Official MGS3:SE Info' and General Talk Thread.

Malitos_Sahkir · 02-08-2004, 11:58 AM

We've had Threads on this before but I thought it was time to make an Official one now that it's 2004, and the games release is drawing closer.

What we know already:

-AI has been massively overhauled, and will feature a tracking system in the outdoor environments, as Snake will leave footprints behind when he walks around. Indoors, the AI will be much like that of Sons of Liberty.

-The story won't jump around. It'll flow continuously from the point you land in the jungle to the end of the game.

-Kojima and his team are currently deciding on the level of tracking the dogs will employ - whether they will stop at the water's edge like in a typical Hollywood action film, or whether they will relentlessly track you, like in real life.

-Kojima has also pointed out that infiltration of the base is up to the player, i.e. the player chooses the way he/she gets into the base. There will be multiple entrances.

-The amount of food you eat won't affect your weight (visually), but it will affect the quality of your aiming, movement speed, etc.

-The team is still considering whether or not you can pick ammo and equipment up off guards.

-Radar will be optional, but playing without it will help with immersion.

-There will be less cutscenes in general, and they will be interactive, though Kojima has not shed any light on how this will work.

-Kojima says this will "probably" be his last Metal Gear title, though he will continue the series if he feels nobody else is capable of doing so. ( Don't take that to mean this will actually be the last MGS, just that Kojima won't be heading the development team anymore ).

-David Hayter is doing the Main Characters Voice no matter if its BB or SS.

-The jungle is very large and there are no set paths. Its also entirely seamless so you'll never have to look at any loading screens. Besides the jungle you'll also be going through caves and up mountains. This is where the weather comes into factor. When you're up in the snowy mountains you'll have to dress accordingly or you'll get sick.

-You would be able to download new costumes and camo patterns from Ps2 online.

-5.1 Dolby surround sound during gameplay and cutscenes.

-You carry an animal or food for too long it'll become unhealthy to eat.

-As of right now theres 1 vehicle thats been confirmed and 2 others that are on the maybe list.

-You can pick up snakes and throw em at the enemy to kill them.

-There will be a day/night cycle.

-The inventory system will probably change a bit, you won't
be able carry so many things at once like in previous MGS titles.

-As of now you can move in first person mode but you can't shoot. That might change before release.

-When his stamina meter is low he'll shake when he shoots and it'll become more dificult to sneak up on an enemy(He'll make more noise). His vision may also be blurred making it more difficult to see what dangers may be near.

-The number of weapons hasn't been finalized. Weapons range from handguns, assualt rifles, machine guns, shotguns, sniper rifles, and a few from Mr. Kojima's own imiagination.

-There are over 100 different combinations of camo and face paint.

-The box will be back for the indoor enviroments. Mr. Kojima has a surprise for the jungle.

-The M9 tranqualizer will not be returning.

( Thanks goes to IGN for the information ).

Tony_samo · 02-10-2004, 01:57 PM

wow great report there, but any word on the Release Date yet?

Malitos_Sahkir · 02-10-2004, 02:20 PM

Not that I know of, I'm expecting it around Fall in the US and Christmas in Eroupe.
That is just me though, they might bump up the release date as I'm pretty sure the game is almost finished.

Diablo · 02-10-2004, 02:27 PM

I predict Snake is going to be in it, and it is a sequel and snake is going to die, just my thoughts though.

Malitos_Sahkir · 02-10-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Diablo23
I predict Snake is going to be in it, and it is a sequel and snake is going to die, just my thoughts though.

Unless the Patriot's have a time machine then I doubt it. And, no one can kill Snake! *slaps him*

Diablo · 02-10-2004, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Malitos_Sahkir
Unless the Patriot's have a time machine then I doubt it. And, no one can kill Snake! *slaps him*

Lol. i know no one can kill snake, but you never know, IF this is Kojima's last game, wouldn't he want to end the series rather then leaving it out in the open for MGS 4 with a true sequel, i do think MGS 3 is a sequel, and IMO the only way you can end MGS is to kill off Snake...

Malitos_Sahkir · 02-10-2004, 04:28 PM

You misunderstood it. This is 'Kojima's last time heading the Development Team, this is his last time being Director. It's not actually the last Metal Gear Solid game. It's only 'Kojima retireing from heading the Development Team - he will still stay on as a Producer most likely. It isn't the final Metal Gear game - I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

spiderman_2k · 02-10-2004, 05:37 PM

I always thought that MGS2 was his final one, I guess he decided to put things right with the fans after the cruddiness of Raiden

Diablo · 02-10-2004, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malitos_Sahkir
You misunderstood it. This is 'Kojima's last time heading the Development Team, this is his last time being Director. It's not actually the last Metal Gear Solid game. It's only 'Kojima retireing from heading the Development Team - he will still stay on as a Producer most likely. It isn't the final Metal Gear game - I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

I forgot bout that, but ok, if snake is not gonna die in this one, then its going to be in the next one :p...

I honestly think thats the best way to end MGS

spiderman_2k · 02-10-2004, 08:26 PM

Im not usually a soppy guy, but I know I would cry if that happened....Very sad of me, but Snake is such an amazing character it would be horrible for him to die...But if he had too..It would have to be doing something incredibly heroic...

Diablo · 02-10-2004, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Im not usually a soppy guy, but I know I would cry if that happened....Very sad of me, but Snake is such an amazing character it would be horrible for him to die...But if he had too..It would have to be doing something incredibly heroic...

I agree, and plus most of the moments in past MGS games are sad, and if Snake had to die, I know Kojima would make it REALLLY sad..

spiderman_2k · 02-10-2004, 08:29 PM

Yes, Sniper Wolf dying really hit me...Poor Otacon...
EE's death really didn't do anything to me...But seeing Snake and Otacon do that handshake thing and hug, with the MGS music playing in the background (right before Snake went off into Aresnal) was really hard hitting...It was almost as if they never expected to see each other again.

Inval1d · 02-10-2004, 08:30 PM

If Snake should die, it would be really sad to see. For some reason, I hope that's what happen and I hope it isn't a prequel with Big Boss.

Diablo · 02-10-2004, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Yes, Sniper Wolf dying really hit me...Poor Otacon...
EE's death really didn't do anything to me...But seeing Snake and Otacon do that handshake thing and hug, with the MGS music playing in the background (right before Snake went off into Aresnal) was really hard hitting...It was almost as if they never expected to see each other again.

Yea i know, i had chills going down my back for about every second in that scene... Just BRilliant

Diablo · 02-28-2004, 07:22 PM

holy cow must see Screens... i Guess they got leaked...

Question is... Are these Real?

spiderman_2k · 02-28-2004, 07:23 PM

Why would they not be real?

Diablo · 02-28-2004, 07:24 PM

i dunno..

but doesn't it look awesome... look at the stuff on the right hand corner

spiderman_2k · 02-28-2004, 07:25 PM

They are real, I am interested in the symbols and info in the right hand corner

Diablo · 02-28-2004, 07:26 PM

i think that stuff means what kind of suit u are wearing and the % stands for how much visible u are

spiderman_2k · 02-28-2004, 07:27 PM

I dont like that idea, too much like Splinter Cell, that isn't MGS style at all.

Diablo · 02-28-2004, 07:29 PM

Hey it is "New Setting... New Era.. New etc..."

Diablo · 02-28-2004, 08:04 PM

spiderman_2k · 02-28-2004, 08:39 PM

Yes it is all that, but remeber what happened when Hideo wanted to give us a new outlook on Snake....We ended up with Raiden....

Diablo · 02-28-2004, 09:01 PM

Well honestly Spidey with Kojima.. we know to expect a suprise... and i think that Konami leaked these pics themselves to confuse us and u never know if that menu thing will actually be there or not..

Corporal Hicks · 02-29-2004, 09:57 AM

Love the camo metre up there. Will be quite helpful and won't have you guessing if the soldiers can see you or not.

02-08-2004, 11:58 AM	#1
Malitos_Sahkir Leisure Suit Larry Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Belafonte Posts: 2,445	Official MGS3:SE Info', General Talk, and Review Thread. We've had Threads on this before but I thought it was time to make an Official one now that it's 2004, and the games release is drawing closer. What we know already: -AI has been massively overhauled, and will feature a tracking system in the outdoor environments, as Snake will leave footprints behind when he walks around. Indoors, the AI will be much like that of Sons of Liberty. -The story won't jump around. It'll flow continuously from the point you land in the jungle to the end of the game. -Kojima and his team are currently deciding on the level of tracking the dogs will employ - whether they will stop at the water's edge like in a typical Hollywood action film, or whether they will relentlessly track you, like in real life. -Kojima has also pointed out that infiltration of the base is up to the player, i.e. the player chooses the way he/she gets into the base. There will be multiple entrances. -The amount of food you eat won't affect your weight (visually), but it will affect the quality of your aiming, movement speed, etc. -The team is still considering whether or not you can pick ammo and equipment up off guards. -Radar will be optional, but playing without it will help with immersion. -There will be less cutscenes in general, and they will be interactive, though Kojima has not shed any light on how this will work. -Kojima says this will "probably" be his last Metal Gear title, though he will continue the series if he feels nobody else is capable of doing so. ( Don't take that to mean this will actually be the last MGS, just that Kojima won't be heading the development team anymore ). -David Hayter is doing the Main Characters Voice no matter if its BB or SS. -The jungle is very large and there are no set paths. Its also entirely seamless so you'll never have to look at any loading screens. Besides the jungle you'll also be going through caves and up mountains. This is where the weather comes into factor. When you're up in the snowy mountains you'll have to dress accordingly or you'll get sick. -You would be able to download new costumes and camo patterns from Ps2 online. -5.1 Dolby surround sound during gameplay and cutscenes. -You carry an animal or food for too long it'll become unhealthy to eat. -As of right now theres 1 vehicle thats been confirmed and 2 others that are on the maybe list. -You can pick up snakes and throw em at the enemy to kill them. -There will be a day/night cycle. -The inventory system will probably change a bit, you won't be able carry so many things at once like in previous MGS titles. -As of now you can move in first person mode but you can't shoot. That might change before release. -When his stamina meter is low he'll shake when he shoots and it'll become more dificult to sneak up on an enemy(He'll make more noise). His vision may also be blurred making it more difficult to see what dangers may be near. -The number of weapons hasn't been finalized. Weapons range from handguns, assualt rifles, machine guns, shotguns, sniper rifles, and a few from Mr. Kojima's own imiagination. -There are over 100 different combinations of camo and face paint. -The box will be back for the indoor enviroments. Mr. Kojima has a surprise for the jungle. -The M9 tranqualizer will not be returning. ( Thanks goes to IGN for the information ). Last edited by Malitos_Sahkir; 04-13-2004 at 02:31 AM.

02-10-2004, 01:57 PM	#2
Tony_samo The Unknown Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Black Hole Posts: 1,978	wow great report there, but any word on the Release Date yet? __________________ Top Secret Data: Code Name: T.S. Hound Aka Tony Samo Organizations: CTU, FBI, DEA, NSA, CIA, BPRD, S.T.A.R.S., SWAT, Fox Hound. Age: ???? Current Mission: Hunting all Terrorist and Hackers from The CS! Boards Location: Behind you... My DVD Collection

02-10-2004, 02:27 PM	#4
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	I predict Snake is going to be in it, and it is a sequel and snake is going to die, just my thoughts though. __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-10-2004, 08:30 PM	#13
Inval1d XBL GT = JEFFUMZ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MN Posts: 17,131	If Snake should die, it would be really sad to see. For some reason, I hope that's what happen and I hope it isn't a prequel with Big Boss. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/inval1d <---- My myspace yo

02-28-2004, 07:22 PM	#15
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	holy cow must see Screens... i Guess they got leaked... Question is... Are these Real? __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-10-2004, 02:20 PM	#3
Malitos_Sahkir Leisure Suit Larry Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Belafonte Posts: 2,445	Not that I know of, I'm expecting it around Fall in the US and Christmas in Eroupe. That is just me though, they might bump up the release date as I'm pretty sure the game is almost finished.

02-10-2004, 04:28 PM	#7
Malitos_Sahkir Leisure Suit Larry Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Belafonte Posts: 2,445	You misunderstood it. This is 'Kojima's last time heading the Development Team, this is his last time being Director. It's not actually the last Metal Gear Solid game. It's only 'Kojima retireing from heading the Development Team - he will still stay on as a Producer most likely. It isn't the final Metal Gear game - I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

02-10-2004, 05:37 PM	#8
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	I always thought that MGS2 was his final one, I guess he decided to put things right with the fans after the cruddiness of Raiden

02-10-2004, 08:26 PM	#10
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	Im not usually a soppy guy, but I know I would cry if that happened....Very sad of me, but Snake is such an amazing character it would be horrible for him to die...But if he had too..It would have to be doing something incredibly heroic...

02-10-2004, 08:29 PM	#12
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	Yes, Sniper Wolf dying really hit me...Poor Otacon... EE's death really didn't do anything to me...But seeing Snake and Otacon do that handshake thing and hug, with the MGS music playing in the background (right before Snake went off into Aresnal) was really hard hitting...It was almost as if they never expected to see each other again.

02-28-2004, 07:23 PM	#16
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	Why would they not be real?

02-28-2004, 07:24 PM	#17
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	i dunno.. but doesn't it look awesome... look at the stuff on the right hand corner __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-28-2004, 07:25 PM	#18
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	They are real, I am interested in the symbols and info in the right hand corner

02-28-2004, 07:26 PM	#19
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	i think that stuff means what kind of suit u are wearing and the % stands for how much visible u are __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-28-2004, 07:27 PM	#20
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	I dont like that idea, too much like Splinter Cell, that isn't MGS style at all.

02-28-2004, 07:29 PM	#21
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	Hey it is "New Setting... New Era.. New etc..." __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-28-2004, 08:04 PM	#22
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	__________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-28-2004, 08:39 PM	#23
spiderman_2k Hey Mods! Moderate This!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In Exile Posts: 37,331	Yes it is all that, but remeber what happened when Hideo wanted to give us a new outlook on Snake....We ended up with Raiden....

02-28-2004, 09:01 PM	#24
Diablo Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DMV Posts: 16,248	Well honestly Spidey with Kojima.. we know to expect a suprise... and i think that Konami leaked these pics themselves to confuse us and u never know if that menu thing will actually be there or not.. __________________ R.I.P Sean Taylor April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007

02-29-2004, 09:57 AM	#25
Corporal Hicks Executive Producer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LV-426 Posts: 402	Love the camo metre up there. Will be quite helpful and won't have you guessing if the soldiers can see you or not. __________________ Without rules, there is no freedom. Hate is baggage, life's too short to be pissed off all the time. --Danny Vinyard My actions are vengeance, no, not vengeance. Punishment. --The Punisher Dawn of the Dead Ana: But those things are up there! CJ: Well, that ain't my problem. Kenneth: Will my foot be your problem after I stick it up your ass?