Wolverine Question

[Alexander JL]

So we found out that Wolfie has an automatic healing power. Does that mean he is virtually invincible? Gee, that takes alot of suspense out of it...

[Frizzo the Clown]

Didn't we always know that Wolvie had this healing factor? I mean, its been his mutant power since day one.....

[Kris Hodgson]

I wouldn't say he was invincible. If you stripped all of his skin and muscle tissue off, I'd say he's die

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Frizzo the Clown
Didn't we always know that Wolvie had this healing factor? I mean, its been his mutant power since day one..... Yeah, I agree, I thought we always knew.

[Fanible]

Hes invincable or immortal in the way like an elf from Lord of the Rings is (well not really, you could kill an elf more easily). Due to his healing ability, he could stay alive for a long period of time... but he can still die. It seemed clear to me that Deathstryke almost killed him due to her constant stabbing and his starting of loss of blood.

If you cut off his head, he will more than likly be dead. Or drain all his blood. Or like Deathstryke fill him up with metal =P

But anyways, from your post you make it sound like we didn't find this out till the second film. But we've always known hes been able to heal since the comics, and quite obviously the first time you see him in the first movie.

[spiderman_2k]

I dont get what hes saying about the suspense, ur right, Dude did u know he could regenerate before u saw X2??

[Kyle Katarn]

Prof X (as it was shown during the Onslaught storyline) made a file of how to kill any X-man if they went bad. For Logan he said that "his head must be severed and removed from the vicinity of his body" :eek:

[Tardumb]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Prof X (as it was shown during the Onslaught storyline) made a file of how to kill any X-man if they went bad. For Logan he said that "his head must be severed and removed from the vicinity of his body" :eek:

Cyclops - shoot in head
Jubilee - shoot in head
Gambit - shoot in head
Beast - shoot in head
etc....:p

[Halofan1]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
So we found out that Wolfie has an automatic healing power. Does that mean he is virtually invincible? Gee, that takes alot of suspense out of it...

I would have expected this kind of idiocy from a newbie.

[spiderman_2k]

http://mysmilies.creativesell.net/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif

Have u noticed he hasnt posted again in here?? I couldnt show my face had i made a mistake like that.

Long Live Wolvie http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/classicwolv.gif

[Alexander JL]

Originally posted by Halofan1
I would have expected this kind of idiocy from a newbie.

What the hell is your problem, jerkoff?

Just because I ain't a damn X-Men freak doesn't mean I don't watch the movies.

[spiderman_2k]

Woah snappy, u had an attitude about it, and u were also a nonce about it, didnt u see the first one, there is a pretty good description of his powers in it.

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
So we found out that Wolfie has an automatic healing power. Does that mean he is virtually invincible? Gee, that takes alot of suspense out of it...


thats almost as dumb as the people who say wolvie's mutant powers are his claws :rolleyes:

[necronon99]

ballocks to you wanker

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by necronon99
ballocks to you wanker

huh :confused:

[spiderman_2k]

Lol i didnt get that either??
But i guess in a very strange non-making sense way, it makes alot of sense ;)

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
But i guess in a very strange non-making sense way, it makes alot of sense ;)

mmm. well now that you explain it, it makes sense :funny:

[spiderman_2k]

Glad i cleared things up for ya http://www.stupid-boy.com/smilies/contrib/aahmed/tongue.gif

[PapaGeorgioSmrf]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
What the hell is your problem, jerkoff?

Just because I ain't a damn X-Men freak doesn't mean I don't watch the movies.

Haha first of all no need to get angry, we're all tryin to help ya dude, second if that does mean you watch the movies then you would know that he's had that ability for a while, so what are you talkin about. PEACE:rolleyes:

[jorich]

For those of us who don't live and breath X-Men, so is the reason Wolverine didn't die from a bullet to the head is because his skull is adamantium too, thus preventing the bullet from entering his brain? I guess that would be the only reason. Hard to imagine regenerative abilities kicking in if you go brain dead...

[necronon99]

that was for my uk brothers

[Kris Hodgson]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
thats almost as dumb as the people who say wolvie's mutant powers are his claws :rolleyes:

Actually, if you want to get technical, since wolvie's claws are bone undernieth the adamantium, they are part of his mutant powers.

[Rizor]

Originally posted by jorich
For those of us who don't live and breath X-Men, so is the reason Wolverine didn't die from a bullet to the head is because his skull is adamantium too, thus preventing the bullet from entering his brain? I guess that would be the only reason. Hard to imagine regenerative abilities kicking in if you go brain dead... His entire skelaton is grafted with adamantium including his skull.

Prof X (as it was shown during the Onslaught storyline) made a file of how to kill any X-man if they went bad. For Logan he said that "his head must be severed and removed from the vicinity of his body" How do you cut off his head if you can't sever the bones in his neck?

Vision (from the Avengers) could probaby sink his arm into Wolvie's chest and grab his heart.

[Kyle Katarn]

Hmmm.....during Onslaught, it was when Logan was feral, w/o the adamantium. The upside to that was the his healing factor was UBER fast.

Lol, Tardumb....I can see it: The cut panel of that ish of Excalibur:

*Cyclops, Moria, and Jean are at the console asleep as the Prof's voice drones on:
"Longshot: shoot in head
Dazzler: shoot in head
Leech: shoot in head
Me: shoot in head...unless I merge with Magneto, then kiss ass goodbye!"

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
Actually, if you want to get technical, since wolvie's claws are bone undernieth the adamantium, they are part of his mutant powers.

his claws aren't bone underneath, they are pure adamantium

[Fanible]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
his claws aren't bone underneath, they are pure adamantium

Actually no. He had developed bone claws way before tests were done on him. When the metal was laced to his bones, it also covered his bone claws. When you see his claws, you're basicly seeing what the rest of his bone structure looks like (i guess thats pretty obvious though).

[Tenafly Viper]

http://digilander.libero.it/wolva86wb/wolmar.jpg

[Jarbacca]

so your telling me that before he was experimented on he still had claws?

[Warlock of Pain]

ok, who found that out in the second one? If so, you are an idiot. Hands Down.

[Warlock of Pain]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
his claws aren't bone underneath, they are pure adamantium well, actually if you read the comics, the bone claw storyline was that the adamantium got blown off his claws leaving him with bone claws, so technically he did have bone under his adamantium.:applaud: :applaud:

[Warlock of Pain]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
so your telling me that before he was experimented on he still had claws? that is right my friend.

[Jarbacca]

mmm...

well, i learned something new today :)

[nightbringer]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
thats almost as dumb as the people who say wolvie's mutant powers are his claws :rolleyes:

Your joking right?...Uh his claws are part of his mutation. Under the adamantium, they are part of his bone structure. If you read Origin you see that the claws were always a part of him.

[Warlock of Pain]

ok, who said that the claws are not part of his mutant powers?

[spiderman_2k]

This has gone in an...odd direction

[Jarbacca]

a very odd direction

just one question, how come in x2 when wolvie is having his flashback does it show him screaming in terror when he sees claws coming out of his hands

almsot like hes never seen them before

[Marvin]

Probubly because their metal (as opposed to bone) in the movie if you really read his expression it could be saying either, "I have claws," or, "My claws are metal now." Both show frustration with Stryker and his adamantium process.

The external claws are his only evidence that he is a terminator now.

Maybe the process itself wiped his memory

Maybe the movie is going in its own direction by giving him his claws.

Some mutants are born with different physiolgy (Nightcrawler,
Mystique). Logans has had his claws his whole life, he just discovered them alittle before his healing power kicked in, about the time he popped them and slashed Sabretooth.

That's just speculation, I suggest reading Origin.

[spiderman_2k]

Dude u should edit ur post so it makes more sense IMO

[Marvin]

Thanks :)

[spiderman_2k]

K it makes more sense now :D

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Marvin
Probubly because their metal (as opposed to bone) in the movie if you really read his expression it could be saying either, "I have claws," or, "My claws are metal now." Both show frustration with Stryker and his adamantium process.

The external claws are his only evidence that he is a terminator now.

Maybe the process itself wiped his memory

Maybe the movie is going in its own direction by giving him his claws.

Some mutants are born with different physiolgy (Nightcrawler,
Mystique). Logans has had his claws his whole life, he just discovered them alittle before his healing power kicked in, about the time he popped them and slashed Sabretooth.

That's just speculation, I suggest reading Origin.


then whats with stryker's line

"you were always an animal, i just gave you claws"

now if he's always had claws then that makes no sense

[Frizzo the Clown]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
then whats with stryker's line

"you were always an animal, i just gave you claws"

now if he's always had claws then that makes no sense Well, the movies aren't following the comic books 100% or anything..so unless they delve deeper into Wolvies origins in any of the movies, it won't matter.

[spiderman_2k]

Maybe the movie is taking a different approach to the origin of his claws.

[spiderman_2k]

Stupid Frizzo said what i said but in more detail in the exact same minuite as me :D

[Frizzo the Clown]

Hey, I'm not stupid! I prefer to use the term "ignorant." :p

[spiderman_2k]

Duely noted if u do that again u are Ignorant Frizzo :D

[Jarbacca]

i think the movies are taking a different appraoch to wolvie's claws

cause in the first film, when rouge asks him if it hurt when they come out

he says

"everytime"

now you could look at this as him thinking about the adamantiam, or you could look at it as him thinking about the claws themself

also if the claws were there from birth wouldn't his hands be disigned with holes or something (you think if thats part of his mutation his body would have holes for the claws)

[spiderman_2k]

Spike from X-men evolution has no holes where all his spikes come out from.

[Jarbacca]

oh...

[spiderman_2k]

But also spike doesnt appear to be in pain everytime his spikes come out, maybe if there natural it doesnt hurt , unlike in the movies where it hurts wolvie as they are unnatural.
If that makes any sense :confused:

[Jarbacca]

did wolvie have holes in the comics?

[spiderman_2k]

Not that i know of......

[Jarbacca]

oh, i thought he had them in the cartoon

[spiderman_2k]

I think he has them in his gloves, u know the little silver bits above to give the cool affect.

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
I think he has them in his gloves, u know the little silver bits above to give the cool affect.

yeah, how come he doesn't have those on his movie suit?

i mean he must go through a lot of gloves :D

[spiderman_2k]

True lol

[Jarbacca]

speaking of movie suits, is there anyone else out there that wants to see the x-men in the suits they wear in the comics

i'd love to see wolvie in blue and yellow

[Marvin]

..............Psyloke...............

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Marvin
..............Psyloke...............

huh:confused:

[Marvin]

Asian dressed in identical (comicbook) costume to elektra except blue.

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Marvin
Asian dressed in identical (comicbook) costume to elektra except blue.

and your point is

[Sparhawk]

i don't mean to burst anyones bubble, but Marvel over the past bunch of years has been re-writing the books on alot of heroes in an attempt to keep them new. i collected X-Men, Wolverine, Weapon-X, Uncanny X-Men throughout the eighties and Logans claws were pure adamantium. if this "origins" storyline says otherwise it's because Marvel has decided to change that fact.

[Jarbacca]

oh, so its like DC comics crisis story line

[Sparhawk]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
oh, so its like DC comics crisis story line


hunh?

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Sparhawk
hunh?

in the mid 80's DC comics had a series called the crisis of infinite earths, it was basically written to establish one back story for many dc characters, so that changes in the past were erases

for example superman had several changes made from 1938-1986, so in crisis it was decided to write one history and to clear up some confussion or loose ends

[Sparhawk]

ah..........yeah sounds like the same thing. lets them pick up new fans without them having to read years of back issues to know whats going on.

it also gives true fans an idea of how long other "fans" have been reading the mags.

[Jarbacca]

right

[kimythegirl]

Wolverine can auto heal????






:p :D

[spiderman_2k]

:lol:

[gauze28]

it hurts wolvie when his claws (bones) come out. He said so himself

[spiderman_2k]

We already went over that point :rolleyes:

[Lackey]

Originally posted by Sparhawk
i don't mean to burst anyones bubble, but Marvel over the past bunch of years has been re-writing the books on alot of heroes in an attempt to keep them new. i collected X-Men, Wolverine, Weapon-X, Uncanny X-Men throughout the eighties and Logans claws were pure adamantium. if this "origins" storyline says otherwise it's because Marvel has decided to change that fact.


actually it was never said that his claws were pure adamantium or not... they just led us to believe that they were and that they were a result of weapon x.
When Magneto removed Wolverines adamantium and we saw that he had bone claws... this surprised even wolverine.
because of his memory loss, he didn't know that he had bone claws before the adamantium

Marvel is "re-writing" the stories now, but this is only in the Ultimate Universe (btw, I highly recommend Ultimate X-Men to everyone)... so it's not like the "Crisis" of DC.

[Marvin]

Ultimate X-men written by Mark Millar is the ****. The movie should have been loosely based on this title.

Pick up one ark and you're hooked.

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by Lackey
actually it was never said that his claws were pure adamantium or not... they just led us to believe that they were and that they were a result of weapon x.
When Magneto removed Wolverines adamantium and we saw that he had bone claws...


how did wolvie get the adamantium back?

[Tenafly Viper]

Apocalypse rebonded the metal to Wolverine' skeleton when he decided that Wolverine would be his new Horsemen Death.
http://wolverine.x-knights.com/fullsize/wolverine104.jpg

[S.A.M.G.]

Actually, most of the ultimate line is incredible, and is an attempt to bridge the gap between the movies and the comic book back stories. Many of the more fantastic elements (read as alien or space based) have been dropped, hence no alien symbiote suits, or computers based on alien shi'ar technology, to make them more "realistic".

[spiderman_2k]

Stupid UK we only up to Issue 3 of Ultimate X-Men, and its late out too :(

[nightbringer]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
a very odd direction

just one question, how come in x2 when wolvie is having his flashback does it show him screaming in terror when he sees claws coming out of his hands

almsot like hes never seen them before

I'm just gonna take a guess here and say that you don't know a whole lot about Wolverine do you? That's ok though. Well seeing as Wolverine has a backstory that would take hours to explain I'll make this as quick as possible. When he was part of the Weapon X program his memories were blocked/erased. So when he found himself the guinea pig of some Canucklehead scientists and the claws burst out of his hands he freaked out. A lot of people don't know that it actually does hurt him when he pops his claws, so he was in pain and freaking out.

[Jarbacca]

Originally posted by nightbringer
I'm just gonna take a guess here and say that you don't know a whole lot about Wolverine do you?

no not really, growing up i was always a superman fan

i never really got into x-men or any of the marvel superheroes

[Fanible]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
no not really, growing up i was always a superman fan

i never really got into x-men or any of the marvel superheroes

Well atleast Superman didn't change a whole lot.

Personally I only read one or two comic book lines. I'd get too caught up in them to read others.

Its sad that I use to read and play outside and have an imagination, and now I just play games and watch movies. Damn technology!

[Sparhawk]

Originally posted by Lackey
actually it was never said that his claws were pure adamantium or not...

in the 80's (83-86 i believe) Marvel ran a mag called " The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe" - i didn't buy all of them just the ones with my fav caracters.

i quote: "At the same time that the adamantium molecules were integrated into his skeleton, Wolverine was also equipped with his solid adamantium "claws"."

anywho, happens all the time with comics - but if the current belief is that Wolvies claws are bone underneath its because Marvel has done a rewrite to keep things fresh.

[Lackey]

so it was only that handbook that was wrong really...

that's the problem with making things like that and adding stuff that's not in comic book continuity

[Sparhawk]

sorry, i had no intent of belabouring the point but i dont understand.

are you saying that you dont think Marvel has ever modified a character or his/her backstory in order to "freshen up" the character or open new plot lines?

the handbook was not a book published by some third-party company. it was Marvel's difinative guide to it's own characters.

it is not wrong - if facts now appear wrong it's because a character has been modified, a common practice within the comic world over periods of time.

[Kris Hodgson]

I'm catching up on this thread.
Jarbacca: The reason there are no holes in Wolvie's hands is because he heals them every time he puts his claws back in. This would also explain why he says in the first movie "It hurts every time" (the claws come out). It hurts because the claws are actually cutting through his hands in order to come out. Then his healing factor kicks in and closes the wounds.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by Sparhawk
it is not wrong - if facts now appear wrong it's because a character has been modified, a common practice within the comic world over periods of time.


well, I could easily be wrong...

but I don't think it was ever stated or shown in the comics conclusively that Wolverine's claws were adamantium through and through and that he didn't have bone claws before the adamantium...

unless, of course, you can point to a certain issue in which this was shown or stated?

[nightbringer]

Originally posted by Sparhawk
i don't mean to burst anyones bubble, but Marvel over the past bunch of years has been re-writing the books on alot of heroes in an attempt to keep them new. i collected X-Men, Wolverine, Weapon-X, Uncanny X-Men throughout the eighties and Logans claws were pure adamantium. if this "origins" storyline says otherwise it's because Marvel has decided to change that fact.

Sorry man I'm not trying to be a dick, but you are wrong. Two comics point out that the claws are bone. One is the one you mentioned Origins. It shows Wolverine having the claws as a child. The second comic to prove he has bone claws is after X-Men #25 when Magneto pulls out his adamantium and a few issues later he has bone claws.

[Tony Montana]

Originally posted by Jarbacca
speaking of movie suits, is there anyone else out there that wants to see the x-men in the suits they wear in the comics

i'd love to see wolvie in blue and yellow


About their original suits:

In X-Men 1, Wolverin complained about the suits and someone (I have forgot who) asked him if he would prefere yellow and blue latex suit... LOL!