Troy

[Stutteringbboy3]

Just wondering if you guys think Wolfgang's new movie, based on the war at Troy will be a "Popcorn" or a Oscar Contender.

Also, what is the name of George Clooney's project based on the story about 300 Spartans holding off 4000 Persians (i know i am not right with the Persian number)

[Doomsday]

Troy will be awesome, the story behind the fall of Troy is probably the greatest epic in history, and if this movie is made right, it could blow Gladiator off the map.

Clooney's movie is based on the book "Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield. This is a modern classic, I've read it myself. It's the true story of 300 Spartan warriors who took on tens of thousands of Persian soldiers at the narrow pass of Thermopylae Ovre a battle lasting several days, all 300 Spartans were killed, but thousands upon thousands of Persians were slaughtered. This bought enough time for the Greek army to counteract the Persian invasion, and this single stand by 300 men changed the couse of democracy and history as we know it. This is my second most anticipated movie, only behind Indiana Jones 4.

[Payne45]

There sure has been losts of casting news in the last 2 months for Troy. But what's the deal on Gates of Fire? Is this project stalled or is it rolling?

[Clark Savage Jr]

I haven't heard anything about Clooney making gates of Fire, is it just in prelimenary stages? There was an Italian film in the 60's about this called 300 Spartans, as I recall it was pretty good.

[Boods]

Originally posted by Doomsday
Troy will be awesome, the story behind the fall of Troy is probably the greatest epic in history, and if this movie is made right, it could blow Gladiator off the map.

Clooney's movie is based on the book "Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield. This is a modern classic, I've read it myself. It's the true story of 300 Spartan warriors who took on tens of thousands of Persian soldiers at the narrow pass of Thermopylae Ovre a battle lasting several days, all 300 Spartans were killed, but thousands upon thousands of Persians were slaughtered. This bought enough time for the Greek army to counteract the Persian invasion, and this single stand by 300 men changed the couse of democracy and history as we know it. This is my second most anticipated movie, only behind Indiana Jones 4.

COMPLETELY AGREED ABOUT TROY

never knew the story of gates of fire .... sounds amazing .... if they make a movie of that it would be amazing probably

[Stutteringbboy3]

Thanks for your thoughts. I didn't need the info on the story behind Gates of Fire (I am a history major.) Just wondering on where it was in the planning stages.

[MDbum]

Supposedly Michael Mann(Heat, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans) is set to direct and most likely Clooney will portray Leonidas. Screenplay will be written by David Self. (13 Days)
The movie will most likely follow the novel. Where you you follow the eyes of the sole survivor (Zeones) of Thermopalye from his childhood through military training to the ending battle. Well i'm sure you read the book Stutteringboy....
Supposedly the battle scene will be very grand and long...

Here's a link to the script review of Gates of Fire
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/36023p1.html


This recent "sword and sandles" trend will lead to such films as King Arthur, Hannibal, and currently in production i belive or soon to be Alexander the Great.

BTW, i'm irked by the idea of Bruce Willis starring...

[Boods]

so did anyone survive the battle out of the 300 soldiers ???

[Boods]

BTW this sounds a bit like lotr :ttt .... 300 VS 10000 .... helms deep ... i know gates of fire is real history but maybe tolkien wa inspired by this ... although some people survive in helms deep whereas apparently no one does in gates of fire

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by Boods
so did anyone survive the battle out of the 300 soldiers ???

The Persians eventually overcame the Spartans. I believe all 300 Spartans were killed, but not after killing thousands of Persian warriors.

[Knerys]

I think Troy is going to be epic. I look forward to it.

As for Gates of Fire I knew of the event didn't know they were going to make of it. Definitely something I would want to see.

[southern]

Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana

do you even have to ask?:p :D

[Stutteringbboy3]

Actually the Persians let 2 Spartans live. One of them commited suicide and the one is what the story is told through, I believe.

Vin Diesel as Hannibal?????????? WHY WHY WHY,well we can hope that he may be good.

[todd philip]

this sounds freakin awesome !!! i luv these types of films !!!!!!!!!!!

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by Stutteringbboy3
Actually the Persians let 2 Spartans live. One of them commited suicide and the one is what the story is told through, I believe.


I think the narrator for Gates Of Fire is fictional. But as for reality, I think, I'm preeeeeeetty sure, all the Spartans were killed, but I could be wrong. Like you said, 2 might have survived, you probably know more than I do. :p

[KayTang999]

Does anyone know who is going to be Helen?

[Doomsday]

I dunno, but I hope it's someone hot, but no a retard actress. I don't wanna see Brittney Spears making her second movie starring as Helen. I wanna see someone like...Ingrid Bergman, only if she was alive and 30.

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Does anyone know who is going to be Helen?

check www.imdb.com

i think they should have it on there.....other than that i forgot her name

[Cipher Jo]

Both of these films sound like great entertainment

http://atlas.imagemagician.com/thumbs/_sumekiri_100smithvsneo.gif

[southern]

Brad Pitt Achilles
Eric Bana Hector
Orlando Bloom Paris
Ciarán Hinds Agamemnon (unconfirmed)
Claire Forlani Helen (unconfirmed)
Emilio Estevez (unconfirmed)
Michael Clarke Duncan (unconfirmed



Sean Bean resently made a remark that he may play Odysseus
if so :applaud:

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
Sean Bean resently made a remark that he may play Odysseus
if so :applaud: That would be perfect.

[Colorado Cajun]

LOL Orlando is Paris the rich, whiny, pansie :applaud:

[southern]

the only thing i can already tell you i'm NOT going to like is
ORLANDO, BRAD & ERIC DYING:waa:

[southern]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
LOL Orlando is Paris the rich, whiny, pansie :applaud:

BLASPHEMY

you are want me to beat you don't you:p

[Colorado Cajun]

That's what Paris was though :p

[southern]

so don't have to remind me:nono:

[Colorado Cajun]

:p you and Mel:D

[southern]

mel?

[Colorado Cajun]

Mel would be Knerys

[southern]

oh

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
the only thing i can already tell you i'm NOT going to like is
ORLANDO, BRAD & ERIC DYING:waa: Well if you have read the Illiad then you are ready for this, but I understand...:(

[southern]

i've only read the odyssey
but i know what happens................huge mythology fan

i'm still going to be :waa:

[Cipher Jo]

If the Sean Bean thing is right, that would be AMAZING oh yeah

http://atlas.imagemagician.com/thumbs/_sumekiri_100smithvsneo.gif

[KayTang999]

I was reading Colin Farrell's interview on DarkHorizons' site and at the end it said that his next project will be The Trojan War and Alexander the Great. Now my question is which Trojan War is he talking about.

And yeah I heard about Sean Bean too. If Bean and Farrell added to the cast, damn the women will love this movie so much. I know I am.

:applaud:

[Doomsday]

Well, if Orlando Bloom plays Paris, I don't think he ends up dying. Actually, I think Paris is the only guy that comes out of this story alive.

[southern]

Originally posted by Doomsday
Well, if Orlando Bloom plays Paris, I don't think he ends up dying. Actually, I think Paris is the only guy that comes out of this story alive.

and which version is that?.........by far my favorite
but all the ones i've read and seen have him dying

[Doomsday]

I might be thinking of Vergil's Aeneid, but who knows, he may in that as well. I was just pretty sure he didn't.

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
huge mythology fan
ahhhhh the masses are growing.:applaud:

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
ahhhhh the masses are growing.:applaud:

:funny:

yep i've been a lover of it for a long time:D

[KayTang999]

According to the site http://ldjw-films.8k.com/custom3.html they said that Claire Forlani and Michael Clark Duncan had confirmed that they will be in the movie. So I guess we got Helen and Ajax now.

I think all of the version of Trojan War indicated that Paris died. He was shot with Hercules' arrow by someone I don't remember the name. He was one of main character that was killed almost the end of the war. He was supposed to be heal by his first wife who is a water nymp (spelling), but she refused because he left her for Helen. Later she killed herself after she learned that Paris died.

However, since it based on the Iliad, the movie probably won't reach to the point where Paris was killed.

[Stutteringbboy3]

What do you mean, we won't see Paris die. They are going to finish it, in one long movie, not have a sequel.

[LoreMistress]

Brad Pitt as Achilles?

By Zeus, I'm going to be sick...

Russell Crowe, maybe. Brad Pitt, :clown:

(What, no "barf" icon?)

[southern]

im not so sure of Claire playing Helen
she's pretty yes but i don't think she has "the faced that launched a 1000 ships"

[Knerys]

I have to agree with you on that....but then again I can't think of a single actress that could really fit the part....

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
I have to agree with you on that....but then again I can't think of a single actress that could really fit the part....

i'm still thinking of at least one;)

to bad the woman who played Lucilla in Gladiator is a bit too old for the part because she would be perfect:)

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by Stutteringbboy3
What do you mean, we won't see Paris die. They are going to finish it, in one long movie, not have a sequel.

If my info was right that they based it from Iliad and that they are so true to the story then the only person you will see dead is Hector. However, that not the end of the war but I assume it is the end of the movie because that where Iliad ended. But I don't know much about the script because in the script review they only say that there will be no Gods and it's pretty much based on Iliad. So that the assumption I have from the script review.

Iliad is only part of the whole 10 years war not the whole story. It is only focusing on Hector and Achilles. You can go to sparknotes and get the summary of this Homer work.

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
i'm still thinking of at least one;)

To bad the woman who played Lucilla in Gladiator is a bit too old for the part because she would be perfect:) Connie Nielon (yes Iben we know she's Danish ;) ) Actually I will have to agree with you on that. Nice choice.

[southern]

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/0428-hal/okeefej1.dil
not the best pic of her but she wouldn't be such a bad choice

[Knerys]

http://members.rogers.com/r1january92/kurt/films/soldier/soldier2/connie2sol.jpg

Here's another....

[southern]

the one i posted is Jodi Lyn O'Keefe;)

but i really wish she(Connie N) was younger cause she would be perfect

[Stutteringbboy3]

I have read the Iliad. Its requiered for me to read it. However, you are wrong. They are not going to base the movie on the book. They are going to cover the whole war, because that is what people(the general public, including me) want. It is going to cover all 10 years till the end, thats what will get them the most money.

[southern]

nope your wrong

from CS
Troy is an adaptation of classic "The Iliad," a story set against the Trojan War and the rivalry between Achilles and Hector.

[Stutteringbboy3]

You could be wrong as well. We won't know until it is made and seen at a theater near you.

[southern]

Originally posted by Stutteringbboy3
You could be wrong as well. We won't know until it is made and seen at a theater near you.

1) don't be a hypocrit
2) have you even read anything about the movie yet:rolleyes:

[Stutteringbboy3]

no...I want to be surprised.
~As said by Mango.

[southern]

then don't be an ***hole

[KayTang999]

Thank Southern, even if you didn't support my point but your point and my point are similar. I think.

According to the review script at filmforce, it is based on the "Iliad" unless after they review the script and changed the whole script and didn't announce it in the public.

As far as what ordinary people know, it is based on "Iliad".

Another thing, I don't think they can put the whole 10 years war in one movies. That is not possible even with 5 hours long movie. Do you know how many major battles in the whole 10 years war???

If they are going to make a film of the whole thing, I think they would be a bit smarter to make a sequel and make more money that way.

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Thank Southern, even if you didn't support my point but your point and my point are similar.

again i say i like your version better;)

[KayTang999]

LOL Thanks!

I don't think Claire Forlani as Helen is the best choice but she can passed being one. There are many girls out there who would make a better Helen. But I can live with Claire Forlani as Helen.

[Knerys]

LOL, I thought she looked alittle different in that pic. My bad.:o

[southern]

it's ok:D

wadda bout:
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1442/BridgetMoy_Grani_484383_400.jpg

[KayTang999]

Bridget Moynahan??? Her beauty will be fine as Helen but she is a bit older than Bloom. So it won't be that convincing.

[southern]

yeah i no:(


i still say jodi lyn o keefe isn't half bad of a choice
better pic
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/monsters__inc_/jodi_lyn_o_keefe/monsterspre6.jpg

[ILOVEKATIE]

i love movies like these. I like the whole mythology thing, i'm into that, the stories are cool, I remember readin the odyssey, and I also saw the tv movie based on it, pretty awesome.
I love epic movies like that, this movie should not be miss.

[southern]

:applaud:add another to the ranks:applaud:

[KayTang999]

I posted so much so you probably can tell how much I like this topic. I read a lot myths, epic fantasy, sci-fi, etc. Parts of them are for requirement and just for my own personal interest.

I just don't want to see this movie go to hell because the makers of the film didn't care about how precious the work is.

Jodi has this bad girl image stuck on her because of her previous movies. That will be hard to convincing the audiences. But she is pretty enough to be Helen.

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
yeah i no:(


i still say jodi lyn o keefe isn't half bad of a choice
better pic
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/monsters__inc_/jodi_lyn_o_keefe/monsterspre6.jpg What's she from?

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Jodi has this bad girl image stuck on her because of her previous movies. That will be hard to convincing the audiences. But she is pretty enough to be Helen.

she was really good in Crow Salvation (very limited onscreen time but still was wonderful)



What's she from?
She's All That
Crow:Salvation
Nash Bridges

[Omega Supreme]

I am very much lookng forward to this one. Ever since I could read I've been drawn to mythology (greek, roman, celtic you name it) fantasy and sci-fi books.

Plus Orlando Bloom is in it! If his performance in LotR's is anything to go by, and with theother films he'll be appearing in soon, he looks set to become one very talented actor.

And Eric Bana is just a dood!

Yes, very much looking forward to this :cool:

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern

She's All That
Crow:Salvation
Nash Bridges And I have seen none of those.:(

But thanks anyway.:)

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
And I have seen none of those.:(

But thanks anyway.:)

:(

well if you have the USA network you can watch nash bridges and She's all that is playing there quite frequently;)

[KayTang999]

They moved the filming from Morocco to Mexico.

[Knerys]

Interesting, for the better I hope.

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by southern
she was really good in Crow Salvation (very limited onscreen time but still was wonderful)




She's All That
Crow:Salvation
Nash Bridges
*shakes fist at Crow Salvation*

How dare you continue to ruin what was a classic film!!!

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by Knerys
And I have seen none of those.:(

But thanks anyway.:)
You can have my Salvation dvd

[southern]

not a fan of salvation?:p

[KayTang999]

The whole movie will be film in Mexico.

[Knerys]

Hehe, anyone up for a trip to Mexico?;)

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
Hehe, anyone up for a trip to Mexico?;)

bags are already packed;) :p

[southern]

this is Helen:
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/antitrust/claire_forlani/antitrustpre.jpg
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/antitrust/claire_forlani/antitrust.jpg
http://topsailcody.covers.de/nonono2.gif

[KayTang999]

Blame the casting director for being too naive.

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
bags are already packed;) :p Sweet! I get the travel arrangements.

[Knerys]

Eh, she's not Helen.......

[KayTang999]

Get me a ticket too would ya???

[KayTang999]

Well why don't we form a strike???

LOL

[Knerys]

Three tickets got cha. Anyone else?

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
Eh, she's not Helen.......
unfortunately the studios think she is

[southern]

my Helen:
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/monsters__inc_/jodi_lyn_o_keefe/monsterspre6.jpg
granted that's not the best pic of her

there Helen:
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/antitrust/claire_forlani/antitrustpre.jpg

[Knerys]

Forlani just doesn't have the classical Greek look.....

[KayTang999]

She doesn't look anything remotely close to what a Greek should look like.

[southern]

greek no
a rat (first pic only) YES:(

[KayTang999]

LOL, no comment on that one.

[KayTang999]

3 links to the script reviews, read at you own risk.

http://www.tnmc.org/dp/1029021.shtml
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13014
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/376/376848p1.html

They all contain the plot of the movie.

[Omega Supreme]

Thanks for those links. It sounds like it's gonna be well worth it. It just so hope that the studios don't screw all these upcoming historical epics.

[KayTang999]

I will give it 45% of screw up rate. I can tell you, it will not be perfect but it will really good.

[southern]

May 21, 2004------scheduled release date

but seeing how they haven't even started to work on it it will changemore than likely

[KayTang999]

I would assume so too and there are so many big summer blockbuster coming during that time too.

[todd philip]

cant wait to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[KayTang999]

It seems to be that there will be a lot of good movie coming out during that time. It will be another amazing summer.

[Stutteringbboy3]

I started the thread and 98 later, only a handfull of people have answered my question.
Do you think Troy will be like Gladiator and Braveheart? Released in the Summer and go on to win Best Picture.
or
Will it just be a popcorn movie, filled with lots of swords and flashes instead of story.

[Kris Hodgson]

Originally posted by Stutteringbboy3
I started the thread and 98 later, only a handfull of people have answered my question.
Do you think Troy will be like Gladiator and Braveheart? Released in the Summer and go on to win Best Picture.
or
Will it just be a popcorn movie, filled with lots of swords and flashes instead of story.

If done properly, and on an epic scale, it could have all of the makings of a best picture.

[KayTang999]

Yeah, it is depend on how it turn out. So far the casting look great to me. The script seems really good. They might be able to get Oscar nods. But then that is depend on what will be out in 2004. I assume that Troy won't be the only good movie out.

[Victor Hugo]

What is the release date for Troy?

[KayTang999]

May 21, 2004

This is current schedule, it probably will be change since MI: 3 and Van Helsing are coming out during that time.

Brad or Tom or Hugh???

Hmm

I will go with Brad because Brad got Orlando. LOL

[southern]

i'll take Brad, Eric, and Orlando over them all:D

[Victor Hugo]

Nice Job Thanks.

[KayTang999]

I give the credit to southern because she posted it on the previous page, I just used her info.

Thank southern.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999


I will go with Brad because Brad got Orlando. LOL

Brad and Orlando.......mmmmmm!:D

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I give the credit to southern because she posted it on the previous page, I just used her info.

Thank southern.

:)


check your pm's;)

[KayTang999]

I did, LOL.

[KayTang999]

Well Sean Bean and Brian Cox is officially added to the cast of Troy. According to comingsoon.net

[southern]

:applaud:

Orlando Bloom
Sean Bean
Brad Pitt
Eric Bana

ROAD TROP TO MEXICO:D

[Knerys]

Yes they have Sean Bean!

I get shotgun!;)

[southern]

http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/contrib/sarge/SierraC3.gif

:)

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/contrib/sarge/SierraC3.gif

:) Hehe nice!

[KayTang999]

Aw, that is a nice car. Bad news is they are not shooting anytime soon according to imdb.

[KayTang999]

More casting news!!!

According to "The Observer" (UK) Saffron Burrows is set to play Helen. But "Daily Mail" (UK) stated that she will play Andromache (Hector's wife).

I think she will be Andromache. Helen is probably Claire like it was said previously.

[Knerys]

Originally posted by KayTang999
More casting news!!!

According to "The Observer" (UK) Saffron Burrows is set to play Helen. But "Daily Mail" (UK) stated that she will play Andromache (Hector's wife).

I think she will be Andromache. Helen is probably Claire like it was said previously. Ooooooo Burrrows would actually be a good Helen. But she'd be a good Andromache as well.....

[southern]

she'll probably be playing Andromache
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1194/SaffronBurrows_Granitz_184820.jpg

[KayTang999]

Oh yeah, 100% Andromeche. Too old to be Helen. The beauty would pass for being one but the age is not right.

[MovieWes]

Peter O'Toole (Lawrence of Arabia) has joined the cast. I have heard that he will play a character named Menelaus.

[Knerys]

Originally posted by MovieWes
Peter O'Toole (Lawrence of Arabia) has joined the cast. I have heard that he will play a character named Menelaus. Hmmm, I guess I didn't think he would be that old. Though O'Toole is a good choice.

[southern]

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1666/PeterOTool_Arun_589897_400.jpg

i didn't think Menelaus is that old in the Illiad:confused:

[Knerys]

See either did I......heh......

[KayTang999]

Umm no he is not Menelaus, he will be Priam, Hector and Paris' father, the King of Troy.

[Knerys]

Ok that makes sooooo much more sense.

[KayTang999]

Yeah, if you actually go and check the news at the main page of comingsoon you will find that news.

[Knerys]

On my way.

[KayTang999]

I am pretty sure that he is Priam. That role is perfect of Peter because it requires a lot of talent. If you know what I mean.

[Cipher Jo]

What a great cast

[KayTang999]

And guess what, this is only the beginning. There are more to be casted.

[southern]

The cast so far: yes i'm bored
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/0470-mee/pitt_bra.d#3
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1285/EricBana_Granitz_301281_400.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1295/OrlandoBloom_DeGuire_315760_400.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1020/hannah_byrne1.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1384/SeanBean_Mazur_384331_400.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1666/PeterOTool_Arun_589897_400.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1194/SaffronBurrows_Granitz_184820.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1407/BrianCox_Wargo_411333_400.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/0463-lat/estevez1.mil
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/0212-ham/christie.jul

[Cipher Jo]

I was thinking of making a poster for Troy. I too am bored

[KayTang999]

Make that 3, I am bored too. I want to see the first pic of the production!!!

[Stutteringbboy3]

I have a few questions that have been pondering in my head.
1. What role has Emilo Estevez been offered. I don't think i am the only one in saying that its good to see him mentioned to be in this, even if it is a smaller part.
2. My second question is what is with Eric Bana. How did he go from being in one good movie, Black Hawk Down. To nailing leading roles in Hulk and Troy. Was it all becasue of Black Hawk Down????

[Rizor]

Originally posted by Stutteringbboy3
2. My second question is what is with Eric Bana. How did he go from being in one good movie, Black Hawk Down. To nailing leading roles in Hulk and Troy. Was it all becasue of Black Hawk Down???? I believe he was cast in Hulk before BHD even came out, so I'm guessing no. I'd guess it's because if his role in the Australian movie Chopper that's giving him the roles.

[southern]

Originally posted by Stutteringbboy3
1. What role has Emilo Estevez been offered. I don't think i am the only one in saying that its good to see him mentioned to be in this, even if it is a smaller part.

Patrolocus(sp?)---he was Achilles' best friend. i don't think they make them gay in Troy though (for those of you who know what i'm talking about;) )

[KayTang999]

Patroclus, where did you get that info?

I know that he was attached to the project but when I check at imdb his name is not on the list anymore. It would be interesting to see him as Patroclus. At first I thought that he might Menelaus but then I think he is too young for that role.

Ciaran Hinds is probably Menelaus if he is still attached to the project.

Hulk filming was after BHD release in theater. I am not sure if he was casted as Hulk before or after the film was out. But he is a really famous actor in Australia. His co-star status in BHD might put him in the the spotlight and known to the Hollywood society. Either way I think he is perfect for both Hector and Hulk. WOW 2 'H'.

[KayTang999]

Julie Christie is casted as Thetis, Achilles' mother. The filming schedule and locations still same. If they can't do it Morocco, then they will moved to either Mexico or Spain.

Source: commingsoon.net

[todd philip]

emilio estevez is in this :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Knerys]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Julie Christie is casted as Thetis, Achilles' mother. Nice.

[southern]

apparently rumor has it that this is Menalous(sp?):
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0120755/22

[southern]

According to Reuters, Variety has confirmed today that Peter O'Toole and Julie Christie have been added to the cast of Troy in starring roles, and also confirmed that Saffron Burrows has been cast as Andromache, wife of Hector. O'Toole will play Priam, the king of Troy and father to Hector (Eric Bana) and Paris (Orlando) and Christie will play Thetis, the mother of Achilles (Brad Pitt). Empire Online also reports Wolfgang Petersen's comments regarding the current fears about shooting in Morocco. According to Petersen, filming will definitely begin April 22 in London and will then move to Malta: "We won't be shooting those final battle scenes until July or August. If things are going on in the world that make Morocco impossible, we have explored Mexico and Spain. Of course, we will take care of the security and safety of everybody involved, but the movie will happen and there won't be a week of delay. Everything is in place, cast included." Petersen also says that he is "close to choosing a newcomer" to play Helen of Troy

[Knerys]

New comer, hmmmmm......

[KayTang999]

Brendan Gleason is Menelaus.

The writer is offering answer the question

here is the link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/webaccess/index.shtml

[southern]

Petersen is still looking for an actress to play Helen to Pitt's Achilles and Bloom's Paris. And it seems the face who launched a thousand ships will be played by a newcomer. Apparently the director is close to casting his leading lady after a worldwide search; 'She has to be believable as the face that launched 1,000 ships and caused the Greeks to go against Troy,' he explains. 'She has to be that beautiful.'


well that officially confirms Claire Forlani isn't going to be Helen
:applaud:


someone on IMDB suggested
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0163978/3
and i agree, she would be good and she looks the right age

[KayTang999]

That is Bridget Moynahan. I think I said this before but she is really beautiful but she seems a bit too old for Orlando's Paris. Yeah, her face could launch 1000 ships but the age doesn't compliment well with Paris (Orlando).

[southern]

That is Bridget Moynahan

no it's the girl from the movie "the Beach"
i forget her name

[jackknife]

Virginie Ledoyen.

[southern]

thank you

FULL BLOOM reports that Rhona Mitra
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0256415/18_CT-767.jpg
may be in talks to play Helen

[KayTang999]

Now that the Greek look that we are talking about. But is she hot enough to launch the 1000 ships, I don't know.

My bad about that girl from "The Beach"

Sorry

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
My bad about that girl from "The Beach"

Sorry

don't be
she does resemble her though

she's also the girl in Man in the Iron Mask that Leo is dancing with at the ball (for those like me who never bothered to see the Beach)

[KayTang999]

She was in 2 of Leo movies?

[Knerys]

I don't thuink that was her. But I think Virginie would be a good choice.

[evilsquishy]

I think she was cast pretty well. Costume does a lot.

[KayTang999]

I really want to know who is going to be Helen. Must be good because other characters were casted really well.

[southern]

http://fp.blockbuster.com/is/bb/video/46/95/V000094695.jpg?cell=200,200&cvt=jpeg

that movie is from 1956

[todd philip]

man i'm soooooooooooooooo happy these types of movies are coming back!!! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: big, lavish, epics!!!:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[southern]

yeah it's about damn time they did something different

[ILOVEKATIE]

I know, its great!

[Knerys]

Perosnally I just love acient histroy and mythlogy so this is perfect. Bring it on.:applaud:

[KayTang999]

OMG, I love myth, ancient, history, ect. you name it. If is not because of my parent my major would have been Classic.

[southern]

i love mythology

i was lucky cause i was in the last myth class at my high school that they had:applaud:

but the teacher we got half way through the year didn't have a clue what she was doing so who did she ask for help?

ME :D
that was a fun class

[ILOVEKATIE]

I had a mythology class in 8th grade, it was awesome! That was the first time I ever saw Clash of the Titans, which I thought was great. But I always had a special interest on mythology, I don't know... I just naturally like it.:)
Oh and did I mention how much I'm looking forward to seeing this film? Can't wait!
By the way, if some of you haven't seen the tv movie on The Odyssey that was shown I believe around 5 or 6 years ago on tv, is now on dvd, I highly recomended, its a great film, IMO.

[southern]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
By the way, if some of you haven't seen the tv movie on The Odyssey that was shown I believe around 5 or 6 years ago on tv, is now on dvd, I highly recomended, its a great film, IMO.

that movie was really good:)

[KayTang999]

I heard something about USA Network are making a movie based on one of the Greek myth. I don't remember what it was.

[southern]

i think i read that they are doing Spartacus

[KayTang999]

I see. That will be really interesting.

[southern]

i think i read that on IMDB messege boards under Troy;)

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
i think i read that they are doing Spartacus Really? Are they remaking it?

[southern]

i know that i read it somewhere today but i visit so many boards i can't remember where

i'll look to see if i can find it

[Knerys]

Originally posted by southern
i know that i read it somewhere today but i visit so many boards i can't remember where

i'll look to see if i can find it Cool. Let me know if you do.

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
Cool. Let me know if you do.

will do:)

[todd philip]

Originally posted by southern
i think i read that they are doing Spartacus now why the hell would anyone remake a perfect movie!!! :alien:

[Stutteringbboy3]

To fix that whole hair problem, they didn't have flat tops in Ancient Rome. Just kidding not to sure why they would remake a great movie.

[KayTang999]

I guess they probably think that they can do it better because of the new technique that they have.

Ah, Hollywood.

[southern]

someone at IMDB suggested her:
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1362/JosieMaran_Vespa_322540_400.jpg
as Helen i and i agree with them

[Rizor]

Josie's cute, but I don't think she fits the descript.

[Knerys]

Not bad.

[todd philip]

to young

[southern]

Originally posted by todd philip
to young

no she's not

[KayTang999]

She is not too young but can she lived up to the myth, that the problem.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by todd philip
to young
She's not, but even so, makeup can do wonders!

[KayTang999]

Oh yeah totally agree on that. Just look at how they can transformed OB to Legolas, isn't that amazing???

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Oh yeah totally agree on that. Just look at how they can transformed OB to Legolas, isn't that amazing???
That was amazing!
And Davies into Gimli....even Viggo into Aragorn.
If I'd have seen them before FOTR came out, I couldn't have imagined how they'd look in there!

[KayTang999]

The magical of technology on films.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
The magical of technology on films.
Making ugly people pretty
and making pretty people even prettier!

[KayTang999]

They can make pretty people ugly too.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
They can make pretty people ugly too.
Case in point Brad Pitt looking really weird in 12 monkeys....?

[KayTang999]

Tom Cruise at the end of Interview with Vampire.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Tom Cruise at the end of Interview with Vampire.
Good point.
Though sometimes, the crazy look works for people.

[KayTang999]

OH yeah, definately.

[southern]

Newcomer Garrett Hedlund has been added to the all-star cast of Warner Bros. Hedlund will play Patroclus, Achilles' teenage cousin who has warrior aspirations. The role marks a coup for Hedlund, a Minnesota native who arrived in Los Angeles last month to pursue an acting career. "Troy" was the first audition he was sent on. David Benioff wrote the script, which Petersen also is producing.

[KayTang999]

Good to know that there is at least a newcomer for this movie.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Good to know that there is at least a newcomer for this movie.
Sometimes they do their best work like that.

[southern]

i.e. ORLANDO BL:heart::heart:M!:D

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by southern
i.e. ORLANDO BL:heart::heart:M!:D
You bet!!!!:applaud:

[KayTang999]

Bloom for Troy or Bloom for LOTR???

Bloom for Troy is not new comer.

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Bloom for Troy or Bloom for LOTR???

Bloom for Troy is not new comer.

LOTR;)

[KayTang999]

Claire Forlani gave an interview to E! and stated that the Helen thing is just a rumor. So she is not Helen. Source: FullBloom

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by southern
LOTR;)
And a heck of a premiere for him!:D

[KayTang999]

Imagine if he wasn't Legolas. It would be really interesting who would do that role.

Anyway, I read Empire online and they said Brad and Orlando will have a big fight. Ok, I know that Achilles killed Hector and Paris killed Achilles. But the second fight is not in Iliad.

What is going on here???

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Imagine if he wasn't Legolas. It would be really interesting who would do that role.

Anyway, I read Empire online and they said Brad and Orlando will have a big fight.

Heh.....drool....:D

[KayTang999]

Yeah, droolable alright.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Yeah, droolable alright.
That's a good word!

[KayTang999]

Is that even a word???

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Is that even a word??? When it comes to Orlando.....yes:D

[KayTang999]

Yeah, it does isn't it ;)

[Knerys]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Yeah, it does isn't it ;) Hehehehehehe

[KayTang999]

I want to know now who got to be Helen.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I want to know now who got to be Helen.
Hopefully someone who can keep up with the rest of the amazing cast....

[Rizor]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I want to know now who got to be Helen. Since Helen is supposedly so damn beautiful, they should go ahead and make her a CGI character.:D

[KayTang999]

:lol:

Yeah, that would be remarkable.

[Knerys]

I just saw somewhere that Kriten Kruek has been asked to try for the role of Helen. Thoughts anyone?

[southern]

:nono:
terrible choice

i wish they would consider Jessica Brooks (i can't find a good pic of her)

[southern]

from a Q & A:
How do you handle the pressure and the responsibility that comes with adapting The Iliad - one of the most important books in literature? Mirtha
I don't type my sentences on an arena's pitch, surrounded by thousands of cheering or booing fans - I don't feel pressure to please a crowd. While working on "Troy", I can't think, "Oh my Lord, this is the mother of all epics, the cornerstone of Western literature. If I screw it up, classicists around the world will issue a fatwa and assassinate me with bronze daggers."

I can't measure up to Homer. His composition has survived for nearly three millennia and remains the world's most beautiful and mournful depiction of war. But the story of the Trojan War does not belong to Homer. The characters he employs were legendary long before he was born. Dozens of different versions of the War have been told, and my script ransacks ideas from several of them. The script is not, truly, an adaptation of The Iliad. It is a retelling of the entire Trojan War story. So I'm not worried about desecrating a classic - Homer will survive Hollywood.

Other than The Iliad, what sources are you using for the "Troy" screenplay? Mary
The Odyssey, The Aeneid, Ovid's Metamorphoses, Robert Graves' The Greek Myths and a good detail of critical literature, particularly the work of Bernard Knox, whose introduction to Robert Fagles' superb translation of The Iliad is probably my single favorite work of Homeric analysis.

I was wondering why The Gods of Olympus were excluded from "Troy", who all played a big part in The Iliad. Steph
"Troy" is an adaptation of the Trojan War myth in its entirety, not The Iliad alone. The Iliad begins with the quarrel between Achilles and Agamemnon over the slave girl Briseis, nine years into the war. The equivalent scene occurs halfway through my script. Meanwhile, The Iliad ends after Priam returns from Achilles' shelter with his grim cargo - long before the construction of the Trojan Horse, and a good twenty pages before my script ends.

This is a massive story that we're trying to tell in two-and-a-half hours. The narrative is crammed with some of literature's most intriguing characters: Achilles, Hector, Helen, Paris, Priam, Odysseus, Agamemnon, Patroclus, etc. All these characters have to emerge on screen as fully realized human beings. The battle scenes have to mirror the epic confrontations Homer described. The journey of the thousand ships from Greece to Troy has to be depicted. Everything takes times, and we're not making a twelve-hour miniseries. We're not making a trilogy of three-hour movies.

There is no such thing as a faithful adaptation. Even when I adapted my own (very slim, very un-epic) novel, I had to eliminate one of my favorite characters, because there simply wasn't enough time to tell his story along with everyone else's. Every adaptation requires that the screenwriter make difficult choices - and in particular, difficult cuts. In the case of "Troy", I chose to tell the human story: the story of Helen's love for Paris, of Achilles' epic duel with Hector, of the fatal trap that Odysseus sprung on the Trojans.

The gods do not appear on screen but their presence is everywhere and their influence profound.

What is your take on Helen of Troy? Was she the ultimate bad girl, or a victim of circumstances beyond her control? Cat
Well, neither, really. Tolstoy must have thought about Helen when creating his Anna - a woman famed for her beauty, bored with her marriage, abandoning her home for a dashing but somewhat feckless suitor. If we strictly adhere to the mythology, it would be fair to call her a victim of circumstances, for she was the prize Aphrodite gifted Paris upon being awarded the golden apple. But, as stated ad nauseam above, the gods are not floating about Mt. Olympus in this telling, and there is no deus ex machina. If Helen's will is free, the choice is her own, and the consequences on her own conscience. I think - I hope - that the script doesn't judge her for the choice, but doesn't shy away from depicting the devastation such a choice inflicted on innocent people.

If the "Troy" is well received, do you think that there would be any chance of a sequel, maybe in the form of The Odyssey? And would you write the script? Mike Devreux
As this is Hollywood, I'd say if the movie makes money (as opposed to whether it's well received or not), there's an excellent chance for a sequel. So an Odyssey is possible, or the studio could go in a different direction and take on The Aeneid. Either way, I wouldn't want to take myself out of the running prematurely, but currently I'm not keen on the idea.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Thanks for the Q & A southern, it was cool.

[Spide®Man]

Originally posted by southern
:nono:
terrible choice

i wish they would consider Jessica Brooks (i can't find a good pic of her)

http://216.40.249.192/s/contrib/edoom/let_it_all_out.gif What do you mean terrible choice? Kristin Kreuk is very beautiful person!

Would you prefer this?
http://www.boomspeed.com/kkreuk2/jessicabrooks_childrenofdune1.jpe
http://mindscraps.com/s/cwm/3dlil/puke.gif

Or this?
http://www.boomspeed.com/kkreuk2/mag17.jpe
http://mindscraps.com/s/otn/love/love.gifhttp://216.40.249.192/s/otn/love/luxlove.gif

[southern]

this
http://www.boomspeed.com/kkreuk2/jessicabrooks_childrenofdune1.jpe

and you're welcome ILOVEKATIE:)

[Knerys]

Honestly I think Kruek is too young. Thisis a stuff one, because no one really jumps out at as the Helen.

But yeah nice Q&A southern.

[southern]

Kriten Kruek jus doesn't strike me as Greek
(probably wrong but yeah)

[Knerys]

Heh know she doesn't. Hmmmmm........

[KayTang999]

If she is a bit older, she would have been a perfect choice. Right now the perfect choice is not available. :sigh:

[southern]

IMDB: (so far)
Brad Pitt .... Achilles
Eric Bana .... Hector
Orlando Bloom .... Prince Paris of Troy
Rose Byrne .... Briseis
Sean Bean .... Odysseus
Saffron Burrows .... Andromache
Julie Christie .... Thetis
Brian Cox .... Agamennon
Brendan Gleeson .... Menelaus
Peter O'Toole .... Priam

[Omega Supreme]

Originally posted by todd philip
man i'm soooooooooooooooo happy these types of movies are coming back!!! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: big, lavish, epics!!!:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Totally agree. I miss all the big epics and drama/family moveis bore me to tears for the most part. Why would you want to watch a movie about 'real life' when you live in the real world anyway? I'd much rather see movies about fanciful worlds and places that existed 1000's if yers ago than something based in today's world.

[Omega Supreme]

Originally posted by southern
IMDB: (so far)
Brad Pitt .... Achilles
Eric Bana .... Hector
Orlando Bloom .... Prince Paris of Troy
Rose Byrne .... Briseis
Sean Bean .... Odysseus
Saffron Burrows .... Andromache
Julie Christie .... Thetis
Brian Cox .... Agamennon
Brendan Gleeson .... Menelaus
Peter O'Toole .... Priam

None of these actors really strike me as being very 'greekish', so why should casting someone like Kriten Kruek be a problem? I've heard no one complain abou Brad Pitt being cast? And Sean Bean while being a fantastic actor, isn't very greek. I'm not complaingn about who has been cast, because I want to see all those actor plays their parts, but why make such a big fuss just over Helen??

[southern]

true

but Helen is suppose to have "the Face that launched a 1000 ships"
kristen doesn't have this face (IMO) i think there are plenty of beautiful actresses who also have talent out their, but she's not one of them

[Knerys]

I could think of a few, but they're all older heh.

[southern]

here's a better picture of Jessica Brooks
http://www.scifi.com/dune/gallery/images/ghan_lrg_01.jpg

[Knerys]

She'd be good.

[KayTang999]

Jessica is too old and Kristen is too young.

Brad Pitt is American. He don't have the Greek face but he got the money to lobby the casting process. He is not right for the role of Achilles at all when you cast Orlando Bloom as Paris. If I remember correctly, Achilles is younger than Paris.

Question, I am not sure but who is older between Paris and Helen? I think that Paris is older but I could be wrong.

[Omega Supreme]

Originally posted by southern
true

but Helen is suppose to have "the Face that launched a 1000 ships"
kristen doesn't have this face (IMO) i think there are plenty of beautiful actresses who also have talent out their, but she's not one of them

So, just because an actress doesn't float your boat (no oun intended) means she won't for 1000 other people as well? I'm sure there were people who probably thought to themselves 'You know, that Helen - she ain't all that'.

All the role needs is a beautiful lady who is also a strong actress.

[todd philip]

Originally posted by southern
here's a better picture of Jessica Brooks
http://www.scifi.com/dune/gallery/images/ghan_lrg_01.jpg

wow, what hottie!


so is she in troy?:confused:

[southern]

Originally posted by todd philip
wow, what hottie!


so is she in troy?:confused:

no

and i was asked my opinion on wether or not i thought kristen would make a good helen and i gave it if you don't like my response that's fine

p.s. i don't think she can her way out of a paper bag

[Spide®Man]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Jessica is too old and Kristen is too young.

Its KristIn not Kristen.

[KayTang999]

Well sorry for my mistake. But you get the idea.

[ILOVEKATIE]

I've been seeing previews in the USA Network or TNT(oh geez, I can't remember!:mad: ) of a mini series they are going to give on Helen of Troy.
Has anyone else seem it?
It looks pretty cool, I'm looking forward to watching it.

[LOTRfan]

I read on full-bloom.net that Brazilian model Luciana Morad is one of the top four remaining candidates for the part of Helen. I don't think she fits. :(
http://dirce.globo.com/Globo/photo_Show/0,7329,52703,00.GIF

http://www.lucianamorad.net/travelpics/carnivaldancing.jpg

Any thoughts???

[ILOVEKATIE]

No...she just doesn't look right for Helen.

[southern]

nah

ILOVEKATIE i've seen on IMDB about the miniseries but i did know that they had already completed production.......will go check it out now

[KayTang999]

April 13 is the date, however the casting list is not complete.

[Knerys]

She looks too old......

[ILOVEKATIE]

Yes, she looks old.

The preview they showed of the mini series looked pretty cool, epic like, I like it!:D

[evilsquishy]

She's not terrible, but they could do a lot better.

[ehinds]

I'm really excited for the movie already - have they still not cast a Helen? How old should Helen be?

[KayTang999]

They are still casting for the Helen. She should not be older than 35, I don't think.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
They are still casting for the Helen. She should not be older than 35, I don't think.
But not too young, or she'll look like a gangly teenager....

[KayTang999]

True, so true. That why it is hard to cast this role.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by KayTang999
True, so true. That why it is hard to cast this role.
Well, like they said, makeup can do wonders.
I mean, the face of an 18 year old with the body of like a 27 year old? That could work.

[KayTang999]

Yeah, that true but they better not pick someone like Anna Nicole Smith!!!