'll be the opposite for you:)

they need to release more images....particularly of Lancelot:o Haha. Maybe it will be the oppisite for me.

BTW, SM trailer rocked and so did the movie. :p

[KayTang999]

SMII trailer look better after that beginning part. I really don't like the romance at all and I hope Guinevere and Lancelot is not going to suck.

[bigmanjg225533]

in the trailer is the guy with the roman armour on arthur? i cant tell

[KayTang999]

I believe they all have Roman like armor on, but I don't know which one you are talking about.

[bigmanjg225533]

the guy near the end that gives the speech type thing he says "my power shall be with you always.........able to fly without wings................on this day if this be our destiny then so be it"

[KayTang999]

I think that is Arthur, but in the trailer, they have each character with name and picture to indicate who is who, I believe if we are talking about the same trailer.

[bigmanjg225533]

ya i know but they never said who the guy that says that speech looks like arthur but im not sure if it is him.

[KayTang999]

I will have to see the trailer again but I can't wait for the new trailer though.

[bigmanjg225533]

ya me too i hope a new one comes out soon

[KayTang999]

I think that one was just teaser. The big one should be out soon.

[Knerys]

Well no TV spot unless I missed it. And where this trailer you speakof?

[KayTang999]

There is no TV spot for this one. I think if you go to CS site and then to database then to King Arthur, there should be a link to the site for the trailer.

[Knerys]

Cool. I go check it out.

[KayTang999]

I thought you have seen it. I guess I confused you with someone else.

[Marvin]

if only it were Bay!

then you would see...
KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE

[KayTang999]

I think it is a good idea that this is not Micheal Bay. You want the story too, not just action and explosion.

[Marvin]

he wouldn't write the story.

the story would essentialy be the same as it is now.

but wouldn't look...well like it was shot outside a forest in canada(small screen trailer)

and the sun would look like the sun, people would sweat.

[KayTang999]

I know what you mean but from most of Bay's films, they don't have that subtleness. He is a director, not a story teller.

[Voorhees]

If you want to read a really good series on the world of Camelot, try Jack Whyte's novels. The first book in the series is The Skystone, and the series is called the Camulod Chronicles. If this movie can replicate some of the 'realism' from these books, then its off to a great start. There is no magic or fantasy to be seen in these books. The making of Excalibur takes 2 whole chapters. These books are a great read for any King Arthur fan. I much prefered these to Lawheads books.

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by bigmanjg225533
ya i know but they never said who the guy that says that speech looks like arthur but im not sure if it is him.

Ok, I watched the trailer and and yes, it was Arthur.

[bigmanjg225533]

k thanx

[KayTang999]

You're welcome.

[drjones]

I'm probably gonna get murdered for what I say here, but here goes anyway; I think this movie is going to be very poor.

From a historical perspective, it looks absolutly terrible. The are wearing Roman armor in England. They should have chain maille and plate armor. Why is Guenever going into battle at all, much less with leather straps over her boobs? She'd be in full armor just like everyone else (not that it matters, cause I don't remember her ever even going into battle). Details like this are EASY to avoid. (If there's only a few historical errors, that's fine; i.e. the German troops that Captain Miller fought at the end of Saving Private Ryan never fought against American troops.) Roman armor and boob belts are too much of a stretch for me.

I'm sure I'll still see the movie eventually, but I'll be relying entirely on the story to entertain me. That means that I don't have much hope for it. The Legend of King Arthur (by no fault of any filmmaker) has always felt too much like a soap opera for me to enjoy it. Of course, seeing as how the producers threw historical accuracy out the window, they just might do the same with the legend.

[KayTang999]

Well from the trailer, it said that this is based on a historical figure who has became myth. So, we don't know if they were Anglo-Saxon or not, they might be people from Rome. Roman Empire was huge and the influence was it spread around the world back then, so it is possible that they used Roman like armor.

As for Guenevere, I think they are trying to make her like Amazon women. I will wait and read more about the plot of this movie though.

[ScottGreenstein]

The Romans controlled England (before it was called England I think) "1600 YEARS AGO" like trailer voice says, so it makes sense to me. I've actually read that it is believed that Arthur was a Roman soldier who was stationed in Great Britian.

That still doesn't explain the straps Kiera is wearing, but whatever...

[KayTang999]

I don't know about Guenevere but I think you hit right on about Arthur. There were no England back then. Everything was pretty much under Rome.

[naja]

drjones, check your History Books (or the internet, try googling "Hadrians Wall","Roman conquest of Britain" or "King Arthur")
Britain was conquered by the Romans in AD 47, under the Emperor Claudius (you know, the st..stammering one). The Romans didn't leave Britain until around AD 399 and not all of them left anyway.(Not all of them had come from Rome either, but let's not confuse you further)
There is NO historical evidence for a King Arthur, but some historians think he is partly based on a Roman commander from around the 4th/5th century. From what I've seen this film follows that theory. The plate armour and chain mail as you see them in many movies about the Knights of the round table belong to a much later period, the middle to late middle ages, roughly 800 to a thousand years after the period this movie is set in when the "Arthurian legends" were the literary hype of the age.

still doesn't explain Guinevere's attire though...

[southern]

:funny:

[KayTang999]

You know, no one can explain the nature of her out fit because it is so...

Let's not even start to comment.

[drjones]

I know Rome was everywhere at the time, but Arthur wasn't Roman. I forget what it was, but I know it wasn't Roman. As for the maille and the plate armor; there would not have been much plate armor, but chain maille is VERY old. Soldiers at Hastings (1066) were dressed in maille for the most part.

Boob belts are still buggin me.

[droidguy1119]

Watched the trailer again yesterday, still looks good.

[naja]

I reiterate: there is no historical evidence for King Arthur, various theories exist, he could have been a Celt, or a Roman, or half Celt/half Roman he could even be a fantasy! (drjones, if you met him and know what he was, please step forward, the world wants to know!). Arthur is a figure much like Robin Hood, to be used by fictionwriters as they see fit.
Anyway, for the purpose of this film, he is a Roman and several of his knights are Sarmatians, a people from the region of present-day Hungary (and doesn't Ioan Gruffudd look gooood...sigh)
The Sarmatians served in the Roman legions as cavalry and some historians indeed connect them to the Arthurian myths, so this movie actually uses established historical theories, I'm impressed!
Chainmail was indeed around at the time, but I still think Roman soldiers would have used regulation Roman equipment (they'd have to kill the original Celtic owners of the chainmail to get their hands on it, it's not like it was massproduced and available at K-mart)
I'm looking forward to this film, and to see Kiera Knightley's wardrobe in action :D !

[Undome-Elenamin]

I can't wait for this film. JB rocks and I'm glad Zimmer is doing the score. As for Keira's Attire: Janet Jackson would be proud. lol

[KayTang999]

Reason I want to see this one because there are so many bad versions depicted on this myth, I want to see how this one would be since they said that it is more of historical point of view.

[ChristCSI_05]

Kiera Knightlgy is in it...that's enough reason for me to see it....lol but no it looks awesome to me!

[KayTang999]

LOL, if you have seen her in trailer, and that is the reason you want to see the movie, I guess you are in for a treat.

[ChristCSI_05]

:-) she's hot, y'know

[southern]

not particularly and many of the scenes from the trailer

[KayTang999]

I think she ok in that blue gown shot where she was about to shoot and arrow in the snow.

[southern]

yes (p.s. i love that gown so far)
whenever she's in boob belt she doesn't though

[Sparhawk]

Originally posted by southern
yes (p.s. i love that gown so far)
whenever she's in boob belt she doesn't though

Your just jealous.:p

You wish you had a boob belt.

[spiderman_2k]

Just watched the trailer for this, Not really looking forward to it at all now, I may see it, but I may not.

[PsYkOoOoO]

For some reason it reminded me of Timeline.

[southern]

Originally posted by Sparhawk
Your just jealous.:p

You wish you had a boob belt. i love my boobs and would never be that cruel to them:p

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
For some reason it reminded me of Timeline.

I think Timeline went back in time into that period of time or close to that period of time of King Arthur.

[ChristCSI_05]

anybody know what that song is playing during the trailer?

[bigmanjg225533]

timeline was during the time of one of the king edwards

[southern]

Originally posted by ChristCSI_05
anybody know what that song is playing during the trailer? "Fahrenheit" - Immediate Music
Equilibrium (2003) - Klaus Badelt
Original Trailer Music (2003) - James Dooley

[Colorado Cajun]

mmmmmmm Keira nuff said

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by bigmanjg225533
timeline was during the time of one of the king edwards

I said it was close to, not at the same time. It was sometime before and during middle age.

[MovieWes]

Don't know if anyone has posted this yet. If anyone has, then I'm sorry.

http://film.intertain.dk/pub/images/mfgs/products/games/filmnews/kingarthur-poster340.gif

[KayTang999]

Yeah but no one have posted yet. That is a really nice poster by the way, thanks.

[ChristCSI_05]

Originally posted by southern
"Fahrenheit" - Immediate Music
Equilibrium (2003) - Klaus Badelt
Original Trailer Music (2003) - James Dooley

can you buy those at cd stores?

[KayTang999]

I have been trying my butt off to get Equilibrium score but until this day I still haven't seen it. I don't know about the other two.

[spiderman_2k]

Thats a pretty cool poster...Shame the trailer did nothing to make me anticipate this film

[simmy]

i think the trailer was crammed, they had so much to try put in, and so much to try tell in the space of 2-3minutes, which isnt an easy thing. still gna go see it, if not just cos it'll be cool, for kiera knightley :P

[KayTang999]

Since you guys will see this because of Kiera, then I guess I can say that I would see this because of Ioan!!!

Not!!!

Even though I like him because he is a great actor, but that reason only can't get me to see it.

[Colorado Cajun]

I love the poster and the trailer was decent imo

[KayTang999]

I like how they introduce each character like they did in the trailer.

[diasyjazz]

Originally posted by MovieWes
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet. If anyone has, then I'm sorry.

http://film.intertain.dk/pub/images/mfgs/products/games/filmnews/kingarthur-poster340.gif

I really like this poster and can't wait for the movie to come out....


and I am a girl and not seeing it for KK..but more for hmmmm......all the knights of the round table please thank you very much.

[KayTang999]

It seems to be that many people have problem with the content of the movie and the storyline and plot.

[Omega Supreme]

That poster is very cool.

I'm still looking forward to this. I look at it as just one of many different takes on the Arthurian legend. The people who expect every Arthur movie to have the Knights of the Round Table, Merlin and all the other typical Arthurian figures need to get an education. I mean, that view we have of Arthur isn't even historically accurate. It's due to a novel that was written during the middle ages or so that put Athur into that current time period. It's like Robin Hood - no one knows what is true and what is myth, so I'm open to seeing some different interpretaions of that myth.

[simmy]

we always have to remeber...myth's and legends allwayys originate from some truth. some damn twisted truth, but truth nevertheless :P

but hey, this is a movie, should be good old popcorn fun :P

[KayTang999]

Well, they said this is not taken from myth but history figure. So it is really hard to tell. I am still not over Guinevere yet.

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I have been trying my butt off to get Equilibrium score but until this day I still haven't seen it. I don't know about the other two. just rented Equilibrium for the first time this weekend
SOOoooooooooooo great!
and i too want the soundtrack
if i find it i'll let you know:)

[KayTang999]

Thanks sweetie!!! Isn't Christian Bale amazing!!! I love that movie.

[southern]

HE'S SO GREAT!
the beginning when he knocks down the door and the end when right when the detectors line goes flat straight til the end are some of the best sequences EVER!
best part of te movie: gun fight between Bale and "father" is breathtaking

[KayTang999]

I personally like all of the action scene. This movie would give Matrix a run for its money.

[southern]

hated the matrix so no contest there
the only part that i really just didn't like was the part with Taye Diggs when Preston is arrested for sense offense.....overacting
oh and the part where he's practicing and Diggs shows up is superb

also i'm glad that the end fight between Bale and Diggs only last about 2 seconds, that's genious to show how deadly he can be when he's what they made him

[KayTang999]

That was an amazing work of samurai sword. Too bad that movie has so little of Sean Bean.

[southern]

true but what little he was in, he did a great job
how he played the scene as he pulls the book over his eyes gave me chills (though i don't know why cause he was just pulling a book up) but none the less did

[KayTang999]

It was a great casts for a really good small film.

[simmy]

hmm...anyone else noticing the messaging going a little off track :)

[southern]

this is CS if topics at some point don't get off track, then it's abnormal

[anaria22]

yeah, who cares I love talking equilibrium. It was a great, highly underknown film. And christian bale was very hot in it.

[KayTang999]

^ :lol:
That is really true. I was afraid of that too but I didn't say anything.

ETA: This is directly to southern's post but yeah Bale is hot and a really talented actor.

[simmy]

equilibrium seemed to appeal as a rip-off matrix style thing, like the other matrix rip-off style thingys....is it really worth renting out? for a group-of-mates-round-to-watch-a-dvd kinda thing?

[André]

I realy liked that film. It has some great sequenses, though it is a low budget film it realy looks good!

[southern]

Originally posted by simmy
is it really worth renting out? for a group-of-mates-round-to-watch-a-dvd kinda thing? yep

and as i said before, i hated the matrix and loved this so there's one view:)

[André]

Originally posted by southern
yep

and as i said before, i hated the matrix and loved this so there's one view:)

Thats make us two! :)

[southern]

ok so watching the trailer again
i really REALLY want to know what's up with Xena-Guinevere
she looks to be fighting for the other team and that just makes me go WTF

i know i've said that before but this is for the new people with the same wonder and i'm also hoping someone can answer that

[KayTang999]

I am still wondering about that and I am not new and I have no answer so I will have to wait and watch to movie.

[SoundScream]

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/492/492902p1.html?fromint=1 An interview with the guy who plays Lancelot and it gives some info on the possible plot.

[SoundScream]

oh I just noticed it was up on comingsoon oh well.

[southern]

guy who plays Lancelot=Ioan Gruffudd;)

[southern]

also on comingsoon
http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/Action/King_Arthur/kingarthurew.jpg
oh i so can't wait:D

p.s. i applaud Ioan on being able to use 2 swords
that's not easy

[anaria22]

oh Ioan Gruffudd....mmm....

[southern]

ok but this is just BAD
http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/ka_keira1.jpg

[KayTang999]

That is not just appealing at all, sorry. But hey some guys are turn on by it *roll eyes*

[KALIsTOR]

is she supposed to be guenaver ( or however u spell her name) , cause i think thats just really stupid of an idea to make her a warrior princess.

This movie really sucks , by taking away all the mystical and magical elements from king arthur, its really just a dull story about a Man who follows the word of a so called prophet name merlin who si probably mad anyhoo. And Arthur fights barbarian hords , to save um britiania with a sword made of wood.

King arthur was built by his legend , his legend is what intrigues us to him. With out it we just have a man who was silly and the morons who followed him.

[southern]

please be joking

[KayTang999]

Well, I know that what you said about Merlin is about right, the movie comment that you made, but I don't know about anything else beside that.

[naja]

does anybody else see a pattern in Guinny's dress sense? as in she doesn't seem to have any? first that boobstrangling thing, which I won't say anymore about, next she stands in a snowstorm in a summerdress?? will she have the wit to at least choose Lancelot (Ioan:heart: ) over Arthur (Clive :sleepy: )?

[KayTang999]

According to Ioan's interview, there will be no love triangle.

[Omega Supreme]

Which makes for a nice change.

I love the Arthurian legend as much as any of you, but I'm totally open to seeing this new spin on it. Even Kiera Knightly wearing only a strip of leather.

[KayTang999]

This is a great change I think. I don't need to see another one of those love sick Lancelot, I want to see bad@$$ Lancelot.

[anaria22]

I would be okay with that too. Love triangle make me ill. I hate them because you know that someone is going to get rejected. I would prefer to see him hacking some heads of rather than staring at guinevere, his heart desparing.

[KayTang999]

Yeah, totally. I just him to focus on the action part.

[rosncranz]

i am not really holding out any hope for this, it sounds really quite bad to me. the only thing that keeps me interested is the cast the rest of it is just really bad sounding. they took away pretty much everything that made the story interesting from what i hear.

[KayTang999]

They just doing it differently from what have been done before, that is one of the reason it looks a bit off.

[André]

Originally posted by rosncranz
i am not really holding out any hope for this, it sounds really quite bad to me. the only thing that keeps me interested is the cast the rest of it is just really bad sounding. they took away pretty much everything that made the story interesting from what i hear.

Because they took away the love triangle? I believe that makes the movie better actually...

[Penny Lane]

i am interested in seeing this....i don't know a whole ton about the arthurian saga but i know enough to see that there are changes.... who knows hollywood changes a lot of things and even though everyone has a right to be disappointed, i am not as bothered

[André]

Originally posted by Penny Lane
i am interested in seeing this....i don't know a whole ton about the arthurian saga but i know enough to see that there are changes.... who knows hollywood changes a lot of things and even though everyone has a right to be disappointed, i am not as bothered

Hmmm...well... There are many different oppinions on Arthur. Some even say he never excisted. So its hard to say what is RIGHT if you know what i meen. But i look forward to this movie. (i like movies with battles and sword :) Hope it will be good.

[KayTang999]

Arthur is myth that haven't been proven to be true, yet. So hollywood can butcher it how ever they want it because like you said, no one really know what is right and what is not right.

I just think it is great that this one will be different.

[southern]

i think if they'd kept the love triangle
those *****ing about it not being there, would be *****ing that it was there and that it's been done

[KayTang999]

True. The love triangle is a major story that is ok that they cut out IMO, I think it will even enhance the movie.

[chs44d]

I saw the trailer for it recently. The message I got was that it was an entire movie about fighting. No real hsitory involved. I think Hollywood took a story that has done well in the past, added new actors and lots of fighting, and away we go; 100 million in theaters. The fact that Kiera Knightley is in it got my interest but she looked all violent in the trailer, and I dont really remember women fighting back then, but hey I am not a history buff

[KayTang999]

I think the fact that "she" is in the movie will help this movie a lot.

[Penny Lane]

I think that Keira Knightley is a fantastic actress so yeah, she is one of the atactions for me towards this movie. About the love triangle thing, i can take it or leave it, sometimes they are good and sometimes they can be very cliche.

[KayTang999]

I don't know about how good she is as an actress. She was good in Bend It Like Beckham, but that was it. She is not much different from other young teenage actresses. She is not in Christina Ricci range though.

[Penny Lane]

i thought that she was great in potc, obviously not the same as geoffrey rush or johnny depp, but she's young still. And did anyone catch her in that Dr. Zhivago remake? she was good in that

[KayTang999]

The thing is that she is kind of like Orlando Bloom if you know what I mean. They both need to do something different. Their time will come.

[Omega Supreme]

I don't see why actors have to keep doing different things and 'increasing their range' or else they get hammered by the public. If I was an actor, I'd jump at every good fantasy/historical film that came my way at the exclusion of everything else. I'd have no problem only appearing in those type of movies.

Who cares if Kiera fighting in this movie isn't historically accurate? It's all a myth anyway, and it'll probably make for a good film. We live in the real world enough as it is, why does every film have to be totally accurate??

[KayTang999]

IMO, being an actor or actress, your job is to portrait a character on screen. Human is not all the same, and they should be able to portrait different types of human being. An actor or actress should be able to express different traits, and to me that is what make a decent actor and actress. This is how I feel about the need of range in performers.

Of course like I said human are different so there would be people who don't agree with this.

[Knerys]

Imo, it's really a matter of preference. Look at Harriosn Ford. He made a career out of the gruff and tough characters, but he's good at it so we love him for it. Others want to expand their repitoire (sp) just for themselves and that's cool too.

[KayTang999]

Yeah but he has done dramatic role too, not just a gruff and tough guy. But he has been here longer than those 2 so I think time will tell.

[Omega Supreme]

So what if you only want to portray fantasy/mythological characters? What if you're an actor who isn't concerned with 'range' or 'different character traits' and just want to take on different roles in different fantasy/mythology films? Like I said, that's what I'd be always looking out for and I'd jump at every well written fantasy (or sci fi) script that came my way :)

[southern]

i was searching for some KA pics and i found a ton, i'm sure they've been posted in here before but i missed them
anyways, i'm so ready for this!!! the pics looked so freakin good

[Harker]

Originally posted by Penny Lane
And did anyone catch her in that Dr. Zhivago remake? she was good in that
Yes, I thought she was good in Dr Zhivago - she was shockingly sensual for someone so young.

I haven't read all the posts, but I don't see why it would be inaccurate to have a woman fighting. We know little about that time period (that's why they're called the Dark Ages) but we know that women fought in earlier times eg Boudica. If your home was under attack, would you go back to your sewing?

It is possible to enjoy watching an actor who has limited range but who does a good job within that range. But there's nothing to match an actor with the range to surprise and delight you. It's important for young actors to carry on stretching and learning so we don't get bored with them and move on to a fresh face.

[southern]

Originally posted by Harker
I haven't read all the posts, but I don't see why it would be inaccurate to have a woman fighting. We know little about that time period (that's why they're called the Dark Ages) but we know that women fought in earlier times eg Boudica. If your home was under attack, would you go back to your sewing? no but i wouldn't do it in a boob belt either
and the fact that she looks like she's fighting on the opposite side is the problem

[André]

Originally posted by southern
i was searching for some KA pics and i found a ton, i'm sure they've been posted in here before but i missed them
anyways, i'm so ready for this!!! the pics looked so freakin good

hmmm...wanna share it with me/us? :)

[Undome-Elenamin]

Originally posted by Harker


I haven't read all the posts, but I don't see why it would be inaccurate to have a woman fighting. We know little about that time period (that's why they're called the Dark Ages) but we know that women fought in earlier times eg Boudica. If your home was under attack, would you go back to your sewing?



I wouldn't be in sewing in the first place,lol. I'm not one of those silly little scream and get your a$$ kicked girls. But anyway, I get what you're saying. It's just that most people are used to acknowledgin the fact that most women in the past didn't fight. Unless you count the Amazons and I'm not even sure if they existed.

[southern]

Originally posted by Andrey83
hmmm...wanna share it with me/us? :) i would've/would but my aohell shut down and so i lost the link and don't remember what it was:(:mad:

[André]

Ah..darn.. Well, just gotta search myself then. I'll post if i find something ;)

[André]

Well, this is a pretty cool pic:

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images3/kingarthur03.jpg

He looks great!

http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-02.jpg

Thats gonna hurt :)

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/KingArthur/kingarthur_1.jpg

Why in gods name doesnt she have anymore clothes on?

http://www.cinescape.com/multimedia/Master_Site/Movies/Master_SiteMovies288610.jpg


Thats some at lest..

And take a look at this pic :) ( it was so big i didnt want to post it here)

[Wolfgang]

So the men get to wear tons and tons of heavy armor while the women wear conveniently placed belts to battle? What the hell? Knightley doesn't even look good, those things are sickeningly tight. What a summer this'll be for female costumes, between this and Halle's Catwoman. How retarded.

[André]

There sure is some kind of reason why she weares what she does.... wait till you see the movie :)

[Knerys]

Nice pics. I can't wait to see this. clive and Iaon in one place heh. :D

[Colorado Cajun]

nice and Keira is yummy

[André]

Shes ok, but thats not the reason i will see the film ;)

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
Nice pics. I can't wait to see this. clive and Iaon in one place heh. :D exactly:D

[anaria22]

I love the new pics! Owen looks great, Ioan is still dreamy, and kiera....well, ouch. You'd think that that would hurt a bit. (not the bands, the numerous injuries she would sustain after the few flimsy bits of leather she has fail to turn away the weapons)

[southern]

http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-103.jpg
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-23.jpg
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-30.jpg
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-110.jpg
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-131.jpg
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-130.jpg

[André]

Nice pics southern!

Is that merlin being killed in the pic 2nd from the bottom?

[southern]

looks like it

[simmy]

ooo, i cant wait. does anyone think it'll match POTC for adventure movie of the summer?

[André]

I think it will be a complete other style. I read an interview where it said that this is a brutal R-movie. So i dont think it will be that kind of film like POTC

[southern]

i think it'll be more like Gladiator good than POTC good

[André]

Yea me too... I sure hope it doesnt fail to do so. I like the carracter arthur and lancelot. And the production team is good. The director isnt the best (but look at Peter jacksons work before LOTR), so it may work out good! :)

[southern]

Originally posted by Andrey83
(but look at Peter jacksons work before LOTR), so it may work out good! :) Frightners and Heavenly Creatures were both good (& pre-LOTR):)

but yes i'll be pissed if this is a disappointment
but at the moment the only thing that looks like it will is Xena-Guinevere:rolleyes:
http://home.accglobal.net/~707727/images/king_arthur/king-arthur-movie-lg-53.jpg

[André]

Yea i've seen those pics... I hope they have a GOOD explanation why she have those clothes....

edit; i've only seen bad taste...and didnt like it :)

[Undome-Elenamin]

At least in the pic that Southern posted Keira has something other than a boob belt. lol

[André]

If you look at the people in the background they are mostly not wearing much, so there is probably a reason for it.

[anaria22]

The real question is, why is she leading an army? Or fighting in one? When did guinevere ever do that?

[André]

Dont think she did. Doesnt remember excactly right now, but i'll try to dig up something.

[SoundScream]

You know what bothers me. People saying I dont remember that, she didnt do that in this thread. It has already been stated this movie is not about the fantasy King Arthur. If you go to the movies website they give there historical reasons for why people look as they do. I dont know if it is acurate but I do know we should not expect this to be a remake of Excaliber.

[André]

Oh crap on you. there are certain things they are almost certain about ;)

[André]

There is a great page on king arthur. what he is based on, if its real, historical etc..... check it out. Its a long read, but it has many interesting points.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~tomgreen/arthur.htm

[JackBauer]

just saw the trailer. looks nice ;)

[naja]

whoa! Ioan, Ioan, Ioan...I feel faint!

[KayTang999]

Thanks for the pics ;)

IOAN *drool*

[Sora Kahn]

This movie looks awesome. I'm definitely going see this as soon as it comes out. If done right( hopefully), it could be one of best movies of the year and quite possibly be an Oscar material movie.

[KayTang999]

I am not sure if this could be Oscar worthy because I don't there will be a lot of drama. This is like POTC feel movie, you know what I mean.

[southern]

this really has nothing to do directly with KA but

i am amazed that my local theatre already has the poster (amazing cause 1 i live in ****ville USA and 2 cause it's not out til July)

[KayTang999]

Well many theaters have teaser poster up. I remember seeing ROTK teaser poster of Aragorn holding a sword like I think in October.

[southern]

yeah that part doesn't surprise me as much
it's just the fact that the theatre here has it

by-the-way, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE TRAILER ON THE BIG SCREEN:D