Rohirrim VS Myrmidons

JackBauer · 05-28-2004, 05:57 PM

I know its another LOTR vs TROY thread but let this be just a battle thread please.

Both sides have great warriors. Now i leave out their leaders (Eomer & Achilles) since it wouldn't be fair, i think Achilles alone is just too strong for them.

Who would win in a battle, the Myrmidons or the Rohirrim?

Brock Landers · 05-28-2004, 07:37 PM

Rohirrim

Strength in numbers and horseriding skill.

Doomsday · 05-28-2004, 10:11 PM

I'll go with Rohirrim since they killed all those orcs, yet that doesn't say much because orcs suck ass at fighting.

dustindame · 05-29-2004, 01:03 AM

Rohirrim

Boro · 05-29-2004, 01:36 AM

doesnt matter.

Necross · 05-29-2004, 02:18 AM

Hmm.....the flames are getting higher...must be all the fanning....

Boods · 05-29-2004, 04:45 AM

rohirrim

PsYkOoOoO · 05-29-2004, 04:47 AM

Rohirrium.

adt100 · 05-29-2004, 06:52 AM

The Rohirrim of course, everytime. And why? Because they're cavalry!

Andrey83 · 05-29-2004, 06:59 AM

Well, since we are not talking about big in numbers i have to go with Myrmidons. They are the elite troops and would easily slaughter a whole division of rohirrim

(dont get me started, i like LOTR more, but from obsession to fact)

Myrmidons was the best of the best.

Tornado · 05-29-2004, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by JackBauer
Both sides have great warriors. Now i leave out their leaders (Eomer & Achilles) since it wouldn't be fair, i think Achilles alone is just too strong for them.

LOL, BS man. There's no way that Achilles could take down the whole bunch.

The Rohirrim are fighting for freedom and their survival while the Myrmidons are fighting to conquer. The Rohirrim have a better cause than the Myrmidons, they'd fight with passion.

My vote goes to the Rohirrim.

adt100 · 05-29-2004, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Andrey83
Well, since we are not talking about big in numbers i have to go with Myrmidons. They are the elite troops and would easily slaughter a whole division of rohirrim

(dont get me started, i like LOTR more, but from obsession to fact)

Myrmidons was the best of the best.

I'm not basing my opinon on anything to do with my personal preference or my views of the films, but on simple logic and the realities of warfare.

Are we talking about similar numbers od Rohirrim and Myrmidons or what? Because it warfare an experienced cavalry will outdo ANY foot soldiers, and typically will be able to take on far greater numbers.

Without the horses, in one on one combat, I'd probably choose the Myrmidons, but unless we are talking about the Myrmidons vastly outnumbering the Rohirrim then the Rohirrim would triumph every time.

Andrey83 · 05-29-2004, 09:19 AM

I was thinking the same number. But you know, the Myrmidons was like special forces. With their tactics and ways of combat they could easily take out the same number, even if they where on horses. Using formations and spears they would have wooped them

JackBauer · 05-29-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Andrey83
Well, since we are not talking about big in numbers i have to go with Myrmidons. They are the elite troops and would easily slaughter a whole division of rohirrim

(dont get me started, i like LOTR more, but from obsession to fact)

Myrmidons was the best of the best.

hands down. thats just what i'm thinking.

JackBauer · 05-29-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Tornado
LOL, BS man. There's no way that Achilles could take down the whole bunch.

The Rohirrim are fighting for freedom and their survival while the Myrmidons are fighting to conquer. The Rohirrim have a better cause than the Myrmidons, they'd fight with passion.

My vote goes to the Rohirrim.

probobly not the whole Rohirrim but he'd definetly kill a big part of them. lets be realistic, you've seen what he has done to the men on the beach. don't deny that fact, no matter how bad you think Troy was.

I think the Myrmidons have the same great passion (Immortality!) as the Rohirrim, but this is not what i was asking...my question was about the fighting and tactic skills. and the Myrmidons were just the better men imo. they would win! although the Rohirrim were something i liked about LOTR.

its inevitable that people who didn't like Troy and are LOTR fans will vote for the Rohirrim just like that, not caring about the question of the thread, which side would win in a battle?

i think the Rohirrim could have a chance in a battle with horses on open field. but somewhere in the woods, the beach or just an attack...they wouldn't survive since the Myrmidons just look stronger to me. after all they took the poseidon temple and a part of the beach with less than 50 men.

Tornado · 05-29-2004, 11:10 AM

I liked Troy a lot Jack. I didn't look at the battle at it being a blindside. If it was that then I would imagine that the Myrmidons would win. But on an open field (without Achilles or Eomer) the Rohirrim would win I think.

IMO there's no bigger passion that fighting for your survival. People do very brave things in the face of death. If the Myrmidons showed up acting cocky and such, the Rohirrim would completely demolish them IMO.

adt100 · 05-29-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Andrey83
I was thinking the same number. But you know, the Myrmidons was like special forces. With their tactics and ways of combat they could easily take out the same number, even if they where on horses. Using formations and spears they would have wooped them

Unless the Rohirrim cavalry were extremely weak and incompetent (which of course they weren't), then they wouldn't. It's just the way of battle.

Boro · 05-29-2004, 12:26 PM

i highly doubt these Myrmidons were the best of the best (well maybe they were at the time). i havent seen the movie but from the pic given it doesnt look like they were even able to utilize a phalynx. whether or not the rohirrim could have beaten them they would have gotten their asses kicked by the spartans

Andrey83 · 05-29-2004, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by boromir-pso
i highly doubt these Myrmidons were the best of the best (well maybe they were at the time). i havent seen the movie but from the pic given it doesnt look like they were even able to utilize a phalynx. whether or not the rohirrim could have beaten them they would have gotten their asses kicked by the spartans

I'm not talking about just the movie. I'm talking about how they where.....(according to the legend of cource)

adt100 · 05-29-2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by boromir-pso
i havent seen the movie but from the pic given it doesnt look like they were even able to utilize a phalynx.

Once they got off the ships they weren't actually too bad at utilizing a phalynx. I doubt they'd have fared too well against a well organised Roman army though, and certainlyt not against a well-armed cavalry.

Andrey83 · 05-29-2004, 01:03 PM

Well, the roman army was much later and they had way much better weapons armor and equipment. Its like saying that achilles wouldnt do good agains a Navy Seal :p

Boro · 05-29-2004, 01:05 PM

the spartans werent too much later tho.

wasnt the first organized cavalry even after the romans?

adt100 · 05-29-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by Andrey83
Well, the roman army was much later and they had way much better weapons armor and equipment. Its like saying that achilles wouldnt do good agains a Navy Seal :p

Not really, the difference in this respect wasn't so great.

Besides, when we're talking about the Rohirrim you'd have to say that they would be later in date.

Andrey83 · 05-29-2004, 01:20 PM

well. true. The rohirrim would be around year 200-300 or something I would guess.

Andrey83 · 05-29-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by boromir-pso
the spartans werent too much later tho.

wasnt the first organized cavalry even after the romans?

No the Persians had cavalary. But they mostly used Elephants. But many had cavalery.

Also the romans had cavalry.

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05-29-2004, 06:59 AM	#10
Andrey83 Boxed Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth...Frak Earth Posts: 13,506	Well, since we are not talking about big in numbers i have to go with Myrmidons. They are the elite troops and would easily slaughter a whole division of rohirrim (dont get me started, i like LOTR more, but from obsession to fact) Myrmidons was the best of the best. __________________ "I like to think of us a smart-ass teenager country who likes to steal dad's car and make trouble because we think we're invincible. Geez, USA. Get a job" - JBond

05-29-2004, 09:19 AM	#13
Andrey83 Boxed Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth...Frak Earth Posts: 13,506	I was thinking the same number. But you know, the Myrmidons was like special forces. With their tactics and ways of combat they could easily take out the same number, even if they where on horses. Using formations and spears they would have wooped them __________________ "I like to think of us a smart-ass teenager country who likes to steal dad's car and make trouble because we think we're invincible. Geez, USA. Get a job" - JBond

05-29-2004, 11:10 AM	#16
Tornado Inspirational Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 27,945	I liked Troy a lot Jack. I didn't look at the battle at it being a blindside. If it was that then I would imagine that the Myrmidons would win. But on an open field (without Achilles or Eomer) the Rohirrim would win I think. IMO there's no bigger passion that fighting for your survival. People do very brave things in the face of death. If the Myrmidons showed up acting cocky and such, the Rohirrim would completely demolish them IMO. __________________ Lois: Clark Kent, you're back! I was beginning to think your family lived on some distant planet. [she tightly hugs him] Clark: Must have really missed me. Lois: Uh, only because the guy who sat in your desk was a certifiable psychopath. Otherwise, I've been so busy, I didn't even notice you were gone. Clark: Missed you, too, Lois.

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Boro Not a Robot, but a Ghost Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Serenity Posts: 9,081	i highly doubt these Myrmidons were the best of the best (well maybe they were at the time). i havent seen the movie but from the pic given it doesnt look like they were even able to utilize a phalynx. whether or not the rohirrim could have beaten them they would have gotten their asses kicked by the spartans __________________ Can't you feel the warmth of my sincerity?

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Andrey83 Boxed Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth...Frak Earth Posts: 13,506	Well, the roman army was much later and they had way much better weapons armor and equipment. Its like saying that achilles wouldnt do good agains a Navy Seal :p __________________ "I like to think of us a smart-ass teenager country who likes to steal dad's car and make trouble because we think we're invincible. Geez, USA. Get a job" - JBond

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Boro Not a Robot, but a Ghost Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Serenity Posts: 9,081	the spartans werent too much later tho. wasnt the first organized cavalry even after the romans? __________________ Can't you feel the warmth of my sincerity?

05-29-2004, 01:20 PM	#24
Andrey83 Boxed Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth...Frak Earth Posts: 13,506	well. true. The rohirrim would be around year 200-300 or something I would guess. __________________ "I like to think of us a smart-ass teenager country who likes to steal dad's car and make trouble because we think we're invincible. Geez, USA. Get a job" - JBond