Did you kno Frank Miller wrote.....

[biggles2000uk]

Did you kno Frank Miller wrote or part wrote the screen play and story to Robocop 2 and Robocop 3.
Both these were very craply written.

However Fran Miller is a great comic book writer, no one can deny that. BUT he is not the greatest Hollywood writers and his dialogue is not the best. Thats why it's good to hear (I don't know where I heard it) that Miller is workin very closely with Aronofsky, showing that they do have a respect for each other.

They should hopefully make a great screenplay of the comic.

[thebat]

I loved Robo Cop 2...I thought it was great fun! But maybe your right...maybe Frank does need help adapting Comics to Movies.But since
He's working closely with Aronofsky...maybe Darren
will keep Him on the right track.

[David]

I think his scripts are right, but the directors and producers think: "Oh, it's written by a comic-book writer. I'm sure I write better".
And they change almost everything inthe book. It happened to Alan Moore, Peter David, Jeph Loeb and many other comic-book artists.
Many directors are stupid. :mad:

[biggles2000uk]

I seriously doubt that Aronofsky would do anything like that, he is a Batman fan. Also I think the studios have learnt from the mistakes of Batman and Robin, this is shown by giving the batman Beyond film over to their award winning animation team and writers.

Miller is supurb at writing comics, but comics is more of a visual basis rather than a script. You'll be very hard pressed to get 30 min of script from a comic.

Miller knows that his dialogue is flakey at times and not up to the standards of a Batman film, he would have no objections in having Aronofsky help with the script. Also you have to remember that having Miller there would keep Batman very faithul to the comic. He would no way make drastic changes if it damaged his book or the continuity or characters in Batman.

[thebat]

SO RIGHT!! Millar said "I won't write a single line I don't Believe in !"

[RationalThinker]

Robocop 2 was the best of the Robocops and was very well written compared to most movie screenplays in the genre.Classsic Miller style with the recurring "I am a machine...I am not human" then the last line of the movie,"We're only human".miller does this kind of thing as well as anyone.His dialogue can be a little off at times(but not horrendous) but then again what comic writer besides David Quinn doesn't have problems with dialogue.

[Superman]

As much as I like Miller I'd have doubts about him writing a movie script solo, but working with Arronofsky boosts my confidence a million times. Miller has great ideas and someone like Darren to help him translate that on screen helps a lot.

[thebat]

To be perfectly honest...I have'nt seen either of Darren's "two" Movies.But my feeling's are, that if He's read Millar's stuff...and wants Frank to co-write the script with Him...than He understands the Material! Ofcourse,I could be wrong. I also read that Tim Burton had read "The Darkknight
Returns", and "The Killing Joke",...and He TOTALY MISSED the POINT!!

[Superman]

Burton actually combined several Batman stories into one. In Joker's early apperance (or maybe very first) the plot strongly resembled the plot for the first film. I'm going to look for the plot synopsis but it was a bat story in 1940 I believe that had the same scenario. He also used some aspects from TKJ and TDKR for Batman's personality and Joker's as well. I remember in the TKJ Gordon is looking through his scrapbook of the Joker and the headline mentions how Batman critically injured some thug which was the Joker.

I've seen Arronofsky's "PI" and man is that one hell of a movie. Its one of the most well written and well thought out movie that I never want to see again. I mean that in a good way, but man was that thing disturbing!

[rObix]

Originally posted by Superman:
<STRONG>
I've seen Arronofsky's "PI" and man is that one hell of a movie. Its one of the most well written and well thought out movie that I never want to see again. I mean that in a good way, but man was that thing disturbing!</STRONG>

requiem for a dream is the exact same way. it's cinematicaly beautiful, and written very well....the dialogue is fitting and thought out, and each character has their own way of speaking...the ending was a little hazy, but when you think about it afterwards, you get it....
anyway, batman is an established character, so there wont be an instance of not wanting to see YO again, i dont think...because Millers stuff i wanna read over and over again..

[Superman]

Originally posted by silent rOb:
<STRONG>requiem for a dream is the exact same way. it's cinematicaly beautiful, and written very well....the dialogue is fitting and thought out, and each character has their own way of speaking...the ending was a little hazy, but when you think about it afterwards, you get it....
anyway, batman is an established character, so there wont be an instance of not wanting to see YO again, i dont think...because Millers stuff i wanna read over and over again..</STRONG>

I still have to see "Requiem for a Dream" because I've heard great stuff.

[thebat]

I have to rent "both" of Darren's Movie's to
see how good He is. There must be a reason Hollywood, would hand over one there Major Francise's to a Director with only "two" Movie's under His Belt! I gotta say...Yearone
is really the only Thread on this Message Board...that I care deeply about!No offence
to those of you who liked those other Batman Movie's...I just want ONE FAITHFUL Batman Movie that i'd be proud too add to my DVD Collection.So...all my hope's are in Millar and Aronofsky's hand's!

[RationalThinker]

Originally posted by Superman:
<STRONG>Burton actually combined several Batman stories into one. In Joker's early apperance (or maybe very first) the plot strongly resembled the plot for the first film. I'm going to look for the plot synopsis but it was a bat story in 1940 I believe that had the same scenario. He also used some aspects from TKJ and TDKR for Batman's personality and Joker's as well. I remember in the TKJ Gordon is looking through his scrapbook of the Joker and the headline mentions how Batman critically injured some thug which was the Joker.

I've seen Arronofsky's "PI" and man is that one hell of a movie. Its one of the most well written and well thought out movie that I never want to see again. I mean that in a good way, but man was that thing disturbing!</STRONG>

Actually don't you mean SAM HAMM combined elements from several stories into one for "Batman".Also the "thug" who would become the Joker was "The Red Hood".In the golden age batman comics he was a small time costumed crook but in Alan Moore's "Killing Joke" Jack would don the guise of the Red Hood once only which would lead to his becoming the Joker.

[Superman]

Originally posted by RationalThinker:
<STRONG>Actually don't you mean SAM HAMM combined elements from several stories into one for "Batman".Also the "thug" who would become the Joker was "The Red Hood".In the golden age batman comics he was a small time costumed crook but in Alan Moore's "Killing Joke" Jack would don the guise of the Red Hood once only which would lead to his becoming the Joker.</STRONG>

Well yeah Burton didn't write the thing but I imagine he would have some input because he mentioned this himself. I have TKJ about The Red Hood and everything and how he loses it after his wife and unborn child die. Its one of my favorite bat stories because it raises some interesting questions. I think next to Y1 this is my favorite Batman (or Joker I guess) story, Batman had some good lines about how he thought he or the Joker were going to end up killing one another and that he didn't want that. The Joker mentions how he is beyond help now and they share this odd moment where for a second they act like friends laughing at a joke.

The first Batman movie to me had some Y1 elements with the mob and the chemical plant, the mob was similar to Y1 and the chemical plant similar to TKJ. Remember in TKJ when Joker is the Red Hood and Batman comes in, one of the cops says how its the bat guy everyone is talking about. Same in the first Batman movie when Batman goes after Jack and the cops see Batman and Gordon realizes this bat guy everyone is talking about is true. Then there's the Joker's plot which was similar to that 1940 bat story I mentioned.

[Freddy Englund]

Miller Is God